Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #617
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:13:23 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #617, Volume #2                Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:13:23 EDT

Contents:
  Linux's sense of humor (Edsel Adap)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (David Wright)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Martin Sohnius)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Martin Sohnius)
  Re: IDE + Future Domain SCSI: Slackware Fails (Daniel Tran)
  Re: IDE + Future Domain SCSI: Slackware Fails (Daniel Tran)
  Re: Proposal: Linux Inside T-Shirts (Michael Peek)
  SEARCH: Transputer-devicedriver (Kai Dittmann)
  Re: Wallpaper under X in Linux (Van Dao Mai)
  Re: 5428 scattering Xwindows possible solution (Van Dao Mai)
  Re: Motif for Linux (cheaper than $149 ????) (Van Dao Mai)
  sound card for pcmcia laptop (Dr. William E. Willis)
  xboing2.2 linking (Operator)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Paul JY Lahaie)
  Re: WANTED: Supplier of PC clone for Linux.... (Eckard Kopatzki)

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From: adap@andrews.edu (Edsel Adap)
Subject: Linux's sense of humor
Date: 16 Aug 1994 12:33:12 GMT


Hi all!

Just thought I'd share the fact that LINUX has a sense of humor.  CHeck
out this line of output from ps:

alice:~> ps aux
USER       PID %CPU %MEM SIZE  RSS TTY STAT START   TIME COMMAND
        [ other stuff deleted ]
root       105  0.1  5.1  164  364  ?  S    08:39   0:00 -:0
                                                         ^^^

This was very early in the morning so it looks like my alice is yawning!

;-)
-- 
 Edsel Adap                         B. S. Computer Science / Mathematics
 adap@andrews.edu                   Andrews University, Berrien Springs, MI

The Briggs/Chase Law of Program Development:

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 12:42:24 GMT

dmw@prism1.prism1.com (David Wright) writes:

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>>>>>> "MAD" == Mark A Davis <mark@taylor.infi.net> writes:

>  MAD> mike@hobbit.hum.port.ac.uk (Mike Meredith) writes:
>  >> Peter Wiley - Poultry (peter@prospect.anprod.csiro.au) wrote:

>  >> Do you know about the patches that will allow Linux to run SCO Unix 
>  >> binaries ? I haven't tried them myself, so I don't know how useful they 
>  >> are, but if they work well it should be possible to run Informix, Oracle, 
>  >> etc.

>       It does work.

>  >> Of course the main use for a Linux box today is probably to off-load 
>  >> applications that can run under Linux - WWW servers, Gopher servers, 
>  >> mail, news, development, etc. This would leave more CPU power for running 
>  >> databases.

>  MAD> I agree with that sentiment.  It is an ideal use for a Linux box in a
>  MAD> commercial environment if one feels skittish.

>       Of course, the "better" (or even "existant") support by SCO is (IMHO)
>only an illusion. We are (currently) primarily an SCO shop, but we (I) are
>looking at replacing SCO with Linux. For the most part the ONLY reason we
>have not is that a typical customer of ours is getting 4-8 intelligent ports
>(mainly Specialix now) and there is no driver to support them under Linux yet.
>       Linux is *every* bit as stable as SCO from an OS level (if you stick
>to the 1.0.x versions). I can tell you from experience I feel more confident
>about getting support for a problem I encounter under Linux than for any
>kind of help/support from SCO. Paying big $$$ for SCO buys you *nothing*.

******YOU******* may get *nothing*, but countless other people do get
something.  We cannot replace SCO with Linux until Linux has all the
administration tools, multiprocessing support, multidrop support, ECC RAM
support, runs ALL our SCO software properly,  and all our SCO software vendors
support their software running on Linux.  It sounds like a tall order,
but is not different from many other companies' requirements.  And nothing
I said has anything to do with support from SCO...
-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis     | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems  |    mark@taylor.infi.net       |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 12:56:31 GMT

evanc@bkanhf.bnr.ca (David Harding) writes:

>Mark A. Davis (mark@taylor.infi.net) wrote:
>: How long have you used SCO for anything real?  We have been using it for
>: years.  We have millions of dollars worth of information riding on it.
>: We have *NEVER* had a corruption or crash.

>At synapse.net, we use both UnixWare and SCO systems to provide Internet
>access to customers.  We have had SCO for about 2 years and UnixWare for
>about 6 months.

