Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #566
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Sun, 7 Aug 94 08:13:09 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #566, Volume #2                 Sun, 7 Aug 94 08:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Benchmark test suite for Linux? (Bogdan Urma)
  Linux on a portable (Sergei Naoumov)
  Re: Question about networking with linux? (Nicolas BOUGUES)
  Re: Linux fragments easially (Nick Kralevich)
  Re: STREAMS  (was I hope this wont ignite ...) (Vernon Schryver)
  Re: Memacs for Linux (working?) (Beeblebrox)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  Re: Just Computers advertising practices (Randy Just)
  Re: Panasonic CR562B CDROM advice requested (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
  Re: How to connect four CDROM drives? (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Christian Moen)
  Straw Poll:  Linux shirts? (Kevin S Ho)
  QUOTA HELP (G. Browning)
  Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Orc)
  X windows scrolling left and hangs (Paul Tomblin)
  Dialup? (Harold Marks)
  Installation of DOSEMU (Eric P. Miller)
  Just Computers advertising practices (Shawn Thomas)
  Memacs for Linux (working?) (Richard Dalton)
  Re: dip with a pulse phone line (Hans-Georg von Zezschwitz)
  Re: GETOPTS problem in BASH (Thomas G. McWilliams)
  Re: Usefulness of BSD/Linux Source Knowledge (Ch. Buckley)
  Re: WINE + 1.1.[22-38] = segmentation fault (Tomi Leppikangas)

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From: bogdan@crl.com (Bogdan Urma)
Subject: Benchmark test suite for Linux?
Date: 6 Aug 1994 20:02:36 -0700

  Where can I find some benchmark utilities for Linux which include the
SPECfp92 + SPECint92 + Xstone programs?

Thanks,
Bogdan
bogdan@crl.com


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From: naoumov@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Sergei Naoumov)
Subject: Linux on a portable
Date: 3 Aug 1994 18:43:47 GMT


Hey, folks!
Does anybody have an experience running X on a laptop? How is
it? I'm thinking about buying a laptop and putting Linux there
but does it worth to put X? If not, I won't spend a lot of
money for RAM and other stuff like this.

        Sergei

-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+   Sergei O. Naoumov  serge@envy.astro.unc.edu  tel: (919)962-3998   +
+Department of Physics & Astronomy, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA+
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


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From: nicolas@magix.uucp (Nicolas BOUGUES)
Subject: Re: Question about networking with linux?
Date: 7 Aug 1994 00:46:35 -0400

Dans un elan de genie, Sherman Hsieh (hsiehs@access.intelsat.int) a ecrit:

: Does any one out there know if there are any token ring adapters that works
: with linux?(driver and hardware) Thanks

Right now, there are no Toker Ring drivers avaible. And as far as I now,
there is no plan for such a development.

--
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
Nicolas BOUGUES
nbougues@renux.frmug.fr.net
Operator of magix : ++ 33 (1) 45 21 02 52

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From: nickkral@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Nick Kralevich)
Subject: Re: Linux fragments easially
Date: 4 Aug 1994 00:51:04 GMT

In article <31pbkj$n74@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Nick Kralevich <nickkral@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>
>I can't figure out why I have such a fragmented file
>system.  I ran "frag", and came up with the following
>results -- slackware 2.0.0, 1.1.37 kernel:

I forgot to include the fact that I am using the ext2fs file
system, which was (I thought) designed to prevent fragmentation.

Thanks,
-- Nick Kralevich
   nickkral@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu

-- 
Nick Kralevich                        nickkral@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu
"A man sits with a pretty girl for an hour and it seems shorter than 
a minute.  But tell that same man to sit on a hot stove for a minute, 
it is longer than any hour.  That's relativity."  -- Einstein

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: STREAMS  (was I hope this wont ignite ...)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 02:43:25 GMT

In article <31ve5c$4b1@u.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) writes:
>In article <Cu2Ey9.2oM@calcite.rhyolite.com> vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:
>] Unfortunately, all of those put and service functions and the generic
>] nature of the stream head and scheduler ensure that STREAMS are never
>] as fast as sockets.  I think you can make "page flipping" and "hardware
>] checksumming" work with STREAMS (two primary techniques for fast
>] networking), but I doubt it is possible to make a "squashed STREAMS
>] stack" without doing fatal violence to the fundamental ideas of STREAMS.

