Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #178 From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 23:13:07 EDT Linux-Activists Digest #178, Volume #6 Fri, 27 Aug 93 23:13:07 EDT Contents: Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius (Kevin S Ho) Linux history wanted (Iris Gaber) * Help on SLS installation (slzw0@cc.usu.edu) Problems with PAS-16 (Frank Westheider) Problem with floppies on WD7000FASST (Frank Westheider) anonymous ftp 0.99pl11 net2 (mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu) Which non-scsi tapes work (John Will) Linux on disk/tape $45 (Stephen Balbach) Re: anonymous ftp 0.99pl11 net2 (Mark_Bramwell) Re: /dev/tty (Whatis it for?) (Bob Cruder) Re: Memory leak with 100ns simms? (Andrew R. Tefft) Driver yet for Adaptec 1522? (Mike Hollyman) Re: SCSI Performance (Yet (Bill Henning) [TAPE] Sankyo / Archive / Summit (dan@oea.hobby.nl) Linux as SLIP host? (Steve Birnbaum) SUMMARY: ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVES FOR PC-NFS BESIDES SUN'S OFFERING (Brian Buhrow) Re: lpr cannot connect to lpd - Slackware 1.01 (Robert Bauer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ksh@prl.ufl.edu (Kevin S Ho) Subject: Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius Date: 27 Aug 1993 20:51:39 GMT In article <1993Aug27.121532.19134@news.mentorg.com>, stuartj@wv.mentorg.com (Stuart John) writes: |> I took some artistic license with editing... |> |> In article , trucken@exa.cs.umn.edu (David Truckenmiller) writes: |> |> In jkowalik@gandalf (Yarek Kowalik / LGS) writes: |> |> >ksh@prl.ufl.edu (Kevin S Ho) writes: |> |> >: In article , trucken@milli.cs.umn.edu (David Truckenmiller) writes: |> |> >be done. Like, why not teach some of the jargon to kids, so when they grow up |> |> >it would become an integrated in their language (if it is not already) and |> |> >understood that a hard disk is not a floppy in a hard case. |> |> |> |> Well, I think that kids already know more than we suspect. :-) |> |> The current generation certainly know "Sonic", "Nintendo" and "CD-ROM", |> but seem to missing out on home micros and the joys of programming in |> BASIC :-), like when I had a CBM64 and BBC. Well, I can do basic, but I'd rather do C, and do Linux boxen count as "home computers"? C-u 100 :-) [mindless munching] KsH ------------------------------ From: gaber@taurus.math.tau.ac.il (Iris Gaber) Subject: Linux history wanted Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 20:36:50 GMT Hi I teach a UNIX course in a programming school. I've chosen linux as my platform, and would like some background on the system (history & evolution). I would greatly appreciate pointers to sources of relevant information, preferably via email. thanx in advance Iris Gaber ------------------------------ From: slzw0@cc.usu.edu Subject: * Help on SLS installation Date: 27 Aug 93 14:25:19 MDT I recently installed Linux to my system (a1-a4) and tried to boot from the boot disk from the newly created boot disk by the installation but didn't work and showed following message: Partition Check: hda:hda1,had2 EXT2-fs warning:mounting uncheked file system runing e2fsck is recommended [EXT II FS 0.3c, 93/08/05, bs=1023, fs=1024, gc=18, bpg=8192, ipg=1984] VFS: Mounted root (ex2 file system) (after this system just sit down and didn't do anyting) ========= Also, there were some other problems during installation such as, sed: unable allocate memory, virtual memory is exceeded 'new' BTW, Could you foresee any siginficant common trouble we will encounter later on? Please let me know it now. I would appreciate it if anyone could help me to solve these problems. Thank you again. ------------------------------ From: higgins@rom.uni-paderborn.de (Frank Westheider) Subject: Problems with PAS-16 Date: 28 Aug 1993 00:05:22 +0200 Hi Folks ! I've a friend with a PAS-16-audio-card and a 486-50 PC, and everything works fine, but starting various animations under X together with sound-playing, the sound stops from time to time for half a second or so. Where's the problem ?? Before he had a Soundblaster 8-bit Card, and the same things worked without problems or stoppings ! Ciao Higgins ------------------------------ From: higgins@rom.uni-paderborn.de (Frank Westheider) Subject: Problem with floppies on WD7000FASST Date: 28 Aug 1993 00:07:36 +0200 Hi out there ! I have a WD7000-FASST Controller on Linux and everything works fine