Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #573
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:13:20 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #573, Volume #2                 Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:13:20 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Needed: Read Linux Partition Under Dos (Robert Ashcroft)
  Re: Australian Linux Users Group List [semi-regular posting] (Mike Battersby)
  Re: Australian Linux Users Group List [semi-regular posting] (Mike Battersby)
  Help with mcopy (Rene van der Venne)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (David Konerding)
  FAQ? (Dan Cogswell)
  Re: Commercial Software available for Linux (was: WABI vs. SoftWindows?) (Mr S. Budd)
  Small problem compiling GNU gcc on Slackware Linux (Bill Hogan)
  Driver for Orchid Kelvin Card (Cirrus 5434) ? (Rupert Hollom)
  xvtdl-5.0? (N J Bailey)
  NFS gets confused on 8k+ writes? (me)
  Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion) (Rick Kelly)
  iBCS EMULATOR??? (Norm Walker)
  Re: Format DATs? (Stephen Thompson)
  Re: Video board help (considering five) (Stephen Thompson)
  HELP, searching ROGUE ! (Steffen Koehler)
  BBS System for Linux (Thomas Russell Hoover)
  Re: Would Linux *just* run on this setup (Adam Roach)
  Re: Needed: Read Linux Partition Under Dos (Adam Roach)
  Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion) (Chris Mauritz)
  errors in bootup (Allan Adler)
  Re: utility for creating video modes for X? (Shannon Hendrix)
  Re: Linux T-Shirts (Craig S. Maloney)

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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Needed: Read Linux Partition Under Dos
Date: 8 Aug 1994 06:42:37 GMT

In article <324j4f$m50@news.tamu.edu>, Adam Roach <adam@spam.tamu.edu> wrote:
>In article <3243et$epl@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>,
> <u7911507@cc.nctu.edu.tw> wrote:
>>Hi, every,
>>  Is there any utility that I can use to read Linux partition under
>>Dos? Please tell me. Thanks.
>
>Not to my knowledge, but DOSEMU can access the Linux partitions while
>emulating DOS. If your program will run under DOSEMU, you should be able
>to get to any files you wish.

And DOS files are readable and writable from Linux, so whatever is
in your Linux partition that you need, you could always copy to your
DOS partition in Linux, and then reboot and view in DOS.

RNA

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From: mibat2@penfold.cc.monash.edu.au (Mike Battersby)
Subject: Re: Australian Linux Users Group List [semi-regular posting]
Date: 8 Aug 1994 10:16:06 GMT

andrew@bing.apana.org.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff) writes:

>It's time again.
>Sorry for the somewhat sporadic nature of these posts, I'll try and force
>myself to post them regularly, honest !

Ever heard of crond(8)? :)

 - Mike


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From: mibat2@penfold.cc.monash.edu.au (Mike Battersby)
Subject: Re: Australian Linux Users Group List [semi-regular posting]
Date: 8 Aug 1994 10:17:56 GMT

andrew@bing.apana.org.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff) writes:
>LUV - the Linux Users of Victoria
>Notes : Send mail to luv-info@starbug.apana.org.au

Actually, this is probably obsolete. I believe it is being done at
grover.apana.org.au now, and you'll get a faster turn around time.
Don't quote me on it though.

 - Mike


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Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 10:34:34 +0200
From: U462007@vm.uci.kun.nl (Rene van der Venne)
Subject: Help with mcopy

I want to copy a file from the linux partition to the dos partition with
mcopy /vmlinuz c:/
But I keep getting the following message
Fat-read: Wrong FAT encoding
B.t.w. my entry for the dos partition in file /etc/mtools is
C /dev/hda1 16 0 0 0
Can somebody help me? Thanks in advance.

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From: rafael@cse.ucsc.edu (David Konerding)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: 8 Aug 1994 10:46:46 GMT

turnbull@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp wrote:
: In article <31lm03$6ts@hippo.shef.ac.uk>,
: Stuart Herbert <ac3slh@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:
: >
: >I have yet to see anyone sit down at a UNIX terminal for the very first time,
: >who has not read any material about UNIX, and be able to do *anything*.  Under
: >DOS, they normally get a directory listing up within 10 minutes.
: >
: >: Just think back to when you first sat at a Unix prompt.  I bet you
: >: were completely at a loss what to do.

        It all depends on the Unix system you log into!  My first account was
on somebody's diddly BSD4.3 machine across the country that wasn't user-
friendly.  So I sat there, with years of Apple IIe experience, wondering
what I could do.  Fortunately somebody taught me how to use 'forum' (sortof
precursor to 'irc') and from there, I could at least ask people questions.