> ...
>One "trick" that does do "fatal violence to the fundamental ideas of
>STREAMS" (I like that phrase) is doubly mapping the buffers, pinning
>the pages, and passing the address rather than the data itself.  This
>requires pre-preparing the page mapping so the kernel and user space
>mapping is the same.  Packet assembly at the stram "tail" must take
>this into account, but if done correctly, this will save two copies
>and a *lot* of page overhead on a 386 (less so on a 486 or other
>rational kernel page protecting architecture).

That's exactly what I call "page flipping."  I don't think it does
violence to STREAMS.   Simply create a new STREAMS buffer type.  It's
easier to create STREAMS buffer types than fancy mbuf clusters.  I don't
know why fewer people play such games with STREAMS buffers than mbufs.
"Type 3" mbufs were the rage at Sun in 1986.  My FDDI code has been
"page flipping" mbufs for years, with gratifying performance results.
HP's FDDI code also page flips, with performance almost as good.  Output
page flipping is quite easy if you have copy-on-write.  Input is harder,
but modifying ld(1) to page align big buffers by default or special
option makes it practical.


>Another "trick" is to preallocate the buffers to include the protocol
>header and thus avoid the assembly entirely (leaving only the copy
>to card memory, and only that if that is a considration and the card
>doesn't DMA from main memory).  This does violence to the buffer return
>and the stream head, and generally doubles the buffer memory consumption
>(to be safe).  The user space copyin is done into the real buffer as
>a unit instead of into "real" (seperate) mbufs.  This techniques is
>not usable simultaneously with the previous one, unless the user space
>application has incestuous knowledge of the protocol and can handle
>skipping the encapsulation (header) data in dealing with the buffer
>contents.

This is an ancient BSD mbuf trick.  I don't think it does any violence
to STREAMS.  At most your STREAMS modules have to peak at STREAMS buffer
reference counts and know more than they should about the underlying
implementation of the buffers (e.g. to do as you say and avoid writing
on buffers that are not really simple buffers.)  My first commerical
STREAMS code in 1986 played such games to make tty's go faster on 68000
some based systems.  (That's not intended as a brag, but proof it's not
rocket science.)


>STREAMS can be high performance, but, as you note, at almost the
>penalty of not being STREAMS any more except in the technical sense.

I disagree.  I don't think you can build what I understand Van Jacobson
calls a "squashed stack" without changing the STREAM head code beyond
recognition.  Remember that Jacobson's neat idea (as I understand it)
is to cache the entire pile of headers, from TCP through MAC, and when
the user makes a write(2) call, combine a copy of that cached glob of
headers with the user's data while doing the TCP checksum, make the
mindless modifications about 10 bytes among to those 54 bytes (for
Ethernet) or 64 bytes (for FDDI with typical MACs), and stick the result
on the MAC chip's DMA queue.  Those mindless modifications consist
of adding values to the previous contents--e.g. TCP seq #, IP ID,
and IP cksum.  Note that there is no ARP lookup, no running through
TCP state machine switches, and no IP fiddling.  It's just "header
prediction" or "header compression" taken to it's obvious conclusion.
("obvious" once you're told about it, that is).

Think about how the STREAMS head would have to be smart enough to do
all of this and bypass all of the put and service functions, except when
something exceptional has happened in which case it must do the old
fashioned stuff.  Note also that the STREAMS head would have to arrange
to keep the user data around on some queue somewhere in case of
retransmissions.  On the other hand, not having seen Van Jacobson's
code, but having thought a little about it, this seems to me like fairly
straight forward violence to the BSD sosend() function--yeah, I understand
the protocol switch is much changed and sosend() may not be called
sosend() anymore, but those are not a big deal.


Vernon Schryver    vjs@rhyolite.com

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: M.S.Ashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Beeblebrox)
Subject: Re: Memacs for Linux (working?)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 15:32:44 GMT

Richard.Dalton@newcastle.ac.uk (Richard Dalton) writes:

>Is it just me and my machine or does it not work!?! 