until i use heavy floppy activity. Then sometimes the machine just hangs. Is this a known Problem with the WD7000 ?? Ciao Higgins ------------------------------ From: mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu Subject: anonymous ftp 0.99pl11 net2 Date: 27 Aug 1993 18:37:04 -0400 Reply-To: mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu Hello...I'm using 0.99p11 and I've set up the appropriate ftp subdirectories and permissions as per the man pages. Now I have a few questions: 1) when I log into the ftp server using ncsa's ftp program, I don't get any login information other than the standard login, password prompts. Where do I tell linux to issue a welcome message when somebody uses anonymous ftp? 2) I have moved ls into the /home/ftp/bin subdirectory as per the man page, but when I issue a 'dir' command from the remote ftp client, I get the following message: /bin/ls: can't load library '/lib/libc.so.4' No such library. Transferred 65 bytes in 0 seconds(0.063 Kbytes/sec) 226 Transfer complete. I tried installing links to libc.so.4 in /home/ftp/bin, but that didn't work and the permission for the links in /lib are set to 777... what am I doing wrong? Thanks! Stu ------------------------------ From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) Subject: Which non-scsi tapes work Date: 27 Aug 93 15:15:00 GMT UW>I am looking to buy a non-scsi tape for my linux pc. Which tapes are UW>supported and work? Please add some details if you are a knowlegable UW>person in this area. Thanks, I use a Wangtek 5150 & it's QIC-02 dedicated controller, works like a champ. You can find them used, frequently for $150-200 in the for-sale conferences, and they'll handle 250mb tapes (DC6250) without a wimper. ------------------------------ From: stephen@clarknet.clark.net (Stephen Balbach) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Linux on disk/tape $45 Date: 27 Aug 1993 19:59:45 -0400 Linux SLS or Slackware Linux is a 32-bit multi-tasking UNIX OS for the PC. It is free and all source can be obtained. Choose either the SLS or Slackware package. 5.25" disks: $1.50/ea. 3.5" disks: $2.00/ea. o SLS Package (Linux version 0.99p12, SLS version 1.03 most recent update) Full Set includes disks: A1-A4,B1-B7,C1-C3,D1-D2,S1,T1-T3,X1-X10 Full set 5.25" 31 disks $45 Full set 3.5" 31 disks $60 Full set DOS QIC-40 tape $40 o Slackware Package (Linux version 0.99p12, Slackware version 1.01) Full set includes disks: A1-A13,X1-X11 Full set 3.5" 25 disks $50 (must be boot drive) Full set DOS QIC-40 tape $40 TeX (from SLS) 3 disks $6 o "Linux Installation and Getting Started", Matt Welsh 150 pg. laser printed PostScript manual. Focus on SLS installation, excellent new user guide. $15 if ordering a set $20 alone o SLS and Slackware on 2 (two) QIC-40 tapes $65 All releases include all up to date FAQ's, META-FAQ, INFOSHEET and other documentation covering Linux. Linux is freely available on the Internet and on many BBS's. You may FTP Linux from TSX-11.MIT.EDU WARRANTY: Files or disks damaged during shipment will be replaced. This offer does not include support from me, Slackware or SLS (although SLS will provide support for a fee). Please ask for a hardware compatibility sheet if you have questions regarding your particular set up. TERMS: Check (5-day hold), money-order, cashier check, bank wire. Made payable to Stephen Balbach CONTACT: Stephen Balbach 5437 Enberend Terrace Columbia, MD 21045 (410) 740-1157 stephen@clark.net -- Stephen Balbach . Clark Internet Services . Washington D.C./Balt. metro area . mail info@clark.net . FAX 410-730-9765 . Corp. accounts . Linux on Disk . 31 disks $45 . stephen@clark.net . voice 410-740-1157 ------------------------------ From: MARK@ardsley.business.uwo.ca (Mark_Bramwell) Subject: Re: anonymous ftp 0.99pl11 net2 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 00:36:10 GMT In article <25m2ag$a86@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu writes: >From: mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu >Subject: anonymous ftp 0.99pl11 net2 >Date: 27 Aug 1993 18:37:04 -0400 >Hello...I'm using 0.99p11 and I've set up the appropriate ftp subdirectories >and permissions as per the man pages. Now I have a few questions: >1) when I log into the ftp server using ncsa's ftp program, I don't get >any login information other than the standard login, password prompts. >Where do I tell linux to issue a