Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #313
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Date:     Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:13:07 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #313, Volume #2                Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: future of Unixware (Bill Vermillion)
  colors on vga (Randi Singh@)
  Re: Linux on the DEC Alpha (Dwight M Evers)
  Linux-3D-package (Ben-Lumumba Kheir)
  Screend ported to linux? (kender@client.erinet.com (Daniel Garcia ))
  MIDI, Linux, and .au files (James W. Abendschan)
  Re: Yggdrasil and PAS16 SCSI/CDROM: Any successes? (Jason Van Patten)
  Re: Linux on the DEC Alpha (Roy Hann)
  Re: WP Said NO GO to Native Port. (Scott Mitchell)
  Peer-to-peer network between a Linux and a DOS (Nick Rossi)
  Problem with term ... (Michael Lin Pang Kui)
  Term w/ Mosaic (ned)
  Re: Need recommendation for SVGA card (Chris Pirih)
  Re: Eudora / LANtastic for TCP/IP / Linux problems (Golda Bernstein)
  Re: Problem with term ... (Michael Lin Pang Kui)
  SCO Framemaker? (was Re: WP Said NO GO to Native Port.) (Mike Jagdis)

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:31:04 GMT

In article <DMW.94Jun21102346@prism1.prism1.com>,
David Wright <dmw@prism1.prism1.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "BE" == Bruce Evans <bde@kralizec.zeta.org.au> writes:

>  BE> No 486 can handle 96 simultaneous Zmodems at today's modem speeds.

>       I don't think any (single) 486 can handle 96 high-speed transfers at
>the same time of ANY kind (ftp, nfs, etc). But at least for ethernet the load
>gets spread around evenly and there are no flow control concerns.

....
>       One of the main benefits of all the intelligent cards I have seen is
>that they do all the flow control on their own. That is, the main host does
>not have to deal with interupt servicing/latency when someone is running
>38kb and using XON/XOFF, or 57/115kb and RTS/CTS.

>       My favorite board (although pricy) is the Specialix RIO series. They
>put an Inmos transputer on the host card, and one in each terminal cluster
>adapter. So your host adapter has 4 ports on it, each RTA has 4 network ports
>on it, and you can daisy-chain up to 16 RTA's in any configuration you want.
>You can also set up redundant lines between the host adapter & the RTAs, so
>if one line gets cut or disconnected it can transparently switch over to
>another line with no loss of data or time lag.

Re: RIO and the number of high speed modems.   I have used the
RIO also, and it is excellent.

Interfacing to the modem at 115kbs is needed to fully utilized
the compression schemes in the modems.   On pre-compressed
data, or not highly compressible data the 57k line would be
fine.

The RIO specs looks like they would be easy to run 128 modems
at that speed.   If you wanted maximum (115 kbs) to all the
modems, my quick scratchings show you top out in the 80+ range.

If however, you are running file transfer programs that require
a lot of CPU intervention, then you would be CPU limited.

>
>       Another nice thing about this setup (and the main reason I use it
>over some of the other boards) is that you can have a pretty long distance
>between any two devices on the network, like 150 meters. This lets me string
>a single wire (2 UTP pairs) inbetween two of our buildings and still get the
>ability to have clusters of serial and parallel ports in both buildings
>attached to the same Unix machine.


I also kludged in an extended distance when someone decided the
computer needed to be somewhere else.

If laid out in a line it was like this.

8-port A ---long line ----- computer/8ports ----long line - 8portB


The middle office moved elsewhere so the computer would up at
the head.  I just left the middle 8-ports connected and put the
computer where the first group was, and the middle one just
acted as a pass through buffer.  

computer(localport)---------8ports as buffer --------8ports

With their configuration you can move the host computer to
anyone of the remote 8 port areas and just plug it in and run
with no real changes.