Works fine for me.

>It hangs when doing anything with CTRL X, 

CTRL-S maybe...
Check "stty", otherwise I've no idea - try getting it again.
___
M.S.Ashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk              M.S.Ashton@csv.warwick.ac.uk
C++ consultant and emacs support.         Mail me if you have any problems.

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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: 7 Aug 1994 04:03:36 -0600

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.


Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu>  (urgent email: iwj10@phx.cam.ac.uk)
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 223 64238

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From: rjust@crl.com (Randy Just)
Subject: Re: Just Computers advertising practices
Date: 5 Aug 1994 08:59:08 -0700

Just Computers! Replies
 
Shawn, I looked through our database and indeed, we have no record or you or 
even more the to the point, no e-mail address.  Though other companies in 
fact do send out electronic junk mail (we receive our fair share), this is a 
practice we do not participate in.  We operate a mailserver and I thought 
you might have received mail through that, but after reviewing the log there 
is no record of you contacting the system.
 
It is possible that a reply was sent to you accidentally that was intended 
for someone else as we do send replies to people requesting information from 
the newsgroups. No one else has indicated the receipt junk mail, so I am 
assuming this is an isolated case. If anyone in fact has received junk mail, 
please let us know by sending e-mail to rjust@justcomp.com  Possibly someone 
might be using an alias.
 
As was indicated in an e-mail message to Shawn, we would like to see a 
sample of the e-mail message.  I am curious as to its origin.
 
Just Computers! is surprised that we weren't contacted directly by Shawn 
regarding the junk e-mail asking about it or at least a request to be 
removed from a list prior to him posting a message on the net.
 
We deal with our customers honestly and fairly.  We are in business for the 
long term and Linux materials are a big part of our business.  We not only 
resell Linux materials, but spend time speaking to user groups sharing the 
vision, supplying information to folks freely and so forth. Time is spent 
writing articles in publications to educate people about Linux.  We are part 
of the Linux community and negative statements against us by that same 
community is distressful. 

Randy Just, Owner of Just Computers!


Randy Just              | Voice: 707-769-1648        | Resellers of LINUX on
Just Computers!         |   FAX: 707-765-2447        | CD-ROM  
P.O. Box 751414         | Email: rjust@justcomp.com  | Visa/MC, International
Petaluma, CA 94975-1414 | MServer: info@justcomp.com (say "help" in message

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Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 13:27:20 +0200
From: Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
Subject: Re: Panasonic CR562B CDROM advice requested


Hello Luke M Kaven and all others,

on 05.08.94 Luke M Kaven wrote to All in USENET.COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC:

LMK> We purchased 4 Panasonic CR562B CD-ROM drives for use with a
LMK> Linux host acting as a CD-ROM server.

Good start. You can extend it up to 16 CDROM drives.

LMK>   Now that we have received the drives, I am unsure of how I am intended
LMK> to configure them.  The documentation is embarassingly uninformative,
LMK> saying nothing about what kind of interface cards are to be used.
LMK>
LMK> README.sbpcd tells me a lot, but there is still one question.
LMK> The vendor has tried to tell me that the drives work with
LMK> standard IDE interfaces?  Is this TRUE?  I don't understand
LMK> that, and I didn't think that this drive was an standard
LMK> IDE drive.

The drives use a 40-pin connector, and the layout of the
interface is oriented on (but not compatible to) the
ATA or IDE hard disk interface. Do not plug it onto a
hard disk controller.

LMK> Could someone offer me any advice on which kind of interface
LMK> card is the appropriate one to use in this instance?

You can use any sound card which has a "Matsushita" or
"Panasonic" interface, or you can get a cheap little
"no-sound" interface card like WDH-7001C (about 20$,
after german prices) and jumper it for "Panasonic".

You can plug up to 4 drives onto one cable - just jumper
them for unique drive ids.

Greetings ... Eberhard


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Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 23:40:47 +0200
From: Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
Subject: Re: How to connect four CDROM drives?


Hello Karl Eichwalder and all others,

on 06.08.94 Karl Eichwalder wrote to All in USENET.COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC:

KE> Before Eberhard starts shouting again ;-)

I accidently have answered the original question in C.O.L.admin
(I hate crossposting).

