From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 14 Nov 93 08:18:47 EST Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #155 Linux-Admin Digest #155, Volume #1 Sun, 14 Nov 93 08:18:47 EST Contents: How do you install XFree86 2.0? (Sam A Gentile) Re: SunService Supports WEITEK / UFC Crypt (Tarl Neustaedter) Re: TCL 7.1/TK 3.4 on Linux ? (Reinhard Zierke) Re: SLIP: *Almost* working (Charles Hedrick) Re: filesystem for archive disks (Rene COUGNENC) Re: mv feature? (Bruce Thompson 295-5967(w or 229-3370(h))) Slackware 1.1.0 is good! (Phil Perucci) How often to do an e2fsck? (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh) Re: UUGETTY respawning too rapidly? (Dan Everhart) Difference between cua and ttyS (Dan Everhart) Re: How to get rid of colors (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP) Re: TCL 7.1/TK 3.4 on Linux ? (Joerg Schaefer) Re: How to get rid of colors (Philip Balister) Re: How to get rid of colors (Patrick J. Volkerding) Re: Difference between cua and ttyS (Sebastian Hetze) Re: authd/pidentd (Steven Hessing) XFLOW PROBLEM: HELP! (Jeffrey A Stern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sgentile@world.std.com (Sam A Gentile) Subject: How do you install XFree86 2.0? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 20:12:30 GMT Hi, I have seen the announcements for XFree 2.0. I have the Yggdrasil LGX Fall 93 distribution installed. What I am confused about is that there are so many files listed. Which ones do I really need? I only want binaries and whatever libaries I need. I have simple VGA, no specialized video boards? What is the minimal files that I need? Can I just install right on top of LGX? Thanks for your help, Sam ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.security.unix From: tarl@bostech.com (Tarl Neustaedter) Subject: Re: SunService Supports WEITEK / UFC Crypt Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 20:37:56 GMT In article <2bt3ds$kjp@uk-usenet.uk.sun.com> alecm@uk-usenet.uk.sun.com writes: >>: >How many ufc-crypts per second do you get on a Weitek chip? Anyone? > >If anyone can get the figures on this, I'd *love* to know. It's not a >particularly USEFUL benchmark except to people who want to use Crack, >but then, I have a vested interest. 8-) > >Using UFC's SPARC assembler stub, I measure a SS2 as an easy to >remember 1250eps (ie: encryptions per second). That's roughly the figures I come up with. An IPC is a little over 1000 per second, an IPX about 1250 per second, and my home IPX upgraded with the Weitek Power uP is about 1550 per second. This algorithm seems to be memory-bandwidth limited, so the weitek doesn't manage to speed it up all that much. In any case, the specific output from a Power uP: ./speedc Running crypt(libc) for 100 seconds of virtual time ... Did 39.590000 crypt()s per second. ./speedf Running UFC-crypt for 100 seconds of virtual time ... Did 1548.189941 fcrypt()s per second. -- Tarl Neustaedter tarl@bostech.com [work] Ashland, MA, USA tarl@coyoacan.dmc.com [home] ------------------------------ From: zierke@rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Reinhard Zierke) Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl Subject: Re: TCL 7.1/TK 3.4 on Linux ? Date: 13 Nov 93 22:43:34 GMT pcc@s1.gov (Philip C. Cox) writes: > Has anyone gotten tcl 7.1 & tk 3.4 to run on linux? I am > working on it, but do not want to duplicat effort :-) It has just yesterday been included into the slackware release. Reinhard -- Reinhard Zierke Universitaet Hamburg, FB Informatik zierke@informatik.uni-hamburg.de Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, D-22527 Hamburg postmaster@uni-hamburg.de Tel.: (040) 54715-295 Fax: -303 ------------------------------ From: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) Subject: Re: SLIP: *Almost* working Date: 13 Nov 93 23:10:00 GMT ah@doc.ic.ac.uk (Angelo Haritsis) writes: >been 1.62 Kbytes/sec (zip). So I am loosing some bandwith here and >for this reason I will investigate how much faster CSLIP can be. >Does any of you have experience on speed comparison between >SLIP/CSLIP ? Is it worth trying (given that I have an error correction >compression modem)? CSLIP isn't going to help much in tests of bandwidth. CSLIP effectively removes most of the IP and TCP header. This doesn't make so much difference with large packets, size the header is probably 5 to 10% of the packet. Where it makes a big difference is interactive response. With telnet, you've typically got a packet with 40 bytes of header and 1 byte of data. Assume about 1 Kbyte/sec. That means it's going to take 80 millisec for an echo (the packet has to go both ways). That's a long enough delay to be annoying. CSLIP almost completely eliminates that. So a telnet connection changes from something painful to something almost as good as a hardwired line. I haven't noticed that modem compression makes much difference to the interactive feel of a line, though it may have some effect on FTP throughput. I'd