Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #624
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Wed, 17 Aug 94 23:13:09 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #624, Volume #2                Wed, 17 Aug 94 23:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Term 2.03: Could not install properly as normal user! (Andrew Kin Kei Cheung)
  Re: WANTED: Supplier of PC clone for Linux.... (Michael Will)
  biff for linux? (G. Browning)
  Gettin wksh w/o Motif (Lenny Turetsky)
  NCR 77C32BLT (Genoa Hornet) Support? (DahlinSmithWhite)
  Re: Installing Slackware Professional CD-Rom from Mitsumi... (Dan Marner)
  Re: FAX software available? (Simon J. Gerraty)
  pdksh-4.9 fix for linux (Simon J. Gerraty)
  Linux on Winbook DX2/50 & DX4/75 (Zack T. Smith)
  Re: APC refuses to give out info without NDA (Sridhar Kodela)
  Novell interfacing experience?  Anyone using samba? (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
  Re: Installing Slackware Professional CD-Rom from Mitsumi... (Eric Schenk)
  Re: Linux Inside T-Shirts (Pete Deuel)
  Re: System Admin Shell? (Jay Mottern)
  Re: MCA SCSI Adapters for Linux? (Dennis Willson)
  Trying again--What Is iBCS?!? (Mike Jagdis)
  Re: Linux Inside T-Shirts (Pete Deuel)

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From: akc0077@tamsun.tamu.edu (Andrew Kin Kei Cheung)
Subject: Term 2.03: Could not install properly as normal user!
Date: 17 Aug 1994 12:19:58 -0500

Hi all,

        I have ftp'ed the term-2.0.3 and installed on my 486 box, it 
was installed without a hitch. However, I could not install the software
properly on the campus' sun machines. The machine I tried runs SunOS, and 
I am a not the root of that machine. The following is the output after I
issued the './configure --user' and 'make installnet installman' commands: 


======================================================================
akc0077@tamsun:~/term200> ./configure --user
term configured to build on sun and install in /tamu/Cr/akc0077

  Note that if you want to test the binaries before doing a full
  install, you may need to run "make install-shlib" first as root
  so that they are able to find the correct dynamic libraries.

akc0077@tamsun:~/term200>  make installnet installman
rm -f /tamu/Cr/akc0077/term/libtermnet.so.2.00
cp libtermnet.so.2.00 /tamu/Cr/akc0077/term
mkdir /tamu/Cr/akc0077/bin 
cd /tamu/Cr/akc0077/bin; for i in term trsh tupload txconn tredir tudpredir tm\
        mv $i $i.old ; \
done
mv: term: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: trsh: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: tupload: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: txconn: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: tredir: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: tudpredir: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: tmon: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: tshutdown: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: linecheck: Cannot access: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1 (ignored)
for i in term trsh tupload txconn tredir tudpredir tmon tshutdown linecheck; d\
        cp $i /tamu/Cr/akc0077/bin ; \
        strip /tamu/Cr/akc0077/bin/$i ; \
        chmod 755 /tamu/Cr/akc0077/bin/$i ;\
done
mkdir /tamu/Cr/akc0077/term
mkdir: /tamu/Cr/akc0077/term: File exists
*** Error code 1 (ignored)
echo "# This file activates full term networking" > /tamu/Cr/akc0077/term/termt
sh: /tamu/Cr/akc0077/term/termnet: Not a directory
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `installnet'
============================================================================

Could somebody kind enough to tell me what should I do to fix the problem?

Thanks a lot!!!!


Andrew Cheung

akc0077@tamsun.tamu.edu


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,biz.comp.hardware,biz.comp.services,biz.comp.software,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: michaelw@desaster.student.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Supplier of PC clone for Linux....
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 19:40:02 GMT

bealar@ndlc.occ.uky.edu (Andy Beal) writes:
>:         * Specialise in Linux/GNU/Xfree86 software (including MS-DOS/Windows).

>Umm, if you find one, tell me.  I am almost 99% sure that no vendors 
>specialize in Linux.  The best you may get is a technician that has ran 
>Linux.  
Well I would do if I had the time besides my studies, at least for germany.
If some ppl are interested, please let me know.