>Up until recently, we had SCO doing everything and UnixWare just as a test
>environment.
>Then our users started complaining about performance.  The system was just
>plain slow, to the point where transfers would not work properly (not even
>Xmodem).
>So we did things like move the news server and the nameserver to UnixWare.
>The system was still horribly slow.  So we moved *everything* except our
>Uniboard system to UnixWare.
>SCO is now fast enough for transfers to work properly, and UnixWare doesn't
>even show signs of strain.

Sounds like you had a seriously broken configuration.  We have a single SCO box
running 100 users, 4 modems, USENET, email, AP, GL, PAY, HR, LAB, AR,
word processing, spreadsheeting, time management, REC, Materials Management,
Ancillary, Fixed Assets, Dietary, MPI, etc.   It is always fast.

Obviously different people will have different experiences with ANYTHING.
But the reason I spoke up in the first place is that I am tired of
poeple getting on the net and telling one-sided stories.  I can pull just
as many disasterous Linux stories out of my hat.  But what is the point?

>The routing tables don't work properly for SLIP/PPP, which meant that I
>could not do routing for entire networks if clients had their own nets
>using us as their gateway to the Internet.

Can't comment on that, since we are not using PPP quite yet (soon hopefully).

>Every time the system crashed (not as infrequent as you made it out to be)
>or if the power was out for longer than the UPS lasted, we always had
>corruption. 

5.5 years- no corruption here.

>The utilities that came with SCO (ie: chown, rm, sed, etc.) are archaic and
>had to be replaced with their GNU equivalents.

???????  They are standard System 5 utilities.  We have never had any
problems with them.

>Getting rid of SCO is one of my greatest accomplishments as sysadmin at
>synapse.net.  It has made me a lot happier, because I can administer the
>system much more easily, and it doesn't take hours upon hours to get
>programs to compile like it did on SCO.  Everything usually compiles on the
>first shot and works just fine.

Header differences and such are something which has always existed between
commercial Unixes.  This is not limited to SCO.  Also, SCO has recently
changed some of their config in the development system to the newer
so-called "standards".  I have has very good progress compiling software
with 5.3.2.4.X.

>UnixWare is faster,

possibly

> cheaper,

definately

> more user-friendly,

I think they are about the same.

> more sysadmin-friendly,

possibly

>and just plain better than SCO.

That is a matter of opinion.  I have heard people bashing Unixware also.
I am not one of them, but I am not trying to....

-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis     | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems  |    mark@taylor.infi.net       |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: dmw@prism1.prism1.com (David Wright)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 12:19:59 GMT

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>>>>> "RK" == Rick Kelly <rmk@rmkhome.com> writes:

  RK> There is a gray area between iBCS2 and SCO.

        Hah. What an understatement. But this really isn't the fault of SCO
or the iBCS2 specs. What are you supposed to do when an executable is linked
with shared libs? The fact that it is compiled in iBCS2 format means nothing
if the binary expects vendor-specific libraries to be present. Of course,
someone can write compatible libraries to be used as replacements (a'la the
Linux iBCS2 emulator project's SVR4 work), but that increases the amount of
work done.

        I suppose that a concientious developer could provide a static binary
image (which should run fine), and shared images for whatever systems they
want to support directly. At installation time they could ask or determine
which image to install from the media based on what version of Unix was in
use.

                                                Dave

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 12:56:56 GMT

David Harding (evanc@bkanhf.bnr.ca) wrote:
: Martin Sohnius (msohnius@novell.co.uk) wrote:
: : Standalone, you were probably root. Other users are not.
: : Root errors are serious, others are not (or should not be).
: : What does Linux say when you do

: :     # rm -r / tmp

: I don't know what it says, but I know that on my SCO system, it wiped out
: the root directory and then said that tmp was a directory.  Yes, I have
: done this before :-)

On Xenix it used to say (after a while) "/bin/rmdir not found" and die.
But only after it had wiped the contents of /bin. :-)

--
                        +--------------------------------------------+
Martin Sohnius          | "It doesn't matter whether the cat is      |
Novell Labs Europe      |  black or white, as long as it catches     |
Bracknell, England      |  mice."      - Deng Xiaoping               |
+44-1344-724031          +--------------------------------------------+
                        (I speak for myself, not for Novell or anyone else.)