welcome message when somebody uses >anonymous ftp? >2) I have moved ls into the /home/ftp/bin subdirectory as per the man >page, but when I issue a 'dir' command from the remote ftp client, I >get the following message: >/bin/ls: can't load library '/lib/libc.so.4' > No such library. >Transferred 65 bytes in 0 seconds(0.063 Kbytes/sec) >226 Transfer complete. >I tried installing links to libc.so.4 in /home/ftp/bin, but that didn't work >and the permission for the links in /lib are set to 777... >what am I doing wrong? >Thanks! >Stu I setup the ftp lastnight. /home/ftp becomes the root directory. Therefore find where lib lives in the real system, and copy the file there in the /home/ftp area. ie: /home/ftp/lib/libc.so.4 No special permissions were required, although I made everything read only except for pub. Remember, the ftp server sees /home/ftp as / If something wanted /bin/xxx, it is actually looking in /home/ftp/bin/xxx =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Mark Bramwell, VE3PZR Located in sunny London, Ontario Internet: Mark@ARDSLEY.business.uwo.ca IP Address: 129.100.22.33 Packet: VE3PZR @ VE3GYQ UWO Phone: (519) 661-3714 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux From: bcruder@csn.org (Bob Cruder) Subject: Re: /dev/tty (Whatis it for?) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 00:34:10 GMT Oliver Paulzen (paulzen@salyko.cube.net) wrote: : C.W. Southern (cws9669@ultb.isc.rit.edu) schrieb: : > I am having a program with serial logins on my machine. I am running SLS : > 1.03. I have a good connection between the two, and when I try to connect : > the to together it will get as far as the Password: prompt then stop. So I : > ran strace on getty and found for some reason that the login program switches : > ttys from /dev/ttys2 (COM3) to /dev/tty. When this file is removed the login : > process continues as normal. But this file (/dev/tty) is required when loading : > xterm up under X-windows. I have a few questions. What is the reason for this : > file (/dev/tty)? The only way that I can find around it is to patch login : > program, is there another? I haven't examined the Linux internals in sufficient detail but found /dev/tty used in SVR3. There, /dev/tty is simply an alias for the com device into which one has logged. Even if one has redirected stdin and stdout, a program can access /dev/tty and be able to send output to or get input from the user screen. If a program needs to use io control instructions to turn off echo for password entry or to set raw mode for an editor, it need only point to /dev/tty. Problem is, some programs are able to open either the original tty or /dev/tty in an exclusive mode which makes programs fail when they attempt a reopen via the other name. On SVR3 it only affects my console, occurs only after a reboot and goes away after the system has been running for a while. Perhaps a kernel hacker in the audience can tell us where the semaphore is that locks each tty device. Bob Cruder - bcruder@miaco.com ------------------------------ From: teffta@cs690-3.erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft) Subject: Re: Memory leak with 100ns simms? Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 01:19:28 GMT I think he (like so many people) is not realizing that the "used" column = "really-used" + "buffers", and that the buffer space will mostly be freed as processes need it. If it were up to me, I would have the free column represent "unused" + "buffers that can be reclaimed" (is there a fixed minimum which will always be allocated for buffers?) and stop all this confusion once and for all (although it is interesting to watch that free number once in a while to see if it ever really gets to 0). ------------------------------ From: mikeh@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Hollyman) Subject: Driver yet for Adaptec 1522? Date: 28 Aug 1993 02:05:07 GMT That's my big question. Is there a driver out yet for the 1522? BSD386 doesn't plan on spending any time making one so I was hoping Linux would be a solution. Thanks Mike -- I looked over Jordan, and what did I see? I saw a US Marine in a pile of debris Roger Waters- Amused to Death Mike Hollyman - University of Illinois - mikeh@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu ------------------------------ From: bhenning@vanbc.wimsey.com (Bill Henning) Subject: Re: SCSI Performance (Yet Date: 27 