From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 18:13:11 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #138 Linux-Activists Digest #138, Volume #6 Wed, 18 Aug 93 18:13:11 EDT Contents: Re: network with pl12 (Ke Lan) Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius (David Truckenmiller) Re: When's Linux 1.0 coming out? (Warner Losh) Comm Program on MCC (Matthew Wright) 'as' wizards, help! Re: Unix close for 486 - commens requested (John Black) Re: How can I setup timezone on linux?? (Randolph G Brown) Re: SCSI Performance (Peter Mutsaers) Why SIGFPE and core dump instead of NaN? (Peter Mutsaers) 0.99pl12: ext2fs unmount of root is no longer successful (Peter Mutsaers) Re: Serial: My IRQ is 5 NOT 4! Change? (Karlheinz Hagen) Re: [Q] Are WD IDE drives OK? (Scott Leslie) Running Linux on Cyrix DLC-40 Local Bus System? (Rick Chow) Compiling Radiance on Linux. Need Help... (Aaron Kushner) Linux on an ESDI drive (Mark Sapp) Term limitation or easy Unix question? (Jeremy Joseph Gordon) Anyone tried mbox? (Karsten M. Winkovics) Re: which (Frank Lofaro) Syslog entries from remote hosts working? (Steve Steinberg) Re: libc-4.4.2, where is it ? (Joe Rosenfeld) Searching for a LEX (Michael Boesch) Re: tar & mt (Brandon S. Allbery) Re: SCSI Performance (Mark A. Davis) Re: ISDN for Linux ??? (Ulrich Cyrus) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lxk7324@ucs.usl.edu (Ke Lan) Subject: Re: network with pl12 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 22:16:53 GMT Hi, everyone, I finally resolve the following networking problem with PL12: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable. by hard coding the network address into 'route.c' and recompile it. The following is what I did. 1. get the source code net-010.tar.z. This file can be found in tsx-11.mit.edu or sunsite.unc.edu 2. after unarchive the package, edit the file 'route.c' and assign a long integer X to np->n_net before the line: in->s_addr = htonl(np->n_net); Assume the network address is aa.bb.cc.0, then X = aa*256^3+bb*256^2+cc*256. 3. recompile 'route' make route 4. subsitute 'route' in /etc with this new one, and that is it. Of course, one may save the old 'route' before replace it with the new one since this problem will be corrected by a new version of libc (4.4.2 ?). Thank those people help me to resolve this problem. Lan Ke ======================================================================= Department of Mathematics University of Southwestern Louisiana ------------------------------ From: trucken@exa.cs.umn.edu (David Truckenmiller) Subject: Re: Tractatus Linuxicus Newbius Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 16:49:01 GMT In <16C2E7CC8.KZUPAN@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> KZUPAN@LSTC2VM.stortek.com writes: >In article >trucken@exa.cs.umn.edu (David Truckenmiller) writes: > >> >>In mwright@netcom.com (Matthew Wright) writes: >>>David Truckenmiller (trucken@exa.cs.umn.edu) wrote: >> >>Now, the real worry I have is this: Bill Gates is no dummy. Say he >>reads this group. :-) He is immediately convinced by the above (brilliant) >>argument, and dashes off a check to Linus for $2,000,000 in exchange >>for the rights to sell Linux. (MS Linux). Linus, being a poor >>student with lots of debt, agrees, snaps up all his code, and >>sues anyone who uses it, (with Billy's help, of course). Suddenly, >>MicroSoft and Billy are worth (more) billions of dollars, and the rest >>of us have to purchase shrink wrapped programs! >> > >Now this would be an interesting battle, especially when gnu tried to tell > Mister (I use the term loosly) Gates that he had to provide the source code > also. > > Bill GATES vs. The GPL > THE FINAL DEVASTATION ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My point, exactly. -Dave -- --- Dave Truckenmiller (trucken@cs.umn.edu) [ ASCII picture ] Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux. [ under development ] ------------------------------ From: imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh) Subject: Re: When's Linux 1.0 coming out? