Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #399
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:13:16 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #399, Volume #2                 Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  Re: AMD 486 66mhz CPU w/ Linux? (Dan Pop)
  Re: [Q] Anyone using #9 GXE64 Card ( 864 based ) (Paul Quinn)
  Re: Is the adaptec AHA-2842VL SCSI controller supported. (Harald Milz)
  132x44 text mode on console - improvements.. (Marius Kjeldahl)
  Re: Linux better than OS/2 for net surfing (Alan Cox)
  Re: Extraneous crap in Linux distributions (Dan Pop)
  Programming timer interrupts on Linux.. (Marius Kjeldahl)
  HELP: Has anybody driver for UnTerminal under Linux
  Re: slackware=slackware/slakware? (Leonhard Voos)
  How do gcc(linux) compiled executables compare those made from QuickC? (Sharad Thacore)
  Re: DECpc with S3/928 and XFree-2.1.1 ? (Christian Moen)
  Re: NCR53c810 (Was: Need help building ultimate Linux system) (Steve DuChene)
  Re: slackware=slackware/slakware? (R.W.F. van der &)
  Additional ques about IRQ's on Sony CDU-33A I/O card (Steve DuChene)
  Re: Heated debate(?) on OS/2 and Linux programming. (Louis-D. Dubeau)
  Re: Emacs SGML mode wanted (Larry W. Virden)
  Re: slackware=slackware/slakware? (Kristian Mowinckel)

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From: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch (Dan Pop)
Subject: Re: AMD 486 66mhz CPU w/ Linux?
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:41:24 GMT

In <2vi191$4js@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:

>>Of course, one has to wonder if AMD chips don't run Ghostscript properly,
>>what else don't they run properly?  I guess maybe I'll stick to Intel.  
>>
>>Bummer.  I hear AMD chips are cheaper AND faster than their Intel
>>counterparts.  

Well, if you want to sell broken chips, you have to make them faster and
cheaper than the good ones :-)
>
>I bought an AMD 66 chip in March.  I've had no problems with it, including
>in applications such as Ghostview which use Ghostscript.

So, it seems that buying AMD is a kind of lottery. 
Do they replace (free of charge) the bad ones with good ones?

Dan
--
Dan Pop 
CERN, CN Division
Email: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch
Mail:  CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: p_quinn@ECE.Concordia.CA (Paul Quinn)
Subject: Re: [Q] Anyone using #9 GXE64 Card ( 864 based )
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 18:20:06 GMT

In article <1994Jul6.162703.25877@sol.UVic.CA> jcorless@sol.UVic.CA (Jason Corless) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm going to be buying a #9 GXE64 VL video card, and I'm wondering
>if it works with the XFree S3 server?
>
>Or if anyone has a patched server that they could send me?   
>
>Thanks,
>Jason
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jason Corless
>University of Victoria, Victoria, BC
>
>jcorless@sol.uvic.ca
>PGP Key at : jcorless@sanjuan.uvic.ca


The X server necesary has been uploaded to ftp.cdrom.com.  In the directory
/incoming/FreeBSD  file name XF86_S3_864.Linux.tar.gz


--
________
Paul Quinn
p_quinn@ece.concordia.ca
Computer Science: Systems Architecture
Concordia University
Montreal, QC, CANADA
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Is the adaptec AHA-2842VL SCSI controller supported.
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:13:43 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Timothy D. Webster (tdwebste@sparta.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: > The title says it all.

: > Is the adaptec AHA-2842VL SCSI controller supported?

-> SCSI-HOWTO
-> Projects-FAQ

-- 
Harald Milz                             office: hm@ix.de
iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      home:   hm@seneca.ix.de
Opinions are mine, not my employer's -- the answer is Forty-two


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From: s_marius@ira.uka.de (Marius Kjeldahl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: 132x44 text mode on console - improvements..
Date: 08 Jul 1994 11:05:41 GMT

I am currently using this resoultion for my linux console. I have
learned that it might even look better. Looking at the characters, the
vertical lines are very visible, and it seems this text mode only uses
350 scanlines. By using 400 scanlines instead, the text should look
much better, and I have confirmed this by testing the fix132x43
program that comes with svgalib. This program, however, change the
console, so the last line (nr. 44) is no longer visible. I have played
around with the source to try to change this behavious, but have not
managed it so far (well, I do not know the vga registers that well..).
Does anybody have any suggestions on how this could be improved,
either in the kernel, or by changing the fix132x43 program to a
fix132x44 program? Thanks in advance..

