Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #312
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Date:     Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:13:05 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #312, Volume #2                Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: SCO Framemaker? (was Re: WP Said NO GO to Native Port.) (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: Can a DOS virus harm my linux partition? (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: S3 Support - A bit lacking? (Niedner)
  X11 -Nec 2A ?? (Burton Bicksler)
  Re: When is the Next Infomagic CD set? (Joel Goldberger)
  Re: Do I need Motif to install Mosaic? (neal kettler)
  smail (Peter Bendall)
  Re: fvwm question (Jason Van Patten)
  Re: Slackware 1.2.0 and Mitsumi CDROM (David W. Berry)
  Re: comp.os.linux.misc (Brad Pitzel)
  DOS File System Corrupted by LINUX??? (William Bushing)
  Re: Two IDE drives (jmantel@ins.infonet.net)
  Re: future of Unixware (Martin Sohnius)
  Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist) (Christian Henry)
  Re: Linux.... On a Sparc? (Ziniu "Michael" Wei)
  Re: input overrun (Ziniu "Michael" Wei)
  Re: Will my Computer Blow Up? (Stephen Parkinson)
  Help: cd-rom with philips LMS-206 (Venkat R Maram)

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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: SCO Framemaker? (was Re: WP Said NO GO to Native Port.)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 01:17:25 GMT

swampler@noao.edu () writes:

>Hmmm, this discussion of using the SCO version of WP raises a question:

>  I much prefer FrameMaker (call me weird).  Since I'd be willing to bet
>money no Linux-native version of FM is likely to show up, is there an
>existing version for SCO?

Yes, the low street price is currently $2,000.00 for a single floating
license.  Seems outrageous to me... we don't have $50,000.00 to spend on
wordprocessing here, which is one reason we went with WordPerfect for Unix,
at a small fraction of that cost.

-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | mark@taylor.infi.net           |
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Can a DOS virus harm my linux partition?
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 01:22:55 GMT

spin@netcom.com (Nancy Perry) writes:

>This may be a stupid question, but I just have to know.  If my 
>DOS partition gets a virus, is my linux partition in jeopardy?

Not if you don't boot up MS-"DOS" after that point :)

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  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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From: niedner@petrus.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr (Niedner)
Subject: Re: S3 Support - A bit lacking?
Date: 21 Jun 1994 09:18:41 GMT

Brian Wellington (bwelling@wam.umd.edu) wrote:

: >Could you share what you did, as my couple of hours playing with the
: >VGA clock registers failed to get me anthing other than standard VGA
: >with my S3 based Spea/V7 Mirage. I only have 40 Mbytes for Linux, so
: >rebuilding anything large may be a bit of a problem.

: I have an Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 Plus/VLB, and was able to get 132x43 by
: editing setup.S, only changing the string searched for in BIOS, it's
: length and location (got those from DOSEMU getrom), and modified the
: Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 values.  It works in text mode, and is fine with
: X, but svgalib programs don't work (the screen has a bunch of black
: vertical columns, and dosemu really screws up when it's quit, and there's
: no way to fix it.   Any ideas?

: Brian

So, well, unfotunately - as a newbie - i wasn't able to learn anything from
your words... they seem to be mysetrious to me. But: i do have the same
problem (17" Monitor, S3 Board (miro 8s)). So please, please, could you
post a more _precise_ description of what you did, and perhaps add some 
hints what to change for other graphic boards ... I think anyone involved 
in this thread would be thankful.

Thanks a lot in advance, Sven


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From: bbick@netcom.com (Burton Bicksler)
Subject: X11 -Nec 2A ??
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 20:31:58 GMT

I had posted a question about this before, but didn't get a response so 
I'll try one more time, before spending a lot of time digging.

I have an older NEC 2A MultiSync monitor that I am using on my Linux 
system while I'm working on repairing my newer Tatung monitor.