>       Anyway, I would take a decent intelligent card like the Specialix,
>DigiBoard, or Computone (Maxspeed?) over a dumb board or a CPU upgrade *IF*
>I thought that I/O loading would be a problem.

Right.

-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org

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From: Randi Singh@
Subject: colors on vga
Date: 23 Jun 1994 17:42:52 GMT
Reply-To: randips@vnet.ibm.com

I got xwindows to show up finally. Now the problem is
i get only two colors with ftwm blue and pink. when i run
(vga16) xcolormap it shows only two colors. what is happening
to other 14 colors including red and green ? I see rgb.txt
is in the right directory needed. I am tseng4000 svga card
with 512K vedio ram and a 640x480 color goldstar monitor.

Any ideas.

Randi


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From: evers@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight M Evers)
Subject: Re: Linux on the DEC Alpha
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 17:33:03 GMT

Andrew Riebs (riebs@tanfl.amt.ako.dec.com) wrote:

: > NOTICE, this is an ALPHA "PC", not a AXP!!! Hopefully device drivers for 

: "Alpha", "AXP", "Alpha AXP", "Alpha PC", etc., though all legally
: incorrect ("incorrect usage", according to the trademark lawyers :-), all
: refer to systems built around Digital's Alpha AXP chip.  So called Alpha
: PC's are characterized by the use of common PC-style components for their
: buses, disks, etc., but they are still built around the Alpha AXP cpu chip.
I should have clarified it for those of us who don't work at DEC. I  am 
refering to the DEC ALPHA 3000 AXP/150 workstation. Excellent CAD/CAM/CAE 
workstation that really uts the HP's and (586)'s to shame.

: A number of us are pushing to get to the day where we can the world's only
: *open* operating system, Linux, on the world's fastest desktop systems
: (Alphas, of course) for our own use, and for anyone else who wants it.
I would only hope that you of all people could persuade DEC to go to a 
more streemline Unix. People will disagree that I think that OSF/1 (and I 
won't even begin to bash VAX/VMS...[what a pile of crap]) is not the BEST 
UNIX for the such an awsome machine. ( I refer to the workstation!!!) 


: -- 
: Andy Riebs, Alpha Migration Tools Group |                (508)264-7854
: Digital Equipment Corporation AKO2-1/G3 | (work) riebs@amt.ako.dec.com
: "Opinions are mine, not my employer's"  | (home)  andy@freckles.mv.com
Good to see that _DEC_WORKERS_, if not at least corperate people, read 
the net. Who does DEC think uses their stuff anyway? The DEC's, HP's, 
(586)'s, and SUN's of this world are redefining the term open and 
workstations to mean what PC people have been doing for years. Everything 
on one platform at one site with everything on it.

============================================================================
                        |       "...peace is a thing which a person
Dwight M. Evers         |           must be willing to fight for..."
evers@plains.NoDak.edu  |
        NDSU            |                       -Abe Lincoln
============================================================================


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From: ben@cc.univie.ac.at (Ben-Lumumba Kheir)
Subject: Linux-3D-package
Date: 25 Jun 1994 18:42:46 GMT






Hallo,
J'm interresting to find any 3D software for Linux 1.0.
Please. if you know something about it, e-mail:ben@wsks.cc.univie.ac.at

Best regards,
Ben Lumumba Kheir
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From: kender@client.erinet.com (Daniel Garcia <System Overlord>)
Subject: Screend ported to linux?
Date: 25 Jun 1994 18:44:58 GMT

Hello alls - I was wondering if anyone out there was aware of a linux
port of screend (I know there is a BSD port...).  If there isn't one, is
anyone working on one?

If the answer to all of the above is no, I would be interested in looking
into doing a port of it, as I would definitely be able to use it.

Thanks in advance!

