Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #582
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:13:11 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #582, Volume #2                Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Reminder: Please remember keywords (Lars Wirzenius)
  Can't get FTAPE to work! HELP! (Kyle Dawkins)
  Booting Sun Workstation (Nicolas BOUGUES)
  Re: Doom on SGI -- wow! (Sujat Jamil)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Brandon S. Allbery)
  3rd+ IDE Drives (Robert A. Hayden)
  Re: Call-Waiting and a modem, ideas??? (Zippy)
  Re: NCSA Moaic? (Steve Dunham)
  Using FK9000 (129 key programmable) keyboards (Mark Aitchison - Physics and Astronomy Computologist)
  Linux Press & Linux Journal Good News (Phil Hughes)
  Re: Ftape/modules proplem (Heiko Schlittermann)
  lsm - where is it ? (Pedro Roque Marques)
  Re: MCA SCSI Adapters for Linux? (Arindam Banerji)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  (none) (AJHJJ%CUNYVM.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU)
  Re: SCSI/IDE???? (Chris Butterworth)
  Re: Boca 8 Port Board - Great For Linux (Harald Milz)
  Re: Free Motif GUI and API (clone) for Linux (Harald Milz)
  Re: Spying (Harald Milz)
  Re: Zyxel software? (Harald Milz)
  Re: Linux book(s) (David Wynn)

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From: wirzeniu@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: Reminder: Please remember keywords
Date: 9 Aug 1994 21:42:34 +0300

bandy@paul.cs.umn.edu (Tim D. Bandy) writes:
> Would you please post a list of these all important keywords?  Some, like
> myself, have no idea what they are, though we would like to know...

There is no canonical list.  One needs to think about what kinds of words
someone searching for the article might use and include those.  They shouldn't
be too specific (because then it is unlikely that anyone will think of them),
nor should they be too broad (because then they will be found every time
anyone searches anything).

A few ad hoc examples I've used:

        kernel          it has something to do with the kernel proper
        patch           it is a patch
        binaries        it is (only) binaries
        commercial,
        advertisment    it is comical and an advertisment
        game            it is a game
        X               it is can run under X, or is otherwise Xciting

You might also want to check similar announcements in the past and see
if they have any interesting keywords.  Especially if you announce a
new version of something.

The best person to think up the keywords is the one who is uploading
things.  Anyway, the moderator will add or remove keywords he deems
unsuitable, but if you try, it will be a big help.  Inventing keywords
is not perhaps the most time-consuming part of moderating, but it is
perhaps the most annoying, since it can't be automated.

-- 
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi  (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
ftp.cs.helsinki.fi:pub/Software/Local/Publib -- general C function library

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From: dawkins@sound.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Kyle Dawkins)
Subject: Can't get FTAPE to work! HELP!
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 17:23:07 GMT

Greetings
We are in need of help quite badly... none of the ftape software seems
to work at all on our Linux system.  It is *not* a hardware problem,
since it either will not compile or will not install using insmod.
The whole story is this:
We had Kernel 0.99.15.  I got hold of ftape-1.13b and modules.tar.gz.
I read the instructions for ftape, so I recompiled our Kernel, and then
went to compile the modules utilities.  This failed, essentially because
it uses a structure of type "struct symbol_table" which is not
defined anywhere. So I got a newer Kernel, thinking maybe that's the problem.
(The new Kernel was 1.0).  Same problem. So I got an older version of
modutils (0.99.14).  These compiled no problem, but when I went to
install ftape.o, it complained about some undefined symbols... irq ones and
dma ones, and then crapped out.  So I thought, OK, it's probably the modutils,
so I got an even newer Kernel (1.1.21) to see if the first set of modules
would compile on that... Nope... same problem (struct symbol_table doesn't
exist).  Now, though, when I run insmod ftape.o it only complains
about *2* undefined symbols, _enable_irq and _disable_irq.
I am really frustrated by this! What is going wrong!!?!!
We need ftape to work quite urgently, and so far nothing is going well...
Please help
Kyle
dawkins@music.mcgill.ca
PS. Please email me any replies, since I can't always read this group

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From: nicolas@magix.uucp (Nicolas BOUGUES)
Subject: Booting Sun Workstation
Date: 10 Aug 1994 01:02:14 +0200

Hi,

I am desperatly trying to boot a 4/110 diskless Sun Workstation from my
Linux box.

The steps are the following :

        - adress resolving (RARP) : works
        - first stage boot loader tftp'ing : works
        - bootparam server locating : doesn't work

The Sun can't find a bootparam server, and loops forever. Of coure, I have
bootpd installed. But I think it is not even started by the request, because
I have patched it to log some stuff in a file when started, and I don't get
anything.

