Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #622
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:13:13 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #622, Volume #2                Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: xboing2.2 linking (Robert Gasch)
  CERT-94:09  What happened to the login security patch? (Randolph G. Brown)
  Re: Proposal: Linux Inside T-Shirts  (eruck@rdr.com)
  Re: What's the linux.act.* hierachy about? (Rafal Maszkowski)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  Recommendation on Linux Compatible VGA Card (Robert A. Hayden)
  Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion) (Chris Mauritz)
  Re: Suggest:SCSI Tape File System (Hannes Reinecke)
  Re: "crypt" or equivalents in Linux (Harald T. Alvestrand)
  Re: booting in a system with both IDE and SCSI using Boot Manager (John Henders)
  Installing Slackware Professional CD-Rom from Mitsumi... (Rasquin Jean-Pierre)
  Re: Proposal: Linux Inside T-Shirts  (Patrick Reijnen)
  Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion) (Brandon S. Allbery)
  Linux/Linus gets notation in Wired 2.09 (Robert Sink)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion) (Harry C Pulley)
  Re: IDE + Future Domain SCSI: Slackware Fails (FIXED) (Robert A. Hayden)
  Re: multi part uuencode... (Andre Fachat)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Tom Krotchko)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch)
Subject: Re: xboing2.2 linking
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:05:23 GMT

Same thing here. I was tinking of jsut throwing the audio part 
out of the game, but never got around to it. If someone has 
already done this, please let me know ...

--> Robert 

Operator (machreka@cantor.com) wrote:
: hi,

:    Anybody out there compile xboing2.2 ( game) on a linux 486 machine

:     I seem to have linking problems for audio.

:    If anybody can help me email me at : machreka@cantor.com

:    Any help is appreciated.

:   manoj


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From: brown@cs.swarthmore.edu (Randolph G. Brown)
Subject: CERT-94:09  What happened to the login security patch?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 04:35:08 GMT

I note that the security patches that the advisory says are in 
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Network/sunacm/URGENT/securty*
are no longer there; in fact the URGENT directory no longer exists.
Have these patches been included in any packages?  (I checked the
latest util-linux and it's login was dated before the advisory came
out.)  If not, where have they gone?

        -Randy

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From: eruck@rdr.com
Subject: Re: Proposal: Linux Inside T-Shirts 
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 10:20:19 GMT


In article <32oi46$8o2@galaxy.ucr.edu>, <rtm@neuromancer.ucr.edu> writes:
> Path: 
goldberg!uupsi!psinntp!rutgers!cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.c
olumbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca
!unixg.ubc.ca!news.bc.net!news.mic.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!neu
romancer.ucr.edu!rtm
> From: rtm@neuromancer.ucr.edu (Robert T Morris)
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
> Subject: Re: Proposal: Linux Inside T-Shirts
> Date: 15 Aug 1994 20:10:46 GMT
> Organization: University of California, Riverside
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> Jean-Paul Chia (jpchia@iinet.com.au) wrote:
> : Hello...
> : Would Anyone be interested in a Black or White Long Sleeve T-Shirt,
> : with the 'Linux Inside' Piccy printed in red on it?
> 

Would love to have one...  Pls Send more info...

TKS

Eric

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From: rzm@dain.oso.chalmers.se (Rafal Maszkowski)
Subject: Re: What's the linux.act.* hierachy about?
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 07:51:44 GMT

Ian McCloghrie (ianm@qualcomm.com) wrote:
> pageone@netcom.com writes:
> >     At Netcom a few minutes ago, 30+ new linux.* groups (NOT comp.os.linux
> >groups) showed up.  After looking through the control messages, they appear
> If they're linux.act.*, I'd speculate that someone's set up a
> mail<->news gateway from the linux-activists mailing lists at
> niksula.hut.fi

I remember somebody offering linux-activists via news some time ago.
Any address or should I try get a feed from netcom?

R.
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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: 17 Aug 1994 04:03:28 -0600

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.


Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
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Subject: Recommendation on Linux Compatible VGA Card
From: hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (Robert A. Hayden)
Date: 16 Aug 94 23:22:10 -0500

I am going to be doing some work with X starting next month and my 
current VGA card won't really work very well (a very very old/cheap 512K 
8-bit board).  Can anyone recommend a good video board to get?  It should 
be as cheap as possible to be still functional, and it doesn't need to 
have every single bell-and-whistle available.

If important, I do have one remaining VESA slot available.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent
From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Chris Mauritz)
Subject: Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:41:47 GMT

Rick Kelly (rmk@rmkhome.com) wrote:
: Dan Pop (danpop@cernapo.cern.ch) wrote:
: : In <9408101917.06@rmkhome.com> rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly) writes:

: : >Okay, I want to install Linux, let's say.  I don't want to feed 40 or so
: : >floppies into the machine.  I buy a CD drive (~$100) and install Linux
: : >from the CD drive.  The next time I will have a use for the drive will be
: : >when I have to load another OS from CD-ROM.

: : If you don't intend to use the CD-ROM for any other purposes, feeding
: : 40 floppies into the machine is somewhat faster than buying a CD-ROM
: : drive, installing it and installing the software from CD.

: Exactly, but I'd rather load from tape.

: QIC-150 tapes in quantity are around $14 or less.

4mm 2.0 gig DAT tapes are about $10 in quantities of 1.

Chris
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From: hare@zarquon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Hannes Reinecke)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Suggest:SCSI Tape File System
Date: 17 Aug 1994 10:41:42 GMT

Hi all,
the idea sounds pretty good. As I don't have the original posting at
hand, I don't know whether it has been mentioned earlier, so I'm
writing it anyhow: 

We really should use a common format (such as tar) for doing the
actual writing on
the tape. The advantages are:
- _All_ tapestreamers are able to read the tape; you didn't rely on a
special driver being present. For the consequences in not doing so
read a.f.c: 1970 population census and followups.

- The physical format and methods of writing are well-known; you are
able to fix your mind on the real problem.

- And of course, you are not restricted to a special kind of
hardware. It should run on virtually _every_ tapedrive system.

Comments and suggestions welcome.
BTW, having an DAT-Streamer I'd like to participiate on the project,
if it ever comes into physical existence.

Greetings from Heidelberg

Hannes
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From: hta@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: "crypt" or equivalents in Linux
Date: 17 Aug 1994 07:36:44 GMT

For encryption:
Get DES from nic.funet.fi.

For crypt(2): Use Perl, which has it as a builtin.
perl -e 'print crypt("string",5)' works fine.

Having crypto software in something free is a MAJOR hassle, due to the
dain-bramaged policies enforced by the National Security Agency of the US.

(If DES was in Linux, the US site maintainers would be criminals
every time someone fetched a copy from outside the US - even though it
originated outside the US, and is freely available there! *That*, I call
dain-bramaged.....)
-- 
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                      +47 73 59 70 94
My son's name is Torbjxrn. The letter between "j" and "r" is o with a slash.

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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.com (John Henders)
Subject: Re: booting in a system with both IDE and SCSI using Boot Manager
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:49:41 GMT

In <CunA83.48J@pe1chl.ampr.org> rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) writes:

>With the old SCSI BIOS, you can't have more than two INT 13h devices in the
>system.  So when you already have two IDE disks, the SCSI BIOS will not
>install any of the SCSI disks as INT 13h devices.