        Eventually I learned about 'man' and scrabbled together enough info
to manipulate fiels, directories, and ftp.  Once I got on ftp I learned a
lot since I'd download things and they'd have instructions from which I could
learn.

        But I'm a hacker- I love peering into terminal screens late into
the night, learning about the intricacies of Unix.   Other people aren't so
patient or interested.

        Forunately, however, for my friends at Ssanta Cruz who had never
used the net before, or even heard of 'unix', the Computer department here
has scads of online tutorials, for unix, mail, news, etc.  All you have to do
it type 'help' and you're in-- and gophers are pretty easy to navigate.

        But if I have to explain to somebody that /bin/mail doesn't word
wrap or to save hit '.' on an empty line... ;)

--
  O~_    ---------------  David Konerding (University of California, Santa Cruz)
 c/ /'   ---------        rafael@cse.ucsc.edu
( ) \( ) -----            rafael@cats.ucsc.edu


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From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: FAQ?
Date: 7 Aug 94 07:07:48 GMT

Is there a Linux FAQ Q&A list somewhere?  How about a repository of
Linux stuff?  I want to try this beast at home since I'm sick to death
of DOS.
-- 
Dan Cogswell -- BOB #722
I'm in Scottsdale, Arizona, and I'm NOT WEARING PANTS.

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.sys.hp.apps
From: cmaae50@ic.ac.uk (Mr S. Budd)
Subject: Re: Commercial Software available for Linux (was: WABI vs. SoftWindows?)
Reply-To: s.budd@imperial.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:11:33 BST


In article <info.1126680016F@tigger.jvnc.net>, info@acc-corp.com (ACC Corp.) writes:
|> In Article <1994Aug4.091844.5544@desaster.student.uni-tuebingen.de>,
|> michaelw@desaster.student.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Will) wrote:
 
|> - We,  ACC Bookstores, produce a free "PC Unix and Linux Catalog" which
|> lists a lot of the commercial software that is being actively marketed on
|> the Linux OS.
|> 
|> 
|> Cheers,  Bob.
|> 
|> ACC Bookstores
|> "Home of the PC UNIX - Linux Catalog"
|> 1 (800) 546-7274
|> info@acc-corp.com


If you make it available free  Lets see in on
a Web server.  That would be a great help.

Sinclair BUdd
s.budd@imperial.ac.uk

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From: bhogan@crl.com (Bill Hogan)
Subject: Small problem compiling GNU gcc on Slackware Linux
Date: 7 Aug 1994 00:45:41 -0700

  Today for my first time I tried compiling gcc-2.5.8 my (basically) 
Slackware setup (Linux 1.0.9, gcc 2.5.8) but I ran into a small problem.

  The problem involves the fact that the GNU gcc Makefile is designed to
expect *all* the standard gcc header files in *one* directory, whereas
Linux has *almost* all of them in one directory but has another
(relatively small) bunch in a second directory,

  Here is a picture of my present understanding of what the GNU gcc 
*Makefile* expects, alongside what my Linux setup has: 

          GNU                                 Linux
                                                    
         /usr                                  /usr      
           |                                     |
         /local                           +------+-------+
           |                              |              |
        /include                       /include        /lib
           |                              |              |
  +--------+------?                (most gcc headers)  /gcc-lib
  |               |                                      |
(gcc headers)   /objc                                /i486-linux
                  |                                      |
             (objc headers)                           /2.5.8
                                                         |
                                                     /include
                                                         |
                                             +-----------+-----+
  I am not sure what                         |                 |
  my question should be                (more gcc headers)    /objc
  at this point but I suspect                                  |
  it is somehow implicit in this picture.              (objc headers)

  I would prefer to be able to compile GNU gcc straight out of the 
package, without klooging any "fixes" into its Makefile.

  Thank you in advance for you comments and suggestions.

  Bill
-- 
  Bill Hogan
{echo "Subject: get bhogan@crl.com" | mail pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu}

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From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Subject: Driver for Orchid Kelvin Card (Cirrus 5434) ?
Date: 8 Aug 1994 11:35:40 GMT

Hi,
  I have just tried to install the Fall '93 release of Yggdrasil
Linux, all went well until the 'xinit' part !

  The Orchid Kelvin card is based on the Cirrus 5434 chipset and the
Fall '93 build only supports up to 5426 (or is that 5428 ?), anyway
can I FTP the drivers (or whatever the UNIX term is ?) for the 5434
from somewhere ?

