From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 01:13:23 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #104 Linux-Activists Digest #104, Volume #6 Fri, 13 Aug 93 01:13:23 EDT Contents: Fix for Dosemu0.49 (Joshua P. Weage) Re: SLS 1.03 network related bug, complete hang (nichols@ttd.teradyne.com) Re: oops, I broke the link for /lib/libc.so.4 (Ole Tange) Xconfig -- Need some assistance please (Paul Cardwell) Re: Why would I want LINUX? (Sandy Knapp) X hanging with net-2 SLIP (Alvin Garcia) UUCP/TCP Feeds not working... (sysadmin@ids.net) Please make netmask patches available (Was: Re: ...) (Frank Lofaro) Re: Dosemu compiling problem (Mark Cosham) Re: NetBSD's ash as /bin/sh substitute on Linux (Oleg Kibirev) Re: INFO NEEDED ABOUT LINUX ON LAPTOP (J-F Pitot de La Beaujardiere) Re: Alpha pl12 Problems Report (Rene COUGNENC) Re: Alpha pl12 Problems Report (Rene COUGNENC) Re: IrisGL/OpenGL for Linux (Matthew Hannigan) 99p12 - sudden crashs lately... (Michael Will) Re: ISDN for Linux ??? (Matthias Urlichs) Re: Is this becoming comp.linux.advocacy? (Keith Smith) Re: Xconfig -- Need some assistance please (Zack Evans) Re: emacs 19.18 patches for Linux wanted (Terry Evans) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cs890@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joshua P. Weage) Subject: Fix for Dosemu0.49 Date: 13 Aug 1993 02:26:07 GMT Someone asked me how I got doseum to compile just delete the -lipc switch from the makefile. Then follow the directions in the info-1 doc file. Josh -- ================================================================= - Joshua Weage : U.S. Snail - 277 Spring Rd, Baroda, MI 49101 - - E-Mail: cs890@freenet-in-a.cwru.edu | ai900@yfn.ysu.edu - - Opinions are my own ( But may not be well informed :-< ) - ------------------------------ From: nichols@ttd.teradyne.com Subject: Re: SLS 1.03 network related bug, complete hang Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 21:33:52 GMT In article <1993Aug06.092435.19691@donau.et.tudelft.nl>, etstjan@dutepp2.et.tudelft.nl (Jan van Oorschot) writes: > > Hi, > > Well, i seem to be number xxxxx in having hangup problems when > running the SLS 1.3 distribution. I'll try to make this as complete > as possible, so the developers may find something in here: > I don't know if this is your problem or not, but there is a problem in the rc.net startup file with SLS 1.3. Specifically, the "route" command no longer supports the device parameter. I found this with the SLS test release, because my system locked up shortly after booting. By *properly* calling route, my system lived. All I had to do was remove the $IPDEV parameter from the first two route calls, and the "lo" parameter from the last one. ALSO: There are bugs in the kernel file route.c. I've sent some early, minor changes to Ross Biro and Fred N. van Kempen (are these still the right people? Did you get them?). I've gone further, though and made some major changes to handle non-octet netmasks (our netmask here is 255.255.252.0), and also to fix some other routing problems. Who gets these? Ross and Fred? Good hunting, Rick -- Richard D. Nichols Phone: (708) 940-9000 Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Div. Fax: (708) 940-0344 1405 Lake Cook Road Email: nichols@ttd.teradyne.com Deerfield, IL 60015 ------------------------------ From: tange@daimi.aau.dk (Ole Tange) Subject: Re: oops, I broke the link for /lib/libc.so.4 Date: 13 Aug 1993 01:30:30 GMT Thus spake robert@Everest.Tandem.COM (Robert Gadbois): >I think I've got real problems. I was installing image-4.4.tar.z when >I inadvertently changed the link for /lib/libc... to nowwhere. Now my machine >is very unhappy. Every command I try complains about not finding this library. >Is there anything I can do about this? Or is it back to reinstalling the >SLS time. Actually, moveing to a more current SLS might be a bigger win >for me to get SLIP going anyway. >Justonemorepersonouttherelearningthehardway >rlg He he, join the club of people that have removed their link! But what is the correct way to install that libc? -- -- Never (NEVER) run elm and rmail simultanously tange@daimi.aau.dk ------------------------------ From: arcardw@indsvax1.indstate.edu (Paul Cardwell) Subject: Xconfig -- Need some assistance please Reply-To: arcardw@indsvax1.indstate.edu Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 02:10:34 GMT All, I am trying to get X-Windows to work in 1024x768 (256 colors). It works to a point, but the screen is offset to the left side (about 2 inches) and I cannot move it over to the right with monitor contols. I have a Commodore 1960 multiscan monitor. Here are the specs for the Monitor: RESOLUTIONS: 1024x768 (can be interlaced) 800x600 720x400 640x480 640x350 COMPATIBILITY: 8514/A VGA Super VGA SYNCRONIZATION HORIZONTAL: 31.5/35.5 KHz VERTICAL: 50 ~ 87 Hz BANDWIDTH: 45MHz DOT PITCH: .28mm (?needed info?) I want 1024x768 non-interlaced and 800x600 configurations, but since I do not quite understand the VideoModes.doc, could someone help me here? It would be a great help and to the fact I will be showing Linux (hehe) to ISU's Director of Computer Resources and faculty (?nervous -- a tiny bit). Paul .