From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 15:13:23 EST Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #204 Linux-Admin Digest #204, Volume #1 Sun, 5 Dec 93 15:13:23 EST Contents: Re: Linux as a DOS fileserver? (Joern Jensen) routing help (Tim Bernhardt) Re: inn and cnews difference(help) (Andreas Klemm) Sound Blaster setup? (Gary Merinstein) 0.99.14 (was Re: Found slow socket bug :)) (Matthew Donadio) QIC-80 Drive and linux (Robert Morris) Tough! Quit griping! Was: Re: Don't use Motif for free sw: it now requi (Charles Geyer) Re: Linux as a DOS fileserver? (Rich Hart 1-4822 PAGER 977-1125) Re: routing problem (Dr Eberhard W Lisse) Re: "New" directory structure... (Dominik Kubla) Re: mail daemon: smail, sendmail+IDA 5.6.x, Sendmail 8.6.4, umail (Kai Voigt) Re: "New" directory structure... (Daniel Quinlan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jornj@edb.tih.no (Joern Jensen) Subject: Re: Linux as a DOS fileserver? Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 11:36:32 GMT Dawn Brenneman (DMB160@psuvm.psu.edu) writes: [some deleted] : What I'm getting at here is that I want a server for DOS files on a network : (10BaseT) and I want a Unix box on that same network. It would be spiffy : if they could both be the same machine. Well, I might be totally off the planet here, but what about linux running pc-nfs, and the dosmachines running some sort of pc-nfs too? You could then mount the wanted directory as you like. Not perfect, probably not very secure (I think it depends on what nfs-protocol you use), but you should get access to your dos-files stored on the linux-machine. That is, I think so.. //jornj (Of _course_ I've never tried it myself :) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux From: tim@anarch.do.open.de (Tim Bernhardt) Subject: routing help Reply-To: tim@anarch.do.open.de Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 13:08:42 GMT Hello all! Is anybody likely to send me some pieces of information (Docs, FAQ, own infos) about setting up routing tables and configuring slip under linux? I am a little experienced with DialupIP and routing unter NeXTStep but some things under linux seem to be completely different. We're planning to get our own Class C Net via ISDN-Gate to our local provider and offer the users a dialin service via slip. So the question is on how to route an entire subnet of our Class C net that is located outside and connected to the local ethernet via slip. What is the best way to offer slip logins with dip? Is linux patchlevel 14 capable to handle cslip and slip correctly? How can we configure that? Are there any known bugs in the TCP/IP part of linux so that it's wasted time to spend the nights desperately searching for an error that appears rather to be a bug in the kernel than a misconfiguration. Please send out some stuff if you want to. thanx in advance tim bernhardt ------------------------------ From: andreas@knobel.knirsch.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: inn and cnews difference(help) Date: 5 Dec 1993 11:59:23 -0000 root@jacobs.mn.org (Mike Horwath) writes: >Stan chan (schan@hertz.eese.qut.edu.au) wrote: >: i am trying to set up a Linux box for nntp type of news server to my local >: network. I have no news admin experience and so have to ask a few questions >: before I can start setting it up. >: I am using INN as the news server instead of cnews. This package calls for >: another nntp as the news feeder to it instead of uucp feed as the cnews. >: I am wondering if it is possible to sue the same scheme for news feed from >: the feeder as cnews instead of using nntp feed because I can find a uucp feed >: easily but nntp feed seems to be a problem . >: I cannot use cnews supplied with Linux becsue it does not provide nntp >: server for my local network here. >: Any one can give me some suggestins on which way is the best?? >: Stanley Chan Phone 61 7 8771016 Fax 61 7 8771120 >: e-mail schan@hertz.eese.qut.edu.au >I use INN for both nntp and UUCP feeding both ways, works great. >Just read the documentation and follow the examples for UUCP feeding and >nntp feeding and readership. Here is a copy of my crontab for doing uucp >batching and a copy of my newsfeeds file for creating the batch to them. >---------------------------------------- > >SHELL=/bin/sh >MAILTO=news >0 * * * * /usr/local/lib/news/bin/sendbatch -g insight ^^^^ You have a hacked version ?! ;-) My guess: compresses batches with gzip ?! ;-) A couple of site here use inn uucp only, because it's fast and reliable. Only a few scripts do a bunch of work. Look out. You need bash-1.13 because some scripts won't run with bash-1.12. But if you do so, then you really have fun with it ! Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm /\/\____ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH andreas@knobel.knirsch.de ___/\/\/ andreas@sunny.wup.de (Unix Support) ------------------------------ From: Gary.Merinstein@p3.f506.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Merinstein) Subject: Sound Blaster setup? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 20:06:16 -0500 In <2de2da$9pf@nic.umass.edu> cmay@titan.ucs.umass.edu (CHRISTOPHER M MAY) writes: >Gary Merinstein (gmerin@panix.com) wrote: >: i have the fall '93 yggdrasil cd installed (originally installed for pc >: speaker sound) and i've just put a sb card in the box.(irq 7, dma/drq 1) >: lilo says that it "sees" a yamaha sound interface and splay, etc., says >: that it can't locate /dev/dsp altho i've confirmed that the device exists. >: does anyone know the "correct" configuration steps for me to do inorder to >: get this card working? >You must recompile the kernel, or find someone with a binary kernel image >which supports _your_ DMA and IRQ settings. according to the manual, support for the "standard" irq & dma settings is already compiled into the distributed kernel: "By default, the kernel is configured to look for a Soundblaster-compatible sound card on IRQ 7..." i was more concerned with a "correct" address-jumper settings on the card. >You need the 1.0, 1.99, or 2.0 sound drivers available at >most linux sites. >What kernel does the yggdrasil cd have on it? can you ftp the >latest (ALPHA-0.99pl13t) kernel from ftp.funet.fi >some directory like /pub/OS/Linux/kernel/sources. according to the manual, it is distributed with the 0.99.13 kernel. >Follow the directions in the Linux documentation projects (Matt Welsh's) >manual "Getting Installation and getting Started" for recompiling, >this can be found at most linux sites, for example at sunsite.unc.edu: > it something like /pub/Linux/docs/LDP. >You will need ghostscript (gs) or TeX to print the file. >I think there is an ascii version, but postscript works for my >SLS 1.03 with > gs -sDEVICE=deskjet -sOutputFile=/dev/lp1 Install-guide.ps >The sound driver is included with the ALPHA-0.99pl13s and above, >or you can get the 1.0 driver and follow the instructions for >installation contained therein. >If you don't have the resources (ram, hard disk space, time, skill) >to recompile, you'd be best suited to offer someone a service >which _you_ can provide (that they are interested in) in return for >helping you, as people often don't really like (even resent) >giving away knowledge and labor which was easily aquired if you know >the proper place to look, and you don't suffer from "Attention >deficit disorder", which causes many people to become frustrated >when attempting things which are new to them. Stick with it, >find the docs on the sound card, read them all, when you're done >you'll know alot more about the challenge of running an evolving >operating system. >Plus you won't have to take shit like this any more. > its not "shit", just just an incorrect assumption... >As the old saying goes "RTFM" (Read the Fu**ing Manual). > maybe there should be a new jargon entry created: "WAFDM" ("Write a Fu**ing Decent Manual") >-- ><>*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*<> >* __ *-------------------------- * >< / |) )/\ /\ > >* | |/\ |-- () |\ | | | /| | | * >> \__/| (_|(__/\__| )___/|_____(__(_|__\_| < >* ______________________________________/ * >< ) cmay@titan.umass.ucs.edu > >* The opinions expressed here are the product * >> of years of interaction between a sensient < >* multicelled organism and its environment. * ><>*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*\/*/\*<> * Origin: R&D BBS's * `Side_of_Ham' Packet/UseNet/FidoNet Gateway (1:163/506.3) ------------------------------ From: Matthew.Donadio@p3.f506.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Matthew Donadio) Subject: 0.99.14 (was Re: Found slow socket bug :)) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 01:17:54 -0500 Richard Krehbiel (richk@netcom6.netcom.com) wrote: : I have a modest question. What is it that's preventing any of these : Linux releases from being version 1.0? Is there a particular ideal Not again... -- Beaker aka Matt Donadio | Life is short, --- __ o __~o __ o donadio@mxd120.rh.psu.edu | ride like ---- _`\<, _`\<, _`\<, * Origin: R&D BBS's * `Side_of_Ham' Packet/UseNet/FidoNet Gateway (1:163/506.3) ------------------------------ From: Robert.Morris@p3.f506.