From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 12:13:40 EST Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #202 Linux-Admin Digest #202, Volume #1 Sat, 4 Dec 93 12:13:40 EST Contents: Re: How to set timezone information? (Kai Voigt) mail daemon: smail, sendmail+IDA 5.6.x, Sendmail 8.6.4, umail (Chan Lap Wah Samson) Date shows wrong timezone (zoneinfo set right!) (John S. Roberts Jr.) lpd (Robeo) Re: Routing tables getting corrupted (Seng-Poh Lee, Speedy) Re: SCSI problem (Steven Whitlatch) Re: How to set timezone information? (Rene COUGNENC) Linux as a DOS fileserver? (Dawn Brenneman) [SUMMARY] Linux in academia / industry - Recommendations needed (Ronan Mullally) Re: lpd (Erik Stenvall) Re: PPP for linux? (Niels Skov Olsen) Using Appletalk (CAP) with Linux (Kevin Rosenberg) Re: Smail woes (car1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk) Re: Linux as a DOS fileserver? (Chris Royle) Re: backup using floppies (David E. Fox) Re: Linux as a DOS fileserver? (R. Stewart Ellis) Re: backup using floppies (Johan Myreen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt) Subject: Re: How to set timezone information? Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 09:53:18 GMT In mmatveev@boi.hp.com (Maxim Matveev) writes: >Hi, >Can anybody explain me, how to set timezone information on Linux? >First, I simple set TZ environment variable - no effect, >after I try to play with settimeofday. Sure it set desired time, >but not timezone. >Really this is the honor for me to live near London, but >please bring me back to Idaho :) Go to /usr/lib/zoneinfo, here you find all the files you need. The file time.doc explains all the things you need. In short form: Switch your hardware clock to GMT time (the Greenwich time), then you have to find the correct timezone you are in (is it US/central? I have no idea where Idaho is :-) )... Then you copy this file to localtime and posixrules: rm -f localtime posixrules cp US/central localtime cp US/central posixrules Finally you will need a line /etc/clock -u -s in your /etc/rc.local file. This should set your time correctly when you boot your system for the next time. Cheers, Kai -- Kai Voigt, Werftstrasse 2, 24148 Kiel, Germany, +49 431 7297514 Wer Gruenkohl isst, und dabei nicht einmal die Bratkartoffeln vor dem gruenen Sut zu retten versucht, isst sowieso auch kleine Kinder. Martin Rost ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: h9090166@hkuxb.hku.hk (Chan Lap Wah Samson) Subject: mail daemon: smail, sendmail+IDA 5.6.x, Sendmail 8.6.4, umail Reply-To: h9090166@hkuxb.hku.hk Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 15:39:36 GMT Hi, Could someone explain some pros and cons on using Sendmail vs smail or others? I'm using smail with Linux, it works ok so far. But have heard other saying sendmail is good *and* easy (yet I've read some posts comp.mail.sendmail about problems...) Should I switch to it? Or follow the universal golden rule: "If it ain't break, dont' fix it." Thanks. Sams ------------------------------ From: johnr@ms.uky.edu (John S. Roberts Jr.) Subject: Date shows wrong timezone (zoneinfo set right!) Date: 3 Dec 1993 18:22:39 -0500 Everything worked fine with pl10. When I upgraded to pl13 the date command would report that it was linked wrong or something and that it needed to be recompiled. This would happen whenever I ran it, however it would still display the correct date/time/timezone info. Now when I run date (under pl14) I get no errors at all, and it reports the wrong timezone. I think that I need a new date. Should I just grab the one out of a newer distribution, should I get the source someplace and recompile it, or do I have another problem? Thanks so much!!! John -- -=+ John S. Roberts, Jr. 100 McVey Hall Work: 257-2275 +=- -=+ University of Kentucky Home: 272-1417 - FAX: 272-7105 +=- -- -=+ John S. Roberts, Jr. 100 McVey Hall Work: 257-2275 +=- -=+ University of Kentucky Home: 272-1417 - FAX: 272-7105 +=- ------------------------------ From: scc016rf@unm.edu (Robeo) Subject: lpd Date: 3 Dec 1993 19:25:15 -0700 Okay,I know this has been asked before,but I cannot find the answer anywhere...including the FAQ's and HOWTO's. Lpr is broken,or the lpd is broken when I try to print with lpr I get the familiar lpr: connect: No such file or directory jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. I have all the files with the right permissions,including the ones in /dev and that didnt work. I'm using SLS 1.03 with kernel pl13 and I am running the tcp/ip software included with sls. Thanks for the help! Robert Franklin scc016rf@carina.unm.edu ch118rf@alpha.lanl.gov ch118rf@technet.nm.org ------------------------------ From: splee@pd.org (Seng-Poh Lee, Speedy) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: Routing tables getting corrupted Date: 4 Dec 1993 03:50:39 GMT Seng-Poh Lee, Speedy (splee@pd.org) wrote: > I have about 5 sub-nets on my network. I set a default gateway on my > Linux box. When I access the sub-nets, the route gets redirected, and > the correct gateway gets added into the table. Its doesn't happen > everytime, but many times, the presence of this new route prevents me > from accessing any other network. I tried adding static routes for all > the sub-nets, but I STILL get a new duplicate route added when I access As a follow up, I found out why this was still happening. I had entries in my /etc/networks file of the form; net-a 192.9.200.0 alias1 This form works fine on Suns, but Linux doesn't like the alias and doesn't treat it like a network. This drove me crazy because I KNEW I was setting the network, but the static routes weren't showing up correctly. Just using net-a 192.9.200.0 works fine. Now my box is running like a dream, NFS client/server and all! This should be in the NET-2 faq. -- Seng-Poh Lee ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development From: swhitlat@nmt.edu (Steven Whitlatch) Subject: Re: SCSI problem Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 19:38:15 GMT In article ege@cerl.fiu.edu (Dr. Raimund K. Ege) writes: >after installing a UltraStor 34F SCSI card and a SEAGATE 1.05GB disk >I get the following warning upon reboot: > > Uhhuh. NMI received. dazed and confused, but trying to continue > You probably have a hardware problem with you RAM chips > >Linux continues to boot, recognizes the disk, and runs fine as usual. >I am running .99pl14. At first the SCSI card did not work: it >used IRQ 14, which I changed to IRQ 11. (all other setting are >still the factory default: BIOS c8000, IO base 330H). > >What does the warning indicate ? Should I change some other settings ? >Do I have to worry ? Should I remove the card ? > I'm using the 34F on IRQ 10 and IO port 340. It works good there for me. Steve Whitlatch swhitlat@prism.nmt.edu ------------------------------ From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC) Subject: Re: How to set timezone information? Date: 3 Dec 1993 19:55:31 GMT Ce brave Maxim Matveev ecrit: > Can anybody explain me, how to set timezone information on Linux? > First, I simple set TZ environment variable - no effect, > Really this is the honor for me to live near London, but > please bring me back to Idaho :) Cd to /usr/lib/zoneinfo; if you don't have this directory, get the file ~/sources/sbin/timesrc-1.2.tar.gz from your favourite mirror site, or the binary distribution "zoneinfo.tgz" if you prefer. Read the file "Time.doc", make the appropriate copy as explained, and you're done. -- linux linux linux linux -[ cougnenc@renux.frmug.fr.net ]- linux linux linux ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 21:07:03 EST From: Dawn Brenneman Subject: Linux as a DOS fileserver? I'd like to use a Linux box as a fileserver for an ethernet network running Windows for Workgroups (TCP/IP as the protocol). Does anyone administer a Linux network that serves DOS applications to the various nodes? (The idea here is to have an internet host that doubles as a fileserver...) -- dmb ------------------------------ From: ronan@scamall9.iol.ie (Ronan Mullally) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: [SUMMARY] Linux in academia / industry - Recommendations needed Date: 4 Dec 1993 04:15:48 -0000 First of all my apologies for the delay in posting this summary, I've been a bit busy of late. Secondly my thanks to the many people that replied. OK, where do I start... My original post was about setting up a Linux machine as a *nix server for about 40 final year Computer Science students, not as a machine for any sort of serious development work, but as a testbed where they could play around with a real *nix system in a safe environment. Rather than try to cover the many and varied replies I got I'll give the overall conclusions I reached. I had responses from people using Linux boxes as mail/news servers, personal workstations, and people running labs full of Linux boxes! Most people found Linux stable and reliable. I had several responses from people who thought the idea of having the students run the system themselves was a good one, as it gives them a chance to pick up some very useful practical experience. The hardware side was straightforward enough - you can never have to much RAM, especially if X is to be used, or there'll be a fair bit of compiling going on. A 486DX2/66 with upwards of 16MB of RAM should be able to handle 10-12 'well-behaved' users concurrently. Linux was recommended as the OS to use by everybody bar one - this is not exactly surprising seeing as I only posted to the c.o.l hierarchy ;-) The reasons put forward for Linux were generally: - Its free - You get the complete kernel source - It works - It sometimes doesn't work ;-) (as in it will occasionally crash, giving the students a chance to loose some