When I use the tcpdump program, I get the following results (during tu Sun's
bootparam poll) :

22:32:47.000000 sun4.1016 > 255.255.255.255.sunrpc: udp 100
(many times)

I don't have 100/udp in my /etc/services file. Is it normal ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
--
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
Nicolas BOUGUES
nbougues@renux.frmug.fr.net
Sysop of magix : ++ 33 (1) 45 21 02 52

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From: sujat@shasta.ee.umn.edu (Sujat Jamil)
Subject: Re: Doom on SGI -- wow!
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 03:12:00 GMT

In article <31nqi7$psh@crl3.crl.com>,
J. Heather Patrick <jpatrick@crl.com> wrote:
>In article <CtxA70.2yC@haapi.mn.org>,
>Clayton Haapala <clay@haapi.mn.org> wrote:
>>Just saw Doom running on an SGI Indy.  Runs FAST!  Almost too fast, when
>>driving through the corridors, but then I'm not a seasoned DOOM player.
>>Also had it display the X window on a Sparc 10 on the network and that was
>>fine as well.  Only when the window was enlarged to its biggest extent
>>did the blitting onto the screen look a little jerky.
>
>WHAT?! It's using portable X calls?
>Why the heck isn't there going to be a sparc version then?
>Ahhhhrrggggg....
>
>
> (Even if it ain't 100% normal X calls.. couldn't they make an "OpenGL"
>  version? )
>  
>
As far as I know, it *is* using normal X calls, because the Linux
version is supposed to be very similar to the IRIX version (i.e. just
a recompile).  I *wish* they had a space/sunos version.  I think they
aren't going to have one simply because they don't have access to a
sparc workstation.  I believe an SGI box was sent to them so that they
could develop the SGI version.

Sujat


--
*******************************************************************************
Sujat Jamil                                             Electrical Engineering
Graduate Research Assistant                             University of Minnesota
******************************sujat@shasta.ee.umn.edu**************************

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 02:05:48 GMT

In article <1994Aug8.213133.159@mbsks.franken.de>, m@mbsks.franken.de (Matthias Bruestle) says:
+---------------
| > But when one starts considering platforms upon which to base a
| > commercial product, Linux simply falls far short.  The lack of Windows
| With the iBCS2-Emu run:
|  Informix SQL Standard Engine, Oracle, Tactician Plus, Uniplex,
|  Uniplex Windows, VSIxFAX, ViaCrypt PGP, Word Perfect 5.1,
|  MicroFocus COBOL/2 v1.3, Uniface v5.1 and many more
+------------->8

RM/COBOL-85, Unify 2000 1.3 and 2.4...  We (that is, the iBCS2 development
team) know that other applications run, but almost nobody bothers to tell us
about their successes and often we only find out about the failures when
someone decides to make a comment in the newsgroups after the fact.

| And commercial soft FOR Linux:
|  Motif (ca.200$), FinSim (10k-17k $), Prochem-C (10k-30k $), MinD (for Linux
|  ca. 700$, for other Unices 1400$), Perl90 (Werum GmbH, commercial?),
|  ROSIN (10k$), Poet 2.1 (Personal Ed.:99$, Professional Ed.:2500$)
|  and probably many more
+------------->8

AcuCOBOL has been running native under Linux for at least six months.  I
notice that a Modula-3 development environment for Linux made OST's "Port
Call" sidebar recently.

What Linux lacks so far, from a commercial perspective, is commercial-level
support.  I understand that some people at Cygnus Support think Linux support
might be profitable within a year.  Some of us think that the best way to use
that year would be to build Linux into something *worth* commercial support.

| > been admonished by many Linuxoids "they've only just started working
| > on WINE - give them time!"  What the hell - I'm going to tell my
| > customers that?  Get real!
| If you customers need now WINE, they can't use Linux. But what is in
| one year, in two years? Who knows.
+------------->8

One year is beyond his event horizon.  This is akin to why so many U.S.
businesses cut R&D budgets "to help the bottom line"...

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH         [44.70.4.88]             bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
Linux development:  iBCS2, JNOS, MH

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Subject: 3rd+ IDE Drives
From: hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (Robert A. Hayden)
Date: 9 Aug 94 20:10:52 -0500

This has been batted around a few times by others, but I haven't really
seen a difinitive answer yet to this question and thought I'd try. 