Aug 1993 19:08:02 -0700 In article <1993Aug27.155835.29467@bmerh85.bnr.ca> mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord) writes: >IDE drives are also capable of using DMA, and also feature a "multiple mode" >for moving several sectors to/from the drive in a single operation. Are you talking about slave mode DMA using the AT chipset DMA channels? I assume you are... it would be nice to get a driver that used that capability. >The linux device driver currently does not seem to utilize either feature, >but with enough of us looking and poking about, it shouldn't be too long >before it does. Then IDE drives will *really* fly, and with greatly reduced >kernel overhead, too. Now I'd really like that... My WD Caviar (170 and 340) drives are quite fast enough now, but I'd love to see scatter-gather & DMA support in the drivers. Bill ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: dan@oea.hobby.nl Subject: [TAPE] Sankyo / Archive / Summit Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 20:31:45 GMT OK. It seems that the technical problems encountered by the group trying to develop a driver for FDC based tape streamers are unsurmountable, for the moment at least, so I'm looking elsewhere for a backup system. During my search I came across the following (affordable?) solutions: - SCSI based Sankyo tapestreamer for about $450. 250 MB capacity. - SCSI based Archive "" for about $600. 525 MB capacity. (includes an Adaptec SCSI controller, which I don't need). - IDE based Summit tapestreamer for about $350. 300 MB capacity. has anyone used these gizmos (un)successfully with LINUX? -- |< Dan Naas dan@oea.hobby.nl >| +---------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: aa229@freenet.carleton.ca (Steve Birnbaum) Subject: Linux as SLIP host? Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 22:21:59 GMT I've been told that Linux can call as a SLIP client but as yet cannot act as a server. Is this true? I'm not on the Internet but would like to allow users to SLIP onto my machine but have been told it's not yet possible. If it's not, does anyone have an idea when? thanks... Steve ------------------------------ From: buhrow@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Buhrow) Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.misc Subject: SUMMARY: ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVES FOR PC-NFS BESIDES SUN'S OFFERING Date: 28 Aug 1993 02:55:35 GMT Here is my original question. > I was recently asked to evaluate the various ways of connecting a >collection of IBM compatibles together. We can use Novell, but I was also >considering using a Unix nfs file server with PC-NFS clients running on the >pc's. Would this scenario provide the same functionality with respect to >file access as a Novell server? That is, can you make the network drive >look like a local drive to the pc (g:, etc.)? > What about MS-DOS nfs clients? Are there nfs client programs out >there besides Sun's PC-NFS which, at last check, ran for $250.00, or there >abouts, a station? > Please e-mail any responses to: buhrow@cats.ucsc.edu as I don't have >time to read all of these groups. >Thank you very much in advance for any light anyone can shed on these >questions. > If interest develops from others, I'll summarize the results. >-Brian First, thank you everyone for your responses. They were helpful and were able to get me on the road to a more speedy solution. As you will see from the comments below, there are other things for PC/TCP/IP than Sun's PCNFS. Most attractive seems to be Beam & Whiteside's package which, if you are a largish sight, might be cheaper because of their bulk rate discount. The Wat package also seems to be quite good, except that it doesn't do NFS. FTP software also offers a good package, and, for an extra fee, they do offer NFS. The most useful piece of information was, by far, the pointer to comp.protocols.network, where, there was an entire FAQ addressing this very subject. If you cannot find it in the news archives, mail me and I will send you a copy. Thank you again for your help and I hope that this summary is useful. Note that the comments below are unaltered (except for deletion of some lines) and are in no particular order. If you requested a copy of this response via private electronic mail, then it is en route. -Brian ======== From: vanepp@sfu.ca Myself I would have a strong look at Novell (especially