The NEC works fine, except when I try to use it with X.  Then X insists 
on causing the NEC to change sync, even when running as standard VGA.  
Could this be related to 'clocks', or is it caused by something else.  I 
have another Tatung(17") monitor that can handle the scan rate  ok and I 
can see X work fine there, but that is on my main production system so I 
don't want to tie it up for any length of time.

Has anyone else tried X with the old NEC 2A?  I'm running the Summer '94 
Yggdrasil release.  I've tried this with three different SVGA cards, one 
the on board WD chipset, one using Cirrus and an ATI VGA Ultra.  All with 
the same results.

Thanks in advance,
Burt

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                                             bbick@netcom.com

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From: Joel@InfoMagic.com (Joel Goldberger)
Subject: Re: When is the Next Infomagic CD set?
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 16:17:35 GMT

In article <2uf4oa$ck9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> sarr@citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson) writes:
>Path:
>From: sarr@citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson)
>Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
>Subject: Re: When is the Next Infomagic CD set?
>Date: 24 Jun 1994 17:22:17 GMT
>Organization: CITI, University of Michigan
>Message-ID: <2uf4oa$ck9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
>References: <2uf237$c2o@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>


>When I called a couple of weeks ago they said it should ship around July 1. 
>I got a flyer describing its contents in the mail yesterday.

The official story from InfoMagic:

The 2-CD disc set was ready to send to mastering last week.  We were asked to 
delay production pending an upcoming announcement regarding the Slackware 
distribution.  This announcement is expected to be made the first week of 
July.  We will begin shipping immediately after the announcement !!

Please bear with us, it *WILL* be worth it.

Joel Goldberger
InfoMagic, Inc.

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From: kettler@CS.ColoState.EDU (neal kettler)
Subject: Re: Do I need Motif to install Mosaic?
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 15:12:03 GMT

In article <2uhdh4$p5s@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>,
Daniel Alex Finkelstein <daniel@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> wrote:
>You don't need OSF/Motif to install Mosaic, you just need it to run it.  I

You can get a copy with the motif libraries staticly linked, then you
don't need motif. I am running it just fine on my machine without motif.

>tried running xmosaic without Motif installed and it just wouldn't work, but
>after I installed the Motif code (and had mwm running - it seems to run nicely
>under it) xmosaic functioned properly.  To bad Motif's so pricey -- I guess
>I haven't used it as much to make it worthwhile yet.
>
Look around the FTP sites, and you should be able to find a staticly linked
version of 2.4.

-- 
========== Neal Kettler < kettler@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu > ==========
The following sentence is false.
The preceding sentence is true.
=========================================================================

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From: PETER@EMBL-HAMBURG.DE (Peter Bendall)
Subject: smail
Date: 22 Jun 1994 06:56:07 GMT

Before I start the question, can someone tell me the polite place to post
 "technical" questions on software problems? c.o.l.help  or c.o.l.misc ?
 I have read everything on this server from both, and posted my _original_
 technical question to .help as it seemed the right place (and does so still)
 (no replies as yet)

Please! I think you are all Unix Experts who know Unix from end to end, and my
 little problem may be intuitive to you, but the problem is too deep for me as a
 UulP (Unix UnLiterate Person). 

[Q] Having installed slackware from the mirror on the nearest ftp (A, AP + N 
    disks) with a 1.0.8 kernal, smail 3.1, and pine, using Ethernet TCP/IP:
     Only root can receive mail. There is no mailbox (pine "inbox") generated
     for other users and mails are bounced as "no such user" although the user
     can send mails. I fdisked the lot, fetched everything again and 
     reinstalled with setup, but its just the same. 

    o Is there anyone in North Germany who could hold my hand on this?
    o Can/Should I get another "mail" package from ftp and replace smail?
    o Should I simply fdisk the lot and start over with another distribution
      from somewhere else?