Cheers, Michael Will
-- 
. .         Michael Will <michaelw@desaster.student.uni-tuebingen.de> 
 .      cs-student in Tuebingen, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar-System, [...]
<HR><A HREF="http://wsiserv.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/~will/index.html">Info</A>

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From: gbrownin@sun1.iusb.indiana.edu (G. Browning)
Subject: biff for linux?
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 16:32:36 GMT

Will there be a port of biff for linux?

Just incase some of you do not know what biff is:
 biff turns mail notification on or off for the terminal ses-
     sion.   With no arguments, biff displays the current notifi-
     cation status for the terminal.

     If notification is allowed, the terminal rings the bell  and
     displays the header and the first few lines of each arriving
     mail message.  biff operates asynchronously.

Thanks




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From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Gettin wksh w/o Motif
Date: 17 Aug 1994 19:11:20 GMT

Is it possible to get a compiled version of wksh (the Windowing Korn 
Shell) w/o getting motif? Can anyone tell me where to get one?

Thanks,
LT

--
   _____________________________________________________________________
 /|                                                                     |
| | There are only two organizations that I know of that send armed     |
| | men in dark suits and sunglasses to take money they haven't earned: |
| | the mafia and the government.                   -- Lenny Turetsky   |
| |                                                                     |
| | Lenny Turetsky (aka) lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu                  |
| |_____________________________________________________________________|
|/_____________________________________________________________________/


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From: dswi@xmission.com (DahlinSmithWhite)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: NCR 77C32BLT (Genoa Hornet) Support?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 13:36:07 -0600

[Sorry to cross-post to so many groups, but the people who can 
answer this seem to be few and far between. Hopefully one of them
will read one of these groups.]

I just bought a Genoa Hornet VLB (NCR 77C32 chipset) video card, and I see
that XFree86 does not yet support it. There is support for previous
versions of the chipset (the NCR 77C22), but not this one. So, a few
questions: 

- has anyone gotten XFree86 (under Linux) to work with this video
  board, or with this chipset? Is is compatible with any of the generic 
  drivers (SVGA or VGA16), or some other chipset?

- who does the driver development? Is this something that anyone
  can get involved in, or is it only the X people? Has development of a
  driver been started (so as to not duplicate efforts)?

- where can I get information on developing drivers for X-windows?

- I've talked to the people at NCR, and they are willing to 
  "license" source code to me of their drivers. However, I'm sure
  they wouldn't get too excited about the GNU license. So, do most
  of the X drivers get done from scratch? NCR will provide me with 
  all the documentation I need, so it shouldn't be too difficult
  to develop a driver. What kind of information do I need to get
  from them? From Genoa?

Any pointers and/or tips will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Pete.
pete@dswi.com


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From: dmarner@mis.nu.edu (Dan Marner)
Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Professional CD-Rom from Mitsumi...
Date: 17 Aug 1994 11:20:56 -0700

In article <rasquin.28.001F5BD8@crpcu.lu>,
Rasquin Jean-Pierre <rasquin@crpcu.lu> wrote:

>I have is that my Mitsumi (connected to a Soundblaster) is set up at defaults 
>(340h, IRQ10) but the included bootdisk looks for it at 300h, IRQ11 ?  

At the LILO boot prompt, enter "linux mcd=0x340,11" and then the
CD-ROM should be recognized. After installation, you will want to
either make LILO always use these parameters, or rebuild the kernel
with the new port and IRQ.

I chose the latter technique. "make config" doesn't ask the
appropriate question for that, so I had to find the right file and
tweak it. That file is "/usr/include/linux/mcd.h", if memory serves
(I'm on a SVR4 machine right now, so can't look it up). Note that I
am no kernel hacker, so I may have ovelooked an easier way to deal
with this. It works for me, though.                     -- Dan


-- 
Dan Marner                             dmarner@mis.nu.edu
Network Weasel                         Finger for PGP 2.6 key including the
National University                    words "GMAAAEEAK", "god" and "JAAUUR"

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: sjg@zen.void.oz.au (Simon J. Gerraty)
Subject: Re: FAX software available?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 22:56:21 GMT

lrk@netcom.com (Lyn R. Kennedy) writes:
>In article <32ohit$9qa@news.panix.com>, Wayne Berke <berke@panix.com> wrote:
>>I am considering a PD UNIX and one of the factors in my choice will be
>>what kind of FAX software (not necessarily free) there will be available.