if these are only PCs and not Unix boxes as well). The Novell clients and servers are designed to run on PCs, not Unix semantics molded to fit DOS. The Novell stuff can run on old machines (such as XTs) that would have trouble supporting PC-NFS. We have converted from a mainframe to Unix around two years ago, and run something like 21 Novell servers around campus (there are around 2000 machines about half and half Macs and PCs out there). Much of our Unix printing goes via lpr to a Novell server that then spools it to one of 6 HP3si laser printers spread around campus. The current growth industry in our machine room is not the Auspex NFS file server (at some 24 gigs) but rather a Netframe running Novell that is currently at 5 or 6 gigs, and is going to jump to 10 or 15 gigs over the next year or so. We thought about exporting the Auspex file systems out over the backbone, but performance and security concerns stopped us. It looks like the customers are voting with their money for Novell, and we are lagging along behind. Peter Van Epp / Operations and Technical Support Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada From: qramaj@eras70.ericsson.se (Magnus Johansson AR/BH Sommar Praktikant 72725 ) Hello! I've been evaluating Sun's PC-NFS (version 4 and 5) for the last couple of weeks here at Ericsson Radio System. The result is that it do work, but you might want to check out other possibilites. With PC-NFS installed you can use network connected printers / harddrivers without any problems at all. The harddisks are used just like a local one, ie d: etc. And the same goes for the printers. The installation is quite straight forward. The software is windowised (except the installationprogramm), and it makes it quite easy to use. I hope that this gives you some kind of usefull information regarding PC-NFS. Please do *not* reply because this is my last day here (going back to school...)! Med vdnliga hdlsningar Magnus Johansson, KTH - Electronic Engineer From: wjustice@pms860.pms.ford.com (Bill Justice) Yes!!!! I have done this at a number of places of work. Personally, I have used SUN's PC-NFS, and FTP's, and even as we speak I am looking at Novels LanWorkPlace(LWP). I have heard bad things about WallenGongs (a year ago), I can not think of any others off hand, but I know there are many! I think this is the may to go, especially if you already have UNIX around to act as servers. (Personally, I would not by into a single vendor (NOVEL) when you can by into a standard that many companies are following) Just something to think about. -- Thanks, William J. Justice (all above is opinion only) justice@frith.egr.msu.edu wjustice@pms860.pms.ford.com From: Alan Cox Tons and tons is the quick answer: Beame & Whiteside, Chameleon (under Windows only - we use this), PC/TCP etc... ALan From: morrow@cns.ucalgary.ca (Bill Morrow) We are happy with Beame&Whiteside NFS, it's about $CDN 125 in quantity, and does everything that you mention above, plus telnet, ftp, and so on. -- Bill Morrow Clinical Neurosciences, University of Calgary e-mail: morrow@cns.ucalgary.ca voice: (403) 220-6275 fax: (403) 283-8770 HMRB 105, 3330 Hospital Drive NW Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2N 4N1 From: af8t@aixfile1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Markus Nullmeier) In article <23sfj6INN2ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> you wrote: Just dive into the newsgroups comp.protocols.nfs (sounds strange, but...) and comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc :-) -- --------------------------------------------------- Markus Nullmeier af8t@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de From: ianst@qdpii.ind.dpi.qld.gov.au (Ian Staples) We use PC-NFS with a 486 server running SCO-Unix. Yes, network drives can be made to look like a local drive. It's also simple for individual users to set up their network directories as local drives, which saves a lot of typing :-) E.g. g: rather than f:\usr\fred\me\ The only problem I've had has been in renaming network directories from DOS. The various utilities/commands that do this seem to create a Unix- style link, so you end up with two apparent directories (old and new) but only one copy of the files. When you try to undo the problem (e.g. by "removing" one of the directories [which means deleting the contents first of course]) you end up with *no* files in the