From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Thu, 19 Aug 93 04:13:04 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #140 Linux-Activists Digest #140, Volume #6 Thu, 19 Aug 93 04:13:04 EDT Contents: dosemu boot error ! (Zhuo Er Lin) help:where i can find news software (panhwars@topaz.ucq.edu.au) Re: Is Jana still around?? (paul@hal.isc.toronto.ibm.com) Re: When's Linux 1.0 coming out? (dan@oea.hobby.nl) Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius (Jim Graham) Re: libc-4.4.2, where is it ? (Byron A Jeff) Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius (John Henders) Re: SCSI Performance (John Henders) Re: SLS 1.03 and XS3 (Help!!) (John Weidman) Re: mtab, fstab, mount & du... Was: Set up Swap disk & ps problem (Mitchell Brandsma) Linux on CD-ROM For Only U$ 19.95 (Jay Jana) Re: nntp over term (dracula) Re: Unix close for 486 - commens requested (Charles Ro Whealton) Re: When's Linux 1.0 coming out? (R. Hegt) Re: When's Linux 1.0 coming out? (Joerg Scheurich) Modem XTERM emulation? (Bo Peng) IBM PC jr display (william serrano) The meaning of DOS (David Simmons) DIP problem: mode SLIP gives SETD: Invalid argument (David Simmons) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: umlin000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Zhuo Er Lin) Subject: dosemu boot error ! Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 02:32:25 GMT Hi hackers. I just install linux SLS 1.03 a,b,c series. I tried dosemu yesterday the first time and it works when I booted from A:. Today I tried it again and it failed. I followed the instruction in dosemu FAQ and recreate the diskimage again, but still cannot make it work. Here is the capture dosdbg file: TESTING DOS_SYSCALL messages.. SYSCALL ERROR: 45, *Level 2 not synchronized* in file emu.c, line 235: expr= -1 CLI/STI initialized VID: malloc'ed scrbuf at 0x00114000 debug flags: +a debug flags: +vsdRWkpiwghxmIEc SER: /dev/cua0 port 3f8 int c SER: /dev/cua1 port 2f8 int b CONF: allowing access to the speaker ports! CONF: I/O port 0x21e CONF: I/O port 0x22e CONF: I/O port 0x23e CONF: I/O port 0x24e CONF: I/O port 0x25e CONF: I/O port 0x26e CONF: I/O port 0x27e CONF: I/O port 0x28e CONF: I/O port 0x29e device: diskimage type 0 header_size: 128 h: -1 s: -1 t: -1 CONF: now 1 hdisks device: /dev/hda1 type 3 partition# 1 h: -1 s: -1 t: -1 CONF: now 2 hdisks device: /dev/fd0 type 2 h: 0 s: 0 t: 0 CONF: now 1 floppies device: /dev/fd1 type 2 h: 0 s: 0 t: 0 CONF: now 2 floppies n: 0 f: (null) c: lpr o: %s t: 20 n: 1 f: (null) c: lpr o: -p %s t: 10 DEBUG FLAGS: disk: 1, keyboard: 1, video: 1, io: 1 serial: 1, printer: 1, warning: 1 , general: 1 IPC: shm...idt: 768, low: 769, param 773, HMA 772 PARAM: number 773, address 0x5fff0000 EMS: initializing memory EMS: Not opening /proc/self/mem VIDEO BIOS address: 0xc0000 EMULATE TIMER: setting ticks to: 0x000d85fc from: 0x00000000 TIMER: update value of 2 ISBLK dev : 200 DISK /dev/fd0 removeable ISBLK dev : 201 DISK /dev/fd1 removeable IMAGE auto-sensing ERROR: IMAGE diskimage header lacks magic string - cannot autosense! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ leavedos called with sig 1! leavedos(1) called - shutting down LPT: closing printer 0 ((null)) ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: signal 11 received in leavedos() ERROR: timed/signalled out in leavedos() The ERROR line is displayed when -a switch is used. Here is my /etc/dosemu/config: # Linux dosemu 0.49 configuration file # Robert Sanders, gt8134b@prism.gatech.edu, 5/16/93 # # debug +Idv-kmx # "debug -a" turns all messages off debug +a # These two are set to the defaults. keybint is still unstable, # and timint is necessary for many programs. These are mostly # useful as debugging aids. keybint off timint on serial { mouse device /dev/cua0 } serial { modem device /dev/cua1 } #video { vga console graphics chipset et4000 memsize 1024 } video { vga console graphics } #video { vga console graphics chipset et4000 memsize 1024 vbios_file /etc/dosemu/vbios } #video { vga console } RawKeyboard # don't include this if you don't want it mathco on # on or off cpu 80386 # or 80286 or 80386 #bootC # or bootA bootA xms 1000 # XMS size in K, or off #ems 1000 # EMS size in K, or off ems off dosmem 640 #ports { 0x388 0x389 } # for SimEarth speaker native # also off or emulated ports { 0x21e 0x22e 0x23e 0x24e 0x25e 0x26e 0x27e 0x28e 0x29e } # for jill #******************* HARD DISKS ******************************* #disk { image "etc/dosemu/hdimage" } disk { image "diskimage" } disk { partition "/dev/hda1" 1 } # 1st partition on 1st disk #******************* FLOPPY DISKS ***************************** #floppy { heads 2 sectors 18 tracks 80 threeinch file diskimage } floppy { device /dev/fd0 threeinch } floppy { device /dev/fd1 fiveinch } printer { options "%s" command "lpr" timeout 20 } printer { options "-p %s" command "lpr" timeout 10 } # pr format it # printer { file "lpt3" } What's wrong with my setup? The disk is bootable and have command.com, fdisk.exe, format.exe in it. -- ======================================================================== Eric Lin (Home): (204) 783-2884 Computer Engineering Internet: Umlin000@cc.Umanitoba.CA University of Manitoba ------------------------------ From: panhwars@topaz.ucq.edu.au Subject: help:where i can find news software Date: 19 Aug 93 13:04:11 +1000 hello fellow netters, I have to install any news software (c-news is not acceptable) on linux. Any friend can tell me where I can find the software? Thanx in advance My e-mail address is panhwars@topaz.ucq.edu.au ------------------------------ From: paul@hal.isc.toronto.ibm.com Subject: Re: Is Jana still around?? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 19:19:05 GMT I got a bill from Jana Publishing for $60 last week; I guess they are still very much alive and kicking. Too bad they don't pay attention to their email much. Paul. email:paul@hal.isc.toronto.ibm.com NOTE: My opinion is mine, and mine alone. ------------------------------ From: dan@oea.hobby.nl Subject: Re: When's Linux 1.0 coming out? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 01:10:38 GMT Shun-Chang Tsai (stsai@husc11.harvard.edu) wrote: : just out of curiostiy, can anyone give me an estimate of the relase : date for Linux 1.0? After all, the version number is getting pretty : close to it. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Hardly. There is still an uncountable number of reals between us and 1.0. :-) -- |< Dan Naas dan@oea.hobby.nl >| +---------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham) Subject: Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 12:41:18 GMT In article eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale) writes: >In article mwright@netcom.com (Matthew Wright) writes: >> "Unix for Dummies", is out from IDG Books, a great Unix intro and >>quite funny to boot.. > > Hmm, I have never tried to boot off of a book. What kind of floppy >drives do you have that allow you to insert a book? Gives a whole new meaning to the concept of ``paging'', doesn't it? :-) --jim -- #include 73 DE N5IAL (/4) ==========================< Running Linux 0.99 PL9 >========================== INTERNET: jim@n5ial.mythical.com | j.graham@ieee.org ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W AMATEUR RADIO: (packet station temporarily offline) AMTOR SELCAL: NIAL ============================================================================== E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs). ------------------------------ From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) Subject: Re: libc-4.4.2, where is it ? Reply-To: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 05:38:25 GMT Peter stuck lib4.4.2 in some SLS changes he made today. Get shlibs.tgz from out of the distribution. BTW lib4.4.2 does solve the Class C, Class B net mapping problem. BAJ --- Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of... Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel! Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu ------------------------------ From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) Subject: Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 03:09:12 GMT trucken@exa.cs.umn.edu (David Truckenmiller) writes: >In <16C2E7CC8.KZUPAN@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> KZUPAN@LSTC2VM.stortek.com writes: >>> >>>Now, the real worry I have is this: Bill Gates is no dummy. Say he >>>reads this group. :-) He is immediately convinced by the above (brilliant) >>>argument, and dashes off a check to Linus for $2,000,000 in exchange >>>for the rights to sell Linux. >> >>Now this would be an interesting battle, especially when gnu tried to tell >> Mister (I use the term loosly) Gates that he had to provide the source code >> also. >> >> Bill GATES vs. The GPL >> THE FINAL DEVASTATION > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >My point, exactly. However, from my reading of the GPL, this can't happen. While Linus is free to licence a copy of linux to anyone he want's, previous copies like 99pl12 are still available under the GPL. The worst that could happen is that someone could change the executable format so binaries