>Flexfax is under 'ports' on FreeBSD sites.
>It's 2.2 which won't handle some Class2 modem chips. (ROCKWELL 144DP for
>one)

I've used mgetty+sendfax on NetBSD.  It was pretty simple to install
and worked well, except that the fax modem stuffs the page turnaround
conversation with the other end.  Note that this has nothing to do
with the fax software on the computer - its all supposed to be done by
the modem (ROCKWELL chipset again).  I never got around to asking my
modem vendor for a firmware update...

sendfax is pretty simple but well suited to use from shell scripts
like mailer interfaces or print queues.  Some other fax s/w
packages I looked at, tried to do everything and did not allow sharing
the fax modem for fax/data calls.

--sjg
-- 
Simon J. Gerraty        <sjg@zen.void.oz.au>

#include <disclaimer>   /* imagine something _very_ witty here */

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: sjg@zen.void.oz.au (Simon J. Gerraty)
Subject: pdksh-4.9 fix for linux
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 11:06:33 GMT

Several Linux users have reported this recently, so this might help.

Basically you will note that file re-direction puts Nuls at the start
of the file...

Please apply the following patch and add -DNO_FSEEK_FLUSH to your
compile options:

*** /tmp/pdksh/sh/io.c  Tue Mar 22 08:16:44 1994
--- io.c        Wed May 18 18:02:07 1994
***************
*** 122,129 ****
        int fd;
  {
        if (shf[fd] != NULL) {
! #if !defined(__386BSD__) && !defined(_BSDI)
!               /* Chris Torek's stdio replacement */
                fseek(shf[fd], 0L, 1); /* V7 derived */
  #endif
                fflush(shf[fd]);        /* standard C */
--- 133,145 ----
        int fd;
  {
        if (shf[fd] != NULL) {
! #if !defined(_FSTDIO) && !defined(NO_FSEEK_FLUSH)
!               /*
!                * Chris Torek's stdio replacement
!                * This removed because ksh added nulls at 
!                * the start of files used for redirection.
!                * Interestingly, this now breaks on SunOS 4.1.3 too.
!                */
                fseek(shf[fd], 0L, 1); /* V7 derived */
  #endif
                fflush(shf[fd]);        /* standard C */
-- 
Simon J. Gerraty        <sjg@zen.void.oz.au>

#include <disclaimer>   /* imagine something _very_ witty here */

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux
From: zack@netcom.com (Zack T. Smith)
Subject: Linux on Winbook DX2/50 & DX4/75
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 20:47:48 GMT

Hi,

Has anyone gotten Linux to run on either of these Winbook laptops? I'd love to
just order up a DX4 for myself, but without knowing as to compatibility, well,
I simply can't take the risk. BTW, if anyone has in fact gotten Linux to run
without major problems, is there any provision in the current version of 
XFree86 for using the special capabilities of the Western Digital RocketChip 
graphics accelerator that's used in the Winbooks? Also, what's the overall
performance like?

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Zack T. Smith
Creator of MacShell(tm) - the C Shell for the Mac
Email me if you'd like a demo copy.

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd
From: kodela@netcom.com (Sridhar Kodela)
Subject: Re: APC refuses to give out info without NDA
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 20:02:44 GMT

Hi gang,
        on a related note, i saw a UPS unit (Model 700 1.2 KVA) from SOLA the 
other day. Their installation and operations manual has all the smart mode 
protocol specs in it. It also gave the cable pin outs(UPS side). It uses DB9
 connector to talk to the PC. I have no idea about the pricing.  One of the 
pages also has a note that says

 If you are writing your own software to interface with the UPS the preferred 
mode to use is computer mode.

        I guess they encourage if you want to write your own software. 

If anybody is interested here are the phone numbers,

        Ph:(708)439-2800        fax: (708)439-1160
           (800)289-7652             (800)626-6269

Remember, 
        i got no interest in that company and i am not liable for any 
decisions you make depending on this info.

have fun,
cheers
sridhar kodela
kodela@netcom.com

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From: zaphod@teleport.com (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Novell interfacing experience?  Anyone using samba?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 12:56:13 -0700

If anyone has any good or bad experiences attempting to network up with
novell, can you please give me any words of advice?  I have this linux
package called samba that does interfacing to novell.  Does anyone have
this installed in their system?