Incidentally I _do_ (surprise surprise) understand the basics of privileges and
 permissions. I also guess there might be a debugging mode in the program
 that tries to generate or write to the mailbox AND that the one and a half inch
 stack of paper from "man 5 smail" and "man 8 smail" may have that info hidden
 somewhere, but I'm trying to keep 22 DOS Pcs and 23 Macs running at the same
 time as doing the Linux pilot installations and its not so easy. 
 (maybe rec.juggling would be a nice place to hide from it all)

ever so slightly ...'d off
Thanks in advance -

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From: vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jason Van Patten)
Subject: Re: fvwm question
Date: 25 Jun 1994 15:46:29 GMT

Hi again -

        OK, again, let me say thanks to the flood of email :).  Thing is, as
I mentioned in my last post, IconBox in the system.fvwmrc (I set it there 
because I'm the only one who uses it) DOES NOT WORK.  I get no errors or 
anything like that, but I also get no IconBox either.

        Someone mentioned something like StubbornIconPlacement.  This did
nothing either.

        As I posted earlier, I checked and rechecked and triple checked the
man pages on both X and fvwm, and neither said anything about a IconBox.

        If it matters:  I'm using the Yggdrasil Summer 94 CD.  Again,
reply via mail if you know of anything that might be able to help.  Thanks so
much.

                                                Jason

--
Jason Van Patten                  | If at first you don't succeed, keep |
Clarkson University               | on sucking till you do succeed.     |
vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu  |                     - Curly Howard  |
                                  |                 (The Three Stooges) |
            ** Any opinions expressed here are actually
               yours, you just don't know it yet. **
 

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From: dwb@netcom.com (David W. Berry)
Subject: Re: Slackware 1.2.0 and Mitsumi CDROM
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 19:10:56 GMT

Well, I'm seeing what sounds like a related problem.  If I first boot DOS
and then do a warm boot to linux, my mitsumi CD-ROM works fine.  If I try
to cold boot (RESET or power on) into linux, my mitsumi drive isn't found.
Any clues?


-- 

David W. Berry          dwb@netcom.com                  Greenwing Enterprises

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From: pitzel@cs.sfu.ca (Brad Pitzel)
Subject: Re: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 07:22:01 GMT

In <mtalebiCrs39p.8FI@netcom.com> mtalebi@netcom.com (max talebi) writes
>Does anyone know any ftp sites for downloading the linux OS. I heard you can
>run this OS on 386 PC w/ 4-8 Meg. RAM, any Idea anyone.
>
>Thanks.
>Max R. Talebi@netcom.com
>                                             mtalebi@netcom.com

Linux? Nope, never heard of it.

:-):-):-):-):-)
--brad



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From: 6500boo@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (William Bushing)
Subject: DOS File System Corrupted by LINUX???
Date: 21 Jun 94 22:31:21 GMT

A month ago I mounted my DOS hard drive under Linux, but
forgot to add the "-t msdos" option. I ftp'ed some files
from our mini to the DOS drive.

Later, in accessing these new DOS files (and several othyers
in that directory), I get garbled file names under certain
DOS applications (notably Laplink 2). DOS programs seem to
recognize the files properly and I can copy them, etc., but
the newly-copied files (on floppy or hard drive) exhibit
the same garbled file names under Laplink.

When using Laplink on the directory with a side-by-side
display, one window may show the garbled files names while
the adjacent window shows normal file names. Sometimes only
a few of the DOS file names are listed in one window and the
names of the files in the adjacent window may be normal or
garbled. If I re-log the window with the garbled file names,
the normal names appear for a while.

