Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #321
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Date:     Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:13:46 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #321, Volume #2                Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:13:46 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Looking for GNU-SQL (GSQL) for Onyx (David C. Brown)
  Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy (Heiko Schlittermann)
  Re: S3 Support - A bit lacking? (Christoph Niemann)
  Re: Word Perfect (Mark A. Davis)
  >16MB ram support (Don Dupuis)
  Re: Why cannot xterm use -bg option in .xinitrc ? (Vivek Khera)
  Re: Why cannot xterm use -bg option in .xinitrc ? (Anthony J. Stuckey)
  [request] emacs-19.25 for Linux (Jens Petersen)
  Re: Do drivers exist for these PCI cards? (Drew Eckhardt)
  Re: Yggdrasil and PAS16 SCSI/CDROM: Any successes? (olav woelfelschneider)
  Re: VP/ix for Linux? (David Wright)
  Help with Partitioning Needed (Michael Carmody)
  Re: Linux on Compaq Contura Aero (David Shen)
  Re: Watching a user on an tty? (Christian Henry)
  Re: Suggestions for Machine (Charles B. Martin)
  vi with text formatting (color,font,etc)?? (David M. Ramsey)
  Re: fvwm question (Jason Van Patten)

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From: dbrow42@rfc.comm.harris.com (David C. Brown)
Subject: Re: Looking for GNU-SQL (GSQL) for Onyx
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 12:48:36 GMT

I get the message .. QUEL > SQL.  Nevertheless, let me repeat ...

Can anyone point me to the GSQL that seems to be required by Onyx?
I'd like to try to get SQL and 4GL working with Ingres89 
(call me a fool, but please answer if you know!)

Dave Brown (dcb@rfc.comm.harris.com)
 

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From: heiko@lotte.sax.de (Heiko Schlittermann)
Subject: Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 10:42:14 GMT

In article <2uanat$5q9@cancer.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au>,
Chris Bitmead <chrisb@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> wrote:
>pfennem@hzsbe04.ns-nl.att.com (P Fennema HV018 x4174) writes:
>
>>Hello,
>
>>I know this sounds silly, but what is an efficient method to split
>>a large (gzipped) tar file into pieces which fit on a 1.44 MB floppy?
>>I know the concatenating is easy with 'cat', but splitting is a little
>>harder. I can do it with split, but this works with line numbers and 
>>I'd like to split exactly at the 1.44Mbyte limit of the floppy.
>
>I use this disksplit shell script which generates split files called x.0,
>x.1, x.2 etc. You can then join them back together using cat x.0 x.1 x.2 >x
>
>
>PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH
>BS=1440000
>
>for i
>do
>       SIZE=`ls -l $i | awk '{ print $4}'`
>       COUNT=0
>       while [ $SIZE -gt 0 ]
>       do
>               dd bs=$BS count=1 skip=$COUNT if=$i of=$i.$COUNT
>               COUNT=`expr $COUNT + 1`
>               SIZE=`expr $SIZE - $BS`
>       done
>done

or 

        `split -b 1400k file file.'

would make file.aa, file.ab, file.ac ...

-- heiko



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From: niemann@myhost.subdomain.domain (Christoph Niemann)
Subject: Re: S3 Support - A bit lacking?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 13:08:19 GMT

Hi!

I have patched /linux/boot/setup.S to support the 132x25 and 132x50 modes
with any S3-based VGA-card.

Could some S3-users please get it from ftp.swt.ruhr-uni-bochum.de in
/pub/linux/s3/setup.S to check if it works for everybody (I used the algorithm
from SuperProbe of XFree-86 2.1.1)

Please report success/failure to me.

And: Could please some non-S3-user try this code, too?



===============================================================================
Christoph Niemann                               niemann@swt.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
Lehrstuhl fuer Software-Technik                 Christoph.Niemann@linux.org
Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Geb. IC3/36           Tel.: 0234/700-7982
D-44780 Bochum                                  Fax.: 0234/700-6914

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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Word Perfect
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 12:34:50 GMT

cummings@stingray.net (cummings) writes:

>I am curious, in order to run this program Word Perfect under the emulation,
>are any libs from the sun needed?

Sun?  No, you would be using the SCO version.  SCO is IBCS/COFF compliant.
Since WordPerfect linked their binaries static, Motif, X, and other
libraries are compiled into it.  This is good news for compatibility across
platforms, but bad news for memory usage.  I am hoping that with the 6.0
release, they will have the option of a few dynamic (shared lib) binaries
(of course, this will not work in Linux, since Linux does not have the
same shared libraries as SCO).
-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | mark@taylor.infi.net           |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: dond@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com (Don Dupuis)
Subject: >16MB ram support
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 20:20:47 GMT

What changes are necessary for linux to recognize >16MB
or memory? I have the kernel set to not limit memory to
low 16MB. Any help would be appreciated. I am booting
kernel version 1.0.8 Slackware.