>> Although I know now that one can use the various SoundBlaster
>> cards as an interface to the Panasonic CR562B CD-ROM drive,
>> I would like to know what interface I must use to connect
>> multiple drives.

Just the same.

KE> OK, in the README we are still missing some nice sketches how to make
KE> the appropriate cables and how to plug more than one or two -- not to
KE> mention 16 -- drives in a standard Linux box ;-)

Don Carroll (I guess he is the first Linuxer with 16 Panasonic
drives in 1 machine ;-) says the cable length is not very critical.
So, one can take any lot of cases and build a tower upon the tower.

Awaiting any requests for driving #17...

Greetings ... Eberhard


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From: christim@gymir.ifi.uio.no (Christian Moen)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: 07 Aug 1994 10:44:12 GMT

On 6 Aug 1994 20:25:00 GMT, paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans) said:

> I took the liberty to cut a lot of "Yes,it is - No, it isn't". What
> it all seems to boil down to is that you (=Jim) think that Linux
> isn't going to make it because it is "...yet another Unix flavor..."
> But if Linux is yet another UF, then why is not UnixWare?

Probably because UnixWare is SVR4.2 - the self appointed "real thing
(tm)". Don't get me wrong, I do like standards, but the commercial
SVRism's little room for BSDism was probably the biggest mistake in
the history of Unix. This has led to several incompatabilities.

Lots of SVR Unices today relies on BSD socket libraries as very few
applications supports the SYSV TLI. The amusing thing is that both TLI
and BSD sockets will be part of the XPG4. Such stupidity is costly and
best avoided, especially when the whole Unix industry is threatened by
Windows NT.

Best regards,

--
/ Christian Moen - christim@ifi.uio.no - http://www.ifi.uio.no/~christim/  \
\ Fjellbirkeland 21A 114, N-0864 Oslo, Norway - Tel: +47 22 187103 - *<8O) /




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From: ksh@charybdis.prl.ufl.edu (Kevin S Ho)
Subject: Straw Poll:  Linux shirts?
Date: 04 Aug 1994 01:11:16 GMT


It seems to be the right time for more liinux shirts.

about 1 year ago, I printed up some "friends don't let friends use DOS"
shirts, which were from the "partnership for a DOS free america" :-)

Now I feel it is time for MORE!
so:  if youare interested in this idea, mail me.
(I'm not going to go drwing up shirts and taking orders unless I feel 
there is adequate demand)

        ksh

P.S.  send dsign ideas too, i have some that I wil post soon.

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From: gbrownin@sun1.iusb.indiana.edu (G. Browning)
Subject: QUOTA HELP
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:24:40 GMT

I need some help...

I had Quota-1.33 up and running with kernel 1.1.37 no problem,
however, it will not work with 1.1.38 or 1.1.39 (well, obviously
since it didnt work with 38 it wouldnt work with 39, right?)

Is there a new version of Quota out or on the way?  I really
would like to keep up on the kernel versions, but I do need
the quota file system.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Gary R. Browning, IUSB Computer Services




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From: orc@pell.com (Orc)
Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 18:37:27 GMT

In article <1994Aug02.211505.22550@taylor.infi.net>,
Mark A. Davis <mark@taylor.infi.net> wrote:
>orc@pell.com (Orc) writes:

>>In article <31krab$6kc@wombat.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au>,
>>Chris Bitmead <chrisb@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> wrote:

>>>Name one aspect of unix that forces extra administration tasks on a user.

>>   You can turn off a windows machine in midflight and not worry
>>about filesystem damage.
 [...]
>So you have to sync (preferably shutdown) first.  Really, no big deal.
>If you have a more active file system or multiuser, then a UPS is a necessity
>anyway.

   But it's still additional work you have to do.  Whether or not
it's makes a better filesystem isn't extraordinarily important if
the user is expecting to do nothing aside from lunging for the
power switch.