Cheers Rupert.

E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
URL : http://ilc.ecs.soton.ac.uk

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From: een6njb@sun.leeds.ac.uk (N J Bailey)
Subject: xvtdl-5.0?
Reply-To: een6njb@sun.leeds.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 11:37:29 GMT

Has anybody got xvtdl 5.0 to run on a Linux box?  I'm having problems getting
past the yytext undelcared error on compiling lex.yy.c  I'm using a tar
file called aje.linux.xvtdl-5.0.tar.gz, and only managed to get an executable
once, whereupon in complained that libxv for version 3.1 wasn't there 
(it isn't but 3.3 is!!)

ANy help much appreciated.

Nick.

---
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Lecturer in Electronic Engineering      Facsimile: +44 532 332032     
University of Leeds
Woodhouse Lane
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United Kingdom
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From: silly@dice.ugcs.caltech.edu (me)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: NFS gets confused on 8k+ writes?
Date: 8 Aug 1994 05:39:16 GMT

It's getting ridiculous, how much I'm asking for help, but I've reached 
another stumbling block that I can't seem to get past.

I have a successfully mounted the Linux ext2 partition from my SGI, after
adding "/ (rw)" to /etc/exports (insecure, I know, but this is a local 
network).  On the client end I have the following line in my /etc/fstab:

131.215.48.101:/ /net/goober/root nfs rw,noauto 0 0
(This is the SGI, and 131.215.48.101 is the correct address for the Linux
 box running nfsd -- I've now done some extensive network testing, and
 it seems to work fine, both before and after NFS fails)

I'm running the following services: syslogd, klogd, rpc.portmap, inetd,
named, rwhod, lpd, rpc.ugidd, crond, rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd.  When I attempt
to do a small (< 8k) write, it works fine, but a >8k write (copying a 10k
file from /net/goober/root/tmp/a to /net/goober/root/tmp/b) causes nfsd to
enter into a loop and the SGI to lose touch with the NFS server.  I 
remember reading that NFS uses 8k block sizes, and thought this might have
something to do with it.

I ran nfsd --debug and here's what happened on the copy of >8k (tagfile
was the file I was copying from and I've wrapped lines to improve
readability):

[fh_find is successful at finding the target, /tmp/testfile, and does some
 successful-looking getattr/setattr calls]

Aug  7 23:17:41 goober nfsd[53]: fh_find: psi=1476397058...
 found '/tmp/tagfile', fd=2
Aug  7 23:17:41 goober nfsd[53]: read[1 94/8/8 03:18:29 ogrebo 0.0+0,1,2,3,4]
 ^I/tmp/tagfile: 8192 bytes at 0
Aug  7 23:17:41 goober nfsd[53]: fh_find: psi=1476397058...
 found '/tmp/tagfile', fd=2
Aug  7 23:17:41 goober nfsd[53]: fh_fd: reusing fd=2
Aug  7 23:17:41 goober nfsd[53]: fh_find: psi=1476397058...
 found '/tmp/tagfile', fd=2
Aug  7 23:17:41 goober nfsd[53]: result: 0 ...
...
 
This block continues indefinitely, repeating about once per second.  Am
I missing something fundamental, or could someone help steer me in the right
direction?  I've read all the appropriate man pages (exports, mountd, nfsd,
ugidd, fstab, etc.) and the HOWTOs (Installation, Ethernet -- didn't see
anything substantial on NFS).

Thanks in advance for any clues,
(me)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent
From: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Subject: Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion)
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 05:17:04 GMT

Orc (orc@pell.com) wrote:
: In article <9408042225.16@rmkhome.com>, Rick Kelly <rmk@rmkhome.com> wrote:

: >Every UNIX box has a tape drive.

:    Well, if you don't count workstations or PC Unices, I'd be
: willing to believe that.  (I've worked on Suns where the only way
: to do backup was to find the one machine that has a tape drive and
: nfs-mount my filesystems onto that machine, or call my home machine
: and backup via a term connection.)

What I meant was that _I_ work in an environment where every unix box
has a tapedrive.


-- 

Rick Kelly  rmk@rmkhome.com  rmk@bedford.progress.com

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From: nwalker@cln.etc.bc.ca (Norm Walker)
Subject: iBCS EMULATOR???
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 06:07:13 GMT


Why is the iBCS package refered to as an emulator... it adds 
binary compatability not emulating per se.