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Morris) Subject: QIC-80 Drive and linux Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 06:22:51 -0500 I have a Colorado Jumbo 250 and I'm trying to get it to work using the latest linux kernel (99.13). I follow the instructions to load the tape module into the kernel - and it loads. However, the tape unit still won't work. The documentaton seemed to suggest that the tape software was a hack and that you couldn't count on it - I believe the author said that. I appears to write to tape, but when I try to extract - no luck. It chokes. HAS ANYBODY gotten the new linux (QIC80) tape system to work for their Jumbo 250?? * Origin: R&D BBS's * `Side_of_Ham' Packet/UseNet/FidoNet Gateway (1:163/506.3) ------------------------------ From: Charles.Geyer@p3.f506.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Charles Geyer) Subject: Tough! Quit griping! Was: Re: Don't use Motif for free sw: it now requi Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 17:17:27 -0500 Hey people, get off OSF's case. Motif is as American as apple pie -- never give a sucker an even break. If you're writing suckerware, you'll want it to use Motif. -- Charles Geyer School of Statistics University of Minnesota charlie@stat.umn.edu * Origin: R&D BBS's * `Side_of_Ham' Packet/UseNet/FidoNet Gateway (1:163/506.3) ------------------------------ From: rich@den.mmc.com (Rich Hart 1-4822 PAGER 977-1125) Subject: Re: Linux as a DOS fileserver? Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 15:52:53 GMT In article jornj@edb.tih.no (Joern Jensen) writes: >Dawn Brenneman (DMB160@psuvm.psu.edu) writes: >[some deleted] >: What I'm getting at here is that I want a server for DOS files on a network >: (10BaseT) and I want a Unix box on that same network. It would be spiffy >: if they could both be the same machine. > >Well, I might be totally off the planet here, but what about linux >running pc-nfs, and the dosmachines running some sort of pc-nfs too? > >You could then mount the wanted directory as you like. Not perfect, >probably not very secure (I think it depends on what nfs-protocol you >use), but you should get access to your dos-files stored on the >linux-machine. > >That is, I think so.. > >//jornj >(Of _course_ I've never tried it myself :) The source code for pcnfsd is supplied with the PC-NFS package. It should be fairly simple to compile pcnfsd, and run it on the linux server. Although I can't guarantee it would work without tweeking, it does use standard socket calls. I believe I saw some mail out there in one of the c.o.l.* news groups a few months ago from some- one who was doing this. Rich Hart -- Richard Hart rich@page-cadsvr.den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Astronautics Group (303) 971-4822 PO Box 179, Mail Stop H8700 FAX: (303) 971-1498 My comments are my own, and do not represent MMAG in any way. ------------------------------ From: el@lisse.NA (Dr Eberhard W Lisse) Subject: Re: routing problem Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 18:23:41 GMT hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz) writes: >Marcelo Zacarias (marcelo@myhost.subdomain.domain) wrote: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Could you pleeze tell me what strange kind of e-mail address this is?? [...] >: > marcelo@ciagri.usp.br | CIAGRI - Centro de Informatica na Agricultura > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >This does look much better. He forgot to configure news. Look into /usr/local/lib/news, there is a readme telling you to edit some files. el -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Windhoek Central Hospital \ * | Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology Private Bag 13215 \ / 61 203 2106/7 (Bleeper) 61 224014 (home) Windhoek, Namibia ;____/ ------------------------------ From: kubla@wilbur.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Dominik Kubla) Subject: Re: "New" directory structure... Date: 5 Dec 1993 18:46:25 GMT Itai Zukerman (zukerman@rosarita.berkeley.edu) wrote: : i've seen mentioned in several places that "linux" is moving to a : new directory arrangement, specifically involving the creation of : /sbin, some shifts in /etc and possibly other changes. (i realize : this is also a matter of taste, hence the quotes). for example, the : lilo documentation comes with QuickInst.new (or somesuch) supporting : the so-called "new" structure. : has there been discussion of this? have i missed it? are there : references? where can i read about the pros and cons of different : directory arrangements? : -new, inexperienced linux user : -itai This discussion is taking place on the FSSTND channel of the linux-activists mailing list. Look for an archive site of this channel (Dan, does something like that exist at all ?). Also there are already some references to the FSSTND draft (as in lilo.13) this discussion is not yet closed. Everything is in the draft stage for now (but we have come pretty far). ASA we (the FSSTND channel) reach a final state it will be presented