Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #315
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:13:07 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #315, Volume #2                Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  ftape and Conner Backup Basics (Louis-D. Dubeau)
  Re: Linux on the DEC Alpha (Dan Inman)
  Re: Linux on the DEC Alpha (Kjetil Torgrim Homme)
  Passing loadable modules to the kernel at bootup (Doug Smith)
  Re: unix version of dos prog XCOPY? (Walter F. Dexter)
  SCO Framemaker? (was Re: WP Said NO GO to Native Port.)
  Linux For Sale ? (Craig A. Miller)
  What video board to buy? (Bill Heiser)
  Re: unix version of dos prog XCOPY? (Bruce Evans)
  Re: Finite element packaga anyone? (Orhan Unal)
  LINUX ETH0 (anh@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu)
  HELP: HDD partitioning (Robert King)
  Re: Need recommendation for SVGA card (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Why cannot xterm use -bg option in .xinitrc ? (Stormy Henderson)
  BT445S explodes & takes out HD (Bob Kupiec)
  Ftape (mastert)
  Re: Can Linux mount NeXT filesystem (Phil Howard)
  Re: Will my Computer Blow Up? (Alan Cox)
  Re: NIS for Linux? (Sandland Oerjan)
  Re: Mosaic and WWW on LINUX (Tim Bass)
  programming parallell ports (XXXX)
  NIS for Linux? (D Elson)

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From: hallu@boole.info.polymtl.ca (Louis-D. Dubeau)
Subject: ftape and Conner Backup Basics
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 05:34:07 GMT


I have read ftape's doc and the HOWTO. Both says that there was a
formatting problem with CBB version 1.0 for MS-DOG but that the
Windogs version never had any problem and that the MS-DOG version 1.1
should work fine.

Well, I tried formating my tape with both CBB version 1.1 for DOS ans
CBB version 1.2 for Win and ftape wasn't able to use the tape.

I instead used cpbackup (the backup from PCTOOLS v7.something) and it
did work.

The only difference between the two formats (taken from
/var/adm/message) is:

CBB:      ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - max-floppy-side:      7.
cpbackup: ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - max-floppy-side:      6.

Has anybody got similar problems (and the docs should be fixed), or am
I alone (and have a "special" version of CBB)?

|              Louis-Dominique Dubeau <hallu@info.polymtl.ca>
|Computer Engineering, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal (Montreal, Quebec)
|Linux single server project (http://boole.info.polymtl.ca:1500/~hallu/)
|                     -> This sentence is false!!! <-

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From: Dan Inman <lasdti@aai.arco.com>
Subject: Re: Linux on the DEC Alpha
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 23:08:47 GMT

In article <2uelse$a89@sousa.amt.ako.dec.com> Andrew Riebs,
riebs@tanfl.amt.ako.dec.com writes:
> 
> In article <CrvF0t.12x@ns1.nodak.edu>, evers@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight M
Evers) writes:
> 
> > NOTICE, this is an ALPHA "PC", not a AXP!!! Hopefully device drivers
for 
> 
> "Alpha", "AXP", "Alpha AXP", "Alpha PC", etc., though all legally
> incorrect ("incorrect usage", according to the trademark lawyers :-),
all
> refer to systems built around Digital's Alpha AXP chip.  So called Alpha
> PC's are characterized by the use of common PC-style components for
their
> buses, disks, etc., but they are still built around the Alpha AXP cpu
chip.
> 
> A number of us are pushing to get to the day where we can the world's
only
> *open* operating system, Linux, on the world's fastest desktop systems
> (Alphas, of course) for our own use, and for anyone else who wants it.

I'd love to see that!  Then when the single-processor Alpha port is 
finished, maybe I can get the university to let me try porting it to 
the University of Alaska's T-3D, one of the world's fastest non-desktop 
systems, a Cray packed with 128 (possible soon 256) 3D-toroidally
connected 
Alphas (can you say 19 GFlops?). Now that would be a fun "weekend"
project. 