D

-- 
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Ethernet is||Daniel Garcia - ATP Group - LLNL Gigabit Testbed||AntiClipperCens
for Sissies||  Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Labs - Livermore, CA ||orshipFightingF
Disclaimer.||dgarcia@cohl.llnl.gov<->kender@client.erinet.com||reedomLovingCru
 Try Linux ||    This .sig file (c)1994 by Daniel Garcia     ||saderForRights.
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 Fibre Channel - Unix - TCP/IP - Music - MIDI - Biking - Networking - Reading
    GCS/MU d? -p+ c++(----) l++ u+ e+(*) m+@ s/+ !n h f+@ !g w++ t++ r y?

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From: unkadath!shamus@naucse.cse.nau.edu (James W. Abendschan)
Subject: MIDI, Linux, and .au files
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 09:43:48 GMT

I'd like to make my Linux machine play .au files through my soundblaster
via a MIDI signal, sort of like a playback-only sampler.

Basically, it needs to take input from a MIDI device (keyboard),
and play an .au file associated with that note.  Pitch shifting
would also be nice, but the former is more of what I'm looking for.

Does anything like this exist?  (Probabally not.)  Does anyone
have some sample code that reads from the MIDI device (/dev/midi,
I presume) and outputs the information?  (playing the .au file is the
easy part, though pitch shifting might be a little bit complicated.)

Thanks,

James

-- 
James W. Abendschan                "Turing," she said.  "You are under arrest."
...!naucse!unkadath!shamus    shamus@unkadath.uucp      jwa@sunset.cse.nau.edu

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From: vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jason Van Patten)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil and PAS16 SCSI/CDROM: Any successes?
Date: 25 Jun 1994 19:41:52 GMT

olav woelfelschneider (wosch@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de) wrote:
: I think the problem is in the autodetection routine of the driver.
: If you set an interrupt for the scsi part by hand, simply by putting the
: right #define PAS16_OVERRIDE into pas16.c then the driver won't probe but will
: work with the coded interrupt.

        Either way, it's an autoprobe problem.  Your hacked worked for you..
mine worked for me. :)

--
Jason Van Patten                  | If at first you don't succeed, keep |
Clarkson University               | on sucking till you do succeed.     |
vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu  |                     - Curly Howard  |
                                  |                 (The Three Stooges) |
            ** Any opinions expressed here are actually
               yours, you just don't know it yet. **
 

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From: rhh@tachy.uah.ualberta.ca (Roy Hann)
Subject: Re: Linux on the DEC Alpha
Date: 25 Jun 1994 19:49:01 GMT

evers@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight M Evers) writes:
: I would only hope that you of all people could persuade DEC to go to a 
: more streemline Unix. People will disagree that I think that OSF/1 (and I 
: won't even begin to bash VAX/VMS...[what a pile of crap]) is not the BEST 
: UNIX for the such an awsome machine. ( I refer to the workstation!!!) 
: 
[deleted] 
: Good to see that _DEC_WORKERS_, if not at least corperate people, read 
: the net. Who does DEC think uses their stuff anyway? The DEC's, HP's, 
: (586)'s, and SUN's of this world are redefining the term open and 
: workstations to mean what PC people have been doing for years. Everything 
: on one platform at one site with everything on it.

I don't often flame people, really, but what is the point of this
inarticulate garble?  You may have a good point here but I am damned 
if I can see what it is.

========================================================================

Roy Hann
Senior Analyst, Information Systems        rhh@tachy.uah.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta Hospitals            (MIME-capable mail agent)
WMC 2C2.21, 8440-112th Street,     
Edmonton, Alberta                          Tel: (403)492-4367
T6G 0N4                                    FAX: (403)492-3090
Canada

PLEASE: No shipments by courier from outside Canada; use regular mail.
========================================================================

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From: smitch@geog.utoronto.ca (Scott Mitchell)
Subject: Re: WP Said NO GO to Native Port.
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:51:52 GMT

mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) writes:
>cmay@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Christopher M. May) writes:

>>This is a message I got From: Brad Caldwell <CALDWELL@wordperfect.com>

>>*I appreciate your interest in WordPerfect products running on Linux.  We 
>>*do not
>>*have any plans to do a native Linux port at this time.  It is possible 
>>*that WP6.0 for SCO UNIX may run on Linux but we have not tested this yet.