Oh, btw. I am using a ATI GUP VLB..

--
Marius Kjeldahl, student at The Norwegian Insitute of Technology and
The University of Karlsruhe - finishing MSc late autumn 1994 
        e-mail: s_marius@ira.uka.de or mariusk@lise.unit.no
        www   : http://rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ulh0

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: iialan@iifeak (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Linux better than OS/2 for net surfing
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 17:40:42 GMT

In article <9407070150.13@rmkhome.com> rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly) writes:
>Alan Cox (iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr) wrote:
>: Funny I know three commercial vendors who only use SCO for the test phase now
>So Linux libc.a is compatible with SCO libc.a?
>And the shared library stuff is also compatible?

I just cross compile. Ditto when I want MIPS binaries for an embedded
target. I can build almost anything I need this way. Gun binutils, gcc
and gnu libc.

>SCO sells to thousands of shops running 6 to 8 terminals off a PC.

I'm happily certain there are at least 100,000 linux systems, just from
private information on stuff like book sales I have. This is information
from people who have no reason to lie. Its still however both small fry
compared to say microsoft windows, and a different market to SCO. SCO people
have money (they have to have money just to buy it!) and are much more
likely to go and spend $3000 on x and $2000 on y than a Linux user.
>
>: Yep because you have to have money to burn to buy it. To be honest SCO and
>: Linux are as far apart as DOS and NT Advanced server. I doubt Linux will ever
>: compete with SCO nor SCO with Linux for that simple reason.
>
>Exactly
-- 
Alan Cox: gw4pts@gw4pts.ampr.org      \\  //          GW4PTS@GB7SWN
=======================================\\//===================================
<<<<<<     Toolkits are for WIMPS :::: //\\Lib :::: the only way to fly >>>>>>
======================================//==\\==================================

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From: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch (Dan Pop)
Subject: Re: Extraneous crap in Linux distributions
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:51:55 GMT

In <richard-070794101216@dynamic-mac1.cam.harlequin.co.uk> richard@harlequin.co.uk (Richard Brooksby) writes:

>I have sampled several Linux distributions in the hope of finding something
>stable and sensible that I can use without fuss.  Why is it that the
>distributions feel the need to include piles of junk in /etc/profile and
>/etc/skel?  Are these file the distribution maintainer's personal
>preferences?  If so, why is he imposing them on everyone else?

He is not "imposing", he is proposing. If you don't like them, it's
much faster and easier to delete them than to complain about them.
Most (all?) Unix vendors do the same thing and most customers are happy.
>
>Every time I try a distribution I have to spend days hacking out all the
>rubbish here and elsewhere.
>
>Why can't we just have a clean functional minimum?

Real hackers don't try distributions. They install Linux from scratch,
according to their own preferences.

At least 99.9% of those installing from distributions need that "crap"
very badly and are very happy to get it. If you propose dropping it
from the distributions, you're not going to make too many friends in
the Linux world :-)

Dan
--
Dan Pop 
CERN, CN Division
Email: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch
Mail:  CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland

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From: s_marius@ira.uka.de (Marius Kjeldahl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Programming timer interrupts on Linux..
Date: 08 Jul 1994 11:08:48 GMT

I would like to syncronize a timer interrupt with the vertical retrace
of the vga. I could probably do this in (ghasp) MS-DOG, but I am not
sure what OS primitives are available for Linux for such purposes.
Anybody?

Thanks in advance..
--
Marius Kjeldahl, student at The Norwegian Insitute of Technology and
The University of Karlsruhe - finishing MSc late autumn 1994 
        e-mail: s_marius@ira.uka.de or mariusk@lise.unit.no
        www   : http://rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ulh0

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From:  kaf@worker.nevod.perm.su ()
Subject: HELP: Has anybody driver for UnTerminal under Linux
Reply-To: kaf@worker.nevod.perm.su
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 21:36:58 GMT

Can anybody says about UnTerminal card (Advanced Micro Research Inc).
What advantage and disadvantage it has
(compare with X-Terminal, Diskless Station and so on).

There exist driver under Linux and so on.