I have a VLB IDE I/O card that will support two strings of IDE drives (it 
has two interfaces), with the second string being able to be assinged an 
inturrupt and stuff similiar to as if you dropped in a second card.

Is it possible to use a 3rd and fourth IDE drive (assuming no inturrupt
conflict)?  If so, what patches or kernels are needed (I'm running 1.1.13
with the IDE Performance patch)?  I haven't upgraded to a kernel >1.1.13 
yet because I haven't had the need to, but that is a simple (in theory) 
enough procedure.  NOTE:  This system DOES NOT have DOS installed on it, 
so solutions cannot require DOS.

If relevant, the is the other equipment on the system:
        2 Caviar 420MB IDE Drives
        Colorado Floppy Tape
        SB16 MCD w/ Mitsumi 2x CDRom
        486-66 w/ 16MB (AMI BIOS)
        NE2k Ethernet

Thanks for your time.

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From: sab@phantom.com (Zippy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Call-Waiting and a modem, ideas???
Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:59:03 GMT

Dave Sherohman (esper@a12.math.umn.edu) wrote:
: If, OTOH, you just want to disable call-waiting for the duration of your
: dialin session, all you have to do is dial *70 (1170 for pulse lines) and
: anyone calling you will get a busy signal without disrupting your data
: connection.

Also note discussion in comp.dcom.modems on the existence of a command 
string to disable call-waiting for *incoming* calls as well...


--
Seth Bromberger
sab@phantom.com

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From: dunham@gdl.msu.edu (Steve Dunham)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: NCSA Moaic?
Date: 10 Aug 1994 04:20:04 GMT

Russell Nelson (nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com) wrote:
: In article <1994Aug4.140909.6428@zippy.dct.ac.uk> mcscs1cfsi@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Herbie Akira) writes:

:    Is there NCSA Mosaic for Linux available???

: I use Chimera, which doesn't require Motif.  It makes me happy.  FTP
: it from ftp.cs.unlv.edu.

Can you put a binary somewhere. I tried to compile it the other day,
but it didn't work (it displayed the source instead of the html, if I
manually set the text resource to:
<h1>This is a test</h1>

it displayed it correctly, but if I set it to:
<h1>This is
a test</h1>

only the first line was displayed...

If you have any ideas what is wrong, let me know.  I've seen the
source to htmlw, and I don't want to mess with it (I was involved in
the Amiga port of XMosaic).

Steve Dunham
dunham@gdl.msu.edu

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From: phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Mark Aitchison - Physics and Astronomy Computologist)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Using FK9000 (129 key programmable) keyboards
Date: 10 Aug 94 16:26:03 +1200

FK-9000 keyborads (with 129 keys) are programmable at the keyboard itself,
but is there any software under DOS and ESPECIALLY LINUX to make use of these
keys (e.g. in the Linux Kernel) without having to manually program keys for
each keyboard?

The problem is that the left-hand function keys send one code instead of two
(one for make, another for break), and the calculator keys like MC seem to all
send 0xFF (so long as another calculator key hadn't been pressed already).

I presume somebody must've done all this before.

Thanks,
Mark Aitchison.

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From: fyl@ssc.com (Phil Hughes)
Subject: Linux Press & Linux Journal Good News
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 22:30:50 GMT

There is a two-page article on Linux in Nuts & Volts magazine, August 1994
issue.  The article is written by me and includes a lot of contact
information for vendors.  As it turns out, they apparently needed a
graphic for the page and didn't have one so they put in a box with the
work LINUX in it about 100 times.  Sure jumps out.

And, while I am wasting bandwidth a fax just came in to SSC from one of
the stores that resells Linux Journal.  When Ellie (our distribution
person) originally approached them about selling LJ they said they would
take 3.  Ellie told them that 10 was the minimum and after some arm
twisting, they got 10.  Today's fax says:
                URGENT!     <-- in 1-inch letters
    Dear Ellie: OK. You were right.
    These issues of Linux Journal are _flying- off the shelf. ...
    I need to move my draw up to 25 month. ... Can I get some
    more August issues from you? ...