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From: khera@norval.clark.net (Vivek Khera)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Why cannot xterm use -bg option in .xinitrc ?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 15:20:33 GMT

>>>>> "AJS" == Anthony J Stuckey <stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:

AJS>    You can configure anything in X, but it takes 7-600 page books, 4
AJS> years+ of a University Education, and 18K man-hours in a dark room to
AJS> figure out where.

The X11R5 and R6 Xt library supports the editres protocol, so you can
use the editres program to find and set various resources in your
program.  The man page for programs should also list the resources
they honor, of course some do not do this, which is very unfortunate.

But in general, if one goes to such hacker as the original poster did
to get different colors in xterm, one should suspect that there is a
more elegent way to do it.
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Vivek Khera                               Khera Communications, Inc.
Internet: khera@norval.clark.net          Rockville, MD
RIPEM/MIME spoken here

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From: stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Anthony J. Stuckey)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Why cannot xterm use -bg option in .xinitrc ?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 13:37:14 GMT

khera@norval.clark.net (Vivek Khera) writes:
>Then whenever I run xterm, I get an 80x30 window with 500 lines of
>history and a scroll-bar.  And if I'm on a color display, I get khaki
>text on a black background (since reverse video is set).  One could
>just as easily set both the Background and Foreground resources for
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the vt100 widget.

        I think here we have a statement of the problem.

        I have certainly never seen any user's guide which will, even vaguely,
tell you what resources each program listens to, what possible values there
are, and/or what to do about setting/changing them.

        You can configure anything in X, but it takes 7-600 page books, 4
years+ of a University Education, and 18K man-hours in a dark room to
figure out where.

        Why is there no advertised, obvious way to do this?
--
Anthony J. Stuckey              stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
"And if you frisbee-throw a universe where does it go?" -- Steve Blunt.
GCS/S -d+@ p c(++) l u+ e+(-) m+(*) s+++/-- !n h(*) f+ g+ w+ t+@ r y?
KiboNumber == 1

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From: Jens Petersen <J.Petersen@QMW.ac.uk>
Crossposted-To: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: [request] emacs-19.25 for Linux
Date: 27 Jun 1994 15:39:19 GMT

I was wondering when some kind person will put a binary of Emacs
19.25 for Linux on `suncite.unc.edu' (or somewhere similar). That
would be real cool, since I don't have enough disk space to build
it myself.

If they could possibly make the .tar.gz, files small enough to
fit on 1.44 Mb disks that would be even nicer since I don't have
an Internet connection to my Linux box .

Thanks a lot, -Jens

ps Last time, after I asked for 19.24 Linux binaries and they
appeared, then 19.25 appeared. It seems that 19.26 won't be out
for a while, but you never know...... I wish sometimes that the
FSF would give us more of an idea of when we can expect the next
releases (major and minor steps) of Emacs.
--
Jens-UH Petersen
Physics QMW,
Univ. of London

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From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Do drivers exist for these PCI cards?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 13:37:01 GMT

In article <Cs23wL.16y@world.std.com>, Richard Hipp <drh@world.std.com> wrote:
>Two quick hardware compatibility questions:
>
>  *  Will the Adaptec 1542 SCSI drivers work with the new 32-bit
>     Adaptec PCI SCSI-2 controllers?  

No.  The 2940 is a totally different animal from the 154x/174x series of 
boards.  There is a driver for the chip used, but given that

1.  Currently, it only works for the 274x EISA boards

2.  It is _very_ minimal, and doesn't even support scatter/gather
    (most host adapters wouldn't transfer over 50-120K/second
    before scatter/gather support was implemented, I suspect 
    that with clustered reads/writes this may be 4X that number,
    but 200-500K is nothing to write home about).

I wouldn't recommend getting one of the Adaptec PCI boards.

The Buslogic 946 PCI works with both the Adaptec 1540 and 
Buslogic drivers for some people, with the Buslogic driver only
for others, and with neither driver for others.  Both drivers 
are quite stable, and it would be worth pursuing if you could 
get a guarantee that you could return the board if it didn't
work on your system.

The NCR53c810 based PCI boards work fine with the ALPHA Linux 
driver, although features are currently a little lacking - one SCSI 
command at a time, no synchronous negotiation, although scatter/gather is 
supported.        Other than that, the driver appears solid.  The usual 
DOS ASPI/CAM, 32 bit windows, OS/2, WinNT, and SCO unix
drivers are available.  A FREE BSD driver is in alpha test,
and NeXTstep driver is purportedly available.  The NCR53c810
based controllers surpassed both the Adaptec 2940 and 
Buslogic BT-946 boards in C't magazine's DOS performance
tests.  The NCR53c810 boards are also the cheapest of all 
three, with one vendor (Technoland) having them for $70 
in quantity 1.