love to see the equivalent of CSLIP for X. Unfortunately X has its own overhead, which CSLIP won't help with. ------------------------------ From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC) Subject: Re: filesystem for archive disks Date: 12 Nov 1993 16:28:19 GMT Ce brave Davor Cubranic ecrit: > Since I don't have a tape drive (and don't have much chance of buying > one anytime soon) and do have a stack of HD floppies, I'm using floppies > for archiving software packages I get on internet. For example, > I FRP some GNU stuff at the computer lab, take it home, install it on > my Linux machine, and have it at the same time archived should I need > to reinstall it. The question I have is which filesystem should I use > on those floppies: with msdos I can't have long filenames, but with > ext2 (i.e. ext2fs) I'm loosing 5% of disk space that is reserved for Why don't use tar floppies ? You will be able to untar them on most Unix systems whith a 3"1/2 drive, I do that all the time. (At least between Linux/Sun/Sony/RS600) You will loose disk space, however; because it is a bad idea to try to make multivolume tar disks: Don't expect the last tracks to be correctly read by the various bad aligned floppy drives... -- linux linux linux linux -[ cougnenc@renux.frmug.fr.net ]- linux linux linux ------------------------------ From: thompson@sun.cuug.ab.ca (Bruce Thompson 295-5967(w) or 229-3370(h)) Subject: Re: mv feature? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 06:31:55 GMT In article <1993Nov4.224219.17518@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com> miner@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com (Jonathan Miner) writes: In article rfrankel@us.oracle.com (Rick Frankel) writes: >I haven't seen this mentioned so... > >On pl12 and with the e2fs file system, doing mv `dir1' `dir2' >with two existing directories, will actually move dir1 and all that is >under it to dir2! Perfectly normal under most UNIX systems. > >rick >-- >rfrankel@us.oracle.com >richard.frankel@amail.amdahl.com Jon -- | Jonathan Miner | | | miner@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com | | | 603-885-2438 <> | | | BTW: I do not speak for Lockheed or anybody else. Just me! | In fact that's required behavior under most Unices. The SunOs (4.1.1) man page states: SYNOPSIS mv [ - ] [ -fi ] filename1 filename2 mv [ - ] [ -fi ] directory1 directory2 mv [ - ] [ -fi ] filename ... directory DESCRIPTION [...] The second form of mv moves (changes the name of) directory1 to directory2, only if directory2 does not already exist - if it does, the third form applies. The third form of mv moves one or more filenames (may also be directories) with their original names, into the last directory in the list. (Reprinted without permission) In other words, because the second directory already existed, you were telling mv that you wanted the first directory to be moved into the second directory. Which is precisely what it did. If you wanted the contents of the first directory to be moved into the second one, something like: mv dir1/* dir2 would have been more appropriate. Cheers, Bruce. -- Bruce Thompson, |I do not speak for CUUG, ACTC Technologies, Software Development Engineer,|Renegade Legion nor NAPRA, just myself. ACTC Technologies Inc. |"So this is it, we're going to die!" Renegade Legion, NAPRA #473 | -- Dent Arthur Dent ------------------------------ From: philp@universe.digex.net (Phil Perucci) Subject: Slackware 1.1.0 is good! Date: 13 Nov 1993 20:56:32 -0500 Hello Linux fans... Just installed Slackware 1.1.0 with ET4000 and NEC IID! The new XFree86 2.0 is beautiful! Just a quick peek at Xconfig and I was up. Easiest install yet! -- ============================================================================== Phil Perucci | "All postings are my own opinion - all comments Systems Programmer | are intended for research/educational purposes" ============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh) Subject: How often to do an e2fsck? Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 01:40:50 GMT How often is it neccessary to do an e2fsck? I have just a 35 meg Linux partition (for now) and although I am not getting any fragmentation errors or the like I am feeling compelled. ------------------------------ From: dan@dynamo.dyndata.com (Dan Everhart) Subject: Re: UUGETTY respawning too rapidly? Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 02:15:36 GMT Reply-To: dan@dyndata.com In article henryc@reality.UUCP (Christian Henry) writes: > In article , > PERUCCI, PHILIP A. wrote: > > >I am currently trying to get uugetty (getty_ps) working with > >Slackware 1.0.5. > > As an example, here's a copy of my uugetty.cua0 : > Another helpful thing is to add the line DEBUG=777 to the uugetty.xxx file. This will create a debugging transscript in /tmp. -- _ / \_ Dan Everhart / Dyndata Engineering dan@dyndata.com \_/ \_________________________________________ 206-743-6982, 742-8604 (fax) / \_/ 7107 179th St SW \_/ Quality Software and Hardware Consulting Edmonds, WA 98026, USA ------------------------------ From: dan@dynamo.dyndata.com (Dan Everhart) Subject: Difference between cua and ttyS Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 06:28:19 GMT Reply-To: dan@dyndata.com This seems like an obvious question, but I don't find a definitive description in any of the docs. What exactly is the difference between /dev/ttyS and /dev/cua? I.e. device majors 4 and 5. In the course of reading c.o.l.