From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 22 Aug 93 20:13:04 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #157 Linux-Activists Digest #157, Volume #6 Sun, 22 Aug 93 20:13:04 EDT Contents: Net probs: software or hardware? (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) SystemV FS and Xenix FS - need testers (haible@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de) stdin quirk under vi (Shannon) Can't use X other than login as root (lau chi ngan) cannot dial in using getty(or getty_ps) (lau chun) SCSI hassel: can't fdisk HP 1GB disk (no disk geometery) (NSF SF Bay research projects) Re: tar & mt (Arne Wichmann) Re: stdin quirk under vi (Michael Fuhr) Re: A Word Processor for Linux (Guru Aleph_Null) Problems with Trident 8900CL chipset and DOSEMU... (Charles Ro Whealton) Re: DOSEMU:0.49 doesn't work, won't compile. (Zhuo Er Lin) GCC 2.4.5 crashes when swapping? (Pasi Ahopelto) Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius (KZUPAN@LSTC2VM.stortek.com) SCSI local bus cards (Brian Quandt) Re: efax (simple fax program) v 0.3 available (Zhuo Er Lin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) Subject: Net probs: software or hardware? Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 19:42:03 GMT Greets, Could anyone help with the following? I recently installed two 3Com 3c503's (EtherLink II) in my two PCs, one running pl 11 and the other pl 12. "host1" is a 386 running the pl 12 kernel and "host2" is a 486 running the pl 11 kernel. Both machines are using the NET-2 suite which I ftp-ed from tsx-11. Here is what the network looks like: +------------------------------------------------------+ | T.B.C=========================C.B.T | | | | | | +-----+ +-----+ | | |host1| |host2| | | +-----+ +-----+ | | | | T: 50 ohm terminator (connected directly onto B) | | B: BNC "T" connector (connected to 3c503) | | C: end of cable connector (solderless variety) | | =: RG-58 solid core coax cable (for thinnet) | +------------------------------------------------------+ Each machine exhibits different problems when booted. My original intention was to use the 386 (host1) for a gateway/ nameserver for the already overworked 486 (host2) machine. When host1 boots, it detects the 3c503 card but does not report its IRQ. host2 does detect the card and reports the IRQ it is using. The jumpers on both cards are set to the same configuration: MEM @ dc00, I/O @ 300. The IRQ for host2 is 9. I suspect the IRQ for host1 is 5 but am not really all that sure. When running, any attempt on host2 to use eth0 (ie. ping host1) will result in the following message, which is continually repeated every so often: eth0: transmit timed out, TX status 0xe, ISR 0x0 eth0: Possible network cable problem? eth0: Resetting the 3c503 board 0x708=0x10 0x706=0x2 0x205=0x49... done. The "possible network cable problem" is perhaps the most alarming since I built the thing not really knowing what I was doing but using "common sense" and some 2nd hand information. As for host1, any attempt to use network software (such as doing a "finger @host2") will result in a message similar to this: finger: tcp/finger: unknown service So I hope you can see that I can't tell whether its a hardware or software (or both) problem. I could provide copies of my /conf/net files (if that would help) but their contents parallel pretty closely the suggested entries in the NET-2.FAQ. Thanks for reading this, cak Geekium Rex ------------------------------ From: haible@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de Subject: SystemV FS and Xenix FS - need testers Date: 22 Aug 1993 20:18:32 GMT Hello all, I have kernel patches that allow Linux to access (read/write) disks and/or partitions of the following filesystems: - Xenix FS, - SystemV Release 2 (286) FS, - SystemV Release 4 (386) FS, - Coherent FS. They are on ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.115.2] in directory /pub/linux/sysvfs/ , for 0.99.10, 0.99.11, 0.99.12 separately. I have been able to test SysV and Coherent FS on floppy disks, and Coherent FS has been reported to work on hard disk partitions. Before these patches can be included into the standard kernel, they need some testing, however. Please test it and report your success (or failure) to me. Does it work? Does it produce kernel printk() warnings? Does the other OS's fsck complain about what my code did to your disk? ** USE AT YOUR OWN RISK - IT'S STILL ALPHA ** ** MOUNT READ-ONLY THE FIRST TIME ** Bruno Haible