From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 14:28:25 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #121 Linux-Admin Digest #121, Volume #1 Fri, 22 Oct 93 14:28:25 EDT Contents: Re: UNIX sysadmin FAQ- proposal and volunt (Bert Medley) Re: Help with routing under Linux (Alex Liu) Re: Pb. with libc.so.4 file (or link) (Denis Endisch) Pb after installing SLS (Richard Migneron) Re: Emacs 19.19 installs (K. Shriram) Re: a lost+found magic! (Matthew Hannigan) Re: Linux/X/Motif (Richard Moore) NFS and ftpusers... (keith eric hellman) Using Linux as a X-Term (Michael Grabenstein) Q: Parking an SCSI Disk under Linux (ZYNGIER Marc) CNews question (Jim Nicholson) Re: Linux/X/Motif (Hal N. Brooks) Linux with 2 Ethernet Cards (Justin Botelle) Re: Puzzled by internet (Justin Botelle) [Q] libc-4.4.4 incompatible with X 1.2 static libs? (Hal N. Brooks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.admin.policy From: medley@sun44.synercom.hounix.org (Bert Medley) Subject: Re: UNIX sysadmin FAQ- proposal and volunt Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 14:11:54 GMT In article dtm@Ebay.Sun.COM (Duane T. Mun) writes: >"Ronald" == Ronald Hello writes: > >Ronald> In article 161b@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz, hamish@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz (Hamish Marson) writes: >rh>Rahul Dhesi (dhesi@rahul.net) wrote: >rh>> In <1993Oct18.064938.11806@leland.Stanford.EDU> >rh>> mosedale@aeffle.Stanford.EDU (Dan Mosedale) writes: >rh> >rh>> >- Mounting /var/spool/mail via NFS >rh>> > - why & why not >rh> >rh>> This is easy to write. >rh> >rh>> - Mounting /var/spool/mail via NFS >rh>> - don't >rh> >rh>But why not? Because of file locking? Sun recommend it... Or at least >rh>tell you how with SunOS.... >rh> >rh> > >Ronald> That's something I would like to know too. We do it here for >Ronald> years now without any problems. We have Sun and HP clients and >Ronald> Sun Servers and as I said: NO PROBLEMS. So what's this all >Ronald> about? > >The one big problem I see is if the users that are nfs mounting >/var/spool/mail have root access to their machine. They can add a new >user with a uid of another user (who is also nfs mounting the same >/var/spool/mail), and do what they like to their mail. > But if they have root access, why bother with the rigamarole? Just touch the mail. Don't you need root access to add a user? -- Bert Medley medley@synercom.hounix.org [work] bert@medley.ssdl.com [home] ------------------------------ From: aliu@aludra.usc.edu (Alex Liu) Subject: Re: Help with routing under Linux Date: 22 Oct 1993 02:57:24 -0700 torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes: >In article <2a6mdb$2mh@aludra.usc.edu>, Alex Liu wrote: >> 150.8.4.0 * UH 0 86 eth0 >> 198.187.207.0 * UH 0 6 eth1 >> localhost * UH 0 101 lo >Note the 'Flags' line: your route entries are all host routes (the 'H'), >even though they should be network routes (except for the localhost >route, which is correct). Do you have a /etc/networks file? Is it set >up correctly? Do you have libc.so.4.4.2 or newer? Following Linus' suggestions I went and checked my /etc/networks file as well as upgraded my libc to the current one (v4.4.4). So now my flags look correct. (They are N routes) >>Now, the fun part. When I try using "routed". The routes change to: >Not surprising. With a bogus routing table, things only get worse if >you run 'routed'. Well, now my routing table doesn't look bogus anymore, yet the results are identical. (Or at least as far as I tested). Basicaly, what it comes down to is the routes have flags "UN" for networks (Which is what it should be, I think) yet as soon as I start "routed", networking to other machines stops working. My routing table lists: 150.8.4.0 * UN 0 23 eth0 150.8.4.0 utx.unitrx.com UGN 0 0 eth0 Same for the other route. >Similarly for 198.187.207.0. And make sure to have a newer libc.so than >4.4.1, as 4.4.1 will mess up the first route, and you'll get the 'network >unreachable' errors. Yup, was using v4.4.1 and was indeed giving me 'network unreachable' errors some of the time. (Not always, perhaps, that is why I had the messed up routing table, allthough messed up routing or not I was still able to connect to other hosts) -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Alejandro Liu |EMail: aliu@usc.edu |All mispellings are intentional 424N Electric Ave. #C |Voice: 818-293-8696 |Anything mentioned here is not Alhambra,CA 91801 |Data: 818-293-XXXX |necessarily true. ------------------------------ From: dendisch@cat.physics.uwo.ca (Denis Endisch) Subject: Re: Pb. with libc.so.4 file (or link) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 12:37:02 GMT adopt@CAM.ORG (Richard Migneron) writes: > Anyhow, when I try to boot from the HD, it goes L then I then it >freezes. When I try from the floppy boot disk, it goes on pretty good >until almost to the end (it is very close to where the login prompt would >be) and finally