to the whole linux community (as a proposal that is) That will most likely be done by Dan Quinlan and will most likely appear on the c.o.l.announce newsgroup. So if you want to follow the discussion, then listen to the mailing list. But don't start another discussion in the newsgroups. That won't help at all. -- Cheers, Dominik +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | eMail: kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE | | sMail: Dominik Kubla, Steinsberg 34, 56355 Nast"atten, F. R. Germany | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | | | "Linux: The choice of a GNU generation" --S. Frampton | | | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ DISCLAIMER: Everything written above are the expressed thoughts of the author and in no way connected to 'Johannes Gutenberg Universit"at', Mainz (Germany). This way, they do not have to care about what I say ... ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt) Subject: Re: mail daemon: smail, sendmail+IDA 5.6.x, Sendmail 8.6.4, umail Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 09:31:57 GMT In h9090166@hkuxb.hku.hk (Chan Lap Wah Samson) writes: >Hi, >Could someone explain some pros and cons on using Sendmail vs >smail or others? I'm using smail with Linux, it works ok so far. But >have heard other saying sendmail is good *and* easy (yet I've read some >posts comp.mail.sendmail about problems...) >Should I switch to it? Or follow the universal golden rule: > "If it ain't break, dont' fix it." Yes, "Never change a running system." When smail does its job, why do you want to get sendmail? Kai -- Kai Voigt, Werftstrasse 2, 24148 Kiel, Germany, +49 431 7297514 Wer Gruenkohl isst, und dabei nicht einmal die Bratkartoffeln vor dem gruenen Sut zu retten versucht, isst sowieso auch kleine Kinder. Martin Rost ------------------------------ From: quinlan@burgundy.cs.bucknell.edu (Daniel Quinlan) Subject: Re: "New" directory structure... Date: 05 Dec 1993 19:58:20 GMT Reply-To: quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu Itai Zukerman (zukerman@rosarita.berkeley.edu) wrote: >> i've seen mentioned in several places that "linux" is moving to a new >> directory arrangement [...] for example, the lilo documentation comes >> with QuickInst.new (or somesuch) supporting the so-called "new" >> structure. (Isn't this message several weeks old?) >> has there been discussion of this? have i missed it? are there >> references? where can i read about the pros and cons of different >> directory arrangements? (Do not panic!) Dominik Kubla (kubla@wilbur.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) writes: > This discussion is taking place on the FSSTND channel of the > linux-activists mailing list. Look for an archive site of this channel > (Dan, does something like that exist at all ?). I do not know if there is an archive of the channel or not. If not, there may be a FSSTND ("filesystem standard") channel reader with less discriminating tastes than myself (someone who saves *every* article). If that is the case, then such an archive could be made available. > Also there are already some references to the FSSTND draft (as in > lilo.13) this discussion is not yet closed. Everything is in the draft > stage for now (but we have come pretty far). Yes, the discussion is open to reasonable and hopefully knowledgeable Linux users, and I especially encourage =developers= (and experienced administrators as well) who could be affected by any possible "movements" in the Linux directory structure to either contact me or join the FSSTND channel. If you do join the channel, please consider that we have discussed these issues since early August and almost everything has been well-covered. > [as] we (the FSSTND channel) reach a final state it will be presented to > the whole linux community (as a proposal that is) That will most likely > be done by Dan Quinlan and will most likely appear on the c.o.l.announce > newsgroup. Eventually, but not too far off in the future... The set of recommendations that we plan to publicly release are, naturally, not enforceable, but if the weight of developers following our recommendations is as high as it promises to be, then it could become a de-facto standard or something of the sort. The most important thing to consider is that any possible improvement over the current disarray of ideas is a good thing, no matter what anyone may disagree with in the recommendations. > So if you want to follow the discussion, then listen to the mailing > list. But don't start another discussion in the newsgroups. That won't > help at all. Yes, newsgroups are generally not a good forum for discussion. // Dan -- Daniel Quinlan ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************