sleep trying to get things fixed) - Its resilient - if something goes seriously wrong you can (hopefully!) re-install everything from scratch and have a working system back in a matter of hours - It makes better use of the hardware than other *nixes - Its a complete *nix system - It gives you a *nix workstation for half the price of a typical *nix box - There's enough rough edges to keep people challenged / busy improving things The reasons against Linux were: - Networking still needs some work (though it _is_ getting there!) - Lack of Documentation - Not uniform enough to provide a good teaching system. Now for the results! I submitted a proposal to the CS dept looking for a machine to set up. However at this stage things don't look promising, for two reasons: - its a 'distraction' for the students (fair enough, its almost half way through the academic year, we've got plenty of other things to do) - there's a horrendous amount of politicking involved between the CS dept (the good guys) and computing services (the bad guys), who don't like the idea of a machine they don't control on the campus net. ( Not that it'd make much of a difference, they hardly seem to be able to manage the machines they already control ;-) ) However! In the longer term, say for the next academic year, there is the possibility that something could be set up next summer, so all is not lost... Thanks again to everybody who replied. -- Ronan Mullally 320 Sutton Park, Sutton Dublin 13, Ireland. ------------------------------ From: d0ess@dtek.chalmers.se (Erik Stenvall) Subject: Re: lpd Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 09:04:43 GMT scc016rf@unm.edu (Robeo) writes: >Okay,I know this has been asked before,but I cannot find the answer >anywhere...including the FAQ's and HOWTO's. >Lpr is broken,or the lpd is broken >when I try to print with lpr I get the familiar >lpr: connect: No such file or directory >jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. >I have all the files with the right permissions,including the ones >in /dev and that didnt work. >I'm using SLS 1.03 with kernel pl13 and I am running the tcp/ip >software included with sls. I assume that you start lpd in /etc/rc or similar. If so the problem is probably that lpd dies after checking for any queued jobs. I've had this same problem as well. My solution was to remove the tcp/ip out of the kernel! Suddenly lpd stop dying and everything works ok. I suspect that when lpd is run in an tcp/ip-environment it expects to be called from inetd when needed. /Ess -- I d0ess@dtek.chalmers.se I Talking mush about oneself can also be a means I I Erik Stenvall (D90) I to conceal oneself -- Friedrich Nietzsche I ------------------------------ From: dingbat@diku.dk (Niels Skov Olsen) Subject: Re: PPP for linux? Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 10:30:56 GMT naubertp@cognos.COM (Patrick Naubert) writes: >William Devine II (wdevine@pvcea.pvamu.edu) wrote: >: Is there any way to use PPP on linux? >: I am still compiling and getting the bugs out of ppp code for the SUN >: but it is installed and ready to go? at least from what i've tested, >: but i cannot seem to find any PPP client and/or server code for my >: Linux system. Anybody have any ideas? I tried to use the same code i >: used on the suns (it's Sun and 386bsd compatible) but obviously it did not >: work (or i would not be asking this question!) #include Will PPP allow me to create a point-to-point link to a machine where I have only non-root access. To rephrase: can I start a PPP server as a normal user on the remote and bring up a link to the linux box without having to involve an administrator on the remote system? Niels ===== ...pressing the 'n' key while injecting a large dose of Flame-Antidote (tm) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.appletalk From: kevin@lhc.nlm.nih.gov (Kevin Rosenberg) Subject: Using Appletalk (CAP) with Linux Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 09:18:26 GMT Hello! I would like to use Columbia Appletalk Protocol (CAP 6.0) on my Linux system, but am getting compile errors. Has anyone had sucess using CAP with linux? Thanks! Kevin Rosenberg kevin@lhc.nlm.nih.gov ------------------------------ From: car1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: Smail woes Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 11:25:58 GMT In comp.os.linux.admin, Herman G. Munster (munster@grapesoft.mcs.com) wrote: > Is there some sort of manual for smail other than the man pages? I don't want > it to use uux, I want it to use SMTP. But I can't figure out how. > Jerry Actually, it doesn't need to use just one or the other of SMTP & uux. I have it selecting which it uses from some lookup tables. The configuration options you want are : /usr/local/lib/smail/config: smart_path= smart_transport=smtp Which will send all mail to your smart router (you probably have one). Certainly in the UK academic community, it's very unlikely indeed that you won't use a smart router because of all of the (somewhat overbearing and complex) policy which governs JANET mail. However, you probably aren't in the UK, but whatever organization you are in, you're bound to have a smart mail host somewhere that will do the actual routing for you. If you *really* don't want to use a smarthost, perhaps you should try putting a pathalias entry in your "routers file" at the top as follows: routers file: pathalias: driver = pathalias, transport=smtp; file = /usr/local/lib/smail/paths, proto=lsearch then, that paths file : * *!