From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 22:13:10 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #110 Linux-Activists Digest #110, Volume #6 Fri, 13 Aug 93 22:13:10 EDT Contents: color xterm gives errors with its ioctls (Chris Royle) Re: Unix close for 486 - commens requested (Richard M. Mathews) Re: Mac only a toy! (Andreas Fatum) Re: Bug in bash 1.12 - not! (Michael Will) Re: Why would I want LINUX? (Nan Zou) Where is the source? (matthew carruth) Where is the source? (matthew carruth) Re: A Word Processor for Linux (Brandon S. Allbery) Re: A Word Processor for Linux (Brandon S. Allbery) Re: A Proposed Approach to a Linux WYSIWYG Word Processor (Brandon S. Allbery) Re: A Word Processor for Linux (Byron A Jeff) Re: What's the FASTEST FS? (Howlin' Bob) Re: A Word Processor for Linux (Byron A Jeff) Re: INFO NEEDED ABOUT LINUX ON LAPTOP (Philip Gladstone) Re: Few Things! ("Peter R. Humphrey") Re: NetBSD's ash as /bin/sh substitute on Linux (Kevin Brown) Re: Hardware requirements (accsah@vaxa.hofstra.edu) SLS 1.03 --- During the install, it asks for disk S2? What's up? (Robert Maltas) eisa support ... (Chris Pelligrini) Linux Satellites (Cheapest Linux Hardware Configuration) (Byron A Jeff) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c@royle.org (Chris Royle) Subject: color xterm gives errors with its ioctls Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 18:25:44 GMT Thanks to all the people who responded to my previous query, however I have another query. It was suggested that this was an X-installation fault, so I wiped off my complete X distribution and reinstalled it. Color Xterm still failed. Perhaps someone could send me owner and group listings for all of the relevant /dev entries ? Thanks. Chris. -- Chris Royle Cheap mail & news feeds over UUCP from UKP5/mo Managing Director Windows / X-Windows code, 386s from UKP540 Objectronix Limited Desktop publishing Leeds, UK Tel. +44 532 661536 ------------------------------ From: richard@astro.West.Sun.COM (Richard M. Mathews) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.solaris Subject: Re: Unix close for 486 - commens requested Date: 13 Aug 93 18:48:07 GMT steve@hacker.uucp (Stephen Youndt) writes: >> Consensys V 4.2 >> Dell Unix System V Release 4 >> Interactive Unix >> SCO Open Desktop >> UnixWare >> NeXTStep for Intell Processors >> Solaris for x86 >> >>Check it out... >> >>Thom.McCarty@asu.edu >Better yet, pick up a copy of the FAQ on the same subject. It discusses >all these and more in great detail. > ftp.uu.net:/usenet/comp.unix.sysv386/PC-clone_UNIX_Software_Buyer_s_Guide.Z The above copy of the file is way out of date -- it is from January. The August version can be found in ftp.uu.net:usenet/news.answers/pc-unix/software.Z Also, it is not true that it "discusses all these... in detail." All it says about Interactive Unix is that it is SVR3 and that the FAQ's author considers it uninteresting. All it says about Solaris 2.1 is that it is "just released." All it says about NeXTStep is that it is "scheduled for beta release in 4th quarter '92." Richard M. Mathews Freedom for Lithuania richard@West.Sun.COM Laisve! ------------------------------ From: ace@acelab.ruhr.de (Andreas Fatum) Subject: Re: Mac only a toy! Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 22:57:21 GMT In <1993Aug12.220101.9055@nicmad.uucp> robinson@nicmad.uucp (Dennis Robinson - Summer Intern) writes: >Hello Mac and PC Clone Worlds, [tons of shit deleted] >Just my suggestions. Don't flame me either You bloody idiot use up 65 lines in this newsgroup to tell us how much you love your f*cking mac? Guess you should get your hands on ELIZA, if this is available for mac. It will listen to you. -- Andreas Fatum InterNet: ace@acelab.ruhr.de ACELAB-BBS postmaster@re.open.de +49-2368-56585 SubNet : ace@acelab.ruhr.sub.org 2400-16800, 24h ------------------------------ From: michaelw@desaster.hanse.de (Michael Will) Subject: Re: Bug in bash 1.12 - not! Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 22:13:02 GMT bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >*Variable* expansion takes place in double quotes. Globbing, whether against >files or against case expressions (*except* *in* *bash*), does not. Try: >$ echo "/*" >It had better respond with >/* $ echo "/*" /* $ bash -version GNU bash, version 1.12.4 Cheers, Michael Will -- Michael Will Linux - share and enjoy :-) Life is not there if you can't share it... Hazel'O'Connor Breaking Glass Happily using Linux 0.99p12 with X11R5, \LaTeX, cnews/nn/uucp and: PGP! >>> Ask for Linux and / or pgp-Information <<< ------------------------------ From: nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou) Subject: Re: Why would I want LINUX? Date: 13 Aug 1993 17:06:26 -0500 pfau@coffee.enet.dec.com (Thomas Pfau) writes: >rozum@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Stephen Rozum) writes... >>I have a simple question to all those who use LINUX. >> >> *** Why should I want to use LINUX? ** >Ever want to do two things at once? Ever want to get some REAL work done >while a file transfer goes on in the background? This is the