I might add that this problem occurs with two different copies
of Laplink and in files copied to a different system. It appears
that the mounted filesystem may have been partially corrupted.
Can anyone suggest what to do next??? Thanks in advance.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
William W. (Boo) Bushing  |  "Life is too important to be
6500boo@ucsbuxa.bitnet    |       taken seriously"
6500boo@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu  | 
bushing@lifesci.ucsb.edu  |            - Einstein
Marine Biotechnology Lab   Univ. of Calif. Santa Barbara
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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From: jmantel@ins.infonet.net
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Two IDE drives
Date: 24 Jun 1994 02:39:38 GMT
Reply-To: jmantel@ins.infonet.net

In article <2udd4aINNdud@mickey.eng.gulfaero.com>, bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy) writes:
>Hiya:
>
>I have kind of a cross subject post, so please forgive the dual posting.
>I was able to hook up two IDE segates as master and slave: st 3243a master 
>with linux; st3144a slave with dos/windows. when I boot into linux, the boot
>log records hda1 - the st3243a and hdb1 - the 3144a, but I can't access or
>boot the 3144a. Conversly, if I switch the master/slave setup and run fdisk
>under dos on the 3144a, I can see the 3243a as fixed drive 2, but can't get
>to it. What am I missing here? Something basic, I'm sure. Booth drives work
>fine alone or as the master drive. Any suggestions? I'm almost tempted to
>call a local pc place and ask them to install the second drive for me, but
>I'd really rather so it myself. Any advice/help/suggestions would be more
>than welcome. TIA.
>
>
>
>
>Bill McCarthy
>bmccarth@gulfaero.com
>
>{new .sig under construction. CAUTION: we whistle at women.}
>TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT\_______________________________
>Linux + i486dx2/66 = neato!
>cat bin/usual | sed -e 's/company opinons/ /my opinions/g' > disclaimer
>
> 
>   
>
>
It is the master slave thing.  If you have lilo you can have linux on the slave
drive but if you do not have lilo then you cannot have linux totally on the
slave drive.  You only have one boot record and that exists on the master
drive.
So if you have a boot manager, then you can have it point to other drives
because the boot manager has the boot information for each operating system
in the boot record. 

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:50:45 GMT

Eduard Marghidan (eduard@qdeck.com) wrote:
:      James Logajan wrote in article <jameslCr7Cvp.Mu6@netcom.com> :
: >: +---------------
: >: | You would be surprised how many people use Unix at work and do not know it.
: >: +------------->8
: >
: >
: >I seem to recall that either MacDonalds or Burger King (I forget which)
: >used Xenix on their front counter order-entry systems. Maybe to get Unix
: >experience, a person should flip burgers :-)
: >

: I've done a bit of observing this phenomena. Her's what I found:

: 7-Eleven uses an embedded SCO SVR4 application.
: Wells Fargo Bank uses Tektronix terminals with Motif and a color text-based application.
: AMC movie theaters use an MS-Windows application.
: Merril-Lynch uses DESQview/X and Motif, to display Motif clients running off SunOS
: and HP/UX.

: I find it pretty fascinating...

: Eduard
: /* expressing my own views */

What a life, Eduard!  After all this drudgery from bank to stock-broker,
and to the movies, you then get your nourishment from 7-eleven?

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Martin Sohnius          | "The Information Superhighway"             |
Novell Labs Europe      | voted "Word of the Year 1993"              |
Bracknell, England      | by the American Dialect Society.           |
+44-344-724031          |            - The Wall Street Journal -     |
                        +--------------------------------------------+
                        (I speak for myself, not for Novell or anyone else.)

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From: henryc@reality.UUCP (Christian Henry)
Subject: Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)
Date: 21 Jun 1994 10:21:32 -0400
Reply-To: henryc@io.org

In article <1994Jun20.050537.28923@ksmith.com>,
ROBERT ADAMS <robert@ksmith.com> wrote:

>:   Why not just have a DIRCOLORS (or LSCOLORS or something) environment
>: variable storing the escape sequences?  It could be completely
>: configurable, and terminal-dependent, in your .profile/.login, or
>: re-configurable on-the-fly, it wouldn't require any special files or
>: paths cluttering things up, it wouldn't require hitting libcurses, and
>: it would seem to be very much in the UNIX spirit.  Wouldn't this
>: address everyone's objections?
>
>Have you looked at the size of the DIR_COLORS file?  1828k on my machine
>man that would be one HUGE environmnet variable..