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  \`o.O'        Yours truly, A. Kostarev
  =(_^_)=       Nevod Ltd (342-2)343-626
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From: leo@wembley.uni-paderborn.de (Leonhard Voos)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: slackware=slackware/slakware?
Date: 8 Jul 1994 10:49:29 +0200

nfykw@alf.uib.no (Kristian Mowinckel) writes:

>My problem is the following:
>Today when I was about to download slackware-2.0, 
>I discovered that on all the sites 
>I tried(sunsite, tsx-11.mit.edu, sunsite, etc),
>the directory slackware didn't contain the a,ap,n,.. disks.
>But a subdirectory called slakware(notice the lacking "c") a full 
>slackware distribution resides.

>I seems like the slackware-2.0 distribution.
>Some of the files down there was updated 2-4juli.

>Is this the correct distribution?

Yes!

Leo



>Or is it an old one?

>Have I missed something?


>Regards,


>Kristian August Mowinckel

>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Name:             Kristian August Mowinckel
>City:             Bergen
>Country:          Norway
>E-mail:   nfykw@alf.uib.no
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
-- 
LEONHARD VOOS                   phone:  05254 / 69395
Schlehdornweg 1
D-33106 Paderborn               email:  leo@uni-paderborn.de

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From: sharad@resmel.bhp.com.au (Sharad Thacore)
Subject: How do gcc(linux) compiled executables compare those made from QuickC?
Date: 8 Jul 1994 00:29:44 GMT


HI,
        I don't have linux (or even a PC) but am thinking of getting setup.
        What I need to know, however, is how good are the executable generated
        by say gcc under linux compared to those generated using say a DOS 
        based compiler, such as Boreland's C++ (TurboC).
        
        ie: can I utilise most of the 486's power when executing a 
                compiled program under linux.  As it is I expect my program will
                take 1day to run on a 486/DOS/compiled_with_TurboC.  Will it
                take 2days to run under linux? or maybe 1day too?


I would appreciate any feedback whatsoever.

Please e-mail me (as well as posting to the newsgroup if you like) as I
have limited usenet access.


Thanks,
Sharad.


________________________________________________________________________________

Sharad Thacore                            e-mail : sharad@resmel.bhp.com.au
BHP Research                                   
Melbourne Laboratories
245 Wellington Road, Mulgrave             Phone  : +61-3-5667265
Victoria 3170                                    : +61-3-5607066
AUSTRALIA                                 Fax    : +61-3-5616709



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From: christim@gymir.ifi.uio.no (Christian Moen)
Subject: Re: DECpc with S3/928 and XFree-2.1.1 ?
Date: 08 Jul 1994 11:28:24 GMT

On 8 Jul 1994 07:21:35 GMT, hubovsky@saruman.ci.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Hubovsky) said:

> Hello everyone!
> I have a DECpc with an S3 videocard. It has a bt485 RAMDAC.
> I tried to get a resolution of 1280x1024 with a refresh rate of 72Hz
> with the options 'bt485', 'bt485_curs', 'number_nine', but I was
> not successful jet. At the moment, the only way is to set up
> 1280x1024 interlaced. I think it must be possible non
> interlaced, too.

> Do I need a special Xserver for this card?
> Do I have to use any options besides the one I mentionied above?

Please note that the S3 928 <=> Bt485 interface is different on
various cards and that the drivers have to be programmed accordingly.
I don't know how this is handled on your card, but you could try the
"spea_mercury" option instead of "number_nine". The former option is
supposed to work on STB Pegasus cards as well.

  I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COULD DAMAGE YOUR HARDWARE IN ANY WAY.
  TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!

--
/ Christian Moen - christim@ifi.uio.no - http://www.ifi.uio.no/~christim/  \
\ Fjellbirkeland 21A 114, N-0864 Oslo, Norway - Tel: +47 22 187103 - *<8O) /




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From: s0017210@cc.ysu.edu (Steve DuChene)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: NCR53c810 (Was: Need help building ultimate Linux system)
Date: 8 Jul 1994 11:08:12 GMT

Andrew Anderson (andersoa@news.db.erau.edu) wrote:
: Drew Eckhardt (drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu) wrote:
: : It works fine on most systems, although I've seen some compatability 
: : problems on certain systems due to outdated and buggy PCI BIOSes,
: : as well as some strange hardware interactions with certain PCI 
: : video hardware.