haible@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de ------------------------------ From: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon) Subject: stdin quirk under vi Date: 22 Aug 1993 16:44:01 -0400 Reply-To: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon) For some reason, my vi editor has started having problems with stdin. If I select a range of text and perform any operation on it, the results are put into the buffer but the first line is always: stty: standard input: Invalid argument No big deal, I just delete it. Thing is, something I have done has started this (at least I think so). I'm running .99p12 kernel (non-ALPHA) and this problem existed on .99pl9 (suddenly, just one day I got up and...) .99p11 too. My current plan to go get vi sources and compile them to see if maybe the binary just doesn't like something on the system. If anyone knows the REAL reason let me know because other than recompiling I have no idea. Plus, even if the recompile works I would like to know what caused this to happen for learning purposes. csh / shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu ------------------------------ From: cnlau1@ie.cuhk.hk (lau chi ngan) Subject: Can't use X other than login as root Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 05:00:17 GMT I've installed X windows and can successfully use Openwin when login as root but not others. What have I missed? The following are the error message when I login other than root: Setting TCP SO_LINGER: Protocol not available no SIOCGIFCONF XFree86 Version 1.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000) Configured drivers: VGA256 (256 colour SVGA): et4000, et3000, pvga1, gvga, ati, tvga8900c, tvga9000 Fatal server error: Server must be suid root giving up. xinit: Invalid argument (errno 22): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. -- The Chinese University of Hong Kong Department of Information Engineering Internet: cnlau1@ie.cuhk.hk ------------------------------ From: clau1@ie.cuhk.hk (lau chun) Subject: cannot dial in using getty(or getty_ps) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 14:20:35 GMT Hello guys, I am using getty( getty_ps) to watch my modem line but still cannot dialin. My modem connect to ttyS1(com 2) I setup it up according to the serial-FAQ. The modem is inited but it does not answer my phone call. I have the following entries in my /etc/default/getty.ttyS1 SYSTEM = linux2 VERSION =/proc/version LOGIN=/bin/login ISSUE=/etc/issue CLEAR=NO HANGUP=YES INIT="" ATZ\r OK TIMEOUT=60 WAITFOR=RING CONNECT="" ATA\r CONNECT \s\A ALTLINE=cua1 I have check that getty is watching my modem but it does not answer the call. I try to type garbage in the getty.ttyS1 and there is no error message. I conclude that it is possible getty does not read me getty.ttyS1 and does not send the init and autoanswer string. HELP!!! HELP!!! Could someone tell me how to make it work? Thanks in advance . please e-mail to : clau1@ie.cuhk.hk ------------------------------ From: nsf@tahoe.ced.berkeley.edu (NSF SF Bay research projects) Subject: SCSI hassel: can't fdisk HP 1GB disk (no disk geometery) Date: 22 Aug 1993 21:50:09 GMT I just sprang for a 1 GB Hewlett Packard disk (C2247) and I can't get Linux to fdisk/format it. When I try to do anything with fdisk, I get... You must set heads sectors and cylinders. You can do this from the extra functions menu. Command (m for help): Fdisk does see the drive and I can mount the DOS partition. I'm clueless as to cyl/heads/sector settings (calls are in to the vendor and mfgr). However, the FAQ is ambiguous as to whether the provision of this information will actually solve the problem. Also, when the machine boots, Linux recognizes the Future Domain controller (1680) but it says something like "Selection Failed" in the bootup chatter. Also, there are two other IDE HDs on this machine. Gag! Help me please, even if all you know is the cyclinders/heads/sectors settings. Thanks, Howard (nsf@ced.berkeley.edu) -- Howard Foster (nsf@ced.berkeley.edu) Ph.D. candidate^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H, (got it!) Environmental Planning, UC Berkeley. Phone: 510-848-1241 ------------------------------ From: aw@math.uni-sb.de (Arne Wichmann) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin Subject: Re: tar & mt Date: 22 Aug 1993 14:24:31 GMT In article <24t8qv$6d@usenet.rpi.edu> clemmd@aix.rpi.edu (Dave Clemmer Jr.) writes: [...] >>If he's got the tar from SLS 1.02 or earlier, that won't work. :-( >thank you