MAIN reason >why I'm running linux. [...] >>I know that LINUX is UNIX operating system for PC's, but unfortunately >>it can't run my DOS base programs (i.e., Borland C++ compilier, Amipro, >>games, Mktools, etc...). [...] >Games? There's plenty of good games floating around the network that run >under X-Windows. I agree with the other things you said but I can't agree with this one. Games under Unix/X11 suck raw eggs. The day I delete my DOS partition is the day I can get X-Wing, Prince of Persia II and Wing Commander for Linux/X11. >For word processing, there's TeX. It's not WYSIWYG but it could probably >do anything Ami-Pro can do if you take the time to learn it. On the >other hand, you can load linux *and* DOS to your hard disk and boot into >DOS/Windows if you want to use Ami-Pro. I use TeX (actually LaTeX) too, but I don't think having the choice of WYSIWYGs would hurt, some people actually prefer that. >I don't know what Mktools is so I can't comment there. He probably meant MKS Tools. It's a DOS package that gives you Unix- like utilities like cp, mv, grep, vi, etc. and sells for $300. ;-) -- Nan ------------------------------ From: carruth@mksol.dseg.ti.com (matthew carruth) Subject: Where is the source? Date: 13 Aug 93 21:07:19 GMT Where is an ftp site for the source and other materials for linux? -Matt Carruth -- All views expressed herein are my own and not those of my employer. If anybody will pay me for my opinion, then please let me know. ------------------------------ From: carruth@mksol.dseg.ti.com (matthew carruth) Subject: Where is the source? Date: 13 Aug 93 21:08:20 GMT Where is an ftp site for linux? -Matt Carruth -- All views expressed herein are my own and not those of my employer. If anybody will pay me for my opinion, then please let me know. ------------------------------ From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: A Word Processor for Linux Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 22:20:46 GMT In article <24glm2$m40@nic.umass.edu> verdant@twain.ucs.umass.edu writes: >Is there any reason to write the proposed Word Processor as a stand-alone >program. I say this because, from what little I have seen of emacs, it seems >to be a very flexible basic editor with a lot of potential for expansion. We had this flamewar last time :-( Emacs is just too big and has too much baggage. I even suggested starting with a cut-down emacs and was rejected. I think it's safe to say that this is a no-go. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org ------------------------------ From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: A Word Processor for Linux Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 22:22:21 GMT In article <24gsf6$m6j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bc151@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ken Fisler) writes: >> the front end to it that most people don't like, if there was a >> WYSIWIG word processor that used TeX as its engine and gave you >> acess to the TeX source, and the ability to EDIT the document in >> preview mode (not just view), have short cut keys and pull down >> menus would both camps be happy ? > >However, if TeX is so great, why not have a couple or more >front-ends for it, one for ordinary writing, one for It's been tried --- check out VorTeX. It doesn't work too well in practice, unfortunately. TeX doesn't finalize a page until it's formatted most of the next page, which complicates things enormously. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org ------------------------------ From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: A Proposed Approach to a Linux WYSIWYG Word Processor Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 22:25:18 GMT In article pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes: >Well, well, perhaps a way to make *both* happy exists: the Interviews >editor is a full WYSISWYG word processor, *and* is is object oriented >(it is entirely written as a set of C++ classes, and text/graphics is >represented as a graph of objects). We discussed this in the last c.o.l word processor discussion. Interviews has one glaring fault: it's designed on the assumption that infinite disk space, RAM, and CPU cycles are available. The current design we're looking at uses much of the same structure as Interviews but assumes it will run on a much more modest system. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org ------------------------------ From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) Subject: Re: A Word Processor for Linux Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 23:27:17 GMT In article <24glm2$m40@nic.umass.edu>, Sol Lightman wrote: > >Is there any reason to write the proposed Word Processor as a stand-alone >program. I say this because, from what little I have seen of emacs, it seems >to be a very flexible basic editor with a lot of potential for expansion. Yes. Any WP system that's built on top of another system will have to carry all the baggage of the system it's built upon. A WP is heavily used enough and important enough to a system to require it to be built from scratch. However any devlopment tools designed for building applications (like ObjectBuilder and tcl/Tk) would be muchly helpful in the process of building the application. > >Perhaps it would be better to write the WP as a set of advanced functions for >emacs and interfaces between emacs and other packages, like teX and graphics >interace packages (curses, etc.) > >Just a thought from a Linux newbie... Better to design and write from scratch. That way you can develop an application with its own personal set of problems. ;-) ;-) ;-) BAJ > >Brian > >-- >The University of Massachusetts at Amherst | _________,^-. >Cannabis Reform Coalition ( | ) ,> >S.A.O. Box #2 \|/ { >415 Student Union Building `-^-' ? ) >UMASS, Amherst MA 01003 verdant@twain.ucs.umass.edu |____________ `--~ ; > \_,-__/ >* To find out about our on-line library, mail a message with the >* pattern "{{{readme}}}" contained IN THE SUBJECT LINE. >* You will be mailed instructions; your message will be otherwise ignored --- Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of... Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel! Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu ------------------------------ From: gt8134b@prism.gatech.EDU (Howlin' Bob) Subject: Re: What's the FASTEST FS? Date: 13 Aug 93 23:33:47 GMT In dfox@hip-hop.suvl.ca.us (David Fox) writes: >Its use of frags can be disoncerting to some; primarily, after a rather >long time in use, the filesystem degrades to the point where holy small files >can be put on the system. For exaple, even if df shows something like 3 megs >free, one can't write a 3 meg file - one can only write smaller files totalling >3 megs. >One thing I would like to see in SLS is a real etc/rc startup procedure that >runs e2fsck upon boot, and if the file system gets modified by it, reboot. Stephen Tweedie has (almost) put together such a package for ext2fs. it didn't quite work out of the box for me, but it might for you. It includes a modified mount and some example code to put in your /etc/rc. You need a shutdown/reboot that unmount all your partitions upon shutdown, and a kernel that can handle "unmounting" the root partition (which really means re-mounting it read-only). You also need to have LILO or rdev make sure the kernel boots with your root partition read-only. 0.99pl10 and pl11 can handle all this, I think. The end result is that proper shutdowns set the "clean" flag of the ext2fs. Crashes do not. When you boot, /etc/rc invokes e2fsck, which notices that the clean flag is not set, and does its magic. When it's done, /etc/rc remounts your root writeable, mounts all the other filesystems, and continues. There's really no need to reboot, unless I'm missing something. A read-only filesystem is quiescent, so there's no danger of conflict between e2fsck and the kernel. Remounting the filesystem should make sure the kernel and disk images of the filesystem stay in sync. I do hope SLS incorporates this functionality. Oh, by the way, the package is called bootutils-0.1.tar.z (or something like that) and can be found on the major archives. -- Robert Sanders Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt8134b Internet: gt8134b@prism.gatech.edu ------------------------------ From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) Subject: Re: A Word Processor for Linux Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 23:38:20 GMT In article <24gsf6$m6j@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, Ken Fisler wrote: > >After a lot of flames and loyalty oaths on the topic of word >processors for Linux, Ewen Macdonald (ewenm@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU) >finally said what I was hoping someone would say: > >> Seems to me this argument always ends up being irrelevant to >> Linux. Its not a comparison of current word processors that is >> important to Linux. No one questions the power of TeX. Its just >> the front end to it that most people don't like, if there was a >> WYSIWIG word processor that used TeX as its engine and gave you >> acess to the TeX source, and the ability to EDIT the document in >> preview mode (not just view), have short cut keys and pull down >> menus would both camps be happy ? > >Bravo! I'm new to Linux, but shortly I'll be buying a new >computer and would like to move up and out of the DOS world. I'm >considering Linux and, as ordinary writing (not typesetting) is >my main function, the availability of a near- or pure-WYSIWYG is >about #1 in my list of concerns. If moving to Linux means trying >to compose on something using EDLIN-style front-end-- even if >it's 'better'-- then I'll stay with WordStar on DOS. > >However, if TeX is so great, why not have a couple or more >front-ends for it, one for ordinary writing, one for >spreadsheets, another for drawing, and others for communications, >database, typesetting, writing/editing source code and pics, >sound, video and whatever. If all such applications could write >to the same file, you would have the kind of true >interoperability most users are seeking in WindHose. (Of course, >this set of projects would require the