Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #571
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Date:     Mon, 8 Aug 94 00:13:09 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #571, Volume #2                 Mon, 8 Aug 94 00:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Call-Waiting and a modem, ideas??? (Mpfikes)
  Re: DOOM For X? (Kai Leibrandt)
  X-Windows True color support? (TSE FU WING)
  Need help on Linux NFS (Yong Chen)
  Would Linux *just* run on this setup (Ivan Murray)
  Needed: Read Linux Partition Under Dos
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Brandon S. Allbery)
  Need help with Ethernet (read HOWTO, stuck) SMC Plus Elite (me)
  Kernel Compile Problem (Brian Hartsfield)
  Video board help (considering five) (Eric Brown)
  Re: Need help with Ethernet (read HOWTO, stuck) SMC Plus Elite (Alan B. Evans)
  Re: Call-Waiting and a modem, ideas??? (Dave Sherohman)
  Linux Users in Atlanta
  Re: QIC-02 Driver (Scott Alfter)
  Re: Would Linux *just* run on this setup (Dave Sherohman)
  GUS sound card anyone? (David A. Vohwinkel)
  Re: I hope this wont ignite a major flame war, but Ive got to know! (Scott Michel)
  Re: Linux book(s) (Jim Harkins)
  Zyxel software? (vlad@ids.net)
  Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion) (Rick Kelly)
  Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion) (Rick Kelly)

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From: mpfikes@aol.com (Mpfikes)
Subject: Re: Call-Waiting and a modem, ideas???
Date: 7 Aug 1994 20:58:02 -0400

In article <323pmn$v64@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, naoumov@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU
(Sergei Naoumov) writes:

>So, my question is the following: is there any way to catch up this
>event from a modem, analyze it somehow and tell that someone is
>actually calling.

I don't think so.  You can probably dial the prefix *70 before the number
to temporarily turn off call waiting.  That way an incoming call will not
cause
your modem to lose carrier.

Mike Fikes
Mfikes@aol.com

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From: Kai.Leibrandt@brunel.ac.uk (Kai Leibrandt)
Subject: Re: DOOM For X?
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 12:01:31 GMT

David Fox (fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu) wrote:
: In article <31fm35$ck4@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au> ckup1@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Christopher Kuperman) writes:

: ] Would I be wrong in saying that DOOM for MS-DOS was
: ] solely constructed and designed to utilize and exploit
: ] very low-level hardware features...

: I think it would be only partially correct - it takes a lot more than
: assembly hacking to do what DOOM does.  I can't remember the specifics
: but I heard quite a bit about it at SIGGRAPH last week.  I believe
: that for all intents and purposes DOOM includes its own operating
: system.
: --
: David Fox                                             xoF divaD
: NYU Media Research Lab                           baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

Actually, DOOM for X has been available for almost a week now, ID have been
distributing binary only beta versions for SGI machines, on which it runs
(as could expected) *VERY* nicely. DOOM for linux should be out soon as
well, and to be honest, I don't believe it will be much slower than on the SG's, given proper hardware (486, fast graphics adaptors etc). Saying that, what 
is the point having 100's of fps anyway - 20 fps is more than enough to play   
and have lots of fun with it, and it's what were getting on 'box-standard'
Indigo elans here - at quadrupled pixels (makes it almos full-screen at   
1280x1024).
Check out ftp.uwp.edu, under /pub/msdos/games/id/sgixdoom.tar.Z, which is integrated version 1.6ish (?), I don't know about how far the Linux version is 
from dist.
Also try finger help@idsoftware.com for some info.

Hope to be of any help,


Kailee.
-- 
____________________________________________________________________

                   Interaction Design Research
____________________________________________________________________

Kai Leibrandt BSc(Hons)                   Kai.Leibrandt@brunel.ac.uk

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From: s901879@acs.csc.cuhk.hk (TSE FU WING)
Subject: X-Windows True color support?
Date: 4 Aug 1994 07:11:21 GMT

Hi everybody,

  I need to view a 24-bit true color picture on Linux system. I have
a Tseng Lab ET4000 24-bit true color SVGA card. Can someone tell me
that is it possible to do this (i.e. all the 16.7M true color can be
displayed on the screen at the same time?) If it is possible, which
software and drivers is required to install? Also, it is possible in
X-Windows with Linux? Which software and drivers is required in
X-windows?

Thanks a lot for those who give me the advice!

Regard. 