from MSlinux[tm] couldn't run under GNUlinux. This would proably set back the linux community a couple of weeks while someone hacked GNUlinux to load the new format. Big deal. If this got commercial developers porting to linux, it might not even be all that bad in the long run. ;-) -- John Henders GO/MU/E d* -p+ c+++ l++ t- m--- s/++ g+ w+++ -x+ ------------------------------ From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) Subject: Re: SCSI Performance Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 03:19:41 GMT mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) writes: >>I would expect almost 1MB/s with SCSI. >I am also getting suspect low performance using a fast Quantum SCSI HD and >an Adaptec 1542b on ISA 486 33Mhz. It doesn't seem to make sense. A me too here as well. My Conner ide actually gets slightly better times than my Maxtor scsi drive. This is also tru under DOS. The numbers are 650 for scsi, 725 for ide. Neither even comes close to my old Atari ST figure of 1150 for a Quantum lps52. -- John Henders GO/MU/E d* -p+ c+++ l++ t- m--- s/++ g+ w+++ -x+ ------------------------------ From: dk139@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Weidman) Subject: Re: SLS 1.03 and XS3 (Help!!) Date: 19 Aug 1993 06:25:12 GMT > ... I am getting lots of redrawing problems... I am using XS3 0.4.3 (I think) and I had some problems with redrawing until I added the 'nolinear' statement to my xconfig. Some S3 chips have a problem with linear memory addressing and need this line in the xconfig (at least that's the way I remember it from whatever doc I happened to read it in). Good Luck John Weidman ------------------------------ From: meetch@DIALix.oz.au (Mitchell Brandsma) Subject: Re: mtab, fstab, mount & du... Was: Set up Swap disk & ps problem Date: 19 Aug 1993 14:09:36 +0800 Karl Keyte, ESOC Darmstadt writes: >In article , JOSEPH@ob.missouri.edu says: >> ...lines deleted... >>Secondly, I tried to run ps, and it did not work (of >>course, I have the proc directory and fstat file) But >>if I run "mount -a" and then ps, it works perfectly, >>How can I get rid of the "mount -a" for ps to work?? >>Thanks!!! >Hmmm. I'm having this problem and seemingly many others are. I've >tried variations of 'fstab' entries and still no joy. The 'du' program >also fails because 'mtab' is empty. If I manually mount another device, >a DOS partition for example, then 'du' works but STILL doesn't show my >root partition '/'. >Somebody mentioned to me that there's something in the /etc/rc which >is zapping 'mtab' but I haven't had time to check that one out yet. >In any case, there's something a few of us are doing wrong - can anyone >help? This is a bit of a "me too" here... but please read on. Last night (for something to do) I installed the Absolute bare bones SLS on a 386 with 2Mb RAM (who says you can't do it? 8) - basically installing only the [IMP] packages, and later on the tcpip package from disk B1 (I think :). Anyway, this has the abovementioned problem. HOWEVER, I also installed the entire base (A? + B?) on my 386 and don't have this problem. I think this is a SLS distribution problem... or does it happen with Slackware? - Mitchell Brandsma (meetch@DIALix.oz.au :) ------------------------------ From: jay@jana.com (Jay Jana) Subject: Linux on CD-ROM For Only U$ 19.95 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 03:58:49 GMT Linux on CD-ROM For Only U$19.95 We are happy to introduce a new payment plan for the Bimonthly Linux CD-ROM Distribution. What is Linux CD-ROM Bimonthly ? Every other month you will get every thing that is on TSX-11 FTP site that is related with Linux. This includes SLS 1.2, X windows other Linux related software. Every other month Ted Tso who looks after TSX-11 sends me a tape with HD back up of the /pub/linux directory and I put them on a CD-ROM and send it out. At present we have about 1000 subscribers. How much does it cost ? A one year subscription cost $99.00 and Two years cost $149.00. If you live out side of USA & Canada then there is a additional charge of $20 to cover the shipping and customs clearance costs. If you like to pay by disk then each disk will cost you $19.95 (USA and Canada ) and $22.95 (Outside USA and Canada ). We will mail you a disk every other month and then bill your credit card ( MasterCard and VISA ). If you would like to get CD-ROMs this way then there is a half a year ( 3 CD-ROM's ) minimum commitment, after that you man cancel or continue your subscription. By paying this way you are on the safe side and we will only bill your Credit Card after we ship the disk. How