>If not, are there other
>     drivers which will work?

Maybe with modifications, and for a _very_ limited definition 
of the word work.

Consider a different PCI SCSI board, or ISA/EISA/VESA for 
SCSI.

>  *  Will XF86_S3 work with the #9GXE64 cards for the PCI bus?

Maybe.  Amancio got XF86_S3 working with a VLB 864 board with
a minor change to the detection code, your mileage may vary.

>     If not, are there other XFree servers that will work with
>     the #9GXE64?

The mono and 16 color servers should work for some definition of 
the word works (ie, 640x480 resolution, limited refresh rate, 
lower speed, etc).

-- 
Drew Eckhardt drew@Colorado.EDU
1970 Landcruiser FJ40 w/350 Chevy power
1982 Yamaha XV920J Virago

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From: wosch@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (olav woelfelschneider)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil and PAS16 SCSI/CDROM: Any successes?
Date: 24 Jun 1994 20:33:40 GMT

Jason Van Patten (vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu) wrote:
: port.  Recent PAS's (and perhaps older ones) don't use interrupts for their
: SCSI port.  Anyway, upon bootup (cold) it would fail.. It'd find the port, and

I must disagree!!!

I recently got a PAS16 together with a scsi cdrom from mediavision as a bundle.
(DoubleFusionLX).
At first I had to boot linux without interrupts to get it to work, but then
i started experimenting.
I think the problem is in the autodetection routine of the driver.
If you set an interrupt for the scsi part by hand, simply by putting the
right #define PAS16_OVERRIDE into pas16.c then the driver won't probe but will
work with the coded interrupt.

See, the PAS16 works for me, WITH interrupts!


Type ya,
--
/======================================\
| Olav "Mac" Woelfelschneider          |
| wosch@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de |
+--------------------------------------+
| I refuse to grow up,                 |
| I don't want to lose my humor...     |
\======================================/

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: dmw@prism1.prism1.com (David Wright)
Subject: Re: VP/ix for Linux?
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 14:14:34 GMT

>>>>> "JBM" == James B MacLean <jmaclean@fox.nstn.ns.ca> writes:

  JBM> Since I have never used anything other than DOSEMU :-(, what are these 
  JBM> features that DOSEMU should put on it's wanted list?

        Other than the DPMI I wouldn't say it is any one feature, but rather
the level of "polish" on the package. There ARE things that I don't think
that DOSEMU can do that VP/IX does, however:

        1) Ability to grab & release floppy disks "on the fly".
        2) Ability to grab & release serial ports "on the fly".
        3) No problems with multiple people on the same machine running the
           emulator at the same time. (Is this a problem with DOSEMU? I never
           used it except on my own machine)
        4) Pop-up window for managing all of the above.
        5) Ability to use DOS device drivers for custom hardware directly.

        I haven't looked at it recently (does the current version of DOSEMU
run with the 1.0 kernel? I don't want to touch the 1.1.x versions), but does
DOSEMU provide a way for the DOS session to release the printer output it has
queued up without exiting the emulator?

                                                        Dave

--
  ____________________________________________________________________________
 |        /\ /          | Prism Computer Applications        |  David Wright  |
 |      -/--\--         | 14650 Detroit Ave, Suite LL40      | dmw@Prism1.COM |
 |      /____\          | Lakewood, OH 44107  USA            |  216-228-1400  |

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From: mcarmody@netcom.com (Michael Carmody)
Subject: Help with Partitioning Needed
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 00:47:25 GMT

Subject: Partitioning Problem
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Summary: 
Keywords: 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1]

I just bought the Yggdrasil Linux 1.1 CD-ROM and can't seem to get it to
boot from the hard drive.  I think I may be doing the partitioning step 
wrong during the installation process. I have a Maxtor 7345S SCSI drive 
and a Future Domain 850 controller with BIOS. I am loading from a Toshiba 
double-spin CD-ROM. During the installation process I am prompted to set 
Heads (4), Cylinders (2217) and sectors (74, actually the install program 
says 1-63 so I enter 63). The next step after partitioning is mkfs. 
During this step it checks to see what partitions Linux is aware of and 
It says I have to set heads, sectors and cylinders again.  I remembered 
to make the partition (/dev/sda1) bootable and active, and I wrote the 
new configuration to disk, but still it doesn't work. After the whole 
program a mount command doesn't show /dev/sda1 mounted. I hope this isn't 
a really bonehead question to post here. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Mike Carmody
mcarmody@netcom.com
  (post to comp.os.linux.misc)

-- 
                                             mcarmody@netcom.com

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From: david@ms.oks.fujitsu.co.jp (David Shen)
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq Contura Aero
Date: 27 Jun 1994 00:16:03 GMT

albayrak@cc.helsinki.fi wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.misc david@ms.oks.fujitsu.co.jp (David Shen) wrote:

: >Is there anyone running Linux on Contura Aero?