I have tried it and it works great for everything that I had
-- 
Merritt Secondary School - Computer Support Teacher

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From: steve@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Thompson)
Subject: Re: Format DATs?
Date: 8 Aug 1994 02:16:35 GMT
Reply-To: steve@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Thompson)



|>Hi, is it necessary/possible to format 4mm DAT's for the 
|>Conner/Archive 2GB DAT under linux?  Is there a special
|>blocksize switch required for backups?


I use a digital TLZ04 and I just tell it to backup directly to /dev/rmt0
and it seems to format it itself. It also uses to the 4MM Dats, so I
guess this is the same as your problem

Stephen Thompson - South Pacific Technical Support
Digital Equipment Corp
DTN: 730-5566
+61-2-561-5566                     thompsons@a1.snofsa1.sno.MTS.dec.com
 

  

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From: steve@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Thompson)
Subject: Re: Video board help (considering five)
Date: 8 Aug 1994 02:21:57 GMT
Reply-To: steve@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Thompson)



|>
|>That's right, S3 support is still experimental (read: does not work
|>last I checked) under SVGALIB, so you might want to reconsider that
|>one.
|>


Mines working??? :-)

What problems do you have getting it to work

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From: msk@rz.uni-jena.de (Steffen Koehler)
Subject: HELP, searching ROGUE !
Date: 8 Aug 1994 13:20:37 GMT


Hello,

is there anyone there gas compiled the rogue-game at a linux-system.
I have only the BSD-Sources. There is the highscore damaged at the
second entree.

thanks in advance
Steffen
-- 

Mail: msk@hpux.rz.uni-jena.de


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From: thoover@infi.net (Thomas Russell Hoover)
Subject: BBS System for Linux
Date: 8 Aug 1994 13:41:57 GMT

I heard that there was a BBS package posted to a .source group - could
somebody fill me in on where to find this package? I think it was called         
"RoBoard" or some such ;)


Thanks,

Tom Hoover

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From: adam@spam.tamu.edu (Adam Roach)
Subject: Re: Would Linux *just* run on this setup
Date: 8 Aug 1994 06:23:30 GMT

Ivan Murray <Ivan.Murray@comp.vuw.ac.nz> wrote:
>I've got a 386/387 @ 20MHz, 4mb RAM and a 420Mb HD.  How usable would Linux be
>with this setup? 

I've got a 386sx/387 @ 16 MHz, 4 MB ram and a 325 MB HD. Linux runs just
fine on my system, although kernel compiles take forever. I usually start
them before I go to bed or leave for the day.

I have not tried installing X.


-- 

===========================================================================
    Adam Roach  ---  adamr@tamu.edu  ---  PGP 2.6 Public Key Available
================= WWW URL: http://ftp.tamu.edu/~abr8030 ===================

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From: adam@spam.tamu.edu (Adam Roach)
Subject: Re: Needed: Read Linux Partition Under Dos
Date: 8 Aug 1994 06:25:19 GMT

In article <3243et$epl@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>,
 <u7911507@cc.nctu.edu.tw> wrote:
>Hi, every,
>  Is there any utility that I can use to read Linux partition under
>Dos? Please tell me. Thanks.

Not to my knowledge, but DOSEMU can access the Linux partitions while
emulating DOS. If your program will run under DOSEMU, you should be able
to get to any files you wish.

-- 

===========================================================================
    Adam Roach  ---  adamr@tamu.edu  ---  PGP 2.6 Public Key Available
================= WWW URL: http://ftp.tamu.edu/~abr8030 ===================

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent
From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Chris Mauritz)
Subject: Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 14:29:36 GMT

Rick Kelly (rmk@rmkhome.com) wrote:
: Orc (orc@pell.com) wrote:
: : In article <9408042225.16@rmkhome.com>, Rick Kelly <rmk@rmkhome.com> wrote:

: : >Every UNIX box has a tape drive.

: :    Well, if you don't count workstations or PC Unices, I'd be
: : willing to believe that.  (I've worked on Suns where the only way
: : to do backup was to find the one machine that has a tape drive and
: : nfs-mount my filesystems onto that machine, or call my home machine
: : and backup via a term connection.)

: What I meant was that _I_ work in an environment where every unix box
: has a tapedrive.

Fine, but I don't think you're personal situation is indicative
of the situation of people in general.

Gee, I'm starting to sound like Addison.  :-)

Regards,

Chris
-- 
Christopher Mauritz       |  Ask me about public access unix
ritz@mordor.com           |  and interactive internet services.
Mordor International BBS  |  BBS: (201)433-7343,(212)843-3451
Jersey City, NJ           |  FAX: (201)433-4222

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From: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
Subject: errors in bootup
Date: 8 Aug 94 12:12:11


I get the following error messages when I boot up linux. They don't seem to
affect my ability to use linux in the ways I normally do, but I would
still like to understand them.