* over the weeks I've seen people having problems with a tty advised to try using the cua instead, as well as the converse, and "see if that fixes it". :-) Since I am frequently plugging one serial thing into another, I'd like to operate from a position of knowledge rather than trial and error - so can anyone provide a thorough and correct description of the difference between these two devices? -- _ / \_ Dan Everhart / Dyndata Engineering dan@dyndata.com \_/ \_________________________________________ 206-743-6982, 742-8604 (fax) / \_/ 7107 179th St SW \_/ Quality Software and Hardware Consulting Edmonds, WA 98026, USA ------------------------------ From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP) Subject: Re: How to get rid of colors Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 07:11:50 GMT In article <2c0vqa$872@s1.gov> of comp.os.linux.admin, pcc@s1.gov (Philip C. Cox) writes: > I just installed Slack 1.1.0 and I was introduced to ncurses and > those blasted colors. My question is ; How do I get it to not display > files on colors, or how can I change the colors? To remove colors from ls: * Remove the -o option from your .profile, /etc/profile, .cshrc or /etc/csh.cshrc file. To change colors: * Define an LS_COLORS variable. It is all in the manpage, by the way. Also, as a fair warning, the next version of color-ls (currently in alpha testing) will have a new format LS_COLORS variable, in order to be more terminal independent. By the way, color-ls does not use (n)curses. /hpa -- INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu FINGER/TALK: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu IBM MAIL: I036073 at IBMMAIL NeXTMAIL: hpa@speedy.acns.nwu.edu ANMÄRKNING: Heja Sverige friskt humör! EG väntar utanför! Linux Is Not UniX ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl From: joscha@atab.lahn.de (Joerg Schaefer) Subject: Re: TCL 7.1/TK 3.4 on Linux ? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 21:53:11 GMT Philip C. Cox (pcc@s1.gov) schrieb: > Has anyone gotten tcl 7.1 & tk 3.4 to run on linux? I am > working on it, but do not want to duplicat effort :-) Yes. I compiled it with only two changes. In tclMain.c i inserted #include (for the definition of R_OK). The same in tkMain.c. Annyone here made dll-Libraries for tcl7.1 and tk3.4 ???? Joerg -- Joerg Schaefer -=- joscha@atab.lahn.de -=- D-35396 Giessen-Wieseck ------------------------------ From: balister@maddog.async.vt.edu (Philip Balister) Subject: Re: How to get rid of colors Date: 13 Nov 1993 18:43:33 GMT Reply-To: pbaliste@vt.edu Philip C. Cox (pcc@s1.gov) wrote: : I just installed Slack 1.1.0 and I was introduced to ncurses and : those blasted colors. My question is ; How do I get it to not display : files on colors, or how can I change the colors? I think you are refering to color ls? If so try alias 'ls=--no-colors' or recompile ls. Philip -- Reply to: pbaliste@vt.edu Linux: The choice of a GNU generation! ------------------------------ Subject: Re: How to get rid of colors From: volkerdi@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Patrick J. Volkerding) Date: 14 Nov 93 02:32:46 -0600 In article hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) writes: >In article <2c0vqa$872@s1.gov> of comp.os.linux.admin, > pcc@s1.gov (Philip C. Cox) writes: >> I just installed Slack 1.1.0 and I was introduced to ncurses and >> those blasted colors. My question is ; How do I get it to not display >> files on colors, or how can I change the colors? > >To remove colors from ls: > > * Remove the -o option from your .profile, /etc/profile, .cshrc or > /etc/csh.cshrc file. > >To change colors: > > * Define an LS_COLORS variable. > > >It is all in the manpage, by the way. Also, as a fair warning, the >next version of color-ls (currently in alpha testing) will have a new >format LS_COLORS variable, in order to be more terminal independent. > >By the way, color-ls does not use (n)curses. > Although I did use code from one of Peter's earlier patches (and probably wouldn't have gotten far without it :^), the color ls in the current Slackware does not use the LS_COLORS environment variable. All the color defaults in it are hard coded. Jayme Cox sent me an updated version of my first color-ls patch, and I've used it to crank out yet-another-color-ls-patch that I plan to include in Slackware very soon. It reads its defaults from a file (/etc/DIR_COLORS) that's completely reconfigurable, including which file extensions are