can I order ? You can E-Mail us with your address and your credit card number and expiry date or FAX us at 1-416-922-5597. If you would like more info then E-Mail me. When you order please let us know which payment plan you will be choosing. One full payment or monthly billing. ************************************************************************ Jay Jana 1-800-363-2083 jay@jana.com uunorth!jana!jay ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ From: dracula@stingray.micro.umn.edu (dracula) Subject: Re: nntp over term Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 06:42:08 GMT In <24ukil$der@news.u.washington.edu> root@darktower.wastelands.com (System Administrator) writes: >I'm doing it right now. >Get nntplink-3.1.0.tar.z and your favorite newsreader (tin, trn, nn) >I'm using trn-3.2 which compiled right out of the box. You just need to >compile the newsreader to use an nntp newserver. It's very cool. >Basically, using term, you need to set YOUR machine as the nntpserver, and >tredir port 119 to your real newserver. >(on local) >tredir 119 your.news.server:119 [stuff deleted] Could you tell me where can I get the nntplink-3.1.0.tar.z ? Your email address bounce back. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.questions,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.solaris From: whealton@brahms.udel.edu (Charles Ro Whealton) Subject: Re: Unix close for 486 - commens requested Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 20:48:41 GMT In article black@cs.uri.edu (John Black) writes: >It's possible to have too much machine. I'm sitting on a >Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V that was purchased to run LynxOS. Its got >a fancy VESA local bus, fast hard drive, zippy video card, and >runs Windows 3.1 like greased lightning. It can't even load Lynx I've (not really me but a friend) had some bad experiences with Gateway. A couple years ago now a friend of mine bought one of their machines and unfortunately it was at my advice because they seemed to have such reasonable prices. We tried to install Interactive Unix System V release 3.2 on it and it kept bombing, saying it was "unable to read drive geometry". I had personally thought that it was the crappy Data Technology RLL controller they stuck him with since when trying to install it on one of my machines, the culprit also turned out to be a Data Technology controller (not very scientific, just my opinion). I called them because I had DISTINCTLY asked them on the phone when ordering this for him as to weather or not it would run Unix and the woman who was the salesperson said it DEFINATELY WOULD. Naturally, when I called back and talked to one of their support people, they said they weren't going to do anything about it because it "Runs DOS just fine". Needless to say, I'll never buy another product from Gateway nor will I ever recommend their crappy products (in my own personal opinion) to anybody. ISC Unix, although picky, at that point was probably one of the most popular Unix versions out there. If their machine wasn't capable of supporting it as it was they should of fixed it. As a result, there's already several machines people have asked me to order for them that I've gone elsewhere for. Those machines run Unix perfectly. Apparently if a machine runs MS-DOS, it's an OK machine in Gateway's opinion... Don't be fooled by their stupid ads (they used to use Cows, I don't know what they're using in their adds now - nor do I care.) Good luck. Chuck ------------------------------ From: hegt@iaci.kun.nl (R. Hegt) Subject: Re: When's Linux 1.0 coming out? Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 06:49:55 GMT Gee, what's the magic about a version number? Are you all really thinking that things will be stable when 1.0 is available? Maybe it's time to call the next version 0.100, so we no longer are expecting 1.0 'real soon now'. It seems to me a better idea than going on to 0.99.pl67 (to Linus: I'm not whining about all the releases, please keep improving the kernel). Rob Hegt ------------------------------ From: zrzm0370@helpdesk.