Oh well, at least I can dream...
___
Dan Inman, Programmer Extraordinaire 
(really, that's the title they gave me, honest... ;)
ARCO Alaska Inc.                                                
lasdti@aai.arco.com
dan@saturn.uaamath.alaska.edu
___
#include <std_disclaimer.h>

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From: kjetilho@ifi.uio.no (Kjetil Torgrim Homme)
Subject: Re: Linux on the DEC Alpha
Date: 24 Jun 1994 23:23:23 GMT

+--- Dwight M. Evers:
| DEC hardware is damn nice! But I think that I can speak for a few
| when I say that the sofware and OS they provide might not be up to
| their hardware standards.
| 

I beg your pardon? OSF/1 is a very nice OS, thank you. For instance,
AdvFS is probably the state of the art in Unix file systems.


Kjetil T.

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From: jdsmith@zaphod.npeg.provo.novell.com (Doug Smith)
Subject: Passing loadable modules to the kernel at bootup
Date: 23 Jun 1994 23:12:47 GMT

After looking at the latest modutils package, I was wondering if
anyone has come up with a way of passing the kernel the name of a 
driver to be loaded.  I was wanting to use this along with the
DOS Linux loader (loadlin?).  Here's an example:

        loadlin zimage mcd=340,10

The kernel could then load the Mitsumi CD driver with the correct
startup values.

Any help would be appreciated!

Doug Smith

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From: wfd@prairienet.org (Walter F. Dexter)
Subject: Re: unix version of dos prog XCOPY?
Date: 24 Jun 1994 01:20:39 GMT
Reply-To: wfd@prairienet.org (Walter F. Dexter)

In a previous article, hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu) says:

In article <VGIAMBAL.94Jun22074200@emmy.nmsu.edu>, vgiambal@nmsu.edu (Vince Giambalvo) writes:
> >   I presume that you are asking this because you want to copy a
> >   directory tree with all the subdirectories and have the program create
> >   the directories if they do not exist. I always do this with cpio:
>          cd sourcedir
>          find . -depth -print | cpio -pvdum targetdir
> >   Works good, hope this helps
> Yikes! Glad this works for you, but most of us would never have
> thought of anything like this. How about
>          cp -R sourcedir targetdir
> 

Well, the advantage (in SCO and Interactive, anyhow) is that the cpio
method doesn't stomp on the file dates, ownerships, etc. (It also, in my
experience, at least feels faster - but that may be because you can see that
it's doing something. There's also the advantage of being to stick some 
rcmd/rsh stuff in and do it across a network.)

And, anyhow, I don't think (IOW, I could be wrong) that -R is universally
supported by cp. I don't know about Linux; the biggest reason for my lurking
here is to see what people think about it before I decide to play with it
some myself.

Walt

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From: swampler@noao.edu ()
Subject: SCO Framemaker? (was Re: WP Said NO GO to Native Port.)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 22:32:17 GMT

Hmmm, this discussion of using the SCO version of WP raises a question:

  I much prefer FrameMaker (call me weird).  Since I'd be willing to bet
money no Linux-native version of FM is likely to show up, is there an
existing version for SCO?  Is that likely to work with the SCO-support
in Linux?  What about a SysVR4 version and the COFF support? Come to
think of it, just what is the status of the COFF support?

Thanks for any information!
-- 
Steve Wampler
swampler@gemini.edu
Gemini Project (under AURA)

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From: cmiller@golden.ncw.net (Craig A. Miller)
Subject: Linux For Sale ?
Date: 26 Jun 1994 11:51:34 GMT
Reply-To: cmiller@golden.ncw.net (Craig A. Miller)

I apologize if this is in an inappropriate newsgroup, but
since there is not a comp.os.linux.forsale group and I knew
that you would be the folks that would be interested... 
Here goes nothing.. 

I have Metro Link Ink's Motif for Linux w/ Developers kit
Release 1.0.1 for sale.
All reasonable offers will be entertained.

......................
Craig Miller                      
cmiller@golden.ncw.net


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From: bill@bhhome.ci.net (Bill Heiser)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: What video board to buy?
Date: 26 Jun 1994 12:56:32 GMT

I presently have an ATI Graphics Ultra in my 486 DX2-66.  The monitor
is an NEC Multisync 4DS.  I am planning to upgrade the monitor to one
capable of at least 1280x1024, and I want to upgrade the video board 
to go along with this new capability.  But what board should I buy?

Since the ATI GU works out well, I thought the GPT would be the next
logical step.  However I hear that it is not supported by LINUX/XFree86.