>>I assume many people have gotten this response.  I say, we keep
>>mailing, except, don't put "Linux" in the subject.
>>Maybe they're keying on this and sending automatic responses.
>Read the post again.... they *ARE* interested in perhaps using the SCO 
>version under Linux IBCS/COFF, but are not interested in spending gobs of
>money in a native Linux port.  I could have told anyone this before all
>this started.

AND they still DO read your mail, despite the automatic reply.  I got
mail back from such a query, and it reconfirmed that they are genuinely
interested in adapting the SCO version, as mentioned above.

-- 
Scott Mitchell

smitch@geog.utoronto.ca


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From: voyager@eskimo.com (Nick Rossi)
Subject: Peer-to-peer network between a Linux and a DOS
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 19:47:39 GMT

Hi!!

I'm interested in getting a couple of ethernet cards to hook up one 
machine running Linux and another running DOS.  I have some tailor-made 
software that's been written for both environments, and they use the same 
data files... I'd like to have the Linux machine spawn processes on the 
DOS machine, and use the data file output from the DOS process in an X 
application.

Is this a worthwhile endeavor?  Can I do this with some kind of 
peer-to-peer ethernet connection?  I assume I need to stick with ethernet 
since Linux has extensive support for ethernet cards.  The data files I'm 
working with are rather large, so they'd take too long to transfer over a 
serial or parallel link...I'd like to use ethernet coax if possible.

Input appreciated!  Thanks!

========================================================================
Nick Rossi
voyager@eskimo.com

"You generally don't find that kind of behavior in a major appliance..."
========================================================================


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From: c2155197@comp.hkbc.hk (Michael Lin Pang Kui)
Subject: Problem with term ...
Date: 25 Jun 1994 12:37:25 GMT


hi all,
        When I finished testing my line with 'linecheck' , it didn't state that I need to escape any char. So I started term on both sides ,however , I still 
got a lot of rubbish in my remote side when I started 'trsh' . 

        Anyone can help ?? 

Thanks in advance 

Michael


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From: ned@netcom.com (ned)
Subject: Term w/ Mosaic
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 19:58:12 GMT

Is there anyone out there that has/is using Mosaic with term?
Can you tell me anything about if how the performance is?  Slow, very
slow...etc.
Also, is it worth the effort to compile and use, if I only plan on using
it with TERM or a 14.4k SLIP connection?
Please reply via e-mail, but here is ok to. :)


-- 
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|\| E |) ... "your god is dead and no one cares" - |\| I |/|  
penetration. seize the media by the hips and take the plunge-A.Hultkrans

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
From: pirih@eskimo.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for SVGA card
Reply-To: pirih@eskimo.com
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 03:30:55 GMT

In article <1994Jun22.195130.23500@rosevax.rosemount.com>, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Mach8 server program takes pretty good advantage of the video boards
> capabilities and it's several orders of magnitude faster than the
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> previous generic VGA board that didn't have a video processor 

In what radix?  I have a hard time believing in a 1000x speedup...
10x I'd believe, maybe even 50x.

pedantically yours,
chris

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From: gberns@park.uvsc.edu (Golda Bernstein)
Subject: Re: Eudora / LANtastic for TCP/IP / Linux problems
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 22:02:02 GMT

In article <2taku1$34o@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Bruce@usra.edu writes:
>Sorry to do this "mass distribution", but we've spent hundreds of manhours
>on the following problem(s), so I figure it's time to bother the Net...