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 16:00:05 GMT Linux 1.0 will be released as soon as every line in .99p0 has been replaced :-) Warner -- Warner Losh imp@boulder.parcplace.COM ParcPlace Boulder I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety. ------------------------------ From: mwright@netcom.com (Matthew Wright) Subject: Comm Program on MCC Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 16:58:56 GMT Hello all quick question. I have compiled several programs under the version of MCC I am using (Linux 0.99PL10). I can not however, get any type of communications program to compile properly. Minicom simply locks up after loading( I have checked the config over and over.) Pcomm gives me a couple of errors and drops back when I try to run it. So does ecu. Maybe it is just me, or do I have something set up wron in linux itself. btw. I did run mincom when I was running HLU. I can run ckermit5( am right now) which came compiled with MCC. Matt -- ==================================== Internet: mwright@netcom.com Matthew Wright Fido : 1:130/808 Arlington, TX Why? Telecommunications (817) 784-8993 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 19:38:55 CDT From: Subject: 'as' wizards, help! hello, how do i tell 'as', the gnu-assembler, to produce a listing, say, the opcodes on the left margin, and the source line in the middle? I've read through the source code, but couldn't find a switch. I have tried to modify the source for 'as', all i managed was printing out the .asm source, but not the opcodes. the source line can be printed out right after the call to md_assemble() in read.c, but where the heck is the opcode? I got headache searching for it ... greetings, Herp ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.questions,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.solaris From: black@cs.uri.edu (John Black) Subject: Re: Unix close for 486 - commens requested Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:03:26 GMT It's possible to have too much machine. I'm sitting on a Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V that was purchased to run LynxOS. Its got a fancy VESA local bus, fast hard drive, zippy video card, and runs Windows 3.1 like greased lightning. It can't even load Lynx though, because...well, nobody really knows. If I cripple the machine by diabling cache, turbo, IDE block mode, etc., it will sometimes boot Lynx, but usually not. It's interesting (to me anyway...) that in the newly formed LynxOS mailing list where this issue has been discussed a bit no one has reported problems with plain vanilla ISA bus machines. Further, the June '93 issue of Byte magazine reported on "fast 486 machines" and their ability to run SCO UNIX -- several of them had problems similar to mine, and in at least one case the solution was to cripple the machine as I've had to do. In my case, a generic '486 would have been better than my whiz-bang clone-of-the-month special, at least for running something other than MS-DOS/Windows. John Black black@cs.uri.edu ------------------------------ From: rand@world.std.com (Randolph G Brown) Subject: Re: How can I setup timezone on linux?? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 17:47:45 GMT In article <24t4h0$4uk@sol.deakin.oz.au> ruffy@eros.cc.deakin.OZ.AU (Justin Rough) writes: >Alexander Lin (alec@linux1.net.ncu.edu.tw) wrote: > >: I want to setup timezone on my linux. >: Can anybody tell how?? >: Thanks.. > >For an SLS installation: > >Look for a directory /usr/lib/timezone or /usr/local/lib/timezone. >In the directory you should find a file called "time.doc". It will >tell you how to set up the timezone information. If you can't find >the files/directories, look in /install/installed and check to see >if you installed the timezone package. If you haven't, then you >better do so if you really want to succeed! > But if you don't have SLS? I did it by finding timesrc.tar.Z ? somewhere on nic.funet.fi, finding no docs, and dredging up what I had to do from my memory of an older SLS installation. Basically -- once you have the stuff in /usr/lib/zoneinfo or /usr/lib/timezone(?) then cd /usr/lib/zoneinfo ln your.time.zone localtime (e.g. ln US/Eastern localtime) ln your.time.zone posixrules (e.g. ln US/Eastern posixrules) run date & clock to set your CMOS clock and you're done. Note: the above may be wrong... I don't have the docs anymore, and I don't know if they're anywhere but but the SLS installation. -Randy ------------------------------ From: muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Subject: Re: SCSI Performance Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 06:00:20 GMT >> On Sun, 15 Aug 1993 09:37:36 GMT, hph@hphbbs.E.open.DE said: h> Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...14.020000 seconds h> Reading the file...35.060000 seconds h> IOZONE performance measurements: h> 598331 bytes/second for writing the file h> 239264 bytes/second for reading the file h> ------------------ 8< snip ... snip 8< ---------------------------------- h> The deficiency in reading the data really looks a bit h> dramatic. I hope the AHA-driver's author is reading here right h> now and will have a look to the driver-code, in order to h> improve this reasonably. The above comparision-chart can help h> to see what's normal for an AHA-1542B on an ISA-Bus. This (and the other) performance is incredibly low for SCSI I think. On ext2fs with simple IDE I get: Writing the 16 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'... 