What board would be the fastest and supported by LINUX/XFree86 and Dos/Windoze?
Also I am interested in the highest possible refresh rate at 1280x1024 - I 
would think at least 70Hz (my eyes can't deal with flicker).

Thanks in advance,
Bill
-- 
Bill Heiser:    bill@bhhome.ci.net

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From: bde@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans)
Subject: Re: unix version of dos prog XCOPY?
Date: 24 Jun 1994 13:36:10 +1000

In article <2udcd7$2je@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Walter F. Dexter <wfd@prairienet.org> wrote:

>Well, the advantage (in SCO and Interactive, anyhow) is that the cpio
>method doesn't stomp on the file dates, ownerships, etc. (It also, in my
>experience, at least feels faster - but that may be because you can see that
>it's doing something. There's also the advantage of being to stick some 
>rcmd/rsh stuff in and do it across a network.)
>
>And, anyhow, I don't think (IOW, I could be wrong) that -R is universally
>supported by cp. ...

For Gnu cp, "cp -a" is the easiest way to preserve everything except
inode change times.  -a is a synonym for -dpr.  -d says to preserve
links and special files.  -p says to preserve user and group ids (if
possible) and file times.  -r says to copy recursively and copy non-
directories as regular files (if -d is not given).  -R says to copy
directories recursively.

The difference between -R and -r is confusing and system-dependent.
Under FreeBSD, -d is not available but -R is equivalent to the Gnu
-pr.

Back to the original question.  xcopy is a bit like cp -av since it
is verbose.  Recent versions of DOS COPY prompt for overwriting of
files.  I'm not sure if XCOPY does that since I always use Gnu cp
for recursive copies under DOS (I use COPY for non-recursive copies
since it is faster).  cp -avi would prompt in a different way.  Here
DOS COPY is better since it allows you to answer "a" for "all" to
escape from the prompts.
Dos COPY
-- 
Bruce Evans  bde@kralizec.zeta.org.au

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From: unal@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Orhan Unal)
Subject: Re: Finite element packaga anyone?
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 12:57:36 GMT

In article <2ujo91$ntu@tuegate.tue.nl> paul@stack.urc.tue.nl (Paul Derks) writes:
>I seem to recall that a couple of months ago a finite element package 
>was being announced on cola. Could anyone tell me where I can find it.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>

I think you're refering to felt-2.0.tar.gz package, which can be found in 
/pub/Linux/apps/math at sunsite.unc.edu.

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From: anh@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: LINUX ETH0
Date: 23 Jun 94 17:39:08 CDT


Hello,

Is there something similar to NIT and PacketFilter on Linux?
Can someone post the code on how to open and read from it?

Thanks

Anh

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From: robking@actrix.gen.nz (Robert King)
Subject: HELP: HDD partitioning
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 12:12:29 GMT


I was playing with fdisk just now (sounds dangerous, I know) and when I
viewed the current partition info I got something similar to the following:

/dev/hda1 - 201 blocks
/dev/hda2 - 5 blocks DOS FAT12 (MS-DOS 6.0)
/dev/hda3 - 1 block OPUS
/dev/hda5 - 188 blocks DOS FAT16 (data)
/dev/hda6 - 41 blocks OS/2 HPFS (OS/2 2.11)
/dev/hda7 - 41 blocks OS/2 HPFS (Personal OS/2)

Firstly, where did /dev/hda4 go?
Secondly, what is OPUS.  I suspect that it is Boot Manager, it 
starts at cylinder 1 and ends at 5 (where BM puts itself), but confirmation 
would be reassuring for this newbie :-)


-- 
=======================================+======================================
Robert King                       NEW ZEALAND            robking@actrix.gen.nz
 COBOL: The only programming language to successfully compile "War and Peace"
=======================================+======================================

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
From: grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for SVGA card
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:59:43 GMT

Chris Pirih (pirih@eskimo.com) wrote:
: Grant Edwards wrote:

: > Mach8 server program takes pretty good advantage of the video boards
: > capabilities and it's several orders of magnitude faster than the
:                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > previous generic VGA board that didn't have a video processor 

: In what radix?