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From: yochen@eehpx36 (Yong Chen)
Subject: Need help on Linux NFS
Date: 4 Aug 1994 17:05:02 GMT

       Could someone please share some NFS experience with me ? I am
trying to mount "/home" on PC "empc08" to PC "empc05" under "/temp/home".
The error message I got is:

$ mount -t nfs empc08:/home /temp/home -o timeo=14,intr ---command line
" mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered "   ---message line

       The followings are the changes I made to some related files:

empc05.ece.uiuc.edu           \
empc05 root                    \  in "/etc/hosts.equiv"
empc08.ece.uiuc.edu            /     (empc08 and empc05)
empc08 root                   /

if [ -f ${NET}/rpc.portmap ]  \
then                           \
 echo -n " portmap"             \  in "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet2"
 ${NET}/rpc.portmap             /     (empc08 and empc05)
fi                             /
/usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd            /

/home empc05  =================>  in "/etc/exports" (empc08)

empc08:/home /temp/home nfs timeo=14,intr ==> in "/etc/fstab" (empc05)

       Any help is appreciated.

                                         Yong Hua Chen
                                         chen@fspark.ece.uiuc.edu



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From: Ivan.Murray@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Ivan Murray)
Subject: Would Linux *just* run on this setup
Date: 8 Aug 1994 01:36:20 GMT


I've got a 386/387 @ 20MHz, 4mb RAM and a 420Mb HD.  How usable would Linux be
with this setup? 


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From: u7911507@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Needed: Read Linux Partition Under Dos
Date: 8 Aug 1994 01:57:49 GMT

Hi, every,
  Is there any utility that I can use to read Linux partition under
Dos? Please tell me. Thanks.


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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 01:13:05 GMT

In article <Cu6r7v.7vA@epimbe.com>, vlcek@epimbe.com (James Vlcek) says:
+---------------
| as front-ends to UNIX apps on a platform which can support them.  I've
| been admonished by many Linuxoids "they've only just started working
| on WINE - give them time!"  What the hell - I'm going to tell my
| customers that?  Get real!
+------------->8

You sound like some of the stupider clients I've had to work with:  "if it
doesn't exist *now*, it obviously never will".  So Linux must obviously be
dead and not at all worth pursuing *at* *all*, huh?  All that attitude does is
make sure that it's true.

Some of us, on the other hand, are working on the assumption that there is a
future to build towards.

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH         [44.70.4.88]             bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
Linux development:  iBCS2, JNOS, MH

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From: silly@lust.ugcs.caltech.edu (me)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Need help with Ethernet (read HOWTO, stuck) SMC Plus Elite
Date: 8 Aug 1994 02:09:50 GMT

I'm running Linux on a machine connected to three others via a hub, and I've
run into a bit of a problem.  Linux (Slackware v1.02) detects the card and
the network *seems* to work normally.  However, at some point (say after
three minutes when running telnet), I'm suddenly disconnected and any
further attempts to access the network fail (network unreachable).

The network connection was via a phone-type (RG-45?) connector.  On the
off chance that the card "switched" to the coaxial port, I plugged in 
the coax from the machine next door, and still got "network unreachable".
Rebooting and trying out the coax only also failed after about 3 minutes.
This coax provides a reliable connection for the SGI, so it's not the
hub/wire.

As I see it, there are two other possibilities:

1) Broken network card (aka bad hardware)
2) Non-working driver or messed up kernel (aka bad software)

Can anyone suggest a way to determine which is at fault?

Thanks for your time,
(me)

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From: bh@eng.auburn.edu (Brian Hartsfield)
Subject: Kernel Compile Problem
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 00:52:51 GMT

I am having trouble compiling the kernel on my newly installed Linux system.
I think it is a problem of not having loaded a certain utility yet, but I
don't know what program that might be and the error messages are not helpful
for what it may be.

I do a make config and set everything up.  Then I run make dep and that runs
fine.  The when I run make clean or make all or make <anything> from the on
out, I get .depend:5:. *** Missing Separator. Stop.

I currently have kernel 1.0.9 and have tried compiling 1.1.0 and 1.1.23 with
the same results described above.  I have the latest gcc and the latest 
libs and all the include files with the gcc package plus the latest
verstions of bin-utils.  Any ideas as to what the problem is?  I think there
is just something I haven't installed yet, but I don't know what it might be.


--

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From: ebrown@pdsc.com (Eric Brown)
Subject: Video board help (considering five)
Date: 3 Aug 1994 16:22:27 GMT
Reply-To: ebrown@pdsc.com

I'm trying to decide between five video boards to run multipule OSes  
(Linux, Windows, Chicago & NT). Which is the best?
        ATI Graphics Wonder (mach32 chip)
        Actix Graphics Engine Ultra Plus (86C928 chip)
        Hercules Dynamite (ET4000/W32 chip)
        Genoa WindowsVGA 24 Accelerator (Cirrus Logic CL-GD5426 chip)
        STB Horizon (Cirrus Logic CL-GD5426 chip)

All are ISA, have refresh at 70Hz or better at 1024 x 768 and cost less  
than $200. Actix is the only board that uses VRAM or runs 60Hz or better  
at 1280 x 1024 but I'm not sure I need that resolution anyway.