45.050000 seconds Reading the file...31.670000 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 372413 bytes/second for writing the file 529751 bytes/second for reading the file which is the same as the SCSI results. When I still used xiafs the numbers were even a bit higher (400/550 for r/w). I would expect almost 1MB/s with SCSI. -- _____________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands. ------------------------------ From: muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Subject: Why SIGFPE and core dump instead of NaN? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 06:02:30 GMT Many programs that get into overflow on most machines show 'NaN' in their output, as should be. But on Linux (0.99pl10) such programs terminate with an SIGFPE, alas. Can that be prevented, or is there a reason this behaviour is such? -- _____________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Subject: 0.99pl12: ext2fs unmount of root is no longer successful Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 22:18:54 GMT Hello, I just upgraded to 0.99pl12 from pl10. Now, when I reboot, my root filesystem (ext2fs) is no longer clean and is checked each time. In pl10 this was not the case. I use a shutdown which unmounts root filesystem. My other (ext2fs) partition is still clean. Has something changed in this respect? -- _______________________________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands. Disclaimer: This reflects the official opinions of my employer. ------------------------------ From: kalle@dg8lav.toppoint.de (Karlheinz Hagen) Subject: Re: Serial: My IRQ is 5 NOT 4! Change? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 20:34:34 GMT Greg Corteville (gcortevi@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote: : I purposely installed COM 3 on my system to have IRQ 5 so that I could use : COM 1 and COM 3 on my system at the same time without problems. However, : when Linux loads, it thinks its some kind of error and defaults to IRQ 4 : on COM 3. How can I force it to use IRQ 5? Use SETSERIAL Version 2.x. Linux can't install the serial ports at the boot-up. You will find setserial on all servers. (i hope so :-) Kalle -- * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * | Karlheinz Hagen, | IP-Addr: 44.130.5.11 | | Katenweg 8 | Email : kalle@dg8lav.toppoint.de | | 24867 Dannewerk | AmprNet: dg8lav%db0sef@db0hhn.ampr.org| ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: leslie@teton.rtp.dg.com (Scott Leslie) Subject: Re: [Q] Are WD IDE drives OK? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 18:18:25 GMT I have a WD Caviar hard drive (the 340MB) and I have not had any problems under DOS, Windows, OS/2, or Linux with it. Scott +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | Scott P Leslie | (919)248-5802 | | Data General Corporation | "God forbid while the sun is up!" | | leslie@dg-rtp.dg.com | -Frazier Crane | ------------------------------ From: crc@cacs.usl.edu (Rick Chow) Subject: Running Linux on Cyrix DLC-40 Local Bus System? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 15:05:24 GMT Does anyone have experience in using a Cyrix DLC-40 local bus system as a Linux box? Any compatibility problem? I am interested in buying one of those DLC-40s from Maximus, CA, USA. Any comments about this company? Thanks in advance! -- ____ |||||| WYPIWYG (What You Pay Is What You Get) O .. O Rick Chow \/ crc@cacs.usl.edu ------------------------------ From: kush@netcom.com (Aaron Kushner) Subject: Compiling Radiance on Linux. Need Help... Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:47:23 GMT I would appreciate any help and appologinze if this topic had been covered before, but I've been trying to compile Radiance for a couple of days now.. I've been trying to compile Greg Ward's Radiance program using Linux 99pl11 and GCC 2.4.3 and can't get working binaries. After reading all of the docs and tech notes, I'm pretty sure my problems are related to the Gnu compiler and linker. I've tried compiling the program with the -DBSD option set and I changed the Rmakefiles to include -I/usr/include/bsd and linked with -lbsd. Many files gave linking errors such as: _frexp not defined in text segment. I gather that there frexp, malloc and bcopy were redefined. How do I compile Radiance without going through and renaming all of the redefined library functions? Also, the file tty.c (in src/rt) has many SIG* statements that gave compilation errors (undefined statement error?). Thanks in advance for the help. -Aaron Kushner ------------------------------ From: msapp@sss.cba.ua.edu (Mark Sapp) Subject: Linux on an ESDI drive Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:50:55 GMT As awful as this may sound, I'd like to install Linux on a Model 60 that we have lying around at work. I have two questions ... First, can Linux run on an MCA machine ? The boot disk couldn't find the ethernet card, but instead identified three different sound cards...none of which are installed. Second, Linux's FDISK couldn't find any of the partitions on the machine, though I had set up three . I figured this may be due to the fact that the drives are ESDI. Would this be the case ? Thanks, Mark ------------------------------ From: jgordon@wam.umd.edu (Jeremy Joseph Gordon) Subject: Term limitation or easy Unix question? Date: 18 Aug 1993 19:19:43 GMT I am now donning my flame-retardant suit to ask this question.... suppose I have three users logged in over null-modem serial cables, and I have a 14.4 modem connected to my local school, I want to run term as root right before I run xdm on my console at startup so that any of my users can termtelent or termftp or termfinger to any machine in the universe... well my problem is that whoever runs the term daemon is the only person that can run a term client (like termtelnet, termftp etc...) I set the permissions on term like so (for now) a+rwxs, so its read write and excute and suid' for everybody.... any term client not run by the runners of the daemon gets a"Connect invalid argument:" error.... help! is this just a case of not setting the right permission, or something I missed in a readme of FAQ? please email any helpful (or commiserating) responses to jgordon@wam.umd.edu... these newsgroups are getting really big!! Thanks in advance... Jeremy Gordon jgordon@wam.umd.edu ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.linux,de.alt.bbs,alt.bbs From: kmw@ichtys.rni.sub.org (Karsten M. Winkovics) Subject: Anyone tried mbox? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 19:11:34 GMT Hello, netpeople! I^m looking for people who got mbox up and running on their Linux boxes. I managed to compile, but there are a few minor flaws I^d like to rid myself of: Mail (internal and uucp) seems to be screwed up. The calls to sendmail for aliasese etc. do work, but messages end up in nirwana.. or in my mailbox , with funny numbering... in fact all have the number -10737.. and are therefore quite inaccessible :) News works, but I cannot read certain newsgroups, though the hierarchy was explicitly put into mbox.h (NEWS_MININUM)... How have you handled new user logon?? [Sorry, fellow Linux-ers, but this refers mainly (2:3) to the implementation under Linux... ln -s /dev/flame/in.coming /dev/null , pls] Thanks for any hint, KW -- Karsten Winkovics {root,kmw}@ichtys.rni.sub.org Sysadmin at ICHTYS BBS , Mannheim, FR Germany ------------------------------ From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) Subject: Re: which Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 20:14:56 GMT Use this (under bash): which () { type -all -path $* | head -1 2> /dev/null } This does the trick, ignores aliases (i.e. always returns the real executable path if it is aliased), etc. The redirect of stderr to /dev/null eliminates any "broken pipe" messages caused by type being piped through head. If you need an executable, just make a shell script that uses this. I hope this helps. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help From: ss@JH.Org (Steve Steinberg) Subject: Syslog entries from remote hosts working? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 20:44:13 GMT My syslogd is working fine for messages from the local linux host, but I would like to log entries from some other hosts on my net. I am experimenting with a telebit netblazer which will log to my DEC box with no trouble, but when I direct the output to the linux box I get nothing! Syslog -d reports nothing coming from the netblazer as well. Is anyone else useing syslogd to log from other hosts? The Particulars: Linux 0.99pl10 Net-2 Thanks for your help, Steve -- ===================================================================== = Steve Steinberg = ss@JH.Org -or- ss@panix.com = (718) 262-6996 = = Sure, come on down, but we're in Jamaica, NY, not the Carribean! = ===== THE SPACE BELOW LEFT INTENTIONALLY BLANK ===== ------------------------------ From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: libc-4.4.2, where is it ? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 20:56:10 GMT H.J. Lu (hjl@nynexst.com) wrote: : In article <93229.024725K111114@ALIJKU11.BITNET>, writes: : |> please, can someone upload the libc-4.4.2 binaries to sunsite/tsx or funet? : |> : |> greetings, Herp : It is stilled under testing. Join the GCC channel if you want to use it. : Be prepared to compile it yourself. The first patch for 4.4.2 was released : last Sunday. This is well and good. But how does one join the GCC channel? It appears there is no way to get the pl12 kermel and tcp/ip stuff to get past the network unreachable message, even though I have added default routes, hosts hosts.conf, etc. I think I am properly set up, and owuld like to get tcp/ip working on SLS 1.03, so how does one join? :-) thanks. Joe Rosenfeld -- | Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu | CSU Law Library j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | "I thought I was dead. Then I found I was just using a | "PC and SweatyDOS. It was worse than dead!" | What Little Bill really meant to say ... ------------------------------ From: root@exodus.abg.sub.org (Michael Boesch) Subject: Searching for a LEX Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 12:28:36 GMT Hi, I'm seaching for a LEX for Linux (not a FLEX), so i also can use _normal_ LEX-Files with Linux, wich don't work with FLEX. Ciao Mike -- Michael Boesch root@exodus.abg.sub.org "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dice where they cannot be seen." (S. Hawking) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: tar & mt Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 21:17:21 GMT >In article <1993Aug17.232818.18231@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >> mt -f /dev/rmt0 fsf The Automatic Typo Generator at kf8nh.wariat.org strikes again! :-) :-( I used -f so I could say /dev/nrmt0... not sure where my fingers got what followed. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca ------------------------------ From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: SCSI Performance Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 20:41:59 GMT muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) writes: >>> On Sun, 15 Aug 1993 09:37:36 GMT, hph@hphbbs.E.open.DE said: > h> Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...14.020000 seconds > h> Reading the file...35.060000 seconds > h> IOZONE performance measurements: > h> 598331 bytes/second for writing the file > h> 239264 bytes/second for reading the file > h> The deficiency in reading the data really looks a bit > h> dramatic. I hope the AHA-driver's author is reading here right > h> now and will have a look to the driver-code, in order to > h> improve this reasonably. The above comparision-chart can help > h> to see what's normal for an AHA-1542B on an ISA-Bus. >This (and the other) performance is incredibly low for SCSI I think. >On ext2fs with simple IDE I get: > Writing the 16 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'... > 45.050000 seconds > Reading the file...31.670000 seconds > IOZONE performance measurements: > 372413 bytes/second for writing the file > 529751 bytes/second for reading the file >which is the same as the SCSI results. When I still used xiafs the >numbers were even a bit higher (400/550 for r/w). >I would expect almost 1MB/s with SCSI. I am also getting suspect low performance using a fast Quantum SCSI HD and an Adaptec 1542b on ISA 486 33Mhz. It doesn't seem to make sense. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ From: cyrus@virusdd.GUN.de (Ulrich Cyrus) Subject: Re: ISDN for Linux ??? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 17:43:12 GMT lp@shlink.hanse.de (Lutz Petersen) writes: > I'm interested in ISDN-support for linux too. Please post, if there > are any existing solutions. >-- Yes I am too!!! regards, Ulrich -- ===================================================================== Ulrich Cyrus Duisburg, FRG cyrus@virusdd.GUN.de Fliederstr. 169 +49-203-735154 ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************