From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 16:13:10 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #164 Linux-Activists Digest #164, Volume #6 Tue, 24 Aug 93 16:13:10 EDT Contents: TCP/IP support for INTEL cards? (Steve Mcgee) more testing (Richnut) HELP, Linux mounts fs and goes to sleep! (Rikhardur Egilsson) re: when is linux 1.0 coming out ? Re: SCSI Performance (Yet Again) (Howlin' Bob) Re: SCSI Performance (Yet Again) (Howlin' Bob) Re: Modem XTERM emulation? (Jochum Hintze) Re: libc-4.4.2, where is it ? (Mark Buckaway) Re: Boot manager (Keith Barrett) Xfree 1.3 on ATI Ultra XLR (Dr. Raimund K. Ege) Dummy IRQ questions (WRT 3c503 ether cards) (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) Linux (not X) with Viper (Michael M Wanggaard) Developing an Operating System (John McCoy) Help! Need a string! (guest@hpacv.com) login shell-init permission problem (Gert van der Zwan) Re: Help! Need a string! (Ahmon Dancy) used hardware ? (Mike Bone) Mounting a HardcardXLII (John Seung) PS/2s are not all microchannel!! Does Linux work on these? (Sohar Inc.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: smcgee@nmsu.edu (Steve Mcgee) Subject: TCP/IP support for INTEL cards? Date: 24 Aug 1993 14:48:03 GMT Is any kind soul working on TCP/IP for INTEL cards? *************************************************************************** * Steve McGee "Models are like sausages. People like them a * * smcgee@psl.nmsu.edu lot more before they know what goes into them." * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: ran59961@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richnut) Subject: more testing Date: 24 Aug 1993 15:28:21 GMT hmm ------------------------------ From: rikardur@rhi.hi.is (Rikhardur Egilsson) Subject: HELP, Linux mounts fs and goes to sleep! Date: 24 Aug 93 12:42:21 GMT Now here's a problem: I have tvo hard disks in my system disk1 is a 245Mb and is used for DOS/Windows disk2 is 125Mb and is used for (you guessed it) Linux. I boot Linux from a floppy. I don't know exacly what happened but it is eather me changing some configuration or it's when I borrowed a CD and installed it. It insisted on beeing called 'disk D' (in DOS of course, I never booted Linux while the CD was installed) the next time I booted Linux I got (when it was about to mount /dev/hdb1): HD controller timeout (well I know for sure that this msg is NOT due to HD controller reset me, changing some configuration :) HD controller timeout HD controller reset ... ... ... I booted from the A0 disk and ran 'e2fsck /dev/hdb1' without a single warning message. I mounted the disk under /mnt and everything seemed OK. I placede a line in the beginning (after #!/bin/sh) of the /etc/rc file saying: echo 'Starting rc' > /dev/console but the text never appears on the startup screen :( So it seems that it never gets to run the /etc/rc file. When I now boot linux from a floppy as I have always done it mounts /dev/hdb1 and then goes to sleep (appears to). if I type something on the keyboard it appears on the screen. And I can reset with C-A-del without a prob (without a message also). The last lines of the text that appear if I boot from floppy are: EXT2 warning mounting unchecked file system .... [EXT II FS 0.3 93/04/22, bs=1024, fs=1024, gc=14, bpg=8192, ipg=2000] VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) Linux version 0.99.pl9-1 (root@softland) 04/27/93 00:02:59 Does anybody know what Linux is trying to do after it mounts the file system ? I could of course just reinstall Linux but I figure I will propably learn more from reading the replies and fixing it myself (don't you just love this place?) :) ______________________________________________________________ | Rikhardur Egilsson | | rikardur@rhi.hi.is | | TF3RET | |______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 17:37:51 CDT From: Subject: re: when is linux 1.0 coming out ? Oh yeah, and Linux 10.0 will be running 10 times as fast as Linux 1.0 btw, do you think linux1.0, if there ever is one, will be bugfree ? (just look at sunos5.x) if you want version 1.0, simply patch tools/version.h /herp , not a number freak. ------------------------------ From: gt8134b@prism.gatech.EDU (Howlin' Bob) Subject: Re: SCSI Performance (Yet Again) Date: 24 Aug 93 16:03:43 GMT muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) writes: > JH> Again, on my ST, there was a program that bypassed the > JH> filesystem completely to test raw disk i/o, and somehow they >Should not be hard to write. Something like > buf=malloc(16*1024*1024); > fd=open("/dev/hda",O_RDWR); Nope. All block devices under Linux are buffered. -- Robert Sanders Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt8134b