remaining dir :-( You can usually get around these problems by logging on to the server in Unix and doing any necessary directory maintenance from there (i.e. using the Unix mv command to make the new directory from the old structure). The normal DOS md, rd, cd, commands work OK; the only problem is in attempting to *rename* directories. Cheers, Ian S. -- Ian Staples Email : ianst@qdpii.ind.dpi.qld.gov.au c/- P.O. Box 1054 MAREEBA Phone : +61 (0)70 921 555 Home 924 847 Queensland Australia 4880 Fax : +61 (0)70 923 593 " " " From: miguel@roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza) Currently, we use Wollowong's Pathway package, you need to packages: Access (this is the TCP/IP) and the extra NFS package. I don't remember how much they cost, but it's a low cost. They also sell the software for the Mac and the Vaxes with VMS so you can use NFS in all your machines! Well, personally I like Wollongong's software, it works with the drivers of clarkson, has SLIP support, remote printing, file sharing, and it's easy to install. It ocuppies about 20-25k of RAM with all options enabled. Hope it works, Miguel. From: Ivo Jossart Maybe if you have enough money you could think about banyan vines. It's very easy to maintain, but it costs $$$$$. Or you can try to use lantastic or the very cheap little big-lan. (only 99$ for one network) I hope this may help. regards. From: SEHepner%staff%MC@athena.manchester.edu Assuming that I understand what you were asking for, Fou might look into Banyan VINES. It is a good stable system (it is based on Berkley UNIX and is more stable than Novel) that is fairly cheap. My site is sunning on a VINES network and we are quite pleased with it. You also can have it running on a SCO UNIX platform. If you have any questions/requirements let me know (I didnt see your original net posting). ============================================================================ Stephen Hepner | SEHepner%Staff%MC@athena.manchester.edu Manchester College | shepner@nyx.cs.du.edu Computer Technician/Analyst | (219)982-5079 Nothing is impossible, it just seems that way ============================================================================ From: poc@shaddam.usb.ve (Patrick O'Callaghan) Take a look at FTP Software. Their PC/TCP package includes Interdrive, an NFS client *and server* for DOS and/or Windows. From: combssf@salem.ge.com (Stephen F. Combs) Brian, Here at GE Drives we use Sun's PC-NFS (co-existing with 3COM 3+Share), and FTP Software's FTP-TCPIP package w/nfs support. Also available is Beam & Whiteside's TCP/IP-NFS package (I don't know what the product name is) which we have used on a couple of machines (again co-existing with 3com) The FTP product we use is version 2.2 and runs on top of Novell's IPX (dual protocol stacks, Novell apps talk IPX while FTP apps talk TCP/IP) Thanx, Stephen F. Combs The General Electric Co GE Industrial Systems & Services Network Services 1501 Roanoke Blvd Salem, VA 24153 Internet: CombsSF@salem.ge.com voice: 703.387.8828 ------------------------------ From: rbauer@ecst.csuchico.edu (Robert Bauer) Subject: Re: lpr cannot connect to lpd - Slackware 1.01 Date: 28 Aug 1993 03:02:52 GMT In article <1993Aug26.152232.27906@train.ufh.ac.za> bhv@cs.ufh.ac.za writes: >bhv@cycad.ufh.ac.za wrote: >: I've recently installed Slackware 1.01 and wish to print remotely >: via TCP/IP. I've read the FAQ and done everything, but I still >: do not get lpr to connect with lpd. Furthermore, when I re-start I had a very similar problem, except that lpr worked fine when I was the root user. I first suspected a problem with permissions, however after setting those up according to the LPR FAQ, lpr still would not work for anyone but root. A little poking around in the /etc and /usr/bin files revealed that there were two different copies of lpr. The copy which worked resided in /etc, the other in /usr/bin. I don't know if there was a reason for having the two copies, but I after I moved the "good" lpr from /etc into /usr/bin (in the path of normal users) the print spooling system worked as it should. >and recompiled it, after which lpr/lpd works. So what's up with Slackware :-? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is having two (different) copies of lpr an oversight, or is there some (subtle) reason for this? -Robert rbauer@ecst.csuchico.edu ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************