: Can you say which systems/bios work with your driver?  I'm about to
: put in a PO for a Linux server, and I'd like to get as much performance
: out of it as I can.  I'd rather use a PCI SCSI card than an Adaptec
: 154x.

: : Actually, I've seen one place that had them for $70 in Q1, $62 in 
: : Q20.

: Where?  I'd like to pick one up for home if they're that cheap!


Yes, Drew where are these available at those prices? From your
description they sound like pretty good interface cards.
-- 
| Steven A. DuChene   sduchene@cis.ysu.edu  or  s0017210@cc.ysu.edu      
| Youngstown State University  | Computer Science / Math / Mech. Eng.
|They all laughed at Albert Einstein. They all laughed at Columbus. 
|Unfortunately, they also all laughed at Bozo the Clown. 

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: slackware=slackware/slakware?
From: plank@phys.uva.nl (R.W.F. van der &)
Date: 08 Jul 1994 09:53:25 GMT

In article <2viak1$m4q@due.uninett.no> nfykw@alf.uib.no (Kristian Mowinckel) writes:
   My problem is the following:
   Today when I was about to download slackware-2.0, 
   I discovered that on all the sites 
   I tried(sunsite, tsx-11.mit.edu, sunsite, etc),
   the directory slackware didn't contain the a,ap,n,.. disks.
   But a subdirectory called slakware(notice the lacking "c") a full 
   slackware distribution resides.

   I seems like the slackware-2.0 distribution.
   Some of the files down there was updated 2-4juli.

   Is this the correct distribution?
   Or is it an old one?

   Have I missed something?


   Regards,


   Kristian August Mowinckel

   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
   Name:             Kristian August Mowinckel
   City:             Bergen
   Country:          Norway
   E-mail:   nfykw@alf.uib.no
   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Yes, 'slakware' is the newer one. It seems that they changed the name
of the directory so that certain problems for MS-DOS systems (Note:
slakware contains 8 characters...) may be avoided.

Roel van der Plank. plank@phys.uva.nl

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From: s0017210@cc.ysu.edu (Steve DuChene)
Subject: Additional ques about IRQ's on Sony CDU-33A I/O card
Date: 8 Jul 1994 11:14:27 GMT

        Attention Corey Minyard:

        Corey: I tried mailing you a reply but both of the E-addresses
        bounced the mail back to me as host unknown. so I will ask my
        questions here and hope you see this!
        I have a couple of questions/problems with your reply to my
        questions about the Sony CD-ROM interface card. In the documentation
        that Gateway provided me with my system it says and I quote,
        "Do not set any jumpers on JP4". So I pulled my card a couple
        of nights ago prior to my posting and sure enough there are no 
        jumpers set at all on JP4. What does this indicate? I have no
        IRQ set for the drive/card or does having no jumpers set the 
        IRQ to some default not covered on your tables? Your documentation
        looks like it is much more complete than mine! BTW, when you said 
        some kernel drivers were to be included in the next kernel, what
        were you talking about? There already is a driver in the kernel for
        the CDU-31A that also works for the CDU-33A (but doesn't take advantage
        of the double speed as far as I know) and there is an externally
        loadable module that does take advantage of the double speed but
        does not have any sound support. I have tried to get this second 
        driver to work but I have had no luck yet after trying to add the 
        patches to the 1.1.24 kernel version. I gives a module load failed
        message when ever I try to use insmod to load it (yes I have the 
        latest version of the modules package). If you have any experience 
        with this driver written by Petteri.Stenius@cs.hut.fi (Petteri Stenius) 
        for the Sony CDU-33A, I could use some advice on this also. Anyway
        Thanks for the information you have already provided. 
  
-- 
| Steven A. DuChene   sduchene@cis.ysu.edu  or  s0017210@cc.ysu.edu      
| Youngstown State University  | Computer Science / Math / Mech. Eng.
|They all laughed at Albert Einstein. They all laughed at Columbus. 
|Unfortunately, they also all laughed at Bozo the Clown. 

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: hallu@jacquard.info.polymtl.ca (Louis-D. Dubeau)
Subject: Re: Heated debate(?) on OS/2 and Linux programming.
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 00:53:02 GMT

>>>>> "PF" == Paul Floyd <mbhpfpj@meehpe.ee.man.ac.uk> writes:

    PF> In article <1994Jul5.182836.21599@Princeton.EDU>,
    PF> wgsohne@spot.Princeton.EDU (Guido Sohne) writes:

    >> You can, if you like Emacs that much, set it to be your login
    >> shell and would probably never have to leave it to do
    >> anything. Compiling, debugging, playing Tower of Hanoi or
    >> Blackjack, FTPing stuff, Gopher, Archie, Reading Usenet and
    >> many more things can be done in Emacs.