says the following : > init: can't load library '/lib.so.4' > No such library > Now, I suspect that either the lib is not there or the link was >badly or not constructed. I tried to mount the partition from the A1.5 >disk to create the link myself (or correct it) but it didn't like any >of the 'mount -t ' commands with either e2fs linuxext or other type of >mount partition type. For a e2fs use: mount -t ext2 /dev/_your_hd_ /mnt Then you have to create the symbolic link in /mnt/lib: ln -s libc.so.4.4.2 lib.so.4 (The exact version # depends on that what comes with SLS) Now everything should work fine. Denis -- Denis Endisch Phone: (519) 661 - 2111x6413 Department of Physics Fax: (519) 661 - 2033 Univ. of Western Ontario email: dendisch@uwo.ca London, Ontario, Canada N6A 3K7 ------------------------------ From: adopt@CAM.ORG (Richard Migneron) Subject: Pb after installing SLS Date: 22 Oct 1993 08:34:09 -0400 Hello everyone, I'm having a problem after a full install of the latest tsx-11.mit.edu SLS release. If I try booting off the HD it gives the L and then the I and freezes. If I try booting off the FD it goes almost to the end (it would be with .99 pl9-1) and finally sends the following error message : init: can't load library /libc.so.4 No such library. Now the install goes great from start to finish. Now I found a /usr/lib/libc.so.1 file and copied the file to /usr/lib/libc.so.4. It did something for the Floppy boot, but it aint great, now I can't make out what it says. The HD boot procedure gives the same thing. Anybody knows about this ? Did I get SLS, while they where upgrading it and got mixed version floppies ? (Nothing anywhere points to that) Should I re-install for the 4th time ? I did install .99pl9-1 from SLS and didn't get that problem earlier this year, so I think I know a little bit what I'm doing. But now I'm confused. HELP... This has been dragging for a small while and I have to boot off my DOS floppy now. Thanks in advance, - Richard ------------------------------ From: shriram@cs.rice.edu (K. Shriram) Subject: Re: Emacs 19.19 installs Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 12:32:45 GMT lipka@lip.hanse.de (Michael Lipka) writes: > > I wrote: > > I used the following command-line for configure: > > i386-foo-linux --with-x11 --with-gcc > ^^^ > No... Foo? no. Say Linus or "Linus&net" and you'll get a much > better emacs :-) > (you have to escape the "&"...) What difference does this make? I've had no problems with the "foo" installation. Is the "Linus&net" flag built into the generic GNU distribution, or are you speaking of a specific port at some site? To wit, the etc/MACHINES file from prep says Intel 386 (i386-*-isc, i386-*-esix, i386-*-xenix, i386-*-linux, [...] In the above configurations, * means that the manufacturer's name you specify does not matter, and you can use any name you like (but it should not contain any dashes). as I'm sure you're aware. So what extras does "Linus&net" buy me? Also, are you sure you mean "Linus" and not "Linux"? ------------------------------ From: matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) Subject: Re: a lost+found magic! Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 08:09:20 GMT You should one lost+found directory in the top directory of every partition. Is this what you have? ------------------------------ From: moore@yellow.mmm.com (Richard Moore) Subject: Re: Linux/X/Motif Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 15:05:39 GMT dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID L. JOHNSON) writes: >In article , danw@hebron.connected.com (Dan Wilder) writes: >>etxias@mega.ericsson.se (Inge A. Suhr) writes: >> >>>Is there any Motif stuff available for Linux, if so, what and where ??? >>>Pointer to any descriptive summary of requirements is appreciated.... >> >>>Ciao // IASuhr >> >>Mail sales@metrolink.com, they have a port of 1.2 for Linux. Needs >>Xfree86 and maybe XS3, see the X faq for details, a suitable >>graphics card, tweaking, etc. >It does not require XS3. I'm using it quite happily with SLS-1.02/XFree-1.2 >on a graphics card which shall aremain nameless to avoid flames about not >dealing with a certain company (I bought it innocently!). >Rumor was that the Metolink install >>had a few warts, maybe they've made it slicker since the post. >I had absolutely no problems, beyond getting it customized the way I wanted >it. It ran fine right out of the box, and in my pinion is a great product. >I got it early on, as well. I don't know of any problems with installation. I just received and installed the motif here and thought the instructions where very good and easy to follow. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: keh5@ellis.uchicago.edu (keith eric hellman) Subject: NFS and ftpusers... Reply-To: keh5@midway.uchicago.edu Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 15:30:22 GMT Hello all! Well things are pretty much great: Linux 0.99.13, libs 4.4.4, Xfree 1.2, Networking, its all fallen together quite gracefully... THANKS to everyone who has made it possible. Now if I could just take care of these last few problems, I could get back to my research: 1 I can't access NFS mounts. I have no problem mounting the directory, but when I look inside, nothing is there; I also can't cat to a file in the directory (I get a permissions error). I have read TCP/IP Net. Admin. and man pages on both my Linux and the server's SUN. Nowhere is it mentioned how to mount a remote directory into a local users directory, WITH read-write permissions for the local user. Does the local user have to have the same UID as his account on the server? If anyone can point to docs, I would appreciate it. 2 Actually this is just a question: _TCP/IP_N_A_ mentions the biod, lockd, and statd daemons that run on the client machines. I can't find them. My rc.inet2 just mounts all the nfs filesystems as its first order of business. What's UP? Once again a pointer to docs would be a great help. 3 A distinct problem with ftp: It doesn't seem to look in the file /etc/ftpusers to find out who CAN'T ftp. Isn't this what it's supposed to do? I would like to setup anonymous ftp but not until I get my regular ftp working alright. Let's see.....YUP, thats it. As I have mentioned before, docs are most appreciated (or pointers to); E-Mail is fine, but I also try to keep up with the newsgroups. keifer keith@cathi1.bsd.uchicago.edu _________________________________________________________________________ o__. o___. | /* Only the .;____V\. TKD V\_. | best code . o|/ '--^ & ,----^/ .___o___. | is spewed |/V/ DISC ' V_____, | after 1AM */ | in DAY ~~ \/` |------------------------ .| | #include ========================================================================= "As an adolescent I aspired to lasting fame. I craved factual certainty, and I thirsted for a meaningful vision of human life - so I became a Scientist. This is like becoming an Archbishop so you can meet girls." Matt Cartwill ------------------------------ From: mikeg@endgame.gsfc.nasa.gov (Michael Grabenstein) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Using Linux as a X-Term Date: 22 Oct 1993 15:39:55 GMT I am as of yet unfamilar with linux (other than I know what it is). I have heard of people running X on it, but no real opinions about how it worked. What I am looking into is making a portable X-Term, by buying a 486 laptop installing Linux and X-Windows on it, then connecting it to the Ethernet. Does this sound at all possible? What I need to know if it is, is: 1) what size HD to get? (Are there any problems with various HDs?) 2) Are there any problems with network interface cards? 3) What would be the preformance of such a creature? 4) Is there a NFS for Linux? 5) I know of one place that sells laptops with the nice palm rests, are there any other companies that have integrated the palm rests into the design? (Palm rests like the Mac Powerbooks.) Please respond to my e-mail. Sorry if this is not the appropriate newsgroup for this, please be kind and direct me to the appropriate news- group if needed. TIA, Mike mikeg@asylum.gsfc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ From: zyngier@amertume.ufr-info-p7.ibp.fr (ZYNGIER Marc) Subject: Q: Parking an SCSI Disk under Linux Date: 22 Oct 1993 15:52:50 GMT Hi everyone here. Does someone know where I can get an utility that could park my scsi disk (I use an Adaptec 1542C) ? Thanks for all, and feel free to Email. -- =============================================================================== Some people think you've got to live your life one way, | Marc ZYNGIER I disagree. | (Captain Cavern) I'm not gonna pay attention to them anyway, | It's got nothing, nothing to do with me. |zyngier@amertume Life is so short, we got no time to waste at all. | .ufr-info-p7 I only wanna ride. | .ibp.fr Get on my bike and ride. | J. S. | Email's welcome =============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: jnicholson@bowker.com (Jim Nicholson) Subject: CNews question Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 11:25:56 EDT I've got CNews loaded on my system from SLS 1.02. Whenever I use the newsrun script, I get relaynews: recursive loop setting permissions (Bad File Number) (Sometimes it's not "setting permissions", but it's always the same. I can force the error if I run setnewsids. After this, if I check /usr/spool/news/in.coming, al the .Z files are changed to .Z.t. Question: What is it trying to do, specifically? I know that setnewsids is trying to setuid root so that it can play with the file permissions, but _which_ files is it looking for? Also, can someone point me to the source for cnews and the linux diffs? [Sorry to post this here, but I don't have access to news.