From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 15 Aug 93 15:13:08 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #119 Linux-Activists Digest #119, Volume #6 Sun, 15 Aug 93 15:13:08 EDT Contents: Re: Xfree bug in Linux, or hardware problem??? (Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga) Re: lpd dies (SLS 1.03) (Mark Buckaway) Is IRC out there? (Jan Richert) Warning: old style IOCTL called! (Chris Schuermann) Can Kermit look like vt100? (Allen M. Ashley) How to set IRQ in Linux (Tobias Thompson) Re: TAMU.99p4 won't see BOCA 14.4 internal (Brandon S. Allbery) Re: where is dump? (Brandon S. Allbery) Compiling POV for Linux (Matthew West) FAQ (Paul Quinn) Problems compiling Xboard 2.1 pl11 (Szeto June) re: cc1 got signal 11 re: PC-NFS Re: SLS 1.03 no good ad for linux (Vaughan R. Pratt) traceroute does not work for me! (Jan Richert) Re: Filemarks on Cartridge Tapes (Archive 2525S) (Lupe Christoph) Re: What's the FASTEST FS? (Peter Mutsaers) Re: Why would I want LINUX? (Joe Rosenfeld) why Linux does not like SIGBUS Re: Linux FSP Sites? (Phil Richards) can't pos to c.o.l.a...grr [ANNOUNCE] wu/ftpd ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.windows.x.i386unix Subject: Re: Xfree bug in Linux, or hardware problem??? Date: 15 Aug 1993 08:21:21 -0400 In article "Alex R.N. Wetmore" writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.windows.x.i386unix: 15-Aug-93 Re: Xfree bug >in Linux, or .. by Paul J. Brewer@cco.calte >> I have the same difficulty. Our configurations are similar. >> >> In an xterm, scrolling or horizontal dragging caused the horizontal >> chips to pop up. I was using a clone Tseng labs et4000 card. > >I have similar problems with a tvga8900c (i am assuming that by chips >you mean that the windows echo when scrolling or dragging). It only This sounds like the cards are being run at too high a bus frequency. If you can alter your BIOS settings to slow down the bus it should go away. Many pc cards cannot run reliably at bus speeds over 8MHz (AT-clock). Followups redirected to comp.os.linux.help, although a hardware group is more appropriate. -- Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.edu ------------------------------ From: mark@datasoft.north.net (Mark Buckaway) Subject: Re: lpd dies (SLS 1.03) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 19:29:03 GMT totake@ho17.eng.ua.edu wrote: : Hi all, : I just installed SLS 1.03 and got most of it working except for lpd. : It is supposed be loaded when /etc/rc is run, and it is, but it dies : almost immediately and when running it manually it dies. I tried : to modify the /etc/printcap file and create symlinks (lp -> /dev/lp1) : but nothing works. Can anyone help me? I'm at the end of my resources : and the FAQ didn't help either. My system is: : 486DX2/66 w/ 20MB RAM : Panasonic KX-P2124 on LPT1 After upgrading from 0.99.9 to 0.99.10 I had the same problem, and only recently solved it. I have to move /etc/inet/services to /etc/services. It them functioned and stayed in memory. Mark -- Mark Buckaway mark@datasoft.north.net DataSoft Communications uunorth!datasoft!mark System Administrator ------------------------------ From: jrichert@krefcom.GUN.de (Jan Richert) Subject: Is IRC out there? Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 11:06:18 GMT Is an IRC client (binary?) for Linux out there yet? PLEASE REPLY BY MAIL I'll SUMMARIZE Thanks Jan -- Jan Richert (NIC-ID: JR482) | Internet: jrichert@krefcom.GUN.de Krefeld, FRG | Datex-J: 02151399843-0001 Voice: +49 2151 313124 | IRC-Nick: jrichert FAX: +49 2151 396479 | Data: +49 2151 396479 (12-20h MEDT) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: chris@a.cs.okstate.edu (Chris Schuermann) Subject: Warning: old style IOCTL called! Date: Sun, 15 Aug 93 13:17:48 GMT Upon execution of rc.net I get warning of "old style IOCTL called" from /etc/config. This is followed by messages about "nfsd cannot register service. RPC unable to send; errno = Network unreachable". I do NOT currently have any type of ethernet board installed, but would like to have the tcp/ip services available so that I can work on some socket code. I've upgraded a SLS distribution to PL10. Any attempt to use telnet/ping/ftp/etc results in "network unreachable". Any kind sole have some ideas for me? I'd sure appreciate someone telling me how much of a dummy I am :-) What other "packages" do I need to do serious socket development? I didn't see network-dev-support tools anywhere on sunsite... Thanx in advance. Chris Schuermann chris@a.cs.okstate.edu PS: I love linux! I use SCO every day at work, any in