My _GOD_, I hope you mean _bytes_, not _kilobytes_!  ;-)  At any rate,
haven't you noticed how much of the file is comments?  If they were taken
out, the environment variable wouldn't be larger than the one needed for TRN
(for somewhat custom headers).

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
From: ziniuwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ziniu "Michael" Wei)
Subject: Re: Linux.... On a Sparc?
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:54:01 GMT

Yan Xiao (xiao@ie.utoronto.ca) wrote:
> dave@morris.uucp (Dave Smith) writes:


> Well, I have something more comparable:  can Sun 386i run
> Linux?  Or is it better off, if 386i can, to run Sun OS4.0.1?

386i does run SunOS 4.0.1.

--
Ziniu Wei               CEDAR, SUNY at Buffalo       ziniuwei@cs.buffalo.edu
Rule # 1:  Network *is* computer

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From: ziniuwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ziniu "Michael" Wei)
Subject: Re: input overrun
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:17:46 GMT

Michel Anders (michela@sci.kun.nl) wrote:
> When i'm receiving data via kermit over my 9600b modem, and simultaneously
> doing a mread on on another virtual console, mread gives the message:
> TTY65: input overrun. On the VC that runs kermit the transfer indicator
> turns to N. killing mread solves the problem, but where can i get info on
> curing this more permanently? (Faqs are great for single topic problems,
> but combinations of problems are a pain)

> Any info appreciated,

> Michel. (BTW my kermit is 5A(188) 23 nov 92, mtools is version 2.0.5+)


It seems that you have a non-buffered UART.  Do a "setserial -a
/dev/modem".  If your URAT is a 16450 or 8250, you might need to
replace a IO card or the UART chip.


--
Ziniu Wei               CEDAR, SUNY at Buffalo       ziniuwei@cs.buffalo.edu
Rule # 1:  Network *is* computer

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From: Stephen@zmemw16.demon.co.uk (Stephen Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Will my Computer Blow Up?
Reply-To: Stephen@zmemw16.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 15:56:34 +0000

In article <2uf0ab$11t@aurora.engr.LaTech.edu> ramos@engr.latech.edu (Alex Ramos) writes:
> Andrew Appel (aappel@panix.com), quoted out of context, wrote:
> > In <1994Jun24.094736.579@duquesne.ie> asmall2@duquesne.ie (Alastair J. Small) writes:
> > >Apologies if this has nothing to do with Linux, but I'm concerned that my
> > >computer is about to blow up! Joking aside though, yesterday I noticed that
> > >whenever I was doing anything that accessed the disk (IDE 540Meg with >1024
> > >cylinders) FM 104 here in Dublin started crackling on the radio which is about
> > >6 ft from the computer!
> 
> > Move your radio or turn it off. 
> 
> Get a CD player.
> 
> Seriously, for as long I've used computers they've always interfered
> with FM.
> 
> --
> Alex Ramos (ramos@engr.latech.edu) * http://info.latech.edu/~ramos/
> Louisiana Tech University, BSEE/Sr * These opinions are probably mine

There used to a program for a PDP something to play specific
notes on a nearby radio ( valve in those days)(glass things with pins)

They also had a number of music programs.

Stephen Parkinson

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From: maram@pogo.den.mmc.com (Venkat R Maram)
Subject: Help: cd-rom with philips LMS-206
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 17:30:14 GMT

Hi:     
        I have installed the Linux on my Gateway-2000/486 from the 
        hard drive because I had no luck in the installation to 
        recognize my CD-ROM. I have a Philips/LMS-206 which I think
        is at address 0x300 and IRQ 11. I looked through the doc.
        for help. It clearly mentions that the drivers are not yet
        available for both LMS 205&206. 

        Is there a way around it, any body out there knows where I
        can look.

        Thanks for all the help.
Regards,

Forward the answers to sloke@astro.ge.com.

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