*] - Jim Jim Nicholson Internet: jnicholson@bowker.com Manager, Technical Support CompuServe: 73370,44 Reed Reference Electronic Publishing Voice : 908-665-2864 121 Chanlon Rd 800-323-3288 (North America) New Providence, NJ 07205 ------------------------------ From: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks) Subject: Re: Linux/X/Motif Date: 22 Oct 1993 17:18:35 GMT Reply-To: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks) In article moore@yellow.mmm.com (Richard Moore) writes: >dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID L. JOHNSON) writes: > >>In article , danw@hebron.connected.com (Dan Wilder) writes: >>>etxias@mega.ericsson.se (Inge A. Suhr) writes: >>> >>>>Is there any Motif stuff available for Linux, if so, what and where ??? >>>>Pointer to any descriptive summary of requirements is appreciated.... >>> >>>>Ciao // IASuhr >>> >>>Mail sales@metrolink.com, they have a port of 1.2 for Linux. Needs >>>Xfree86 and maybe XS3, see the X faq for details, a suitable >>>graphics card, tweaking, etc. > >>It does not require XS3. I'm using it quite happily with SLS-1.02/XFree-1.2 >>on a graphics card which shall aremain nameless to avoid flames about not >>dealing with a certain company (I bought it innocently!). > >>Rumor was that the Metolink install >>>had a few warts, maybe they've made it slicker since the post. > >>I had absolutely no problems, beyond getting it customized the way I wanted >>it. It ran fine right out of the box, and in my pinion is a great product. >>I got it early on, as well. I don't know of any problems with installation. > > >I just received and installed the motif here and thought the instructions >where very good and easy to follow. > Yes, it's easy to install, BUT ... I've got one glaring problem. Entering text requires vast amounts of CPU power. On my 386-33, xsysinfo shows the cpu load shooting to the sky whenever text is typed into a Motif application. As a result, it's roughly equivalent to using a 300 baud modem. I'd really love to get this problem resolved, because otherwise it's a fine product. I heard this complaint recently from another poster, but I've lost his address and he didn't respond to my reply. I'd love to hear other people's experience with this. David Johnson has told me that his 486-?? performs OK, but he's not yet checked the system load in this situation. ====================================================================== Hal N. Brooks Voice: (706) 546-7792 Internet: hal@cs.uga.edu ====================================================================== ------------------------------ From: botelle@jrb3.xrt.upenn.edu (Justin Botelle) Subject: Linux with 2 Ethernet Cards Date: 22 Oct 93 16:52:34 GMT Will Linux support 2 Ethernet Cards in the same machine? Will it route between the two nets the cards are attached to? Will it accomplish this without hacking and recompiling the kernel? Justin Botelle botelle@jrb3.xrt.upenn.edu standard disclaimers apply __ ------------------------------ From: botelle@jrb3.xrt.upenn.edu (Justin Botelle) Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: Re: Puzzled by internet Date: 22 Oct 93 16:41:49 GMT In article <1993Oct19.025412.16497@ksmith.com> keith@ksmith.com (Keith Smith) writes: >From: keith@ksmith.com (Keith Smith) >Subject: Re: Puzzled by internet >Date: 19 Oct 93 02:54:12 GMT >Don't bother calling your local telco, they don't know shit): You just have to talk to the right person. You don't just dial the operator, and say "How do I connect to the internet?" Asking for the "corporate" number is usually the first step. If you think the local telco is bad, try calling AT&T, Sprint, or MCI without a contact and try to get the right person to speak to about T1s, etc.... >Keith Smith keith@ksmith.com 5719 Archer Rd. >Digital Designs BBS 1-919-423-4216 Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201 >Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ... Justin Botelle botelle@jrb3.xrt.upenn.edu standard disclaimers apply __ ------------------------------ From: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks) Subject: [Q] libc-4.4.4 incompatible with X 1.2 static libs? Date: 22 Oct 1993 17:32:20 GMT Reply-To: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu I made a quantum jump yesterday from gcc-2.3.3, libc-4.3.3, and 0.99pl9 to gcc-2.4.5, libc-4.4.4, and ALPHA-0.99pl13h. I still haven't upgraded from XFree86 1.2 to 1.3, but with 2.0 around the corner it seemed like a waste. About the only problem I'm having is that when I link an X application statically I get a segmentation fault as soon as I try to run it. The same application runs fine when using shared libraries. I installed the libc image, include, and extras; the required ld.so, and the newest binutils. Does anyone know if I've got to upgrade to XFree86 1.3? Other suggestions as to what the problem might be would also be appreciated. ====================================================================== Hal N. Brooks Voice: (706) 546-7792 Internet: hal@cs.uga.edu ====================================================================== ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************