Any and all comments are appreciated.  Thanx in advance!

ken waletzki
zaphod@teleport.com
-- 
zaphod@teleport.COM

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From: schenk@cs.toronto.edu (Eric Schenk)
Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Professional CD-Rom from Mitsumi...
Date: 17 Aug 94 20:22:16 GMT

dmarner@mis.nu.edu (Dan Marner) writes:
>In article <rasquin.28.001F5BD8@crpcu.lu>,
>Rasquin Jean-Pierre <rasquin@crpcu.lu> wrote:

>>I have is that my Mitsumi (connected to a Soundblaster) is set up at defaults 
>>(340h, IRQ10) but the included bootdisk looks for it at 300h, IRQ11 ?  

>At the LILO boot prompt, enter "linux mcd=0x340,11" and then the
>CD-ROM should be recognized. After installation, you will want to
>either make LILO always use these parameters, or rebuild the kernel
>with the new port and IRQ.

>I chose the latter technique. "make config" doesn't ask the
>appropriate question for that, so I had to find the right file and
>tweak it. That file is "/usr/include/linux/mcd.h", if memory serves
>(I'm on a SVR4 machine right now, so can't look it up). Note that I
>am no kernel hacker, so I may have ovelooked an easier way to deal
>with this. It works for me, though.                     -- Dan

I already mailed this, but since this advice has appeared twice now
I thought I'd put my 2 cents in.

If you are using a CD-ROM hooked up to a sound blaster you want
the sbpcd kernel, which is configured to look for a CD-ROM hooked
up to a sound blaster card.  The Mutsumi kernel looks for a Mitsumi
controler card, which is not the same thing.

[Having made the same mistake myself last week]

-- eric

===========================================================================
Eric Schenk                                           schenk@cs.toronto.edu
Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto

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From: deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Pete Deuel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Linux Inside T-Shirts
Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:46:25 GMT

MATTHEW TIPPETT (9208033h@levels.unisa.edu.au) wrote:
: In article <3209jj$mi8@classic.iinet.com.au>, jpchia@iinet.com.au (Jean-Paul Chia) writes:
: > Hello....
: > Who would be interested in a Black/White Short/Long T-Shirt, with the
: > 'Linux Inside' logo, printed in Red. A large one accross the back, and
: > one small badge sized on the top left corner on the front. :)
: > If anyone is, then mail me.. I'm just seeing if it is worth looking into
: > the idea. :)

: Just as an aside, if you look carefully at the Linux Inside Logo, on the
: inside part of the loop, you can see some white pixels, in the solid area.
: This came from the (R) registered trademark from intel....

: Have a look at a 'intel inside' logo for what I mean..

: Be careful... You might be opening yourself to something nasty...

Agreed, especially if you ripped off the logo.  I think it'd be cool to have
a logo, and also a shirt, but even if the logo wasn't ripped off, I would still
object to the lack of creativity in the slogan...

Perhaps this thread should turn into  an idea swap/voting on an apt slogan!
(Sorry!  I can't think of one right yet!)


Pete
========================================================
     "Actually, I'm just a lab mouse on stilts..."

        E-mail: deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
======================================================

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From: shamus@eskimo.com (Jay Mottern)
Subject: Re: System Admin Shell?
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 18:14:38 GMT

In article <32he1cINNt63@life.ai.mit.edu>,
The Kaoman <kao@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote:
>Are there any System Administration shells avaiable for Linux, such as
the
>ones avaiable in other brands (SCO for example).  If so, where may I
FTP
>these from?  I've looked through sunsite, and haven't found any ... am
I 
>just not looking in the right place?
>
>Thanks in adnvance .. and reply via email if possible
>the kaoman
>kao@gnu.ai.mit.edu
>
>
 
 
Me too, please.
-- 
===================================================
     shamus@eskimo.com          (Jay Mottern)
===================================================
         [Insert Standard Disclaimer Here]

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From: dwillson@pcwizard.almaden.ibm.com (Dennis Willson)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: MCA SCSI Adapters for Linux?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:18:43 GMT
Reply-To: dwillson@almaden.ibm.com (Dennis Willson)

In <32pork$i6l@galaxy.ucr.edu>, grif@corsa.ucr.edu (Michael Griffith) writes:
>There is no functional difference between a "channel" and a "local
>buss [sic]".  Also, there is no foundation for the concept of needing
>both a slow bus and a fast bus.  In a well designed architecture, slow
>devices can easily be accomodated on a fast bus.
>
>The most popular reason that systems have multiple system buses is to
>backward compatibility with older devices.  VLB is the modern example
>of this, but it has happened many times before in the workstation,
>and minicomputer arenas.