    PF> Even more proof that you are a complete twat. I use this thing
    PF> called an operating system for those sort of functions. And
    PF> for the others, I use programs. If I wanted something to
    PF> calculate biorythms and act as a fileserver, I'd get things
    PF> designed to do them.
 
That's why many peoples call emacs an OS!!! Seriously, calling him a
`twat' will get you nowhere. I'm also an emacs addict and I can tell you
that although it may seems weird using emacs for gopher, archie,
usenet and e-mail is often better than using `stand alone'
programs. For one thing, cutting and pasting between e-mail, articles
and other files is a trivial operation in emacs. Every other text
based mail readers I have used don't support cut and paste as a
trivial operation. In most cases, you have to call an external editor
to do the trick. And that's only one advantage of using emacs.

    PF> Have you ever used e [the epm macro language]? Did you answer
    PF> my point that EPM looks better and is easier to use than
    PF> emacs? But EPM's not a linux program so it must be crap, but
    PF> if it was, it'd be cool. emacs reminds me of WordPerfect for
    PF> DOS, the first time I used it, I had to randomly press keys to
    PF> get anything to happen (like VI as well).

I don't know about him but *I* tried... and abandoned. I couldn't find
any decent documentation on the language. OTOH, if you look at elisp,
it comes with *complete* documentation. It took me one week approx to
be able to start seriously programming in elisp. BTW, I tried to
program in `e' and get the most out of EPM before I tried to learn
elisp and get the most out of emacs. The interesting thing is that I
own legal copies of OS/2 2.0 and 2.1 and finally decided to erase it
from my HD. I still think it is much better than Windogs or MS-DOG.

    PF> Maybe you should talk to Larry Margolis (key figure in the IBM
    PF> EPM team), or Mr. Macro as I once heard him referred to
    PF> as. EPM does everything I want to, and everything I'm likely
    PF> to want. And I've grown to like the look and the key
    PF> commands. I don't suppose you can understand that though, that
    PF> most people just grow to like an editor and usually stick to
    PF> it.

You've got a point here... you can't just force yourself to use
something you don't like. 

    PF> Oh yeah, and wasn't emacs one of the weak links that was
    PF> exploited bu the internet worm? Another claim to fame?

Hmm. From what I know, emacs can't *create* holes in system
security. The internet worm worked because there were holes in the
OS. In any cases, if for some reason emacs created a security hole in
the OS because of a sequence of code (which I seriously doubt) the
fault is in the OS, not in emacs. I also don't see where emacs could
fit in the worm scheme of operations. If it was runned suid, there
could be security problems but that's not the case.

|              Louis-Dominique Dubeau <hallu@info.polymtl.ca>
|Computer Engineering, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal (Montreal, Quebec)
|Linux single server project (http://boole.info.polymtl.ca:1500/~hallu/)
|                     -> This sentence is false!!! <-

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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Emacs SGML mode wanted
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 11:24:07 GMT

/home/lwv26/Misc/tcl-faq.part04:
What: CoST
Where: ftp://euromath.dk/pub/cost/
Description: The Copenhagen SGML Tool is based on the sgmls parser and
        [incr tcl] and allows you to process SGML flexibly.
        Appears to be based on itcl 1.3 and Tcl 7.0.
Contact: "Klaus Harbo" <Klaus.Harbo@euromath.dk>

-- 
:s Great net resources sought...
:s Larry W. Virden                 INET: lvirden@cas.org
:s Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614
The task of an educator should be to irrigate the desert not clear the forest.

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From: nfykw@alf.uib.no (Kristian Mowinckel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: slackware=slackware/slakware?
Date: 8 Jul 1994 11:54:29 GMT


Thanks everybody!
Your answers cleared my doubts.
Now I can begin to download slackware-2.0.

I really look forward to try it!


Regards,

Kristian


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Name:             Kristian August Mowinckel
City:             Bergen
Country:          Norway
Phone:      + 47  55 56 01 42     
E-mail:   nfykw@alf.uib.no
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