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:02:52 GMT

Tom Krotchko (tomk@access.digex.net) wrote:
: In article <CuLtrG.Mz4@acsu.buffalo.edu>, bohm@cs.buffalo.edu (Eric J. Bohm) says:

: >>>Whether an OS costs $0.00 or $1,000 doesn't seem all that important.
: >
: >
: >Whoah, depends on your OS, note that SCO just (massively) increased its
: >prices for the big licenses.  Only the 16 user licenses were unaffected,
: >everything else went up in price by a factor of anywhere from 2 to 4 times
: >as much as the previous price.  So, now its more like 0 or anywhere between
: >2 and 12 thousand dollars.  For the above example that would be either 32
: >or 128 (no 64) user license, so think 3-5k.  

: Well, yes.  But the implicit comparison was between Unixware and Linux.
: Unixware is cheap enough right now that its price is all that
: significnt.  $350-400 is pretty cheap!

That should answer the repeatedly stated question of "what does this have to
do with UnixWare". :-)  Another thing that apparently has something to do
with UW is that whoever started this thread in times immemorial, and about 
500 postings ago, cross-posted it to comp.unix.unixware as well as half
the Universe.

--
                        +--------------------------------------------+
Martin Sohnius          | "It doesn't matter whether the cat is      |
Novell Labs Europe      |  black or white, as long as it catches     |
Bracknell, England      |  mice."      - Deng Xiaoping               |
+44-1344-724031          +--------------------------------------------+
                        (I speak for myself, not for Novell or anyone else.)

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From: dtran@emelnitz.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: IDE + Future Domain SCSI: Slackware Fails
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:54:43 GMT

In article <1994Aug15.144417.8274@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (Robert A. Hayden) writes:
>I have a system with two Caviar IDE drives.  This afternoon, I tried to 
>drop in a Future Domain 1680 SCSI card and a Seagate 500 meg SCSI drive 
>(Device #6).

I know this may sound very stupid, but try using SCSI ID 0 and see what will 
happen.  I have the same 1680 controller (3.4 bios).

>I was able to recompile my kernel and get a boot floppy that detected the 
>drive with no problem and I was able to mount it by hand.
>Next I copied most of my /dev/hda stuff over to /dev/sda1 so that I could
>reformat/re-partition /dev/hda into one larger partition.  To do this, I
>was going to boot the slackware boot disk (SCSINET), reformat and partion
>/dev/hda and copy the stuff from /dev/sda1 back to the proper places on
>/dev/hda1.  Their are two problems that I encountered, though... 
>1)  Floppy reads are now VERY VERY slow . . . For example, it takes about 4 
>minutes for the ramdisk to load from the bootdisk.

The same thing on my machine at home.  Booting up with floppy was really 
really slow.

>2)  when the ramdisk and kernel IS finally loaded, it starts to 
page >through all of the diagnotic stuff and I'll get the following error:
>        [...]
>        Calibrating delay loop: ok - 33.22 BogoMips
>        failed

Same thing too, but i don't think this has anything to do with the FD card.  
If you really want to find out why then the answer may lie in the routine that 
calculating bogomips.  I have not looked at the code yet.

>At this point, everything will freeze.

Mine works the only annoying part is the slow boot with floppy.

>Also, in /var/adm/syslog, I am getting the following errors, but I am not 
>sure at which point they are being caused (not from the slackware 
>bootdisk, but this might be a clue):
>        Aug 15 13:01:03 vorlon kernel: floppy 0: probe failed...
>        Aug 15 13:01:03 vorlon kernel: Reset-floppy called
>        Aug 15 13:01:04 vorlon kernel: floppy 0: probe failed...
>        Aug 15 13:01:04 vorlon kernel: Reset-floppy called
>        Aug 15 13:01:04 vorlon kernel: floppy 0: probe failed...
>        Aug 15 13:01:04 vorlon kernel: Reset-floppy called
>----------------------------------------

>Both the IDE card and the SCSI has a floppy controller.  Originally the 
>IDE was acting as a the Floppy card, but I switched it over to the SCSI 
>(disabling the other card) during debuggging, with no change.

>-----------------------------------------



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From: dtran@emelnitz.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: IDE + Future Domain SCSI: Slackware Fails
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:58:15 GMT

In article <32p7tj$ckn@tadpole.fc.hp.com> howie@fc.hp.com (Howie Grapek) writes:
>Interesting... I have similar problems, albeit worse.

>I want to make it a dual boot LINUX/DOS machine using LILO
>... with DOS on the IDE drive, LINUX on the second disk (I have a 
>327 MB Seagate scsi and the same SCSI card).. 
>pretty simple eh?

>I dropped in the scsi card, an external CD rom (scsi-id 4), the seagate 
>scsi disk (scsi-id 1); I left the floppies on the IDE card and disabled 
>the floppies on the SCSI card.