recognized. This new patch (against GNU fileutils 3.9) is on ftp.cdrom.com in /pub/linux/misc. And for all you color-haters, you erase /etc/DIR_COLORS - no color. In response to the original question, you can get rid of colors in Slackware 1.1.0 any of the following methods: 1. Copying the ls from /bin to /usr/bin. 2. Removing the ls in /usr/bin. 3. Putting /bin ahead of /usr/bin in your path. All of these methods are mentioned in the SLACKWARE_MINI_FAQ you find at most Slackware sites, BTW. --- Patrick Volkerding volkerdi@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu ------------------------------ From: she@lunetix.de (Sebastian Hetze) Subject: Re: Difference between cua and ttyS Date: 14 Nov 1993 09:41:46 GMT Dan Everhart (dan@dynamo.dyndata.com) wrote: : What exactly is the difference between /dev/ttyS and /dev/cua? : I.e. device majors 4 and 5. The ttyS devices - when not opened O_NONBLOCKing - block your open(2) syscall until at least the carrier detect signal is high. If the corresponding cua device is busy, open(2) blocks, too. The cua devices dont't care about carriers and open(2) non blocking. If the corresponding ttyS device is in use, opening a cua device will return EBUSY immediately. For further information i advise you to view /usr/src/linux/kernel/chr_drv/serial.c. Search for rs_open() and friends. block_til_ready() is the one that makes the difference. -- Sebastian Hetze she@lunetix.de LunetIX Softfair Lichtenrader Str. 41 12049 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 6227300 ------------------------------ From: stevenh@sci.kun.nl (Steven Hessing) Subject: Re: authd/pidentd Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 11:35:13 GMT In <2c2dah$g00@genesis.ait.psu.edu> fee@cxf111.rh.psu.edu (Chuck Fee) writes: >Has anyone successfully compiled authd or identd for Linux? Yes, Pauline Middelink (middelin@calvin.iaf.nl) has. You can get the authd package at sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/Daemons/authd.tar.gz You don't need to apply the kernel patches if you're running Linux 0.99.13q. If you're running a tcp_wrapper make sure you don't use it in inetd.conf to start identd. If you do you'll get an endless loop. >I had marginally more success with pidentd (ie it compiled 3 files >before it puked rather than 0) but I'm lost when it comes to kernel >access. Pidentd access the kernel for determining which user is connected >to the remote host, while authd uses netstat. >with pidentd, Operating systems already supported (sunos, 386bsd, hpux, etc) >all have a single .c file for accessing kernel structures. The other.c file >is not well suited for linux (it expects bsd header files for one thing) >and the scope of doing the kernel stuff is over my head. >From what I gather, it would seem the proc filesystem provides all the >necessary hooks for extracting the information pidentd is looking for. Yep, that's true. And it was used. >any help will be greatly appreciated. If you've managed to get either >of these working, please drop me a line. >btw, the source for both of these is available at >ftp.uu.net:/networking/ident/servers >-- >Chuck Fee If we pass NAFTA, Software Patents become >fee@cxf111.rh.psu.edu entwined in International Law. > -- Steven Hessing | Just because you're paranoid, stevenh@sci.kun.nl | don't mean they're not after you. Dathes on irc | - Nirvana ------------------------------ From: jstern@eclectic.ss.uci.edu (Jeffrey A Stern) Subject: XFLOW PROBLEM: HELP! Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Date: 14 Nov 93 12:40:06 GMT This is REALLY VERY ANNOYING!!! I can't find any FAQ answer to this, and both I and another fellow have posted, without any response. So ANYONE who knows what's going on, would you please let this clueless guy in on how to fix this??? I can't turn off xflow somehow. For instance, while in Emacs or Mg, if I type ^S, it interprets it as a stop, instead of letting Emacs have the character. So saving is impossible except via ^X^C or ^X^W, etc.. searches always have to be done backward, etc. sz/rz won't work, either. I HAVE looked at stty OVER and OVER and OVER... I have looked into tset, gettytabs, and even setterm. This is a pain. I have tried to mimick other machines' stty configurations which don't have the same problem when I log in with exactly the same modem software via the same terminal server. But nothing seems to help. Does anyone know what to set? Is it the driver? What? Thanks for *any* help, sorry if I haven't been specific enough, I can post more if necessary. Please, no 'idiot' responses, though: I am NOT posting capriciously-- The only reason I am posting is because we am stumped and can't think of anything more to try. -- =========================================================================== Jeff Stern "Timex Sinclair UNIX.. coming soon to a dealer near you." =========================================================================== ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************