        I added a second IDE and ran into this, so I created a little
(5meg) partition on the end of the second IDE and load linux from there.
I mount it on /boot on my scsi drive so I can copy new kernels in and
everything works fine.
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From: rasquin@crpcu.lu (Rasquin Jean-Pierre)
Subject: Installing Slackware Professional CD-Rom from Mitsumi...
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:05:13 GMT

Hi,

I received my Slackware CD-Rom yesterday and wanted to install it. The problem 
I have is that my Mitsumi (connected to a Soundblaster) is set up at defaults 
(340h, IRQ10) but the included bootdisk looks for it at 300h, IRQ11 ? Now I'd 
like to know if there is no way to configure (e.g. enter some parameter when 
asked to enter parameter for PS/1 or so) the address and IRQ for the Mitsumi. 
I wouldn't like to open my Computer again (I've kept doing this for 4 months 
now...) and by the way, the Soundblaster (Pro 2.0 8bit) doesn't allow to set 
the address at 300h, only 304h 308h 320h 340h :-( How could I at least build 
or find a built bootdisk that allows this ?

Thanx, JP.

________________________________________________________________________
Jean-Pierre Rasquin                           Centre de Recherche Public
Analyste-programmeur                                Centre Universitaire
rasquin@crpcu.lu                           162a, avenue de la Faiencerie
                                                       L-1511 Luxembourg

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From: patrickr@cs.kun.nl (Patrick Reijnen)
Subject: Re: Proposal: Linux Inside T-Shirts 
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 11:45:45 GMT

In <1994Aug17.072107.16498@rdr.com> eruck@rdr.com writes:


>In article <32oi46$8o2@galaxy.ucr.edu>, <rtm@neuromancer.ucr.edu> writes:
>> Path: 
>goldberg!uupsi!psinntp!rutgers!cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.c
>olumbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca
>!unixg.ubc.ca!news.bc.net!news.mic.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!neu
>romancer.ucr.edu!rtm
>> From: rtm@neuromancer.ucr.edu (Robert T Morris)
>> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
>> Subject: Re: Proposal: Linux Inside T-Shirts
>> Date: 15 Aug 1994 20:10:46 GMT
>> Organization: University of California, Riverside
>> Lines: 12
>> Message-ID: <32oi46$8o2@galaxy.ucr.edu>
>> References: <ann-5833.776821078@cs.cornell.edu>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: neuromancer.ucr.edu
>> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
>> 
>> Jean-Paul Chia (jpchia@iinet.com.au) wrote:
>> : Hello...
>> : Would Anyone be interested in a Black or White Long Sleeve T-Shirt,
>> : with the 'Linux Inside' Piccy printed in red on it?
>> 

>Would love to have one...  Pls Send more info...

I'm joining ......

>TKS

>Eric



Patrick Reijnen


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent
From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 11:47:48 GMT

In article <9408161954.56@rmkhome.com>, rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly) says:
+---------------
| The question is moot, since the system in question has an Adaptec 1540A,
| which Linux didn't seem to like.  So I installed NetBSD instead.
+------------->8

???  I don't know what you're doing, but the 154x series is supported and
works for many folks.  The 154xA had bugs which you may be triggering, but
you're as likely to trip over those on other OSes as well.

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH         [44.70.4.88]             bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
Linux development:  iBCS2, JNOS, MH

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From: sinkr@universe.digex.net (Robert Sink)
Subject: Linux/Linus gets notation in Wired 2.09
Date: 17 Aug 1994 04:01:36 -0400

In case no one noticed, or perhaps I didn't see anyone elses post Wired v2.09
had a nice article on Linux and Linus.

It gave a background on the operating system and showed Linus slurping
down a beer.  Very interesting.

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Crossposted-To: biz.sco.general
From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 13:02:32 GMT

bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:

>In article <1994Aug16.125631.17069@taylor.infi.net>, mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) says:
>+---------------
>| evanc@bkanhf.bnr.ca (David Harding) writes:
>| >The utilities that came with SCO (ie: chown, rm, sed, etc.) are archaic and
>| >had to be replaced with their GNU equivalents.
>| 
>| ???????  They are standard System 5 utilities.  We have never had any
>| problems with them.
>+------------->8

>Table sizes and etc.  Altos SVR3.1 utilities worked better and generally
>handled larger files than SCO 3.2 does; 

We used to use Altos Unix... from 3.1 to 3.2.something.  In fact, a newer high
powered Altos box is running our Hospital right now.  Altos is a large
box maker, and therefore tunes their OS for large filesystems, networks,
and multi-user functions.  Altos switched, however, from Altos Unix to
SCO MPX Unix several years ago.  The reason- to ensure access to the large
commercial base of software SCO has (and also to roll in some new technology,
like multiprocessing).