Did you try Artisoft's Tech Support line? Our TCP/IP guys are pretty good,
and if they couldn't solve it I should've heard about it by now...
>
>
>I've had a series of problems with the following setup:
>
(stuff deleted...)
>  - Artisoft LANtastic v6.0
>  - Artisoft TCP/IP stack (derivative of Wollongong's TCP/IP stack)
Make sure you have LANtastic for TCP/IP v1.1 at least.  Contact me if you want
to get on our next beta cycle, I can't get everyone on but I can try.

>
>"SOMETIMES" Problems:
>- I believe that these two are related:
>  - When in the Artisoft TCP/IP Windows Telnet module
>    - If I "logout" of Phoenix, instead of a "clean" close,
>      the module reports an error of "Server closed 
>  - When in Eudora, trying to pop my mail down or send it up to Phoenix
>    - An "early close" error often occurs
Hope these were solved by V1.1.18 of Linux as your other correspondent suggestedNot familiar to me!

>
>"ALWAYS" Problem:
>- The PCs cannot telnet to the SMTP port on Renzo (HP UX 8)
>  - Eudora SMTP sending doesn't work
>  - Artisoft TCP/IP Windows Telnet module:
>    - Telnet via standard port 23 works in VT100 or 3270 emulation modes
>    - Telnet to port 25 (SMTP) or 110 (PO3) only works if in 3270 mode
>
Should work, I can telnet to this port on a Sun OS 4.1.3 using Vt-100. I'd
be happy to work with you off-line on this, if you'll give me the internet
address of Renzo I'll telnet from my setup and get a trace of the error, maybe
that will tell us what is going on.   If we figure it out we can post it to here.

>"RECENT, NEW" Problem:
>Files sent/rcvd as attachments via UUEncode, BinHex, or MIME don't generally
>xmit/rcv well.  This problem is again confined to the LAN - tests from a
>client sending to himself from off the LANtastic network showed no problems.
>
Not sure, but as a default try increasing the number of Packet Buffers to 20
in the LTCP-MGR program (under Expert Parameters in User Account Maintenance),
make sure the Buffer Size is at 1526 (max) and Window Multiple is 3 or less. Try
setting Window Mult to 1.  Make sure the Min. Timeout is at 2 and the Max. 
Timeout is at 300.

Hope some of this helps and is of semi-public interest.  I don't often readi
this newsgroup, but if other people have LANtastic-related problems you can
e-mail me and I'll get it to the right person - don't guarantee it will be 
faster than calling Tech Support, though!


Golda "Bugzapper" Bernstein
Artisoft Support Engineering
602 690 3778
602 690 3720 FAX
gberns@artisoft.com


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From: c2155197@comp.hkbc.hk (Michael Lin Pang Kui)
Subject: Re: Problem with term ...
Date: 25 Jun 1994 12:46:36 GMT

Michael Lin Pang Kui (c2155197@comp.hkbc.hk) wrote:

: hi all,
:       When I finished testing my line with 'linecheck' , it didn't state that I need to escape any char. So I started term on both sides ,however , I still 
: got a lot of rubbish in my remote side when I started 'trsh' . 

:       Anyone can help ?? 

: Thanks in advance 

: Michael

PS: here is my term.log . Hope this help :<

<0><177>`2<0><157><208>:timed out at 152 trans 1
<0><177>`:timed out at 150 trans 2
2<0><157><208>:timed out at 150 trans 3
<0><177>`2<0><157><208>00000

Michael 


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From: jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk (Mike Jagdis)
Subject: SCO Framemaker? (was Re: WP Said NO GO to Native Port.)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 00:01:00 +0000

> I much prefer FrameMaker (call me weird).
 > [...]
> there an existing version for SCO?

Yes. It's not cheap though.

 > Is that likely to work with the SCO-support in Linux?

Yes. As long as they use sockets rather than TLI - and given their heritage 
I'd guess that's the case. Send me a copy and I'll make sure it works :-).

> Come to think of it, just what is the status of the COFF support?

Still alpha although it's quite a challenge to find a bug these days...

                        Mike  
 

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