Two, of course.  Doesn't everybody mean a factor of two when they say
an order of magnitude?  ;)

: I have a hard time believing in a 1000x speedup...  10x I'd believe,
: maybe even 50x.

--
Grant Edwards                                 |Yow!  Barbie says, Take
Rosemount Inc.                                |quaaludes in gin and go to a
                                              |disco right away!  But Ken
grante@rosemount.com                          |says, WOO-WOO!!  No credit at
                                              |``Mr. Liquor''!!

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From: stormy@loopback (Stormy Henderson)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Why cannot xterm use -bg option in .xinitrc ?
Date: 26 Jun 1994 13:40:15 GMT


Lo there.


I wouldn't know anything about the config files, but the way I did it was
this:

mv /usr/bin/X11/xterm /usr/bin/X11/xterm.bin

Then I created a new /usr/bin/X11/xterm file:

xterm.bin -bg grey -fn 9x15 -geom 80x49

Chmodded it a+rx, and now whenever I start xterm, it comes up with a grey 
background, the "large" font, and 80 columns by 49 rows.

If you use seyon, it won't like the change to xterm, but there is a way around
that as well, so that seyon will use the grey background, etc.

mv /usr/bin/X11/seyon /usr/bin/X11/seyon.bin

And create a new /usr/bin/X11/seyon:

color_xterm.bin -bg grey -fn 9x15 -title "Stormy's Terminal Emulator" -geom \
    80x49+217+0 -e seyon.bin -noemulator -modems /dev/modem

Sigh.  I don't know if this is of any interest to anyway, but it was a major
accomplishment to me.  0-)  I spent most of an afternoon trying to figure out
how to load seyon with a grey background and the large font.

(anyway == anyone, I hate vi)  (anyone know how to setup tin to use pico?)     

Be happy...


- Stormy

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Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
From: kupiec@tigger.jvnc.net (Bob Kupiec)
Subject: BT445S explodes & takes out HD
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 13:46:51 GMT

Well, what else can I say?  I heard a small "pop" sound and the smell
of fried electronics. :-( The BT445S complained that the fuse was blown
upon startup.  The diags LED was constantly flashing, indicating the
same failure.

Upon closer inspection, it looked like a cap and resistor got fried on
the board.  It looks like these were protecting the SCSI bus.

It seems like my Micropolis HD is also dead.  It won't spin up when
power is applied to it.

So either the card took the drive, or the drive took the card.  Does
anyone know what would cause this type of major failure for a SCSI
card and drive?  It seems that only these two died.

Well, since it's only 2 months old, as least I can send them both back
to the manufacturer to be fix.  Anyone had any experience dealing with
Buslogic or Micropolis repair centers?  I hope all my data (Linux) isn't
lost.

Thanks.

-- 
Bob Kupiec  (HAM: N3MML) Phone: 609-897-7319             JvNC (GES, Inc.)
Network Operations            & 800-35-TIGER x7319      3 Independence Way
Email: kupiec@jvnc.net    Fax : 609-897-7310            Princeton, NJ 08540

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From: mastert <mastert@shoreline.ca>
Subject: Ftape
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 00:56:19 GMT

Again, does anyone know how to contact the author of ftape. It seems that
I can't, and I have a request for an enhancement 

When I access my tape drive, I can't access any floppys because it is 
hooked up to the floppy controller. Like an idiot, I tried to mount a floppy
systems while backing up software. Linux crashes. This isn't a bug, but 
it would be nice if ftape locked out all floppy use during tape access. 
If that is at all possible.

- Josh
mastert@shoreline.ca


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From: phil@zeus.fasttax.com (Phil Howard)
Subject: Re: Can Linux mount NeXT filesystem
Date: 23 Jun 1994 17:33:11 -0500

dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) writes:

>From a friend who has NeXTstep, he says the filesystem is a standard BSD 4.2 
>filesystem whatever that means.  I'm curious if other of the available
>filesystems which Linux has as options would work.

I don't recall a BSD filesystem in Linux.  You might try a BSD/386 system
for that if not.  But a BSD filesystem in Linux would be nice.

You might also consider doing the backup on a whole disk basis.  Linux can
read the full drive image.  Just compress that and back it up to the tape.
The catch is restoring it means restoring it all.  But this is what I do
with my Sun SparcStation which I don't have a way to boot if the hard drive
dies ... I back up the disk image with Linux.