Here is what happens. At a certain point in bootup, it says:

/etc/rc.net:softland(192.0.2.128) Your network program needs upgrading
ioctl: invalid argument
Your network configuration needs upgrading
ioctl: invalid argument
 ,portmap, inetd, named Aug 6 18:23:59 named[38]: restarted
Aug 6 18:23:59 named[38]: directory /usr/etc/inet: No such file or directory
 ,nfs Cannot register service: RPC: Unable to send; errno = Network is 
 unreachable
unable to register(NFS_PROGRAM,NFS_VERSION,UDP)
 , mountd
Cannot register service: RPC: Unable to send;
 errno=Network is unreachable
Aug 6 18:24:01 init[1]: Entering runlevel: 6

After that, it eventually gives me the login prompt.

I'm using Linux 1.0. I have no ethernet card or anything like that.

Apart from natural curiosity, I am interested in trying to use the
parallelism package TCGMSG under linux. There is a port of it to linux
but I have been unable to get it to run on my system. So I would like to try to
eliminate whatever obvious networking problems might already exist on my sytem.

TCGMSG mostly works via a message passing interface. The port of it to Linux
uses SYS V semaphores and stuff. It also uses libipc, which has since been
incorporated into libc, but I can't use libc with this since libc was
compiled using BSD  semaphores and stuff.

Don't get the idea that I know what I am talking about.

Allan Adler
ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu


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From: shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix)
Subject: Re: utility for creating video modes for X?
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 20:29:41 GMT

cloister bell (cloister@u.washington.edu) wrote:

: ok, so maybe it's bad form to answer my own question, but i'm going to anyway.
: since i posted the question, i decided it couldn't be that hard to write such a
: utility, and i turned out to be correct.  it was really easy, in fact, which is
: why it surprises me that no such utility is included with the linux
: distribution (at least, not with slackware 2.0, which is what i used).

But Slackware 2.0 *DOES* come with such a utility.  It's called ConfigXF86.

-- 
csh
===========================================================================
shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (UUCP)     | Amd486/40 Linux system
shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Internet)          | Christopher Newport University

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From: craig@enterprise (Craig S. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Linux T-Shirts
Date: 8 Aug 1994 15:28:44 GMT

On 5 Aug 1994 11:27:36 -0700 John W. Fawcett (fawcett@connected.com) wrote the following...
:>In article <1994Aug3.225635.8909@kf8nh.wariat.org>,
:>Brandon S. Allbery <bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org> wrote:
:>>In article <31ofjq$1imi@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>, zimmermn@rchvmv.vnet.ibm.com says:
:>>+---------------
:>>| >And a "Virtual Brewery" shirt that is a little hard to explain in ASCII.
:>>| >They are in the new SSC catalog.  Send e-mail to sales@ssc.com with your
:>>| 
:>>| Darn!  I just ordered from SSC and they sent me another copy of the old
:>>| catalog.  :-(  "Virtual Brewery"???  The mind boggles. :-)
:>>+------------->8
:>>
:>>All that virtual beer for Linus has to come from somewhere :-)
:>>
:>That was, in fact, the main idea.

:>My name is John Fawcett and I am the individual that created the design for
:>the Virtual Brewery.  I agree with Phil that it is very hard to explain in
:>ASCII.  I can say, however, that it is a full 3D ray trace (my eternal
:>thanks to the Persistance Of Vision [POV] team).  The image required over
:>30 CPU *hours* on an HP 9000/750 to render into a 1000x1000 image.

:>You can see a picture of the image (O.K., it's kind of small, but then
:>again I have a limited budget) in the next issue of the Linux Journal.
:>Order from either me or SSC; it's the same stuff.

:>I have completed a couple of other designs using POV as well.  These two
:>are "Floating Point Eggception" (an egg in the middle of a bunch of
:>floating "points") and "Segmentation fault" (a worm with an error).
:>Pictures of these will be in the the LJ issue after this, if I get my
:>advertisement revised.

:>Best,
:>John
:>fawcett@hebron.connected.com

Could these pictures be posted for those of us who are Linux Journal-less?

Thanks in advance!

Craig

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Supervisor                                | Wayne State University
PC/Mac Systems, College of Engineering    | 5050 Anthony Wayne Drive
  Internet: craig@enterprise.eng.wayne.edu| Detroit, MI 48202
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