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Joerg Scheurich) Subject: Re: When's Linux 1.0 coming out? Date: 19 Aug 1993 07:40:23 GMT >Shun-Chang Tsai (stsai@husc11.harvard.edu) wrote: > just out of curiostiy, can anyone give me an estimate of the relase > date for Linux 1.0? After all, the version number is getting pretty > close to it. As I remember, Peter McDonald told, that Linus Torvalds decided: *********************************************** There will never be a LINUX-kernel-version 1.00 *********************************************** I think, some commercial Software-developers wait for Version 1.00, till they port their product to linux 8-( so long MUFTI ------------------------------ From: bo@horus.cem.msu.EDU (Bo Peng) Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.modems,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.apps Subject: Modem XTERM emulation? Date: 19 Aug 1993 07:44:31 GMT If this were in some FAQ, at least I couldn't find it. So, please, don't flame for this FAQ-like question -- I tried to do my homework. And if you noticed that I cross-posted this to a zillion groups, that only says how badly I'd like to know the answer... ;-] Anyway, my quest is to find a modem terminal emulation that would do xterm when dialing into a unix box. If you know of such a thing, could you please tell me about it? How to tell the unix box about it? It'd be fine if it's for DOS/Windows, OS2, or linux. If there is one for an OS, chances are that I'll go with the OS just for that -- or EVEN a Mac (easy, Mac! ;-] I just don't have a deep pocket and I enjoy poking around computers, that's all). Furthermore, what about modem-to-modem, as contrary to modem-to-network (ok, phone dial-up)? BTW, how does a 14.4k modem feel doing graphics stuff like xterm? Of course I don't mean real-time video. Just lightweight stuff like text scrolling. Adthanxthanxthanxthanxvance. Bo Peng DISCLAIMER: You are neither required to read this post nor expected to follow up. The author's sole responsibility lies with its content. The author cannot be held responsible for any consequencies, direct or otherwise, of reading the post. This includes, but is not limited to, breaking the keyboard when ------------------------------ From: chriss@kaiwan.com (william serrano) Subject: IBM PC jr display Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 07:33:03 GMT nu>Does anyone happen to know what the pin out on the PCjr monitor is ? nu>(ie: what color/function the pin is for ie:#7 is ground) I need to know nu>this so that i can re-wire it and use it as a display for home brewed nu>stuff. (like a z80 pc i'm building.) I saved the following message in case I ever needed to know: ======================================================================== I could not find the pinouts (they were confusing anyway!), but this will get you what you need: DB-9 PC-JR cable Signal Pin # wire colors Ground 1 Ground (not insulated) Red 3 Red Green 4 Green Blue 5 Blue Intensty 6 Orange Horz Syn 8 Brown <-----| these 2 may be reversed, I can't Vert Syn 9 Yellow <-----| remember. If the colors are there but won't stay still, try switching them around The easiest way to make the connection is to take the pc-jr connector apart, and remove all the wires with the pins intact; then cut the pin off leaving as much wire to work with as possible. You won't have much room, they use heat shrink over the wire to protect some resistors and solder joints. The jr wire colors listed above are the colors that come from the monitor. Several different colors of wire are used to connect to the pins. The extra pins are not needed for the monitor, they were for the speaker and a few other goodies. Just cut them back and tape them togather, and stuff them into the hood that will cover your DB-9. --- þ DeLuxeý/386 1.25 #21 þ Oh, well... never mind! ------------------------------ From: simmons@borg.uucp (David Simmons) Subject: The meaning of DOS Date: 19 Aug 1993 07:56:06 GMT I have come to a revelation about DOS, after a long night of assmebling a Linux network... DOS does have its uses. DOS serves as a low level operating system that can be used to perform maintenance on linux machines easily because of its small size. An excellent analogy would be the PROM monitor on Sun machines compared to the SunOS.. :) David Simmons ------------------------------ From: simmons@borg.uucp (David Simmons) Subject: DIP problem: mode SLIP gives SETD: Invalid argument Date: 19 Aug 1993 08:01:46 GMT When I try to initiate a SLIP connection with a terminal server, DIP gives me a "SETD: Invalid argument" error when I attempt to "mode SLIP". I am setting the remote, port, and speed commands correctly. (and also the local). I have the terminal server set to always give me my machine's IP address, and the terminal server prompts me that SLIP mode has begun. The terminal server is an Annex, set to handle compression. Thanks in advance for any advice. David Simmons System Administrator Mississippi State University Electrical Engineering ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************