>(BTW I am not interested in discussing the relative merits of Linux vs.
>NeXTstep because I think Linux is great but am also interested in working
>with NeXTstep)

Such things end in arguments anyway, too often between people who needs are
different and have already found their best solutions, which differ.
-- 
Phil Howard KA9WGN      | The drive spec says the capacity is 600mb unformatted
Unix/Internet/Sys Admin | and 525mb formatted.  So where do I find an unformat
CLR/Fast-Tax            | utility?
phil@fasttax.com        |

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From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Will my Computer Blow Up?
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 14:37:27 GMT

In article <1994Jun24.094736.579@duquesne.ie> asmall2@duquesne.ie (Alastair J. Small) writes:
>Apologies if this has nothing to do with Linux, but I'm concerned that my
>computer is about to blow up! Joking aside though, yesterday I noticed that
>whenever I was doing anything that accessed the disk (IDE 540Meg with >1024
>cylinders) FM 104 here in Dublin started crackling on the radio which is about
>6 ft from the computer!

A lot of PC's are inadequately screened. Make sure your earth is adequate
that you have screened leads where the manual says you should have. If you
still get interference definitely complain to your vendor and demand it is
fixed. In some countries if your PC interferes with something like the radio
next door you could easily end up being ordered to shut it down - not good.

Alan


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From: sandland@nki.no (Sandland Oerjan)
Subject: Re: NIS for Linux?
Date: 26 Jun 1994 14:53:01 GMT

D Elson (del@adied.oz.au) wrote:

: I guess the subject says it all...

: Is there any [plans for] getting NIS / yp on Linux?

: Del

I am actually downloading it now.....ftp to ftp.lysator.liu.se
in the dir pub/NYS ....I guess that is what you want.

0rjan

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From: bass@cais.cais.com (Tim Bass)
Subject: Re: Mosaic and WWW on LINUX
Date: 23 Jun 1994 15:29:53 GMT

I compiled the httpd source by setting the linux #define and
except for the warnings, compiled and runs fine!

Go linux!!

Norbert Kuemin (kuemin@srapc101.alcatel.ch) wrote:
: Frerk Meyer (frerk@educat.hu-berlin.de) wrote:
: : In <2u7ci1$n8i@tadpole.fc.hp.com>, howie@fc.hp.com (Howie Grapek) writes:
: : >Hi, 
: : >
: : >I'm looking for people who have experiences using Mosaic and the WWW 
: : >on Linux.  
: :                   howie@fc.hp.com

: : Our WWW Server (see below) is running very well under Linux 1.0. We use
: : our Linux Box as a development Workplace too with Mosaic 2.4 with great
: : satisfaction. I simply installed the binary distributions for Linux without
: : hassle, and there were no Linux specific difficulties.
: : So IMHO there is no need for a WWW/Mosaic FAQ on Linux.

: I also run httpd1.1 (Server for Hypertext Transfer Protocol) and Mosaic 2.4.
: I've also coded some bins for httpd. I'm using Linux 1.0

: --
: ---------------------------------------+---------------------------------------
: +----------V----------+ Eltech. ING HTL|EMAIL: norbert.kuemin@alcatel.ch
: | A  L  C  A  T  E  L | Norbert Kuemin |DEC:   PSI%(0228)4795123920::ZAD_KUEMIN
: +---------------------+ Alcatel STR    |X.400: c=CH a=arCom p=Alcatel
:          S T R          CH-8804 Au/ZH  |       s=Kuemin g=Norbert
: ---------------------------------------+---------------------------------------

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From: xxx.@xxx.uio.no (XXXX)
Subject: programming parallell ports
Date: 26 Jun 1994 15:22:40 GMT

I'm interested in controlling some step-motors with my
computer running linux, and this require that I can 
"program the parallell port". Now I wonder how this
is done in linux. Is there a device you can use, is there
some special library, or do you have to create your
own device-driver or what?

I need to control the status of each individual pin of the
parallell port.


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From: del@adied.oz.au (D Elson)
Subject: NIS for Linux?
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:09:49 GMT


I guess the subject says it all...

Is there any [plans for] getting NIS / yp on Linux?

Del

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