Apparently there are some people out there that have heard of Linux and
want more info.  Watch out NT. 
-- 
Phil Hughes, SSC, Inc. P.O. Box 55549, Seattle, WA 98155  (206)FOR-UNIX
>>> Publishers of pocket references for UNIX, C, ..., Linux Journal <<<
    E-mail: fyl@ssc.com  Phone: (206)527-3385  Fax: (206)527-2806


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From: heiko@lotte.sax.de (Heiko Schlittermann)
Subject: Re: Ftape/modules proplem
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 06:39:58 GMT

In article <322hl8$aqs@netaxs.com>, Art Hutchison <hutch@netaxs.com> wrote:
>Kernel 1.1.38
>ftape-1.13b.tar.gz
>modules-0.1-0.99pl9A.tar.gz
>
>    I recompile the modules under 1.1.38 but when I try insmod hello.o I get
>Kernel symbol problem - nksyms <=0 : -1
>    Any ideas- of course I can't get ftape to work until this is solved -
>When I try insmod ftape.o I get
>_init undefined

I don't have such a recent kernel, but I played a little bit with
modules ....  It sounds like your kernel/ksyms.S (or the similiar in
1.1.38 (I heard about ksyms.c) is missing the _init symbol.  Try to
patch this and recompile.  

The only risk is a crash....

-- heiko

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From: roque@master.di.fc.ul.pt (Pedro Roque Marques)
Subject: lsm - where is it ?
Date: 9 Aug 1994 22:06:30 +0200

I lost the URL of the Linux Software Map ... 
couldn't find it in the META-FAQ either ....
so please be a kind sould mail it to me ....
        Thanks
-- 

        Pedro Roque (roque@di.fc.ul.pt)

        <a href="http://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~roque"> Home Page </a>

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From: axb@defender.dcrl.nd.edu (Arindam Banerji)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,de.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: MCA SCSI Adapters for Linux?
Date: 10 Aug 1994 00:50:37 GMT

As part of Linux-MCA effprt we are trying to get an ABIOS component for 
MCAs going. Once this is functional, you should be able to use any SCSI disks. 

In addition, to correct a point made by a previous poster - it is completely
possible to write a SCSI disk controller, from IBM's tech refs. I've seen this
being done. In fact, this is the method we used to create the ESDI driver 
of the current LINUX-MCA release. 
  
 
=============================================================================
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384 FitzPatrick Hall                         (219)-631-5772 (Voice)
Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering    (219)-273-0862 (Voice)
University of Notre Dame                     (219)-631-9260 (FAX)
Notre Dame, IN 46556                         axb@cse.nd.edu (E-mail)
HomePage:http://www.nd.edu/Departments/EN/CSE/DCRLab/HomePages/axb
=============================================================================

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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: 10 Aug 1994 04:03:11 -0600

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.


Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu>  (urgent email: iwj10@phx.cam.ac.uk)
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 223 64238

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From: AJHJJ%CUNYVM.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: (none)
Date: 10 Aug 1994 06:32:06 -0400
Reply-To: AJHJJ%CUNYVM.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU

unsub ajhjj@cunyvm.cuny.edu

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From: Chris@lunchbox.demon.co.uk (Chris Butterworth)
Subject: Re: SCSI/IDE????
Reply-To: Chris@lunchbox.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 19:29:11 +0000

In article <Cu8Gxw.D9F@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu>
           gbrownin@sun1.iusb.indiana.edu "G. Browning" writes:

> I want to install a 1 gig scsi drive with a few 80 meg scsi
> drives and one IDE 160 meg drive.  I talked it over with one
> of our technicians and he says that the IDE drive must be the
> boot drive as the AMI BIOS notices it first and then the scsi
> bios is read.  

  True. The IDE drive will be drive 0x80 (C: in dos-speke)
> 
> Now, LILO places itself in the master boot record..   if I want
> the gig SCSI drive to contain my LINUX, will LILO place itself
> in the MBR of the IDE to point to the SCSI?  (i.e. I want the
> operating system on the gig drive and use the IDE drive as
> /tmp).  

  I _think_ this will work - I have 3 SCSI drives and my Linux boots
  from the 2nd of these, with LILO installed in the MBR of the first.

  Having said which, it is likely that the IDE drive will be slower 
  than the SCSI drive so maybe you want to collect rarely used things
  onto it and keep /tmp on the faster drive. Booting Linux from the
  IDE drive with root on the SCSI is an option... you don't often
  load the kernel, so why have it use space on your fastest drive?

> I will be getting the adaptec 1542 controller, but I have been
> told that it DOES support 6 SCSI devices but only 2 drives..
> if this is the case, then will I need 3 SCSI cards to support
> my 1 gig SCSI, 240 meg SCSI, and the three 80 meg SCSI's 
> I have?  Is there not a way to chain 6 SCSI drive internally?
> Are not SCSI drives considered to be SCSI devices?  