:       I am and also many others. Here is very first Alfa version
:       of Aero-FAQ but it might contain some bugs and type errors.
:       Hope it can give any help.

:       -Ali-

   Thanks.  It'll help.

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From: henryc@reality.UUCP (Christian Henry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Watching a user on an tty?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 10:03:56 -0400
Reply-To: henryc@io.org

In article <2ull0m$l69@nwfocus.wa.com>,
Joe Pannon <danubius@coho.halcyon.com> wrote:

>>The original poster has a valid point there - this really helps for software
>>support, as well as seeing what an intruder is doing to hack around the
>>system or if he/she's planting any kind of bombs... 
>
>And finding out passwords, eh?  I don't mean just login, but PGP, for
>instance.  I sure wouldn't appreciate my SysAdmin doing that to me.

First of all, passwords through ``login'' and ``passwd'' aren't echoed by
the respective programs; when's the last time _you_ saw your password being
echoed when you logged on?  Also, there's _no_ reason why PGP can't be told
to not echo passwords (assuming that it currently does); in fact, it
_should_ be told to not show passwords.

So where's the problem?

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From: cbmartin@whale.st.usm.edu (Charles B. Martin)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Machine
Date: 24 Jun 1994 20:45:41 GMT

Mr Jamie Anstice (Esq) (anstice@csc.canterbury.ac.nz) wrote:
: I've finally scraped enough money together (well convinced the bank) to
: be able to replace my aging 386sx-16 with a 486.

: But which option?

: 1) 486DX2/50, ViewSonic 6E, Cirrus 5426(from memory) 1MB VESA SVGA, 
:      8 MB RAM, VESA IDE Controller, 540MB (Enhanced?)IDE drive.  
:      & Line Conditioner.

: 2) As above, but with 486DX40.

: 3) AMD 486DX2/66, 14" KTX nothing special monitor, 420MB normal IDE drive,
:      no line conditioner, otherwise same as above.


: Prices are pretty close ( 1 & 2 same, 3 within $30)
: Around NZ$3220, inc 12.5% sales tax.  (exchange rate is NZ$1 ~= US$0.55)

: Will I notice the difference a DX2/66 makes over the others, or shall I
: go for the bigger HD and better monitor  (and incidentally better keyboard).


: Oh, 256K cache, keyboard, mouse, no DOS, etc.

: Cheers
: Jamie

From what I've seen, you will notice QUITE a jump in performance with the
DX2/66 over the others.  If it is w/in $30 go for it.  Although, if you
could get more hard drive space for the DX2/66 even better.

Chuck


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From: dmr@dsinc.com (David M. Ramsey)
Subject: vi with text formatting (color,font,etc)??
Date: 27 Jun 1994 11:30:20 -0400

Does anyone know of a vi package that has been extended to support    
language specific (C, C++, etc.) text formatting?

What I am looking for is a vi that will display code with comments
in a certain color/font, reserved words in a certain color/font,
etc.  Borland's editor for their Microsoft Windows C++ development
environment is a good example of what I am looking for, except with 
vi command syntax.

I know that lucid emacs does this, but I want *vi*, and don't want
all of the other baggage of emacs.

Anyone know where I can find such a beast?

Thanks,

David
=====================================================
David M. Ramsey           Office Voice: (704)847-8904
Decision Support Inc.     Office Fax  : (704)847-4875
Internet: dmr@dsinc.com   Home Voice  : (704)521-8265
=====================================================

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From: vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jason Van Patten)
Subject: Re: fvwm question
Date: 24 Jun 1994 20:45:59 GMT

Hi again -

        Thanks for all the email from everyone who responded.  Thing is, the
recommendation for the IconBox was a flop.  No go.  I checked the man pages
on both X and fvwm and neither of them actually mentioned an IconBox.

        Any clues now?

                                                Jason

--
Jason Van Patten                  | If at first you don't succeed, keep |
Clarkson University               | on sucking till you do succeed.     |
vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu  |                     - Curly Howard  |
                                  |                 (The Three Stooges) |
            ** Any opinions expressed here are actually
               yours, you just don't know it yet. **
 

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