Which of these are best and are there any other's I should consider?

Thanks,
Eric.
ebrown@pdsc.com

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From: aevans@kaiwan.com (Alan B. Evans)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Need help with Ethernet (read HOWTO, stuck) SMC Plus Elite
Date: 7 Aug 1994 19:16:24 -0700

me (silly@lust.ugcs.caltech.edu) wuz sayin:
: I'm running Linux on a machine connected to three others via a hub, and I've
: run into a bit of a problem.  Linux (Slackware v1.02) detects the card and
: the network *seems* to work normally.  However, at some point (say after
: three minutes when running telnet), I'm suddenly disconnected and any
: further attempts to access the network fail (network unreachable).

: The network connection was via a phone-type (RG-45?) connector.  On the
: off chance that the card "switched" to the coaxial port, I plugged in 
: the coax from the machine next door, and still got "network unreachable".
: Rebooting and trying out the coax only also failed after about 3 minutes.
: This coax provides a reliable connection for the SGI, so it's not the
: hub/wire.

: As I see it, there are two other possibilities:

: 1) Broken network card (aka bad hardware)
: 2) Non-working driver or messed up kernel (aka bad software)

: Can anyone suggest a way to determine which is at fault?

: Thanks for your time,
: (me)

Don't startup routed. routed does exactly this after you boot
your machine.

Alan
-- 
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Internet : aevans@kaiwan.com, fa996@cleveland.freenet.edu
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         :  117 59'     West            :  117 59' 54"  West

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: esper@a12.math.umn.edu (Dave Sherohman)
Subject: Re: Call-Waiting and a modem, ideas???
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 02:20:14 GMT

In article <323pmn$v64@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> naoumov@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Sergei Naoumov) writes:
>So, my question is the following: is there any way to catch up this
>event from a modem, analyze it somehow and tell that someone is
>actually calling. Then I would put my modem session "on hold", talk
>to a person and go back. The idea is a little bit crazy and I feel
>there should be some difficulties about a hardware but in principle...
>What do you think?

I don't think it's likely that you'll be able to reliably identify call waiting
with your modem, much less put your modem session 'on hold' reliably.  And if
you got that to work, your modem would lose carrier and hang up before you
got back.

If, OTOH, you just want to disable call-waiting for the duration of your
dialin session, all you have to do is dial *70 (1170 for pulse lines) and
anyone calling you will get a busy signal without disrupting your data
connection.

-- 
esper@ima.umn.edu

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From: cmattern@mindspring.com ()
Subject: Linux Users in Atlanta
Date: 8 Aug 1994 02:15:10 GMT
Reply-To: cmattern@mindspring.com

Just checking:

Are ther any known Atlanta area Linux Users Groups?
If not any interest in forming one?

--
===================================================================
|Chuck Mattern           | "Not failure, but low aim, is crime."  |
|cmattern@mindspring.com | -James Russell Lowell-                 |
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From: Scott.Alfter@skunkworks.genesplicer.org (Scott Alfter)
Date: 07 Aug 94 16:47:31 -0800
Subject: Re: QIC-02 Driver

In article <25433@f10.n209.z1>, Brian Hartsfield <bh@eng.auburn.edu> wrote:
>I have had my Linux stuff down for a while and am now ready to start it back
>up again, but I can't find by QIC-02 driver for Linux I had and can't
>seem to find it again on any of the ftp site.
>
>Where can I get the QIC-02 driver from?

It's been a part of standard kernel distributions since at least v1.0,
and might've been in some of the newer 0.99 versions as well.

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 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!           audio for your Apple IIe/IIc!
(IIGS(  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis 1:209/263 Apple II, Linux, Trek, more!
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From: esper@a12.math.umn.edu (Dave Sherohman)
Subject: Re: Would Linux *just* run on this setup
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 02:24:25 GMT

In article <32426k$gm7@st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz> Ivan.Murray@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Ivan Murray) writes:
>I've got a 386/387 @ 20MHz, 4mb RAM and a 420Mb HD.  How usable would Linux be
>with this setup? 

I'm running linux on a 386 @ 16/24 MHz, 4 Mb, 170 HD, and it works well.  I
just wish I had a bigger HD - to get reasonable access to my stockpile of DOS
games, I gave DOS 75 MB, and 50 MB of Linux system files takes a big chunk out
of what's left...  Speed, however, is _not_ a problem.  (On the contrary, I
can have multiple Linux sessions going and it's still faster than MS-DOG...)

-- 
esper@ima.umn.edu

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From: vohwi-d@acsu.buffalo.edu (David A. Vohwinkel)
Subject: GUS sound card anyone?
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 02:53:54 GMT


Has anyone had any problems with the GUS under Linux?