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ and I've been a unix hacker since '79, too.
                  \/

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From: pt@gandalf.ca (Paul Tomblin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: X windows scrolling left and hangs
Date: 3 Aug 1994 16:15:27 -0400
Reply-To: ptomblin@gandalf.ca

One of the Linux boxes at work has a strange problem.  After working away for
a while, the window suddenly starts slowly marching left across the screen.
It wraps around, but a ghostly image of the xterm border and the virtual
desktop stays where it was.  When this happens, you can't switch X
resolutions (ctrl-alt-plus), you can't kill X (ctrl-alt-bs), and you can't
switch to another virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-f2).  You can telnet into the
box, however.  Nothing unusual appears to be happening - X or the window
manager isn't running wild.

This appears to happen using either fvwm or olvwm.

I have 11 other machines in the lab, and one at home, and none of them
exhibit these effects.  All the machines at work are running Slackware 1.2.0,
with the stock kernel and libraries that with it.  My home machine is running
Slackware 2.0, again, all stock. The differences between the other machines
and this one:

            Viking         Other machines
HD          SCSI           IDE
X server    XF86_VGA16     XF86_SVGA or XF86_S3
Monitor Res 656x492        1072x800  or 1024x768i

The Xconfig on Viking was created by that program for creating Xconfig files
whose name I just forgot - but it came with Slackware 2.0.

Has anybody seen such a wierd thing happen, and know how to fix it?

-- 
Paul Tomblin, Head - Automation Design Group.
Gandalf Canada Limited
This is not an official statement of Gandalf, or of Vicki Robinson.
"Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as Linux"

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From: samadams@brahms.udel.edu (Harold Marks)
Subject: Dialup?
Date: 3 Aug 1994 16:48:55 -0400

Here is what I want to do maybe some of you can help me.  I am testing a MUD on
my linux system, that is NOT hooked into the internet.  I useually just 
telnet localhost 4000 and log in.  I was thinking it would be cool if some
of my friends could call my line and through modem logon to my system, and Mud with me, and maybe even have an account.  I know this must be possible, since I basically do this when I dielup to the UDELNET.  What possible software could I use to achieve this?

My SECOND QUESTION is I have an AST laptop, my 14.4 modem is a PCMCIA card, 
in dos I had my autoexec.bat file installed a megahertz driver for my modem.
I am not sure if it works without this driver, but if it doesn't do they have
linux drivers or how does that work?

Thanks again for ANY help!!!!!


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From: foemill@gumby.lerc.nasa.gov (Eric P. Miller)
Subject: Installation of DOSEMU
Date: 3 Aug 1994 20:46:45 GMT


  I have a question about the installation of DOS Emu on my Linux box.
I read in the HOWTO about running FDISK /MBR as a part of the procedure.
I also read that one way of getting rid if LILO is to do the same.  My
question is that if I run FDISK /MBR will I lose my partition information
and have to re-install everything for the sake of having DOS running
with Linux?  I'd like to get it running, but not if it'll scrap my
drive first.  BTW.... I'm running 1.0.9 Slackware.  What version of 
DOSEMU should I install to run with it??  Do I need a 1.1.x version of
Linux?

Any info about this would be greatly appreciated.

--Eric
-- 
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| E-mail: foemill@gumby.lerc.nasa.gov  |   - Isaiah            |
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From: smthomas@unixg.ubc.ca (Shawn Thomas)
Subject: Just Computers advertising practices
Date: 4 Aug 1994 01:18:27 GMT

Oh, what a sad day it is.  I just deleted my very first piece of 
electronic JUNK MAIL!  

I thought perhaps the net was a safe haven from this kind of annoyance, 
but as more and more people use the net, the bigger the dollar signs in 
the eyes of business men, I suppose.

Just Computers sent me an ad for their Linux Professional package on 
CD-ROM, for something in the area of $40.  I didn't request any 
information on such an item, in fact I've never heard of them.  What's 
worse is that these guys/gals know what they're doing.  If they posted 
such an ad in public newsgroups they'd be flamed to hell and back, so 
instead they keep an archive of posters to the Linux groups (that's how I 
assume they got my name/address) and e-mail the ad instead.

To the people of Just Computers, I can only hope that this was a server 
glitch and that there won't be any further unwanted mailings.  I don't 
look forward to the day that I spend more time (and MONEY!) filtering 
through junk e-mail rather than replying to genuine letters.