source code to TeX; is it >PD-available? Like I said, I'm new here.) > >I await your kind and informative responses. I proffered this suggestion myself about a week ago. However someone posted something that was even more interesting: object based format. What I got from it is that a document will be kept as a collection on objects. The user can manipulate the objects using some kind of front end and some back end tools can convert the object collection into whatever format you want: TeX, PS, SMGL, whatever. Imagine a set of linked objects with one object per paragraph for example. If you can to change the font of the paragraph just send a font change message (or method call) with the font to change to and BOOF! the whole paragraph changes it font. Moving stuff around is as simple as changing the linkages between the objects. If you move text from one place to another the object where the text was gets a delete message and the object where the text is to go gets an insert message. You can have text objects, image objects, spreadsheet objects, what have you. It's a totally cool concept (wish I'd though of it myself). There's a WORD channel that folks can join. I haven't yet because I can't afford to get involved in it right now. PhD work you know. Later, BAJ --- Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of... Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel! Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu ------------------------------ From: philip@charon.citicorp.com (Philip Gladstone) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.laptops Subject: Re: INFO NEEDED ABOUT LINUX ON LAPTOP Date: 13 Aug 1993 20:27:06 -0400 Reply-To: Philip.Gladstone@mail.citicorp.com Raymond Chen (raymondc@microsoft.com) wrote: : Note that Linux is not APM-aware, which means that if some power-management : features kicks in (e.g., hard disk spins down due to inactivity) while you're : running Linux, your machine is toast. On the Gateway NOMAD, this does not seem to happen. However, the initial boot disk did suffer from this problem, so I guess that there are some driver differences. I'm running SLS 1.03 if that helps. Philip -- Philip Gladstone - Consultant Citicorp Global Information Network I don't speak for Citicorp. I presume that somebody else does! ------------------------------ From: prh@essence.demon.co.uk ("Peter R. Humphrey") Subject: Re: Few Things! Reply-To: prh@essence.demon.co.uk Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 10:57:40 +0000 In article rfs@world.std.com (Rikk F Streng) writes: > Telltale signs are the "adduser is outdated" or something when I try to > add a user and some of the menus are "not available". Use "useradd" instead of "adduser". Some of my menus also are unavailable, so I don't use them. In other words, everything looks normal here ;-) > 2. I have a Cirrus Logic 5426 video card. Is there a way I can find out > HOW to get XWindows working? I have no idea how even to EDIT a file with > vi (I tried a million times!) and the config has to be changed. What can > I set it to? Don't use vi; use joe. I can't help you with the settings though. > 3. MSDos Emulator - I have .99 something. What can this version do? I > really want to run a BBS in the Emulator, can I? Don't know. Good luck! -- Rgds Peter Humphrey | prh@essence.demon.co.uk | Voice 0932-343158 Woking, UK. | | Data 0932-353948 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell From: kevin@frobozz.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) Subject: Re: NetBSD's ash as /bin/sh substitute on Linux Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 07:46:09 GMT In article <24bucm$43@adv.win.tue.nl> devet@adv.win.tue.nl (Arjan de Vet) writes: >In article , >Sunando Sen wrote: >>I was told the latest ash can be found sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu in the >>directory /pub/NetBSD-current/src/bin/sh. I have picked up a copy and >>have managed to compile it. It seems to handle the `configure' scripts that >>come with most GNU packages without problems; which is about the most I will >>ever need, since I am very unlikely to write a shell script myself that will >>really test the capability of a shell. For example, ksh had trouble with >>the configure scripts of gzip and shellutils-1.8 (it produced spurious >>quotes in the makefile for gzip and completely hung during running the >>configure script of the shellutils package). But ash had no problem at >>all. The executable is about 64k, which is smaller than ksh. Hope this >>helps. >> >>Sincerely, >> >>Sunando Sen > >Sunando send me his sources and I must say this version of ash works quite >well under Linux after using Sunando's new Makefile (the original Makefile >was absolutely unusable under Linux). You need Berkeley's "pmake" to use the supplied makefile. I ported pmake to System V a while back, so it wasn't a problem for me... >It runs indeed configure scripts very well except it cannot do `cd .' :-) Interesting. I hadn't tried that...:-) >It has however some serious bug (I think): many shell scripts from INN and >smail use commands in backquotes (`date`). When running these scripts from >the command line, they work fine, but when run from crond they hang at the >first `...