almost every way linux is superior! ------------------------------ From: ashley@cco.caltech.edu (Allen M. Ashley) Subject: Can Kermit look like vt100? Date: 15 Aug 1993 13:47:17 GMT Now that I know how to get kermit to use zmodem (thanks for the hint), the only other thing kermit needs is the ability to look like a vt100 terminal when in the connect mode. The keys in kermit are transparent by default. I have tried setting up my console as vt100 before entering kermit, but that doesn't affect the keys that are sent out. The set character-set command doesn't have a choice vt100, and the dec-international key set doesn't look like a vt100 terminal at the other end. Is there any way that the cursor keys on my keyboard can appear as vt100 terminals at the other end? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: odysee@csd.uu.se (Tobias Thompson) Subject: How to set IRQ in Linux Date: 15 Aug 93 15:20:44 GMT My problem is that I must have com1-3 in DOS/WINDOWS/Linux and have put my modem (COM3) at irq 5. Is there a simple solution or do I have to do some programming? Any advice is useful. Your T. odysee@meryl.csd.uu.se (if you wan't to mail) ------------------------------ From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: TAMU.99p4 won't see BOCA 14.4 internal Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 15:00:42 GMT In article <1993Aug8.035049.13316@citrus.SAC.CA.US> ianj@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Ian Justman ) writes: >You do not really need to worry about the printer port's interrupt since Linux >never uses it anyway. All SoundBlaster-supporting software uses IRQ7, though The current Linux parallel driver knows how to use the interrupt, but it has to be enabled. You need to get the lpirq package to enable it, or write your own program to use the LPSETIRQ ioctl. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org ------------------------------ From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: where is dump? Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 15:11:08 GMT In article imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh) writes: >In article <1993Aug14.225200.2231@kf8nh.wariat.org> >bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >>period, keeping track of what tape/dump level to use on what day is a bit of >>a problem, because days/weeks/months just don't fit into powers of 2 too well. > >That is what tape labels are for :-) Not in this case, the tape number bounces around too much and you have to know the entire sequence to figure which tape to use. I just marked the numbers in on a calendar. >Also, your tape limits assume that the entire backup will fit on one >tape, which may or may not be the case. It is the case for me since I Not exactly my limits, since the scheme came from the AT&T dump manpage (System III era). But you are correct, it requires that everything fit on one tape. >Anyway, gnu tar does do a good enough job for what I need it for. I >don't even bother with daily backups that are just deltas. I make a >full backup every day or three and every month or so make a level 0 >backup tape that I use to keep a snapshot of what I had so if I need >it later, I can go back to it. I wonder how things will work when I >have a year or twos worth of backups to deal with. I do weekly full backups with GNU cpio. GNU tar backups have one fatal flaw: the owner and group are apparently encoded in ASCII and looked up in /etc/passwd. If you ever need to restore your system from a backup from a bootable rootdisk, you lose your ownerships.... I didn't exactly get caught there, but the last upgrade of my SLS-based system (I may switch to MCC next time, since SLS remains un-upgradeable except by heroic measures) I restored a tape of my local changes while running from the a1 disk... everything ended up owned by root. grrr.... I don't bother with dailies at present, since all I have time to do on a daily bases is news and mail and neither needs to be backed up all that desperately. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org ------------------------------ From: mwest@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Matthew West) Crossposted-To: comp.graphics.help,comp.os.linux Subject: Compiling POV for Linux Date: 15 Aug 1993 07:33:37 GMT Has anyone successfully compiled POV for Linux (X version)? I had many problems with it, and would appreciate any pointers on problem fixes. Please reply by email. Thanks, Matt. ------------------------------ From: p_quinn@pavo.concordia.ca (Paul Quinn) Subject: FAQ Date: 15 Aug 93 17:17:00 GMT Can someone please send me the Linux FAQ in text format? Not TAR.Z. Just plain TXT. Maybe ZIP for compression purposes. I'm on VMS and I don't have TAR. Thanks --------------------------------------------------------- | Paul Quinn | | | p_quinn@pavo.concordia.ca | | | | System Architecture | | Concordia University | | | Montreal, Que | | --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: g2jszeto@cdf.toronto.edu (Szeto June) Subject: Problems compiling Xboard 2.1 pl11 Date: 14 Aug 93 20:58:21 GMT Hello, all. I've been dutifully trying to compile xboard using the gcc2.3.3 compiler and have been experiencing difficulties. Exciting output like the following results: >$ gmake >flex -t parser.l > parser.c >gcc -fwritable-strings -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -m486 -DNO_ASM -I/usr/X386/include -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -Dlinux -DFUNCPROTO=11 -DNARROWPROTO -DHAS_GETTIMEOFDAY -c parser.c -o parser.o >parser.l:1338: parse error before `1' >parser.l:1346: redefinition of `input' >parser.l:1094: `input' previously defined here >parser.l:1375: redefinition of `yyunput' >parser.l:1051: `yyunput' previously defined here >parser.l: In function `yyunput': >parser.l:1376: argument `ch' doesn't match prototype >parser.l:1376: argument `yytext' doesn't match prototype >gmake: *** [parser.o] Error 1 It seems that there's a problem in that flex generates an input function and a yyunput function, and parser.l contains its own versions of these functions which get included in the parser.c file. Now, I've tried making changes to rip out either copy of each function, and while I get an executable xboard program, it hangs right after it's run(the board comes up, and it just sits there: I can't play, I can't even select menu options). I've acquired and compiled gnuchess4.0p62, and it(gnuchess) compiled with no difficulties. My linux configuration is straight SLS (acquired about a month ago). Any help would be appreciated, Frustrated, June Szeto g2jszeto@cdf.toronto.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 18:58:29 CDT From: Subject: re: cc1 got signal 11 we've got similar problems here, also a: 'ld: not enough virtual memory'. and YES! the problem really was overheating the computer!!! because the disk got so hot, the contents of libg.a where screwed, and an entry there appeared very large 1888...0 bytes or such, and of course xmalloc() from ld would fail. we turned off the computer, and after it cooled down, tried to compile again. NO BUG! anymore. we will try to a) save the disk contents when it is cold b) get the disk to operating temperature c) format the disk again when it has reached operating temperature. d) restore the backup. probably that will help! greetings, Herp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 19:13:31 CDT From: Subject: re: PC-NFS saw the article about PC-NFS and want to make a comment: the software from the PC (idrive , idmount (idmnt?)) will ask the host for authentification. (has nothing to do with kerberos) but, when you have net-2 as is running, this will fail. you additionally have to get pcnfsd.c running on your machine. pcnfsd.c is available from ftp.vax.com (vax.ftp.com ?) , i forgot the directory. to make it compile with linux, you have to alter two lines: a) #include instead of pwd.h b) mkdir(pathname) has to be changed to mkdir(pathname,dir_more) put 'pcnfsd' somewhere in /rc/net or whereever you want it (no need to & it) regards, herp ------------------------------ From: pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) Subject: Re: SLS 1.03 no good ad for linux Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 17:21:54 GMT In article hal@cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks) writes: >In article <1993Aug11.160447.13115@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes: >>If these VIP's know what they're doing, they'll *insist* on this test >>being run as it was done, namely as a "pop quiz". There is a world of >>difference between an OS that has to be nursed to life by a tame guru >>and one that any idiot can just drop into a random machine with a >>reasonable (certainly >20%) expectation that it will come right up. > >IMHO, that's nonsense. VIP's don't want their time wasted watching >someone fumble with installing an unfamiliar package. And for that >matter, in the real world most end-users (i.e., idiots :-) aren't >even asked to configure their own DOS boxes, much less a Unix box. and >From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) >If you're looking for an O/S for idiots, I suspect you're came in the >wrong door. :-) True for now, but if Linux *remains* not-for-idiots, in the long run it will be left in the dust of its more idiot-forgiving competition, and Linux will become for-idiots-only by default, along with sundry masochists and nostalgia buffs. Slackware's painless installation is one step in the right direction. A Linux-or-better that you can drop into any computer as easily as today's easiest shrink-wrapped packages is most definitely worth keeping in mind as a long-term objective, even if it's impractical to make it one of this year's targets. -- Vaughan Pratt (FTPables: boole.stanford.edu:/pub/ABSTRACTS.) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: jrichert@krefcom.GUN.de (Jan Richert) Subject: traceroute does not work for me! Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 17:27:57 GMT Hi.. I just got traceroute for Linux from sunsite.unc.edu, patched my pl10 kernel with the supplied patches and tried traceroute smurf.sub.org the output is: traceroute to smurf.sub.org (192.101.75.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * smurf.sub.org (192.101.75.1) 3240 ms (ttl=69!) 4239 ms (ttl=69!) ..although smurf.sub.org is quite some hops away from me! Why aren't the hops in between displayed? Any ideas? PLEASE REPLY BY MAIL I'LL SUMMARIZE Thanks Jan -- Jan Richert (NIC-ID: JR482) | Internet: jrichert@krefcom.GUN.de Krefeld, FRG | Datex-J: 02151399843-0001 Voice: +49 2151 313124 | IRC-Nick: jrichert FAX: +49 2151 396479 | Data: +49 2151 396479 (12-20h MEDT) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.unix.xenix.sco From: lupe@alanya.isar.muc.de (Lupe Christoph) Subject: Re: Filemarks on Cartridge Tapes (Archive 2525S) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 17:35:18 GMT dan@dyndata.uucp (Dan Everhart) writes: >I remember being able to successfully append to 9-track tapes. Are >cartridge tapes fundamentally different, or is there something broken >or misconfigured in my drive? Am I overlooking something? >I try the following: >(foo and bar are files in the current directory) >$ tar cvf /dev/rmt0 foo >foo >(works fine) >$ tar uvf /dev/rmt0 bar >tar: can't write to /dev/rmt0 : I/O error >st0: Error on write filemark: >$ >The same thing happens if I use the 'r' flag for tar instead of 'u'. You cannot append to a QIC tape except at End-of-Media. Tar cannot do this because it means appending *after* a filemark. In essence you cannot overwrite a QIC tape. A QIC tape has an erase head that covers the entire width of the tape. On some drives you can overwrite on the first track, on others you may not be able to do this. >This is using a brand new Archive Viper 2525S drive, an Adaptec 1542B, >and a fresh installation of Linux from SLS 1.03. (Although I've seen >similar things happening under Xenix, and under DOS using gnu tar.) >I've also noticed the following: If I do a tar backup and then a >restore, all the files are restored fine but the tape transport >jiggles the tape a few times at the end, as if it were trying to read >another block but encountering an error. I would have expected it to >find an end-of-file mark and simply quit. >So is it possible to append to a tar archive on a cartridge? If you >have an Archive 2525 and can do this under Xenix, DOS, or Linux, I >would like to hear from you to compare notes. Write a new file by spacing to EOM or to the zillionth filemark. -- | lupe@alanya.isar.muc.de (private, German IN) | Disclaimer: | | ...!unido!ukw!lupe (company, German EUNet) | This is an unofficial | | suninfo!alanya!lupe (via Sun Germany) | opinion of Christoph & | | Joseph Weizenbaum is an AI program. | Imschweiler Consulting | ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin From: muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Subject: Re: What's the FASTEST FS? Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 17:32:18 GMT >> On Fri, 13 Aug 1993 02:15:49 GMT, dfox@hip-hop.suvl.ca.us (David >> Fox) said: DF> One thing I would like to see in SLS is a real etc/rc startup DF> procedure that runs e2fsck upon boot, and if the file system DF> gets modified by it, reboot. This is included in the bootutils package. It looks about like this: (fsck -A looks in /etc/fstab what type the filesystem is and wether to run e2fsck, xfsck etc.) # Check the integrity of all filesystems /etc/fsck -A -a # If there was a failure, drop into single-user mode. if [ $? -gt 1 ] ; then echo fsck failed. Please reboot. sh fi -- _____________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands. ------------------------------ From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: Why would I want LINUX? Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 18:31:08 GMT Nan Zou (nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu) wrote: : >>I know that LINUX is UNIX operating system for PC's, but unfortunately : >>it can't run my DOS base programs (i.e., Borland C++ compilier, Amipro, : >>games, Mktools, etc...). : [...] : >Games? There's plenty of good games floating around the network that run : >under X-Windows. : I agree with the other things you said but I can't agree with this one. : Games under Unix/X11 suck raw eggs. The day I delete my DOS partition : is the day I can get X-Wing, Prince of Persia II and Wing Commander for : Linux/X11. I want to know if you have ever seen SimCity on CD-ROM for OpenWin on the Sun. Very impressive. I suspect more games may appear on the near horizon, but this is just a feeling. Can the DOS emulator run DOS packet-driver driven tcp/ip software. This would be great. Cowboy -- | Joe Rosenfeld cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu | CSU Law Library j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | "I thought I was dead. Then I found I was just using a | "PC and SweatyDOS. It was worse than dead!" | What Little Bill really meant to say ... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 20:43:02 CDT From: Subject: why Linux does not like SIGBUS hi. try the following small programm: > main() { > long *l; > int c; > printf("&c = %.8X\n",&c); > l=&c; > *l=12345; > } what will happen ? on Linux, nothing. on Sparc, you will get a SIGBUS. SIGBUS is the signal which reports improper alignment of data to the process, i.e, a long has to be aligned on (how many??) 4 or 8 byte boundary. the 386/486 CPU does! have an option to enable alignment checking, this is set in the CPU-flags, it is the AC bit. the reason, why one would like to do alignment checking is the speed of load operations, loading a long on a non byte boundary takes additional memory cycles. I'm curious if Linux does alignment checking too? (can someone answer this?), and just has no SIGBUS, or if it does no a.c., then I'd be interested how many apps. would die :-) a very quick and dirty fix I use for the SIGBUS is to say: -DSIGBUS=SIGKILL when compiling sources. (i try have sources unmodified...) regards, herp ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: pgr@sst.icl.co.uk (Phil Richards) Subject: Re: Linux FSP Sites? Reply-To: pgr@sst.icl.co.uk (Phil Richards) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 18:13:18 GMT [cross-posted to comp.os.linux.help; followups redirected there too] In <24iom7$94p@center.stack.urc.tue.nl>, Jim Rump writes: > INGRAM LEEDY (gil@beach.cis.ufl.edu) wrote: > : Does anyone know of any of the FSP sites for downloading Linux? [...] > : Ingram Leedy > Try ftp.stack.urc.tue.nl 21 > or: 131.155.140.128 21 There are also: US (no connection limit, unlike ftp to it...): wuarchive.wustl.edu:21 /mirrors/linux Turkey (for SLS): ftp.bilkent.edu.tr:21 /pub/Linux There may be more, but offhand I can't remember :-} pihl -- For more information on FSP either mail me, or read the FAQ for alt.comp.fsp in news.answers... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 21:03:43 CDT From: Subject: can't pos to c.o.l.a...grr [ANNOUNCE] wu/ftpd hi, i recieved a fix for an error for wu-ftpd. some clients had problems recieving the full buffer size, which then produced an "Illegal seek" in the server side. This is now fixed, thanks to Barry Titmarsh I have tested the fix with the Macintosh, where I got the error before. Right, it wasn't there anymore. There are, however, still errors. When using NCSA/cutcp on the client side, the data-transfer isn't even initiated. (Using a Sparc as client did work). I'm not perfectly sure if this is an tcp protocol-error ... (or not yet implemented ip-optins ?) The other way, using Linux as client and NCSA/cutcp as server did work. (Yes this is possible, try the ALT-T key when logged into somewhere, you can ftp to your own PC...) I have put the source on the host/directory/file wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at /pub/linux/ports/wu-ftpd-2.1a.tar.gz (dated Aug-15, 18:32) Please report back when you find bugs. If no-one find bugs, i will put the port on tsx or nic.funet, and let it register in the software list (lsm) greetings, Herp (ircadmin@irc.uni-linz.ac.at / herp@wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at) PS: don't forget to alter src/pathnames.h, since this only reflects my private configuration. you might instead want to use the standard /etc ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************