From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sat, 6 Nov 93 04:13:41 EST Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #142 Linux-Admin Digest #142, Volume #1 Sat, 6 Nov 93 04:13:41 EST Contents: UUGETTY respawning too rapidly? (PERUCCI, PHILIP A.) Net2? in pl13p with errors (Volkmar Eich) *> HELP! <* 1st time SLS install does not detect my SCSI drives (Howard Goldstein) fsck and .99.13p.. (Daniel Linder) Re: mv feature? (Frank Luthe) 'protecting' areas of physical memory? (Steve Wampler) Debugger wants libc source?! (Holger Muenx) Linux Installs (ST34698@vm.cc.latech.edu) Re: UUGETTY respawning too rapidly? (Andy McFadden) Re: fsck and .99.13p.. (Eric J. Schwertfeger) Re: mv feature? (Dan Haskell) Does any *human* know how NYS works? (Brian Capouch) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SSB1PZP@imcvms.med.navy.mil (PERUCCI, PHILIP A.) Subject: UUGETTY respawning too rapidly? Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 11:35:36 GMT I am currently trying to get uugetty (getty_ps) working with Slackware 1.0.5. With everything configured, at boot time I get a message about "c7: respawning too rapidly: disabled for 5 minutes" (note that the message is not verbatim - it is from memory). Anyone know what might cause this? I know it takes some doing to get this working... Can anyone comment on: 1: The respawning too rapidly message? 2: Must echo be DISABLED on the modem (Q and E AT commands)? 3: What about the DTR modem response (&D AT command)? 4: Is DEBUG=777 in /etc/default/uugetty.ttyS0 all that is required for trace? I have this, but get nothing in /tmp. 5: In /usr/adm/getty.log, I get nothing but "cannot connect" messages. I have all the READMEs, the HOWTO, and the NET-book (doc project) - and I read them. Read man pages for getty and gettydefs too. Still I am missing something... =========================================================================== Phil Perucci, Systems Programmer | "I don't speak for any organization ssb1pzp@imcvms.med.navy.mil | and no organization speaks for me" =========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: volkmar@gatekeeper.rhein.de (Volkmar Eich) Subject: Net2? in pl13p with errors Date: 5 Nov 1993 13:26:00 GMT Hi, because of problems with the existing net-2 code i changed my system from pl13 (net-debugged) to pl13p. In the old versions of net-2 I had problems with fragmented IP-Packets. I know, the weren't supported. As I got to know in pl13p (including net2debugged) this missing feature might be implemented. Now I got the following error message: <6>*** tcp.c:tcp_data bug acked < copied Can somebody help me. I know that this occurs when I should receive SMTP- Packets and try to connect to my newsserver. Thanks for your assitance. Volkmar ------------------------------ From: goldstei@cs.nyu.edu (Howard Goldstein) Subject: *> HELP! <* 1st time SLS install does not detect my SCSI drives Date: 5 Nov 1993 11:01:58 -0500 I am trying to install the most current version of SLS (from tsx-11). I have a 486, and a Future Domain TMC-1680 ISA SCSI Controller, controlling 2 Seagate drives. When I boot with A1, (A1.5), I get the messages: scsi: 0 hosts. scsi: detected 0 SCSI disks, 0 tapes, 0 CD-ROM drives total. The drives work fine in DOS. Can anyone suggest anything? Howard goldstei@cs.nyu.edu -- sdfnjsnfjksd ------------------------------ From: dlinder@cse.unl.edu (Daniel Linder) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: fsck and .99.13p.. Date: 5 Nov 1993 16:36:43 GMT Hello, Just recently, I downloaded the 0.99.13p ide kernal from slackware (the November 3rd or 4th release) and put it in as "/zImage.99.13". Then I added it as option "Beta" in LILO. I also kept my .99.12 slackware as "/zImage". Booting with the .12 kernel, when it comes time to run the "/bin/fsck -A -a", it runs just a second, sees the "clean" flag on the partition and does not run the fsck. When I boot linux with the .13p release, it runs what appears to be a complete fsck each boot. I am still doing the same shutdown procedure as before.... My orginal Slackware release was installed on August 17, and is probably the version just a couple days previous. - Did I miss discussion about a new kernel/other fix killing the e2fs clean flag? - Is this a new with the .99.13p kernel? - Is this a classic case of user error? Thanks! Dan -- | Dan Linder - Computer Sci/Engineer| "If there's nothing wrong with me, | | dlinder@cse.unl.edu - Senior | there must be something wrong with | | "Get LINUX and drop DOS" | the universe!" Bev Crusher-Remember Me | | Disclaimer: My university does not listen to me, why would I speak for them? | ------------------------------ From: frl@verdi.rd.sub.org (Frank Luthe) Subject: Re: mv feature? Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 10:08:25 GMT In rfrankel@us.oracle.com (Rick Frankel) writes: >Normal mv behavior does not allow relinking directories into different >places in the hierarchy. Huh? What mv are you talking about? The LinuX mv always did that and the mv of HP-UX did so, too. Why should it not do so? Directories are files, too, in principle. Greetings, Frank -- Frank Luthe, Flensburger Str. 38, 24768 Rendsburg, Germany email: frl@verdi.rd.sub.org ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: swampler@noao.edu (Steve Wampler) Subject: 'protecting' areas of physical memory? Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 18:28:35 GMT Is there a way to build a linux kernel that avoids specific physical address ranges? For example, in my old ESIX 5.3.2d, there is a file available at boot-time describing the available memory layout. I'd like to experiment to see if I can get linux to run with my cache enabled by simply having it never use the parts of memory that seem to crash linux when running with cache. (Yes, it does appear that I have to avoid using cache on specific areas of my memory {and not just for linux}, and without cache, I get a lot of NMI errors with my old motherboard/memory combination. sigh.) -- Steve Wampler swampler@noao.edu Gemini Project (under AURA) ------------------------------ From: muenx@heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Holger Muenx) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development Subject: Debugger wants libc source?! Date: 5 Nov 1993 19:25:17 GMT Guten Tag! Unfortunately, while debugging various pieces of code, I really that my debuggers -- gdb and ups -- demand the sources of libc when libc calls, like printf or whatever, are reached. I can pass it by using "next" instead of "step"ping into the call. However, it's not very comfortable. Moreover, I always get a disturbing little "beep" for each call with a missing source. My libs are from image-4.4.1.tar.gz (or so) from the GCC directory on sunsite. So: what I am doing wrong? Thank you in advance! Any information will be appreciated! Holger Muenx (muenx@heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de) ------------------------------ From: ST34698@vm.cc.latech.edu Subject: Linux Installs Date: Fri, 05 Nov 93 14:52:53 CST does anyone know where i can find 3.5" linux installs...i have a 386 with 4mb and have trie dos...windows...AND os2 and i want something better....i either need more ram or a better os...i heard linux is good....any ideas would be use ...useful...thanx in advance... ------------------------------ From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) Subject: Re: UUGETTY respawning too rapidly? Date: 5 Nov 93 21:23:50 GMT In article SSB1PZP@imcvms.med.navy.mil (PERUCCI, PHILIP A.) writes: >Can anyone comment on: > > 1: The respawning too rapidly message? You have an entry in your inittab (or whatever Linux uses) to restart UUGETTY whenever it dies. However, it's exiting/crashing/whatever right after it starts up. To keep your system from becoming unusable, init won't try to execute the command again for 5 minutes. You can usually find out what the problem is by executing the command directly, and looking at the output. Around here, we get that message a lot because ttymon dies whenever the access permissions or major/minor number on a /dev/ entry are wrong. (In fact, this very morning... urgh.) > 5: In /usr/adm/getty.log, I get nothing but "cannot connect" messages. Try running it manually; hopefully it'll tell you why. -- fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) "Our UNIX is bigger than your UNIX" [ These are my opinions, not Amdahl policies. ] ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: maniac@unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger) Subject: Re: fsck and .99.13p.. Date: Fri, 5 Nov 93 21:49:37 GMT In article <2bdver$g0m@crcnis1.unl.edu> dlinder@cse.unl.edu (Daniel Linder) writes: >Hello, > Just recently, I downloaded the 0.99.13p ide kernal from slackware >(the November 3rd or 4th release) and put it in as "/zImage.99.13". Then ... >it runs what appears to be a complete fsck each boot. I am still doing the >same shutdown procedure as before.... > My orginal Slackware release was installed on August 17, and is probably >the version just a couple days previous. > > - Did I miss discussion about a new kernel/other fix killing the e2fs > clean flag? I don't know, was ext2fs 0.4 rolled into 0.99.13p? If so, this could cause behavior similar to this, because 0.4 marks links a little differently, so if an earlier version was run, it will fsck the volume. Does it do this if you boot .99.13p twice in a row? And do you have the READONLY flag set in the BETA lilo definition? If it does and you do, then I think you have found a proble, otherwise, it's the changes to the ext2fs. -- Eric J. Schwertfeger, maniac@cs.unlv.edu ------------------------------ From: danh@teleport.com (Dan Haskell) Subject: Re: mv feature? Date: 5 Nov 1993 13:54:03 -0800 In article <2balfsEjlr@uni-erlangen.de> hoenig@immd3.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Joachim Hoenig) writes: >rfrankel@us.oracle.com (Rick Frankel) writes: > >>Is this a feature? It certainly is unexpected behavior. E.g. i >>commonly perform the following (sloppy) set of commands: [stuff deleted] >>expecting some error message like `dir is a directory' on subdirs and >>therefore leaving them alone and simply moving all regular files in >>dir to subdir. > >Did you have excessive contact with a DOS system recently? I heard you >have to put your right index finger into your left ear and stand on >your head to get even simple things done, like deleting or renaming >directories. > >Joachim I was a little startled myself at this feature. There are other UNIXes that will not allow a user to mv a directory. SCO UNIX and XENIX for example only allow users to rename - not move - directories. SCO provides a mvdir command (which can only be executed by root!), on the off chance someone *might* need to move a directory. Ah, well... Such were the UNIXes of the bygone era! :^) Snide comment added to force postnews to let me post: It seems like it was just yesterday: I way trying to decide between spending $1500 for a "full" copy of UNIX or accepting the archaic limitations of DOS/MS Windows... Today I have a full UNIX system in my home and have enough cash left over to buy a real hard drive. The best part is I never have to hear the words "Oh, that's only available as part of the XXX module"! -- "Plague and pestilence stalk the land like two huge stalking things!" - Black Adder III danh@teleport.com Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-0636 (1200/2400, N81) ------------------------------ From: brianc@fearless.saintjoe.EDU (Brian Capouch) Subject: Does any *human* know how NYS works? Date: Fri, 5 Nov 93 17:04:48 CST I'm trying as trying to get the NYS "yp" interface hacked into my linux box. I've gotten the code, and ypcat, etc. seem to work fine. However, I'm sure that somehow the login program must have to know about using the yp maps instead of the contents of the passwd and shadow files. Mail to the NYS developers has gone unanswered. No one knows for certain how to tap into the NYS developers' channel (at least, no one who I've contacted) and unless I can find some kind of documentation about how to use this stuff, it's not going to be of much use. There's essentially no documentation included with the distribution. I have version 11. I'd be much obliged for any pointers anyone out there could give me? Thanks. Brian Capouch Saint Joseph's College brianc@saintjoe.edu ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************