again... i've got 1.00 ... (i was wondering why it complained >about the file not being compressed w/ compress when i used the -z option...:) I solved this problem by using 'ln -fs `type -path gunzip` `type -path uncompress`' when I hit it... ciao, AW -- That you are not paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you... Arne Wichmann (aw@math.uni-sb.de) ------------------------------ From: mfuhr@cwis.unomaha.edu (Michael Fuhr) Subject: Re: stdin quirk under vi Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 21:32:36 GMT shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon) writes: > For some reason, my vi editor has started having problems with >stdin. If I select a range of text and perform any operation on it, the >results are put into the buffer but the first line is always: >stty: standard input: Invalid argument If you're using a csh-like shell, check your shell initialization files (.cshrc, .tcshrc, /etc/csh.cshrc, etc.) for the command "stty" - it prints the message you indicated if stdin isn't a terminal. If you find any, put a condition around them, as in this example: if ($?prompt) then stty erase ^H endif Csh will leave the prompt variable empty if stdin isn't a terminal, so the stty command would be skipped in that case. Be sure to make the check before you've set the prompt yourself. -- Michael Fuhr "A man who was born to drown mfuhr@cwis.unomaha.edu will drown on a desert." -Unknown ------------------------------ From: spj@ukelele.gcr.com (Guru Aleph_Null) Subject: Re: A Word Processor for Linux Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 15:53:35 GMT keith@ksmith.com (Keith Smith) writes: >In article <1993Aug17.014927.14378@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> pn002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Peter C. Norton) writes: >>And no one uses windoze? Or WFW 2.x? these aren't something akin to >>hoge memory hogs? Sheesh! You people are insane? >Yea, but with windows you get graphics. With EMACS you get a shell, >LISP interpeter, ad nauseum. ie a bunch of shit you don't really need >to do word processing. Adding EMACS to a GUI and your in DOUBLE for >memory/resource usage. You are comparing a User Interface to an >application. This is stupid. Emacs is not a word processor/ Windows is not an operating system/ Expressed in dollars and cents/ Pounds shillings and pence Can't you see/ It all makes perfect sense/ Actually, if it gets the job done, and it makes you happy, why should you care if it "doubles" your memory/resource usage. WFW and Windows is about the same size as X/Emacs anyway... But Emacs is not a word processor, why should it do word processing? (I haven't seen a major Emacs mode that does it yet... it would probably be like WP on 18.5x... I haven't run Emacs V19 yet...) MS-DOS/Windows is not an operating system, why should anyone run it on their computer? >-- >Keith Smith keith@ksmith.com 5719 Archer Rd. >Digital Designs BBS 1-919-423-4216 Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201 >Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ... -- ========================================================================= Simon "Guru Aleph-Null" Janes |... don't crespt the weasal ... |... just think of the master ... |... feel the grass, softly ... ------------------------------ From: whealton@brahms.udel.edu (Charles Ro Whealton) Subject: Problems with Trident 8900CL chipset and DOSEMU... Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 22:47:57 GMT Howdy again! I'm having trouble getting the dos emulator to work properly. I've searched through the FAQ and didn't really find anything about using dosemu. I've searched through the dosemu info files. I've also experimented and experimented and experimented and I'm sure it must be something simple I'm doing wrong. I believe my problem centers around my Trident video card which is using the 8900CL chipset. I believe this because commenting out the video section makes things work, but with no decent graphics. Even just taking out the "graphics" keyword seems to make it work - but still with no graphics (naturally). I simply boot the system off the hdimage of the C: drive which comes with the dosemu system. Then I use the .sys file that comes with the distribution to have a D: drive which is my normal DOS partition mounted at /dos2. I have the Trident card I mentioned above, with a 486 board and 4 megs of RAM with 16 megs of swap. When I get it booted it'll come up with the Trident banner and then lock up