` command, consuming 100% CPU time. This is also the case for >/etc/rc scripts. I started using debugging traces but haven't been able >yet to find the problem. I found *something* that behaved like this very quickly: I sic'ed C-news on ash. :-) C-news has this wonderful ability to expose the bugs in any Bourne-style shell you care to name. :-) >When this bug has been fixed, ash will be a good (and small: 66K) /bin/sh >substitute for Linux. Indeed. I wonder if it's the only bug, though. Probably not... Does *anyone* know where there's a comprehensive test suite for Bourne- compatible shells? >Arjan de Vet (home) >Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands (work) -- Kevin Brown kevin@frobozz.sccsi.com This is your .signature virus: < begin 644 .signature (9V]T8VAA(0K0z end > This is your .signature virus on drugs: <> Any questions? ------------------------------ From: accsah@vaxa.hofstra.edu Subject: Re: Hardware requirements Date: 13 Aug 93 20:37:23 EST In article <1993Aug11.171606.9845@orac.DIALix.oz.au>, andrew@orac.DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Lighten) writes: > I do nothing that requires dazzling performance, so I'd hope that > my 8mb 386DX40 should do the job. Yes, that should be adequate. I don't run X myself, but 8 meg, and a swap file of about 16 or so megs will do. > I've got a 120mb drive, btw. I can't decide whether to go for a new > CD-ROM drive and the Linux CD then later buy the 424mb HD I'm lusting > after, or get the HD first and install Linux from floppy. > Get the 424 meg drive if you are interested in developing things for Linux. 120meg is more than adequate, if you don't run X. :-) ================================================================================ Steven Henry | Electrical Engineering | Linux - The internet operating system accsah@vaxc.hofstra.edu | egg2sah@vaxc.hofstra.edu | Information is power. Power is information. ================================================================================ ******** DEATH TO THE CLIPPER PROJECT ******* ================================================================================ ------------------------------ From: rmaltas@koko.csustan.edu (Robert Maltas) Subject: SLS 1.03 --- During the install, it asks for disk S2? What's up? Date: Sat, 14 Aug 93 01:48:35 GMT Robert Maltas ------------------------------ From: chrisp@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Chris Pelligrini) Subject: eisa support ... Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 01:08:58 GMT I was wondering if anyone has had sucess running linux using an eisa based motherboard and controllers (adaptec 1740/1742 or 32 bit ethernet). thanx chrisp -- Chris Pellegrini | Voice : (801) 594-6384 UNISYS Corporation | Fax : (801) 594-6708 Lab : (801) 594-4170 322 N Sperry Way, MS D1V03 | email : chrisp@unislc.slc.unisys.com Salt Lake City, UT 84116. | -or- squik@IRC ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) Subject: Linux Satellites (Cheapest Linux Hardware Configuration) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 01:49:50 GMT [ I'm starting a policy of cross-posting to c.o.l and the appropriate new newsgroup with the followup to the new newsgroup. It gives initial visibility but directs the discussion to the appropriate news group. ] I'm enjoying Linux so much that I'm starting to think about having more machines at home. The kiddies need one and it would be kinda nice to have a machine downstairs where I won't seem like such a hermit to my wife and kids ;-) To that end I'm wondering what would be the least expensive usable hardware configuration. This is what I'd like to be able to run: - Linux (obviously) - X windows - Networking/NFS NFS is important I think because I'd like to have my machine be a central server and other machines be clients. So I throw out the challenge: What is the least expensive configuration that'll do what I want. Here is my first crack at it (I almost forgot the video! ;-): $100.00 - 33 Mhz 386sx motherboard $120.00 - 4 MB of memory - Net bought of course ;-) $115.00 - 14 inch mono VGA monitors $ 80.00 - 40 Meg IDE drive - remember most of the software will be NFSed. $ 40.00 - Case and power supply - This is a cheat. A local dealer is getting rid of some large AT size cases with 200 W PS. $ 35.00 - Generic VGA card - only running the monochrome server. $ 30.00 - Ethernet Card - Buy 3 on the special offer floating on the net. $ 25.00 - 101 key keyboard $ 20.00 - Multi IDE card - 1 parallel - 2 serial - 2 IDE ======= $565.00 + Tax or shipping. What do you think? Of course for $45 more I can get a 40 Mhz 386 motherboard with 128K cache. Has anyone done this. With the relatively minicule cost of PC hardware and the wonderfullness of Linux I don't see why some folks don't have a machine in every room of their house ;-) Later, BAJ --- Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of... Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel! Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************