Internet: gt8134b@prism.gatech.edu ------------------------------ From: gt8134b@prism.gatech.EDU (Howlin' Bob) Subject: Re: SCSI Performance (Yet Again) Date: 24 Aug 93 16:05:50 GMT bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >/dev/hda is still buffered... Linux doesn't have raw disk devices. I haven't >yet figured out why there's so much resistance to adding them. I don't see any resistance. Just because Linus hasn't done it doesn't mean he won't let them in. Everyone's busy. Would you write them? It shouldn't be too hard. Not that they're all that useful anyway: speed tests and mkfs/fsck are about the only uses I can think of, but I'll be happy to hear of others. -- Robert Sanders Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt8134b Internet: gt8134b@prism.gatech.edu ------------------------------ From: jhintze@snakemail.hut.fi (Jochum Hintze) Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.modems,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.apps Subject: Re: Modem XTERM emulation? Date: 24 Aug 93 17:34:48 GMT >SO far the winner in our evaluation appears to be the new PC Xware from >NCD. Get the XREMOTE option in order to run it over a modem. You >can use the window manager on the Unix machine (say OpenLook), >use Microsoft Windows as your window manager, or use the NCD window >manager. This program runs under Windows. The NCD window manager has selectable >Motif or Windows look/feel. It allows focus to follow the mouse pointer. >There is a phone directory and the ability to store modem setups for >calling different locations. It also has VT320 terminal emulation for the initi >al >login. >Other programs are Humiingbird's eXceed/Xpress and eXodeus (White Pines Softwar >e) >with the XREMOTE option. Are any of these programs PD or Shareware? If so can you FTP them from somewhere? Jochum ------------------------------ From: mark@datasoft.north.net (Mark Buckaway) Subject: Re: libc-4.4.2, where is it ? Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 02:29:57 GMT Joe Rosenfeld (cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu) wrote: : This is well and good. But how does one join the GCC channel? It : appears there is no way to get the pl12 kermel and tcp/ip stuff to get : past the network unreachable message, even though I have added default : routes, hosts hosts.conf, etc. I think I am properly set up, and owuld : like to get tcp/ip working on SLS 1.03, so how does one join? :-) Lib 4.4.2 is with SLS 1.03. Ftp into tsx-11.mit.edu. Get SLS/a1/shlibs.taz and SLS/c1/libs.taz (or something like that). I got'em and they would fine. Corrected the 256 character limit per line bug in accessing the /etc/group file as well. Mark -- Mark Buckaway | "UNIX and OS/2 are operating systems, DataSoft Communications | Windows is a pitiful shell, System Administrator | DOS is an installible virus." root@datasoft.north.net | uunorth!datasoft!root | ====================================== ------------------------------ From: barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com (Keith Barrett) Subject: Re: Boot manager Date: 24 Aug 1993 16:58:53 GMT Reply-To: barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com >Therefore, we need a better boot manager than LILO. What I'm >looking for is on the lines of this: > >All the person has to do is reboot the machine, whether in DOS or Linux, and >a menu comes up allowing the user to select whatever OS they want to run. > >I don't want something along the lines of LILO where the person HAS to hit >a key and hold it. You don't need a different Boot manager; LILO will work exactly the way you need it to. You have to configure it to use prompt/timeout instead of just delay. You can even have it display a custom prompt from a file. On My system, the boot looks like this: LILO Enter "msdos" to boot MS-DOS or Windows NT. or just wait 15 seconds and Linux will boot automatically. LILO: -- Keith Barrett (\___/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ == \---/ | Comments not represent- | barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com | ( ) =(|) | itive of any employer. | Linux: You're not dealing with AT&T | ][ __|__ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /TOM!\ /CROW!\ ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: ege@cerl.fiu.edu (Dr. Raimund K. Ege) Subject: Xfree 1.3 on ATI Ultra XLR Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 16:50:10 GMT I am running Linux .99pl11 on a Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V. It has a ATI Ultra XLR card, with 2MB of VRAM and RAMDAC, connected to a 17 inch Nanao Flexscan F550i color monitor. Xfree 1.3 runs fine at resolution 1024x768, with a 1024 x 1024 virtual screen size. Upon startup X reports: "amount of RAM on Video adapter: 1024k." When I try to increase the virtual screen size, X reports that there is not enough RAM. After setting "Videoram 2048" in Xconfig, larger virtual sizes are allowed, but the screen gets messed up if something is moved into the lower portion of the screen (it re-appears on the top). I guess my questions are: (1) Is it possible to take advantage of the 2MB VRAM and RAMDAC under Linux/Xfree ? (2) Is it possible to get a screen resolution of 1280x1024, non-interlaced (as advertised for the card) under Linux/Xfree ? The card and monitor works as advertised/specified under Windows. Here are some pertinent excerpts from my Xconfig file: # # The graphics drivers # First the 8-bit colour SVGA driver # vga256 # # To disable SpeedUp, use NoSpeedUp # # NoSpeedUp Virtual 1024 1024 ViewPort 0 0 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" # "1280x1024" Clocks 18 22 25 28 36 49 50 56 30 32 37 39 40 0 75 65 # Videoram 2048 # ... "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 "1280x1024i" 75 1280 1280 1512 1632 1024 1024 1027 1041 Interlace 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace "1280x1024" 65 1280 1280 1480 1584 1024 1024 1027 1040 75 1280 1280 1512 1632 1024 1024 1027 1041 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 Any help, and possible settings for Xconfig for this card/monitor setup are greatly appreciated. -- Raimund K. Ege School of Computer Science Florida Int'l University ege@scs.fiu.edu (305) 348-3381 University Park ege@servax.bitnet FAX (305) 348-3549 Miami, FL 33199 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) Subject: Dummy IRQ questions (WRT 3c503 ether cards) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 17:07:52 GMT Hi guys, I hate to admit this, but I've never really understood the IRQ scenario. I have two hosts, both using 3Com 3c503 EtherLink II cards and often, the kernel reports that I have a possible conflict on IRQ 5. Since I bought these boards 2nd hand, I don't think I have the full docs for them. Can anyone offer some assistance here? Specifically the info I seek is: 1) general desc of what IRQs are 2) what I must do to the 3c503 cards (jumpers??) to get them on a different IRQ so that they do not conflict. 3) how I can tell what the IRQs are for the other boards in my machines. Any help on any of the above would be greatly appreciated! cak Geekium Rex ------------------------------ From: wanggaar@noble.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael M Wanggaard) Subject: Linux (not X) with Viper Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 17:56:44 GMT After much BS, I will receive a gw2k system packaged with the Diamond Viper. I had specifically requested the ATI XLR, but I understand that ATI messed up some shipment or something, and my system is already a week late. The only way that I can get the system in my hot little hands is to accept the exchange for the Viper (albeit temporary). I was wondering if I would experience any trouble running with Linux. I would just like to get started with it until I get the ATI card, and I was wondering if there are any specific programs that I can't run with the Viper card. Also, can I run X in mono-VGA or something with the Viper? I would assume this is stretching, but one of the most exciting things for me about getting my new computer is that I could have Linux, and now not only have I had to wait an endless age, but if I can't run X I will be real happy :( Please respond to wanggaar@en.ecn.purdue.edu ------------------------------ From: mccoy@sector.kodak.com (John McCoy) Subject: Developing an Operating System Date: 24 Aug 93 16:39:06 GMT Reply-To: mccoy@sector.kodak.com I am developing an operating system for my masters project on a 386 platform. What I am interested in doing, is to be able to boot my OS from DOS or be able to create a bootable floppy. I have been looking at LINUX and espically at bootlin4.exe. Is there any more information on bootlin4 available and does anyone know of where I can get the information I need to accomplish my objectives. I'm just looking to do the basics not a giant full blown OS. Any help would be appreciated. John R. McCoy Eastman Kodak Company mccoy@sector.kodak.com What if dogs and cats had hands and feet, wouldn't that be weird? ------------------------------ From: guest@hpacv.com Subject: Help! Need a string! Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 13:52:13 GMT Hello! I am using 2 diff modems to attempt to enable dialins and cannot seem to get things to jive. I have a U.S.R. Sportster 14.4 and a Cardinal 9600. My /etc/inittab enrty is: S2:456:respawn:/etc/getty ttyS2 19200 vt100 My gettydefs cascade from 19200 to 300 as follows: 19200# B19200 CS8 # B19200 SANE -ISTRIP HUPCL # login: #9600 The modem string I'm using is: at E0 Q1 V0 S0=1 &C1 &S0 &D3 It appears as though only a very few can get in. Most of time the carrier is droped on them before they even get a chance to login. I have changed the string several times to no avail =;-(... does anyone have _ANY_ ideas on this at all??? I'm going nuts! Thanx much, root@hpacv.com ------------------------------ Subject: login shell-init permission problem From: v61u0005@diamond.sara.nl (Gert van der Zwan) Date: 24 Aug 93 15:58:37 +0200 Keywords: after updating my system to version 0.99.11 i get the following error messages when not loging in as "root": shell-init: Permission denied pwd: Permission denied : Permission denied any suggestion as to solve this would be welcome. replies please to zwan@sara.nl ------------------------------ From: dancy@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ahmon Dancy) Subject: Re: Help! Need a string! Date: 24 Aug 1993 19:23:14 GMT In article <1993Aug24.135213.1603@hpacv.com>, wrote: > It appears as though only a very few can get in. Most of time >the carrier is droped on them before they even get a chance to login. > I have changed the string several times to no avail =;-(... >does anyone have _ANY_ ideas on this at all??? I'm going nuts! I found that changing the DTR-drop-detect-time setting on the modems helps a good deal. Increasing the time, that is. Here's what happens when someone logs in: (Someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong) (The following also depends on how you have things setup in your getty defaults files..) getty opens on the serial lines.. .this raises the DTR on the modems.. making them alert. getty is waiting for RING or something of the sort. once getty gets this... it closes the serial line, which drops the DTR on the modem, which (depending on how the modem is set) hangs up the connection. then it reopens the serial line (or the cua line depending on your settings) and runs login... etc. I don't know why getty open, closes, and then reopens the serial line, but I'm positive that that's why it hangs up. So I use ATS25= to change the DTR timeout value. You might check your modem manual cuz I'm not sure it 25 is the right S register. I'm going from memory here. I hope this helps. ------------------------------ From: bone@uncledad.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil (Mike Bone) Subject: used hardware ? Date: 24 Aug 1993 14:24:28 -0500 I'm looking for a company that sells used hardware (scsi tape drives in particular) with somewhat of a warranty. I'm posting here because I'm pretty sure I saw something about such a company in California a while back, but I can't remember where I saw the post. Mike Bone (bone@uncledad.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil) ------------------------------ From: jseung@netcom.com (John Seung) Subject: Mounting a HardcardXLII Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 19:07:31 GMT I have Hardcard XLII 105. I haven't had any success mounting a Hardcard. Has anyone get it to work? Thanks. E-mail please. John H. Seung ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: poster From: bj@hatch.socal.com (Sohar Inc.) Subject: PS/2s are not all microchannel!! Does Linux work on these? Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 16:57:24 GMT The FAQ says "Linux doesn't work on microchannel machines" (fair 'nuff) "This basically includes all true blue PS/2s" (Wrong! The high end of the PS/2 range are microchannel, but all the low end stuff (upto the model 40) are industry standard ISA (ie. PC AT) buses. I have a PS/2 M40. It definitely has an ISA bus. (Why can't people follow this? I'm forever explaining to well meaning support personel that PS/2 does not always mean microchannel). I installed the latest release of Linux SLS on my PS/2 M40. Rather, I tried. After detecting nearly everything correctly (right down to the soundcard) it tried to read my floppy disk (which it identified correctly), but then it barfed trying to read sector 2, the driver recalibrated, then it tried 4, and 0, reporting a 'floppy I/O' error each time. Question: Is it microchannel that Linux can't handle, or is it the advanced BIOS in these machines that can handle multitasking at a BIOS level? The FAQ says microchannel, but I'm starting to think it is making an unhealthy generalisation. Question: Has anyone got Linux working on a PS/2?? Say not and I might have to write my own OS after all.... enjoy (I'm not), bj. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************