___________________________________________________________________________. | Arc Wave, real life: Paul Cardwell | INet Address: arc@judy.indstate.edu | |----------\\-----//--------------------------------------------------------| | ---- \\\^ ^/// "Amiga, the wild side of power computing." ---- | | ----- \\|.|// Amiga,OS/2,Unix,C Programmer ----- | `------------\\-//----------------------------------------------------------' ------------------------------ From: akingdom@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Sandy Knapp) Subject: Re: Why would I want LINUX? Date: 13 Aug 1993 02:13:06 GMT Stephen Rozum (rozum@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM) wrote: : I have a simple question to all those who use LINUX. : *** Why should I want to use LINUX? ** Actually there is only one reason to use Linux. The name. Linus himself told us that. ------------------------------ From: alvin@atlantis.rutgers.edu (Alvin Garcia) Subject: X hanging with net-2 SLIP Date: 13 Aug 93 02:54:11 GMT I'm running linux 0.99pl11 with net-2 stuff and Xfree 1.3. I'm able to get a SLIP connection up and running and it works fine. I can also run X and telnet into a remote machine, and then run remote X applications on my local (linux) X server. This works fine most of the time, but then sometimes when I'm trying to run an X application off the remote machine, my server will hang. I can't even exit the server with the CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE. I've found no pattern as to when my system will hang. I can run Xgas and Xneko remotely, and sometimes even Matlab. However, sometimes my server will hang while receiving large volumes of data (I can see my modem's RD data blinking). Also, when I exit X and return to text mode, the characters are all messed up. Thanks for any suggestions. Alvin ------------------------------ From: sysadmin@ids.net Subject: UUCP/TCP Feeds not working... Date: 12 Aug 93 23:15:00 EST Had anybody here gotten UUCP over TCP/IP feeds working? Whenever I have a site try to telnet into the UUTCP port (540), it accepts their username, but as soon as it displays "Password:" it then imidiately exits before you can even type anything or press enter. I check the log and it just says "BAD LOGIN" and that's it. Anyone have any clues? Andy, green@ids.net ------------------------------ From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) Subject: Please make netmask patches available (Was: Re: ...) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 02:50:02 GMT If you have patches to allow "non-standard" (i.e. with field values that are not either 0 or 255) netmasks, please post or make them available for upload, or send them to the current TCP/IP developers (but you still might want to make an alpha version available for those that need it now). P.S. I don't think Ross Biro is with Linux TCP/IP anymore. I'm not sure who is. From what I heard, net-2 is still a little rough around the edges, this is because it is so new, but it should end up being better than net-1 was, since it is a new start. P.P.S. Can we have net-2 renamed? It sounds that "other" net-2, from BSD... P.P.P.S. what does linux do if one uses a strange netmask? Panic? Hang? Route packets wrong? (possibly treating it as a class A, B, or C)? ------------------------------ From: inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Cosham) Subject: Re: Dosemu compiling problem Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 02:52:01 GMT ctran@unl.edu (cuong tran) writes: >Hi out there. I have a problem compiling the dosemulator on my >linux. I keep on getting " tex: not a command " . Do I have to >have this command somewhere? Cause I don't have it anywhere on >my machine. It is just compiling the document part and I really >don't really care about this part of it. But I did try to do a >make on the subdirectory doc/ but the Makefile doesn't compile. >If anyone out there have any suggestions on how I can get this >to compile, I will be forever grateful. And any other suggestion >how to start up the dosemualtor is appreciated. >Thanks >Cuong If you read the documentation, it says that you can only make the documents if you have tex. It also has instructions on how to read the documents if you don't have tex. (I don't) Mark Cosham -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ===========> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=========== Mark Cosham Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia cosham@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: NetBSD's ash as /bin/sh substitute on Linux From: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev) Date: 12 Aug 93 19:49:56 In article <24bucm$43@adv.win.tue.nl> devet@adv.win.tue.nl (Arjan de Vet) writes: In article , Sunando Sen wrote: >I was told the latest ash can be found sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu in the >directory /pub/NetBSD-current/src/bin/sh. I have picked up a copy and >have managed to compile it. It seems to handle the `configure' scripts that >come with most GNU packages without problems; which is about the most I will >ever need, since I am very unlikely to write a shell script myself that will >really test the capability of a shell. For example, ksh had trouble with >the configure scripts of gzip and shellutils-1.8 (it produced spurious >quotes in the makefile for gzip and completely hung during running the >configure script of the shellutils package). But ash had no problem at >all. The executable is about 64k, which is smaller than ksh. Hope this >helps. > >Sincerely, > >Sunando Sen Sunando send me his sources and I must say this version of ash works quite well under Linux after using Sunando's new Makefile (the original Makefile was absolutely unusable under Linux). It runs indeed configure scripts very well except it cannot do `cd .' :-) It has however some serious bug (I think): many shell scripts from INN and smail use commands in backquotes (`date`). When running these scripts from the command line, they work fine, but when run from crond they hang at the first `...