        Thanks

         -Dave-


-- 
  David A Vohwinkel        
Unix Consulting   ^ ^     vohwi-d@acsu.buffalo.edu
  & Operations    0 0    @ The State University of New York at Buffalo   
==============oOO=(_)=OOo====================================================

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: michel@lightning.seas.ucla.edu (Scott Michel)
Subject: Re: I hope this wont ignite a major flame war, but Ive got to know!
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 18:19:43 GMT

In article <31d5ls$8e9@quagga.ru.ac.za> csgr@cs.ru.ac.za writes:
>I think this may depend on the implementation.  Solaries, for instance,
>does things by implementing BSD sockets on top of SYSV streams, which
>does cause enough of its own unique problems, and causes a massive
>performance hit (an IPC running SunOS 4.1.1 gets better network
>performance than a CLassic runing SunOS 5.2).
>As a reference, have a look at "Implementing Berkeley Sockets in System
>V Release 4" by Ian Vessey and Glenn Skinner (Sun Microsystems).  (I
>have a postscript copy available.)

Most x86 System V's use Lachman's TCP/IP package (I know that SCO
and Interactive did) which is based on top of Streams. But there
are some optimizations that Lachman did to make it faster. And there
are numerous stream buffer parameters that can be tuned.

Keep in mind that Streams was designed to implement the ISO 8 layer
model, and not the IP 4 layer. It was also designed to allow
flexibility in configuring multiple protocols (like ISO requires).

Yes, most implementations of sockets on top of streams are hideous, but
it should have been possible to rewrite sockets in terms of the TLI
package (which I don't think is going on). Conceptually sockets and TLI
implement the same thing.

-scottm

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From: jharkins@netcom.com (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Linux book(s)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 03:34:50 GMT

In article <31u9fk$9hl@ruby.ora.com>, Andy Oram <andyo@ruby.ora.com> wrote:
>
>Right now, we're just working on putting out Olaf Kirch's Network
>Administration Guide.

What I want to know is, Have you people ever put out a bad book?  I've
got several books of yours and every one of them is pretty damn good.
I can't say this about any other publisher.  All Linux users should
have  Unix Power Tools if nothing else.

jim

-- 
"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather.  Not screaming
in terror like his passengers."

Jim Harkins                          jharkins@netcom.com 
San Diego, CA.


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From: vlad@ids.net
Subject: Zyxel software?
Date: 7 Aug 94 23:19:49 EST

 hey.. does anyone know of an ftp site that has software for Zyxel modems? I'm
trying to set up a VMB. thanks...

     ==
 eat a spider
close your eyes
   combust
      ==


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent
From: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Subject: Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion)
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 23:14:54 GMT

Mark Bolzern (mark@gcs.com) wrote:
: In article <9408012206.15@rmkhome.com>, Rick Kelly <rmk@rmkhome.com> wrote:
: >Drew Eckhardt (drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu) wrote:
: >
: >If I really wanted Linux, yes, I would get it on CD-ROM, as I wouldn't
: >want to load 30 or 40 floppies, and I haven't seen any Linux distributions
: >on tape.  But I would consider the price of the CD drive as part of the
: >price for Linux.

: That is because tapes cost about 15.00 in quantity, and take an eternity
: to reproduce (Write).  Production costs on tape media are on the order of
: $100.  Buy the CD-Rom Drive.  It won't cost you any more than buying Linux
: on tape media would.

Linux on tape would cost over $300?

You can get Unixware on tape for less than that.  (Same price as floppy
or CD)

Professional tape machines can make 10 tapes at a time, or more.


-- 

Rick Kelly  rmk@rmkhome.com  rmk@bedford.progress.com

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent
From: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Subject: Re: Coherent & Linux (Was : A Truly Unbiased Opinion)
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 23:24:21 GMT

dylan@sycamore.aix.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com wrote:
: Rick Kelly (rmk@rmkhome.com) wrote:

: : 1. Find a CD-ROM drive.

: : 2. Shutdown the running UNIX system after throwing the users off.

: You have to _shut down_ your machine to put a SCSI device on it?
: Tell me the vendor name so I can avoid it at all costs! If I need to
: get a CD-ROM on our machine, I just plug it onto the external SCSI
: device connector, put a terminator on it, and run the config manager,
: all of which takes less than 30 seconds.

Guess you've never used Sun workstations, Intel AT clones, and host of
other boxes whose controllers will take a dive if the terminator is
removed.

If you have an Adaptec SCSI controller previous to 1542C then you must
shutdown the machine, remove the card, and remove the terminators from
the card before reinstalling it.

Now, if you're using an IBM RS/6000, then you can plug in external SCSI
peripherals on the fly.


-- 

Rick Kelly  rmk@rmkhome.com  rmk@bedford.progress.com

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