%s .. *might* do it, but I haven't tried it. Chris. ------------------------------ From: c@angela.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk (Chris Royle) Subject: Re: Linux as a DOS fileserver? Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 12:03:37 GMT In comp.os.linux.admin, Dawn Brenneman (DMB160@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote: > I'd like to use a Linux box as a fileserver for an ethernet network running > Windows for Workgroups (TCP/IP as the protocol). Does anyone administer > a Linux network that serves DOS applications to the various nodes? > (The idea here is to have an internet host that doubles as a fileserver...) > -- > dmb I'll be impressed when I see that one happening.... :-) Better still, why not port novell 3.11 to Linux :-)) (Oops... i think my calendar is wrong, it seems to be showing April 1st...). Just teasing... Chris. ------------------------------ From: root@belvedere.sbay.org (David E. Fox) Subject: Re: backup using floppies Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 05:55:37 GMT Mahesh Neelakanta (mahesh@inca.gate.net) wrote: : In article <754831887.AA00000@owl.isis.org> Dr.Andy@p3.f506.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Dr Andy) writes: : > # tar cvfzM /dev/fd0 / : > : Try cpio instead: : find / -type f -print |cpio --create --block-size=32 --verbose -O /dev/fd0H1440 : will save all files to a 3.5" floppy (Drive A:). Why do you (and perhaps others) prefer cpio over tar? : mahesh : ps. The cpio I use is the GNU one. -- David Fox root@belvedere.sbay.org 5479 Castle Manor Drive San Jose, CA 95129 Thanks for letting me change 408/253-7992 magnetic patterns on your hard disk. ------------------------------ From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Linux as a DOS fileserver? Date: 4 Dec 93 15:37:12 GMT c@angela.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk (Chris Royle) writes: >In comp.os.linux.admin, Dawn Brenneman (DMB160@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote: >> I'd like to use a Linux box as a fileserver for an ethernet network running >> Windows for Workgroups (TCP/IP as the protocol). Does anyone administer >> a Linux network that serves DOS applications to the various nodes? >> (The idea here is to have an internet host that doubles as a fileserver...) >> -- >> dmb >I'll be impressed when I see that one happening.... :-) Better still, >why not port novell 3.11 to Linux :-)) (Oops... i think my calendar is wrong, >it seems to be showing April 1st...). Just teasing... >Chris. There has been a lengthy thread on this topic in the 386bsd groups, NETbios and SMB server software that will run on UNIX using TCP/IP. Sounds like several people have it working or are near. I also remember a thread here about a year ago. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,News and sendmail maintainer, all around hack /________/ / / / / ------------------------------ From: jem@snakemail.hut.fi (Johan Myreen) Subject: Re: backup using floppies Date: 04 Dec 1993 16:21:53 GMT In article <2dnlab$5ac@inca.gate.net> mahesh@inca.gate.net (Mahesh Neelakanta) writes: >In article <754831887.AA00000@owl.isis.org> Dr.Andy@p3.f506.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Dr Andy) writes: >> # tar cvfzM /dev/fd0 / >> >Try cpio instead: >find / -type f -print |cpio --create --block-size=32 --verbose -O /dev/fd0H1440 This does not answer the original question, which was "What format should the floppies be initially formatted in, before I use them for backup?" Or does cpio format automatically, if it detects an unfomatted floppy? (Hope not...) To answer the question: probably any format is ok. Tar (and cpio) treats the disk as containing a stream of blocks without any structure. As long as the disk is "formatted", i.e. it contains the needed sectors, address marks etc, it's ok. I have used floppies formatted with DOS, Sony workstations and even Macintoshes (only 1440K) to write tar arcives on. The original file system written by, for instance, the DOS format command is lost, of course. Btw, even Linux has a 'format' command... -- Johan Myreen jem@cs.hut.fi 60 11'55" N, 24 53'30" E ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************