without even giving me a DOS prompt. The area of the screen where it locks up varies but when it does it (always), I never get a DOS prompt. I do get messages while in DOS trying to use graphically oriented programs that say "new unknown video int 0x1012" and when trying to start it it gives and error message and lists 'port 0x3f8' along with a memory location. Those come when I take out the graphics keyword or just comment the entire video section out. Has anybody gotten this emulator up and working correctly with a Trident card using the chipset I have? I know the chipsets given were the et4000 and another Trident chipset other than mine but I'd imagine there's gotta be a way to get this to work with graphics. I've also tried using the vgaon program and I get the same results, it just locks up after the Trident banner. If I didn't want the wifty MS-DOG graphics, everything'd work just fine. If anybodies gotten this emulator to work with the same type of Trident chipset I have, I'd appreciate any help... I'm enclosing a copy of my config file. If somebody see's anything with it, please let me know... I've tried everything I know (admittedly not much)... Thanks again in advance... Chuck Whealton whealton@brahms.udel.edu or chuck@apache.dtcc.edu # Linux dosemu 0.49 configuration file # Robert Sanders, gt8134b@prism.gatech.edu, 5/16/93 # #debug +Idv-kmx # "debug -a" turns all messages off debug -a # These two are set to the defaults. keybint is still unstable, # and timint is necessary for many programs. These are mostly # useful as debugging aids. keybint off timint on serial { mouse device /dev/cua0 } video { vga console graphics chipset trident memsize 1024 vbios_file /etc/dosemu/vbios VGA } RawKeyboard mathco on # on or off cpu 80486 # or 80286 or 80386 bootC # or bootA dosmem 640 xms 2000 # XMS size in K, or off ems off # EMS size in K, or off #ports { 0x388 0x389 } # for SimEarth #speaker native # also off or emulated #******************* HARD DISKS ******************************* disk { image "/etc/dosemu/hdimage" } # Boot off C: drive IMAGE #disk { partition "/dev/sda1" 1 } # 1st partition on 1st disk #disk { partition "/dev/hda1" 1 readonly } # 1st partition on 1st disk #disk { wholedisk "/dev/sda" } # 1st partition on 1st disk #******************* FLOPPY DISKS ***************************** #floppy { heads 2 sectors 18 tracks 80 threeinch file diskimage } floppy { device /dev/fd0 fiveinch } #printer { options "%s" command "lpr" timeout 20 } #printer { options "-p %s" command "lpr" timeout 10 } #printer { file "lpt3" } ------------------------------ From: umlin000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Zhuo Er Lin) Subject: Re: DOSEMU:0.49 doesn't work, won't compile. Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 22:36:46 GMT In <109766@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt8134b@prism.gatech.EDU (Howlin' Bob) writes: >ashley@cco.caltech.edu (Allen M. Ashley) writes: >>run out of the box since the /etc/dosemu/config file is interpreted >>at run time. Not so. After loading up diskimage I get a never ending >>sequence of: >>SYSCALL ERROR:38 function not implemented in file mutex.c >>expr=semop(sem,semoa,1) >>line 52 or 79. >This seems to say that your kernel doesn't have SYSV IPC support >compiled in. What version of the kernel do you run? I recommend >0.99pl12 *with* SYSV IPC enabled. >>I got the earlier version of dosemu to run, but this one seems to be >>a giant step backward. Any clues for the clueless? >Uh, thank you for the confidence. Good luck. I also have ththe same problem. My kernel is out of box SLS 1.03 p12. BTW, I only can run dosemu oncnly once. Now it never run. I follows the dosemu FAQ exactttly, but it said: BTESTING DOS_SYSCALL messages.. SYSCALL ERROR: 45, *Level 2 not synchronized* in file emu.c, line 235: expr= -1 CLI/STI initialized VID: malloc'ed scrbuf at 0x00114000 debug flags: -a debug flags: -vsdRWkpiwghxmIEc DEBUG FLAGS: disk: 0, keyboard: 0, video: 0, io: 0 serial: 0, printer: 0, warning: 0 , general: 0 ERROR: IMAGE diskimage header lacks magic string - cannot autosense! leavedos(1) called - shutting down ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: timed/signalled out in leavedos() What's the problem? -- ======================================================================== | Eric Lin (Home): (204) 783-2884 | | Computer Engineering FAX Modem: (204) 783-2884 | | University of Manitoba Internet: Umlin000@cc.Umanitoba.CA | ------------------------------ From: linkbbs@pcuf.fi (Pasi Ahopelto) Subject: GCC 2.4.5 crashes when swapping? Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 07:58:35 GMT I have Linux 0.99PL10 and GCC V2.4.5 installed on 386 with 4 MB ram and 8 MB swap partition. GCC crashes almost always when it swaps to disk, this happens after some 400 kB of swap space is used. Funny thing is, that GCC works if system is heavily loaded (some 1-2 MB is already used for swapping before I run GCC). Other programs don't crash, when they use swap partition. So I don't think this is a hard disc malfunction. ------------------------------ From: KZUPAN@LSTC2VM.stortek.com Subject: Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 17:37:40 GMT In article <255ljc$5jm@ionews.io.org> las@io.org (Laszlo Herczeg) writes: > >Folks, I still think though that the original poster had an valid >point: will Linux ever be accessible to those outside of the CS circle. > > He was asking for "philosophy student-proof" installation instructions, >and you started throwing Unix-for -Dummies book titles at him. > > I am a philosopher myself, and I really think no one should be allowed >to wield power over technology who cannot pass a course in literary >criticism. > The Linux system administrator's guide (SAG) was a very good first >step in making Linux more accessible, but it is in .ps format, and how >do you expect someone coming to Linux from the PC world to be able >to read .ps if they don't even know what a compiler is ? >Sure, Linux isn't for everyone, but if someone is smart enough to have >heard of Linux in the DOS world, they will be smart enough to learn Linux >_provided_ they are shown the ropes to make the first couple moves. > There is much that is arcane and intimidating to a newbie, for example, >they have to repartition their hard drive, etc., so at least there should >be a very "handholding" manual explaining things step-by-step, with >as little techie jargon as possible. You all had your initiation to Un*x, >and I am more than sure that you appreciated straight talk when you were >learning Un*x. >-- >================================================================================ >Laszlo Herczeg E-mail: las@io.org >Be careful : our subnet is being run on the (as yet) unreliable net-2 code >================================================================================ Such a manual does exist, or at least pretty close to it. The Linux Installation and Getting Started guide was just recently released by Matt Walsh. He worked very hard on this book and came up with IMHO a very good piece of literature to get newbies on their way. You really should check it out. It is available in .ps, .dvi and stantard text mode. You will find the book on tsx-11.mit.edu in the /pub/linux/docs/LDP directory (also available on other known linux sites and mirrors). It goes through all the basics and a general intro to unix and linux operation. It really is a fine book. Hail the Linux Document Project ========================================================================= | L IIIII NN N U U X X Having Problems? Be sure to pick | | L I N N N U U X X up the new book 'Linux Installation| | L I N N N U U X and Getting Started' by Matt Walsh | | L IIIII N NN UUU X X Available at tsx-11.mit.edu in | | LLLLL X X /pub/linux/docs/LDP and other sites| | -Kevin Zupan | | Out to fix what Windoze MS'd up! Kzupan@lstc2vm.stortek.com | ========================================================================= ------------------------------ From: quandt@cs.umr.edu (Brian Quandt) Subject: SCSI local bus cards Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 23:03:19 GMT Looking for a SCSI local bus controller card that is compatible with LINUX, any suggestions? DTC? I have looked at the compat.list but don't see any local bus SCSI controllers on the list, are there any that run in a compatibilty mode (say adaptec 15x, 17x)? ------------------------------ From: umlin000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Zhuo Er Lin) Subject: Re: efax (simple fax program) v 0.3 available Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 23:31:56 GMT Do you have a version support class 1 FAX modem? My QuickComm Spirit II 14400 is a class 1 FAx modem, unfortuetly. -- ======================================================================== | Eric Lin (Home): (204) 783-2884 | | Computer Engineering FAX Modem: (204) 783-2884 | | University of Manitoba Internet: Umlin000@cc.Umanitoba.CA | ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************