Regards,

Shawn.
 

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Shawn M. Thomas                   :  Due to an administrative error, 
Student of Computer Science       :  tomorrow will have to be rescheduled
University of British Columbia    :  to the day after. ;)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: Richard.Dalton@newcastle.ac.uk (Richard Dalton)
Subject: Memacs for Linux (working?)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 14:10:07 GMT


Thanks to those who replied to my Qu. about the whereabouts of 'memacs' (uemacs)
Is it just me and my machine or does it not work!?! It hangs when doing anything
with CTRL X, and lots of other keys too ... making it totally unusable. Am I
missing smoething obvious? Is there a version that works? This is version 3.11a
i've got, is there an older more stable version out there? Help please!

        Rich
===============================================================================
            Richard Dalton              |       Dept. of Computing Science
 Email: Richard.Dalton@Newcastle.ac.uk  |   University of Newcastle Upon Tyne
===============================================================================

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From: 1zezschw@rzdspc2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Hans-Georg von Zezschwitz)
Subject: Re: dip with a pulse phone line
Date: 7 Aug 94 11:33:27 GMT

bandy@paul.cs.umn.edu (Tim D. Bandy) writes:

>just doesn't work.  So, is there a configuration somewhere for dip that
>is set for dial=AT DP?  Perhaps I could recompile it for pulse?  Or, should

I had the same problem. The April-version of DIP was able to use pulse-dialing
(either by giving and ATDP command or by using the default - just giving out
ATD ....), the July(?)-Version uses ATDT.

I had a look at DIP with SHE (a file editor you can get from sunsite.unc.edu).
The command is at location 0x2A32. Try to patch the DT to DP!

Hope this helps,

Georg


==============================================================================
H. Georg v.Zezschwitz             eMail:  zeschwitz@uke.uni-hamburg.de
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: tgm@netcom.com (Thomas G. McWilliams)
Subject: Re: GETOPTS problem in BASH
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 00:54:49 GMT

David Huron - Conrad Grebel (dhuron@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: We are having trouble getting "getopts" to work under bash. 
: It is very important that we figure out what is wrong and fix it soon.
: We have had no such problems with other shells, and it seems to work under
: pdksh on Linux, but we would like to use bash.

More expertise on bash can be found in the newsgroup gnu.bash.bug.
There are quite a few different rev levels of bash in general use
so you should specify which version you are using.

tgm@netcom.com

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: ceb@netcom4.netcom.com (Ch. Buckley)
Subject: Re: Usefulness of BSD/Linux Source Knowledge
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 18:13:26 GMT

In article <31n3nm$70d@u.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) writes:

   In article <31mh31$efs@glitnir.ifi.uio.no> kjetilho@ifi.uio.no (Kjetil Torgrim Homme) writes:
   ] all, students will enter the job market before
   ] long, and when they get in the position to decide what to buy, they
   ] will want equipment they are familiar with. E.g., students graduating
   ] from Tromsoe will want HP boxes, someone from Oslo (like me :-) would
   ] _never_ buy a box running HP-UX, they'd prefer Irix or SunOS 4.

   By this argument, many of my contemporaries would be demanding PDP-08's
   running various things, Harris H-800's running VOS, and KL-10's running
   TOPS-10.

   I personally would be demanding a SWTP 6800 S100 system and a hand-cranked,
   home-built paper tape reader.

   People seldom stick to their first machines; this is simply a lie that
   Universities tell computer companies to get equipment.  8-).

I'm so glad you wrote that -- when I say such things, people just
accuse me of being cynical, paranoid, or something else negative.
-- 
 

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From: tomilepp@rieska.oulu.fi (Tomi Leppikangas)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: WINE + 1.1.[22-38] = segmentation fault
Date: 3 Aug 1994 19:12:13 GMT

Colin A. Frank (cfrank@zia) wrote:

: Did I miss something or the last month of linux kerneld have been breaking
: WINE?  I tried the latest wine releases up to wine940722 to no avail.

: I heard something about linus changing some signal stuff.  Could someone
: shed some light on this.

I got 1.1.36 and wine940722, works great.

Have you re-compiled wine for new kernels ?


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