I can say that the repackaged SCO ODT MPX which Altos included, was tuned
for large everything.  I have only had to adjust the streams a little higher.

>I could almost believe SCO built
>everything sized for 286es.

Hmmm....

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From: hpulley@uoguelph.ca (Harry C Pulley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion)
Date: 17 Aug 1994 12:48:54 GMT

Rick Kelly (rmk@rmkhome.com) wrote:
: I have multiple computers and multiple operating systems.

: I believe in "1 computer = 1 OS".

I just bought a new drive and I have DOS, Linux and Coherent on the same
machine.  I believe in "I computer, many OSes" ;-)

I wasn't using Coherent for a while since I needed X11 on a Cirrus Logic card
and virtual memory.  I didn't have the hard drive space so Coh had to go.  Now
I have the drive space.  I don't, in general, believe in emulation.  So, I use
DOS for DOS/Windows programs, Linux for general purpose UNIX stuff with X and
VM, and I use Coherent for iBCS/STREAMS stuff.  Triple booting is fun but it
works.

Isn't this discussion getting a bit beyond silly?  We have "my OS is better
than yours" and "CDROM vs. tape" in the same thread.  "Double the religion" is
not "double the fun".  Well, it is kind of fun to read the messages as they
come on down the pipe but I think we are repeating ourselves, just a little
bit?

Harry
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: IDE + Future Domain SCSI: Slackware Fails (FIXED)
From: hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (Robert A. Hayden)
Date: 16 Aug 94 23:07:44 -0500

The solution to the problem I described yesterday was to change the ID# on
the SCSI device from #6 to #0.  The reason for this confusion is that the
documentation on the SCSI interface recommends starting with your ID#
being high and working downwards, adjusting so that the highest-priority
devices have the highest number, but apparently Linux wants it the other
way around (at least for one device). 

There was some mention in the SCSI HOWTO with regards to ID#0 and
Seagates, but it seems to imply that it is in reference to Seagate
interface CARDS, not drives.  If it is the latter, a clarification could
probably be used. 

I do not know if there will be problems with multiple devices if the next 
one is not #1 as I don't have another drive to play with.

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From: fs1@aixterm2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Andre Fachat)
Subject: Re: multi part uuencode...
Date: 17 Aug 1994 13:02:45 GMT

Andrew R. Tefft (teffta@erie.ge.com) wrote:
: uuencode file file | split

: leaves you with files named xaa xab xac etc.

: I believe split has an option to specify something else as a filename
: pattern.

But then you have to extract all these parts more or less manually
(if you don't want to write some sophisticated shell script) at
the receiveing end. IMHO is it better to 
split -b nnn
where nnn is the number of bytes to split a binary file into
and then uuencode each of them.
At the receiving end you uudecode all of them and then cat them.

Andre
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For some it is MS-Windows, for others it's the longest batch file on earth...

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From: tomk@access.digex.net (Tom Krotchko)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 12:43:35 GMT

In article <CuMpKu.9nr@novell.co.uk>, msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius) says:

>: Well, yes.  But the implicit comparison was between Unixware and Linux.
>: Unixware is cheap enough right now that its price is all that
>: significnt.  $350-400 is pretty cheap!
>
>That should answer the repeatedly stated question of "what does this have to
>do with UnixWare". :-)  Another thing that apparently has something to do
>with UW is that whoever started this thread in times immemorial, and about 
>500 postings ago, cross-posted it to comp.unix.unixware as well as half
>the Universe.

Well, I should point out that I meant "isn't all that significant".  Excuse
the typo as it changes my point.

But I understand the persecution complex well. I owned 3 Amigas <G>.

Tom Krotchko
<tomk@access.digex.net>

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