Traditional Local buss systems were (are in the case of VLB are) tailored to
specific PROCESSOR address and data line architecture. It usually runs at the
same clock speed as the processor, The buss drivers are fast but can't handle
very much load as this would slow the buss down with propagation delays. This
is why most local busses only have a couple of slots. Intelligent (buss master)
type cards to not typically go on a local buss as there are no arbitration
lines just the processors direct control lines (as in really local to the
processor). I realize that the NEW and IMPROVED local busses have added some
extra abitration and other generalization.... which actually makes them less
of a local buss.

Channels typically have large powerful drivers, run at a fixed (slower) clock
rate, and have fixed data access period with wait states (on traditional DIRECT
local busses wait states are very Undesirable).

While it is true that slow devices can be "accomodated" on a fast buss, things
like buss master LAN cards (a slow device) printers (an even slower device)
should be on a Channel like buss while the operating system and paging harddisk
and the video monitor should be on the local (or fast buss). System memory
must be accessable from both busses. This allows the Buss master LAN adaptor
to say share the printer without taking buss time away from the cad program
trying to update the video display. Only ONE device can be on the buss at a
time... Slower devices are usually on the buss longer forcing fast devices to
wait. Yes, I know about buss time slicing but all that does is keep one device
from totally locking out everyone else, if there is a lot of buss traffic the
faster devices still wait. I makes a lot of sense to put a fast buss  and a
channel on workstations and fileservers. (I could be convenced otherwise on
some if not most home use computers).

In a multi-tasking and/or multi-processor system a dual buss architecture with
a local (fast) buss and a channel can do more work and give more throughput
then a single buss system.

I must also say I believe that the "new" local buss systems are more of a
fast buss then a true local buss. The VLB is much more of a local buss
than the PCI which is almost a fast mini-channel. True or Traditional local
busses would be much more expensive as machines advance and microprocessor
architectures change. As all the adaptor cards would have to be redone for
each new microprocessor design.

Dennis


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From: jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk (Mike Jagdis)
Subject: Trying again--What Is iBCS?!?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 22:48:00 +0000

* In message <1994Aug15.182249.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>,
  gvacano@eagle.wesleyan.edu said:

gg> Please, what is iBCS? If it is a software package, what's
gg> the package called and how can I obtain it?

iBCS is a standard, or set of standards, which underlies x86 derivations of 
Unix. Naturally there is more than one version of iBCS and naturally many 
Unix vendors have extended their versions of the One True Unix in different 
ways...

  More to the point iBCS is a loadable kernel module for Linux which allows 
you to run binaries compiled for commercial x86 Unix implementations (and 
which even emulates the non-standard extensions). It can be found on 
tsx-11.mit.edu under /pub/linux/ALPHA/ibcs2.

  Contrary to what some people seem to believe, it is *not* SCO 
compatibility. It is SCO, Wyse V/386, ISC, SVR3, DELL, Unixware, SVR4 etc. 
compatibility :-).

                                Mike  
 

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From: deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Pete Deuel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Linux Inside T-Shirts
Date: 17 Aug 1994 21:28:33 GMT


[this was sent to me E-mail and I'm posting it, incase of a type-o]

In article <32tsv1$t38@library.erc.clarkson.edu> you write:
> Perhaps this thread should turn into  an idea swap/voting on an apt slogan!
> (Sorry!  I can't think of one right yet!)

I like a Linux slogan I saw in someone's signature:

    Linux: the choice of a Gnu generation

It's still a parody of someone else's slogan, but it has a pun, and it
also says a little bit more about Linux than just "it's inside something".

Regards,

Michael Chastain
mec@shell.portal.com

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