` command, consuming 100% CPU time. This is also the case for /etc/rc scripts. I started using debugging traces but haven't been able yet to find the problem. Apparently this happens only under Linux: $ cat > t #!/bin/sh pwd cd . pwd set `date` echo $1 $ chmod 755 t $ t /usr/home/oleg /usr/home/oleg Thu $ When this bug has been fixed, ash will be a good (and small: 66K) /bin/sh substitute for Linux. I'm at home now but tomorrow I'll try the find out who the current maintainers of NetBSD's ash are so I can report the bug. -- Oleg ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.sys.laptops From: jdlb@kukui.ifa.hawaii.edu (J-F Pitot de La Beaujardiere) Subject: Re: INFO NEEDED ABOUT LINUX ON LAPTOP Reply-To: jdlb@ifa.hawaii.edu Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 03:13:49 GMT raymondc@microsoft.com (Raymond Chen) writes: > Note that Linux is not APM-aware, which means that if some power-management > features kicks in (e.g., hard disk spins down due to inactivity) while you're > running Linux, your machine is toast. Not true! I have Linux running on a Compaq Contura 4/25, and there are no problems with the power management. If the hard disk spins down, you get a diagnostic message ("Unexpected hard drive interrupt") but no problems occur. The message can be compiled out of the kernel or directed to an unused VC. Even the hibernate feature, which saves memory to disk and powers down the machine, works with Linux (though I do a 'sync' first). I have tried hibernating in the midst of X Windows, and return as advertised right were I left off. The only management issue on my laptop is how I can manage to pare down all those MS Windows applications, drivers, fonts, .INIs and .PIFs to achieve a bare-bones installation while still maintaining compatibility in an emergency. --Jeff P.S. The Contura is the only notebook I have seen with the ~` key (a Unix essential) near the 1, instead of next to the !@#$%^&* space bar. % J-F de La Beaujardiere % jdlb@ifa.hawaii.edu % % Institute for Astronomy % 808-956-9843 % % University of Hawai`i % fax 956-9402 % ------------------------------ From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC) Subject: Re: Alpha pl12 Problems Report Date: 13 Aug 1993 00:07:16 +0200 Ce brave Marc G Fournier ecrit: > rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC) writes: > the net-2 code in pl12 Alpha is supposedly a little more > 'strict' in how you do things. If you add an extra 'route add' to your > rc.net, it works fine: > ie: > route add 'network' (on my machine, network is 198.133.36.0) > route add default gw 'gateway-machine' (on my machine, 198.133.36.1) Has the code for route.c in NET-2 been modified...? The one I have is: * Version: @(#)route.c 1.04 05/27/93 * * Author: Fred N. van Kempen, */ -- linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux ------------------------------ From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC) Subject: Re: Alpha pl12 Problems Report Date: 13 Aug 1993 00:09:26 +0200 Ce brave Paul Gortmaker ecrit: > As for your SCSI and Serial probs, well... They are solved (for me), the code is full of debugging stuff, and my post was mostly to inform the people working on it that, whith my configuration, I fall trough a default case never seen before.. But the code works OK. -- linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linux ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.graphics.opengl From: matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) Subject: Re: IrisGL/OpenGL for Linux Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 03:43:35 GMT tabaer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Troy A. Baer) writes: >A while back somebody mentioned a GL workalike project called "freeGL" or >something like that, and said there was a mailing list for it. After >checking both archie and the list of mailing-lists at rtfm.mit.edu, >I can't find anything about it. Does anyone have any information on >this project, or at least have a contact for it? That was me. I just assumed it would be on the lists of lists. I am actually on the mailing list, but I can't find any saved messages. If you try the newsgroup devoted to opengl (comp.graphics.opengl), they might be able to help you. In fact I've cross-posted this to help you. Good luck, -Matt ------------------------------ From: michaelw@desaster.hanse.de (Michael Will) Subject: 99p12 - sudden crashs lately... Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 16:56:02 GMT I have had some sudden crash with 99p12-Alpha lately. I am mostly logged into my machine via a vt100-terminal attached to the serial-port, and lately, sometimes when I wrote/read news/mail the machine stood still. Due to the screen-saver I did not see the cause, so I turned it off, and oh wonder, there was no kernelpanic-message nor anything... Now, when I left it alone for an hour, there was a message on the screen Aug 12 16:55:08 (none): --MARK-- this was there twice, and "last" reveiled that there was noone logged into my machine, so it must have come from within... I have the scsi-diagnostics-routines compiled into the kernel as offered by the make config. How can I track down this problem? Cheers, Michael Will -- Michael Will Linux - share and enjoy :-) Life is not there if you can't share it... Hazel'O'Connor Breaking Glass Happily using Linux 0.99p12 with X11R5, \LaTeX, cnews/nn/uucp and: PGP! >>> Ask for Linux and / or pgp-Information <<< ------------------------------ From: urlichs@smurfnbg.smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs) Subject: Re: ISDN for Linux ??? Date: 12 Aug 1993 21:12:03 +0200 In comp.os.linux, article <1993Aug2.161113.2084@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de>, andy@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de (Andreas Busse) writes: > > A couple of weeks ago there was a discussion about > ISDN support for Linux, and Matthias Urlichs > wrote me that he's working on that. True. ISDN work is continuing. (I moved, and since my machine is/was a UUCP network backbone I'm spending too much time keeping the net alive...) > Unfortunally, this adress seems to be invalid now... No, just a temporary problem. Should be fixed by now. > Is someone working on ISDN for Linux or has an idea how > I can contact Matthias Urlichs ? > Send mail again. If all else fails, post to de.comm.isdn (for everybody else, this is a German-language newsgroup about (surprise!) ISDN.) -- Matthias Urlichs -- urlichs@smurf.sub.org -- Phone: NONE; use email or lose. Schleiermacherstrasse 12 -- 90491 Nuernberg -- Germany || Linux+Mac Consulting ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.os.linux.misc From: keith@ksmith.com (Keith Smith) Subject: Re: Is this becoming comp.linux.advocacy? Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 03:46:17 GMT In article <24dsas$il7@upsun1.up.edu> steve@up.edu (Steve Ward) writes: >hardware. If each UnixWare box can support 4 or 5 DOS/Windows sessions >over the net, and I convert all my PCs to UnixWare (an unlikely event, I'll Hehehehe. 4 or 5 Merge sessions on a single PC say a 486/66 huh. No problem as long as noone is _doing_ anything. -- Keith Smith keith@ksmith.com 5719 Archer Rd. Digital Designs BBS 1-919-423-4216 Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201 Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ... ------------------------------ From: zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zack Evans) Subject: Re: Xconfig -- Need some assistance please Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 04:30:58 GMT In article , Paul Cardwell wrote: > I am trying to get X-Windows to work in 1024x768 (256 colors). It works >to a point, but the screen is offset to the left side (about 2 inches) and I >cannot move it over to the right with monitor contols. Well that's actually pretty easy to fix I think; you just have to change the middle two numbers of the horizontal data (ie the first set of four numbers). To move the display left decrease them, to move it right increase them. To move it two inches will take quite a big change though. Zack -- Zack Evans pyc081@cent1.lancs.ac.uk or zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu (Internet) pyc081@uk.ac.lancs.cent1 (JANET) Watch yer bass bins lads, I'm tellin' yer... ------------------------------ From: tevans%sunset.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Terry Evans) Subject: Re: emacs 19.18 patches for Linux wanted Date: 12 Aug 93 22:37:39 MDT Thomas Dunbar (tdunbar@vtaix.cc.vt.edu) wrote: : >Does anybody have patches to het Emacs 19.18 compiling. This version : >fixes a lot of the bugs, but does not compile out of the BOX. I tried : >the suggestions somebody posted yesterday, but they were not enough. : >To be more precise: : > : > fixes mentioned on news: : > : > . include in buffer.c : > . define HAVE_FREXP in floatsfns.c : > . undef CTOR_LIST in emacs.c : i posted those fixes..but you've changed one!! : i said to include "usr/src/linux/include/linux/limits.h" : not : look at the source (buffer.c and the limits.h files). : those patches ARE enough, for my setup at anyrate (gcc 2.4.5, libc : 4.4.1, kernel .99.12) FYI, I just installed SLS 1.03 and grabbed emacs-19.18 from off of the net. With that setup I had to do the following: After running the configure command: remove the -lipc from the Makefile I commented out the line CTOR_LIST in src/emacs.c /* Maybe better to undef it as above? */ #define HAVE_MKDIR and #define HAVE_RMDIR in src/sysdep.c (I think that was the file) #define HAVE_FREXP in src/floatfns.c (again as above) run make It will puke when xmakefile in the src directory tries to link in -lipc again. So, remove the -lipc from xmakefile and it should be just fine now. (I hope that's all of them.) Terry Evans tevans@cs.utah.edu ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************