Try assigning scsi ID 0 to the hard disk, ID one to the CDROM and see what 
will happen.  I have to put mine in order for it to work.  I know it doesn't 
make sense.

>So, I created the bootdisk and rootdisk from the Transameritech CD, 
>which says it has the Future Domain drivers built into the kernel...
>Ok, booted (from the bootdisk) and it did an auto detect on the scsi card, 
>and saw the scsi disk.. then it hung.... never asked me for the rootdisk.

I used the Slackware dist. and it works fine

Daniel Tran - dtran@emelnitz.ucla.edu


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From: peek@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Michael Peek)
Subject: Re: Proposal: Linux Inside T-Shirts
Date: 16 Aug 1994 14:04:01 GMT

Jean-Paul Chia (jpchia@iinet.com.au) wrote:
: Hello...
: Would Anyone be interested in a Black or White Long Sleeve T-Shirt,
: with the 'Linux Inside' Piccy printed in red on it?
: A large one on the back and a small on on the front top left corner?
: If anyone out there is interested, please mail me, because at the 
: moment it's just an idea.. and I'd like to get some numbers, to see
: if it is worth it or not.. :)
: Thank you..
: - JP
: --
:         Jean-Paul Chia                      TheWiz @ IRC
:         Drasnian Technologies,  Perth, Western Australia
:         PH +61-9-447-6261             FAX +61-9-447-4098
:         jean-paul@drasnia.it.com.au, jpchia@iinet.com.au

: --
: Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu
: Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software.

Yeah, I think it'd be cool.


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Date: 15 Aug 1994 17:13:00 +0200
From: k.dittmann@wizzard.ping.de (Kai Dittmann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: SEARCH: Transputer-devicedriver

Hello ...

Is there any Devicedriver for Transputer outside ?
I want to use my TRAM-Network under Slackware 2.0.0

Please give me some FTP-Sites or any other solutions, whrer i can get this  
driver...


thanks in advance
---KAI

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|  Kai Dittmann, Bochum, Germany  -  e-Mail: k.dittmann@wizzard.ping.de  |
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From: mai@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai)
Subject: Re: Wallpaper under X in Linux
Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:21:58 +1000

erik@Elbereth.thur.de (Erik Heinz) writes:

>Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote:
>: If you want to load images on the root window (background) you may want
>: to check the "xloadimage" program as well.  It usually runs a bit quicker
>: than "xv".
<<< I realised this, but XV will set the root colour to what ever you want
so that the display looks nicer.

I got my script working very well now. It does not take up much memory
unlike XV. It just sleeps until the right time and fire up XV to do the
job. Absolutely no extra load on the system when XV is not running.
It is truly stunning to look at the crisp text produced by the CL5428
chipset on a Mag MX17F monitor and the fishes swimming about on a changing
background of my favourite images.

I reconfigure FVWM init files to allow saving the desktop. Add large
Xterms with nice fonts and background colours; run xfishtank for an
aquarium, display my favourite pictures at a regular interval. All this
makes the display ALIVE! Just love it so much! All this takes up 12% of the
machine power. The 88% left indicated by top (with top's load  itself) is
plenty under the 486DX66 with 16M RAM. I just love Linux and Xfree86! It is
just so nice to run Xterm with large fonts and a 17" monitor at 1152x900.
It is worth the trouble of configuring FVWM right. This leaves OpenLook WM
much less desirable. 

Cheers,

Van Dao Mai
Wollongong Australia


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From: mai@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai)
Subject: Re: 5428 scattering Xwindows possible solution
Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:29:05 +1000

spade@rocko.lab.csuchico.edu (John Spade) writes:

>In article <rcsacw.775306222@rwc.urc.tue.nl>,
>Christ van Willegen <rcsacw@rwc.urc.tue.nl> wrote:
>>There have been a few post of people (including me) that had problems
>>with pixel droppings in Xview with a Cirrus Logic VLB card. I just spoke
>>to a salesman, who ahd encountered the same problem a few times.
>>
>>(having a CL5428 VLB, unfortunately)

>       I have used a '26 and a '28 cirrus card at 40mhz with no problems.
>Your problem is probably in your Xconfig.  Read the options in 
>man XF86_SVGA  for options.  I believe you need
>       option  'no_fifo'  or something like that...  You video
>memory is too slow.  My 5434 had some similar problems and fooling
>with the card options fixed it. 