  As far as I know a 1542 will support up to 7 devices, any number 
  of which can be drives. My 1542 supports the following:

  Device 0: 516 meg hard disk           /dev/sda
  Device 1: 516 meg hard disk           /dev/sdb
  Device 2: Sony CD-ROM                 /dev/sr0
  Device 3: Ricoh 128 meg optical disk  /dev/sdc
  Device 4: 90 meg hard disk            /dev/sdd

  You may have to fiddle a bit with the Adaptec BIOS setup if you want 
  to use more than 2 drives under DOS, but you will find that Linux
  simply recognises all your drives when it boots.

> Last, but not least... I have quota up and running from kernel
> version 1.1.21 - 1.1.37.  Once I upgraded to kernel 1.1.38 it
> didn't work.  Currently I use 1.1.41, is there any known fixes
> or soon to be released version of/for quota?  

  Sorry! Have never used quota... 


-- 
        +-------------------------------------------------------------+
        | Chris Butterworth          Mail: Chris@lunchbox.demon.co.uk |
        |             "Everybody does it in the Zone"                 |
        | Hours: 9:30pm -> Midnight, telnet lunchbox.demon.co.uk 7777 |
        +-------------------------------------------------------------+

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From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Boca 8 Port Board - Great For Linux
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 06:31:49 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Brian Kramer (bjkramer@pluto.njcc.com) wrote:
: > I have a slightly used 8 port board for linux.  I upgraded to a 16 port
: > and need to get rid of this.  It has cables for terminals but cables
: > for modems are easy to make.  Asking $110.

Did you operate modem logins with that board, and how? I have a 1004 and can't 
see how a modem should operate cleanly without DTR, DCD and RI...

-- 
Harald Milz (hm@seneca.ix.de)

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.motif
From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Free Motif GUI and API (clone) for Linux
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 06:35:31 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Jason Van Patten (vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu) wrote:
: >     Motif-based programs will RUN under fvwm however.  I've pulled a few
: > binaries off of sunsite that are for Motif, and they run without a problem.
: > However, if there's something you may need to tweak (for instance, those two
: > wonderful X-based text editors available on sunsite, asedit and nedit), you're
: > pretty much outta luck.

Motif binaries will run under a different window manager if they are statically
linked. This is the case for many apps on sunsite because the folks who 
compiled then know that only few people have the Motif shared libs. If
you have a dynamically linked Motif app, it won't run under fvwm. (err... 
it will if you have the Motif shared libs properly installed).

-- 
Harald Milz (hm@seneca.ix.de)

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From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Spying
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 06:41:22 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Tomi Orava (tomimo@ncircle.nullnet.fi) wrote:
: > Bogdan Urma (bogdan@crl.com) wrote:
: > >   Get ttysnoop.tgz from sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/Incoming

: > Have you got it to work already ? Here it just says something like
: > "can't accept on server socket" when someone executes ttysnoops file.
: > The /etc/snooptab is supposed to be OK.

Same here. I asked the author via email but didn't get an answer yet. 
BTW someone should volunteer to write some comprehensive documentation 
for that package. I still don't understand what ttysnoop is good for,
whereas the few doc roughly explains how to use ttysnoops. Any clue?

-- 
Harald Milz (hm@seneca.ix.de)

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From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Zyxel software?
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 06:44:28 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Russell Nelson (nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com) wrote:
: > In article <1994Aug7.231949.1@ids> vlad@ids.net writes:

: >    hey.. does anyone know of an ftp site that has software for Zyxel
: >    modems? I'm trying to set up a VMB. thanks...

: > Sure, look on sunsite.unc.edu for mgetty+sendfax.

That's not the answer to his original question, I'm afraid. He was looking 
for an FTP site with Zyxel software. He might look in 
ftp.sdsc.edu:/pub/other/zyxel . This is also mirrored elsewhere.
"archie -c zyxel" might give a clue.

-- 
Harald Milz (hm@seneca.ix.de)

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From: nomad@fx.net (David Wynn)
Subject: Re: Linux book(s)
Date: 9 Aug 1994 03:49:31 GMT

Jim Michael (genepool@netcom.com) wrote:
: Dan Newcombe (newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu) wrote:

: : I will be happy when I can go into a bookstore downtown Atlanta and get a book 
: : on Linux.  I'd probably get it whether I'd need it or not cause I'd think it's 
: : so neat.  :)

: I have already told the folks at Engineers Bookstore they would make a 
: killing if they stocked the linux cd's. Some books would do well here too.
: Are you listening EB?


..just a newsworthy note from a bookstore employee:

there are at least 2 books due out on Linux in October.. I was doing a 
search and came across them.. I can get the specs if anyone is interested 
& wants to mail me.. from what I recall they sounded promising!

David Wynn
nomad@fx.net

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