<<< try ConfigXF86. The software is available at sunsite. It does the
whole job to create Xconfig for my cheap CL5428 Cirrus Logic card.
I am very impressed with the software. The display is now at 1152x900
and 58.5Hz Vert (almost flicker free) and no more pixel dropping. Clap
your hands for the software. Love it!
    I have traded the speed of the S3 for the gorgeous look of the CL5428.
No regret whatsoever! At least, by using this chipset I will  be able to
look at the ladies with my naked eyes for a long time!

Cheers,

Van Dao
Wollongong, Australia

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From: mai@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai)
Subject: Re: Motif for Linux (cheaper than $149 ????)
Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:39:54 +1000

bogdan@crl.com (Bogdan Urma) writes:

>     I've looked around also, and apparently these are the only 2 companies
>which have Motif for Linux. I finally dished out the $149 and bought the
>just released SWiM Motif 1.2.4 for Linux. The price may seem high in the 
>Linux community, where users are used to getting software for free, but in
>reality it's very little for such a fine product.
<<< is there any need for Motif? Is it much better than FVWM windows
manager? I run FVWM and love it for its speed. A bit of time spent in
customisation makes it perfect. Unless there are special software in Motif
that makes the package worth while I would not go for it.

Cheers,

Van Dao
Wollongong University


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From: willis@unity.ncsu.edu (Dr. William E. Willis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: sound card for pcmcia laptop
Date: 16 Aug 1994 14:13:32 GMT
Reply-To: bill_willis@ncsu.edu




Hello,

I need to install some type of a sound card into my PCMCIA equiped laptop in
order to do portable multimedia presentations. Before I set out and write
drivers and such, has anyone done a PCMCIA sound driver for linux and if so
which card did you use?

--
Dr. William E. Willis


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From: machreka@cantor.com (Operator)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: xboing2.2 linking
Date: 16 Aug 1994 14:23:07 GMT
Reply-To: machreka@cantor.com


hi,

   Anybody out there compile xboing2.2 ( game) on a linux 486 machine

    I seem to have linking problems for audio.

   If anybody can help me email me at : machreka@cantor.com

   Any help is appreciated.

  manoj


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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
From: Paul_Lahaie@achilles.net (Paul JY Lahaie)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:57:54 GMT

In article <32oeo8$lp9@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> evanc@bkanhf.bnr.ca (David Harding) writes:

>At synapse.net, we use both UnixWare and SCO systems to provide Internet
>access to customers.  We have had SCO for about 2 years and UnixWare for
>about 6 months.


    We have been using Linux at achilles.net for about 2 years also, 
originally providing access to a MUD and then a full Internet drop.  Our crop 
of machines include 2 Linux machines (a news/mud server and a WWW, Gopher, 
telnettable IRC client server) and a SunOS 4 machine (user machine -- bought 
when we were having problems with the Linux machine (the WWW server) which 
weren't even Linux related (bad Co-ax cabling)).  I'm happy to say that we do 
have some forms of down time, but all the systems suffer from it (even the 
SunOS 4  which has some interesting quirks).  We had a UnixWare machine for 
awhile, but it went back to Windows for Workgroups and then to Windows NT, 
since UnixWare didn't have the proper Diamond drivers, and when we switched to 
an ATI card, it didn't have proper drivers for that card either, so we either 
ran it in 640x480 or we took a chance with the monitor (which mentioned 
Undefined Dot Clock or some such thing).

    The next hurdle was getting it to acknowledge the DNS which nowhere in the 
docs it said how to do.  All in all, UnixWare was much more of a pain than 
anything else to get running.

                                                - Paul
--
pjlahaie@achilles.net
Achilles Networking Services
Technical Contact

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From: root@stevie.isar.muc.de (Eckard Kopatzki)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,biz.comp.hardware,biz.comp.services,biz.comp.software,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Re: WANTED: Supplier of PC clone for Linux....
Date: 16 Aug 1994 14:12:02 GMT

In article <starshumCuI5x3.7HB@netcom.com>, starshum@netcom.com (Jolly Roger) writes:
> I M H Nadiadi (mapimhn@midge.bath.ac.uk) wrote:
> : I am looking for suppliers of hardware who:
> 
> 
> I know a company in Houston, TX called SW TECHNOLOGIES, the guy's name is
> Marvin Wu... forgot his # tho. But I think you should be able to find his
> # from yellow page. HE also read this group or maybe alt.unix.32bit.pcclone.
> 

Before contacting this company you should read the article 

Message-ID: <pc-hardware-faq/vendor-reviews/swt_775344022@cam.ov.com>

posted to this newsgroup by jik@cam.ov.com about one week ago.

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