Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #309
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Date:     Sat, 25 Jun 94 07:13:06 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #309, Volume #2                Sat, 25 Jun 94 07:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  LanPacer Network driver... (Thunder God)
  Is there an Linux & OS/2 FAQ or HOWTO (Robert Lee)
  Orchid Kelvin64: Just what is it? (Jagath Samarabandu)
  Re: Infomagic (J. Baker)
  RAWRITE from serial port to disk? (Alex Ramos)
  Networked Audio... (Ludwig Van.)
  Advice on which large IDE HD to buy .... (Divya A. Sundaram)
  Re: Looking for GNU-SQL (GSQL) for Onyx (Paul Kent)
  Do I need Motif to install Mosaic? (Ulrich Cyrus)
  Re: WARNING -- Linux kernel 1.1.19 (Alan Osborne)
  Re: Good statistics program needed.. hints? (Harvey J. Stein)
  Re: Sort of solved: iBCS2 does not insmod (Harald Milz)
  Re: Two IDE drives (root@amber.ba.md.us)
  Re: Memory Problems with Linux (Keith Sheffield)
  Just a test (Yan Zhuang)
  Re: What other notebooks does Linux run on well? (Sebastian W. Bunka)
  Re: Cleaning tape drive heads (Steven Eric Rubin)
  Re: WWW browsers for Net-3 needed (Alan Cox)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: root@thunder.indstate.edu (Thunder God)
Subject: LanPacer Network driver...
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:36:21 GMT

Howdy!

  I'm a system administrator at Indiana State Univeristy and recently I've
been asked to help setup a unix lab in one of our computer labs here at
ISU...  This would do a great deal toward furthering the cause of Unix on
campus since Unix is not supported very much at all at ISU.

  My problem is I've not much to work with, these computers only have 120MB
hard drives and they want to keep the DOS stuff they have on them on them...
that doesn't leave me with much, however they do have an old Sys V unix
server that they don't use and I figure I can setup a UMSDOS file system
deal on the PC's with just enough to get the network going and fire up an
NFS connection to the old server which can feed the computers the rest of
what they need... slow but at least workable...

  So far the main problem is that these PC's are AT&T computers using AT&T's
LanPacer network card, which doesn't seem to be supported by Linux, and I
cannot find a driver for these... I am hopeing someone out there has already
encountered one of these cards and can instruct me where to find a driver or
perhaps how I can go about modifying an existing driver to support the
cards.  I should be able to provide whatever information anyone needs to
help me with this.  As near as I can tell this is my only remaining
problem... If I can get this lab setup, ISU will have at least partially a
unix lab outside of the CS dept which I hope will raise the opinion of Unix
in the eyes of those controlling the money around here...

  Please post directly back to me at root@thunder.indstate.edu... I don't
have much time to read the usenet news and I need help as quickly as
possible...

  BTW, I currently am maintaing some 3 Linux boxes and helping to maintain
another 3... From what I have seen, although Linux is somewhat buggy at
times and it's a never-ending battle to keep it from dragging itself to the
edge of the desk and throwing itself off, I've come to prefer it over the
more commercial products we have here at ISU (Novell's Unixware, Sun's,
etc), perhaps because it's just more fun to play with!

  Keep up the good work!  Later...

                                                        - Steve Baker

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------///---
 Steve Baker  --  System Administrator, Indiana State University       ///
   -- root@thunder.indstate.edu   >> Author of SSH! <<             \\\///AMIGA
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From: rlee@netcom.com (Robert Lee)
Subject: Is there an Linux & OS/2 FAQ or HOWTO
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 18:29:25 GMT

I was wondering is there any info on installing OS/2
and Linux on the same machine. I have heard that there
are numerous pitfalls to avoid.

Thanks,
Robert


+-------------------------+
+ rlee@netcom.com         +
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
From: bandu@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jagath Samarabandu)
Subject: Orchid Kelvin64: Just what is it?
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 04:47:09 GMT

While browsing for video card in the store, I saw a Orchid kelvin 64 for
$219. I just could not find such a beast in the video cards survey. Does anybody
know what the chipset is? The Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 was in the survey and seem
to be based on S3 80[1,5] and was $159 in the store. 

The additional $50 must account for something (hopefully) and I'd really want
to run Linux+XFree86 on the machine.

All bits of info  are welcome.
Bandu 

PS: I do read these two newsgroups. So email or post. For my part, I promise to
run xbench and add the results to the video survey.

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From: jbaker@stimpy.aramco.com (J. Baker)
Subject: Re: Infomagic
Date: 24 Jun 1994 22:40:08 -0500

Jon Saken (saken@stsci.edu) wrote:

: Sorry if this an FAQ question, but I can't find one for this group.
: I'm interested in installing Linux on a 486.  Could someone post or
: e-mail the address and phone number for Infomagic, and any other
: company selling Linux packages?  Thanks.

InfoMagic
Voice phone
(800) 800-6613
(609) 683-5501
Fax
(609) 683-5502
email
info@infomagic.com


Hope this helps,
        J. Baker
        (jbaker@aramco.com)

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From: Alex Ramos <ramos@engr.latech.edu>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: RAWRITE from serial port to disk?
Date: 23 Jun 1994 17:51:04 GMT


Has anyone written a DOS utility to do a raw data dump from the serial
port onto a hard-drive partition?

(anyone familiar with RAWRITE.EXE should know what I'm talking about.
 I just want it to take its input from the serial line, not a file)

Thanks,

--
Alex Ramos (ramos@engr.latech.edu) * http://info.latech.edu/~ramos/
Louisiana Tech University, BSEE/Sr * These opinions are probably mine


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From: lruppert@iguana.syr.EDU (Ludwig Van.)
Subject: Networked Audio...
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:03:03 GMT


I've built NetAudio, and it compiled cleanly, but it won't let me
record.  Has anyone been able to compile it (with the auvoxware driver
of course) so that it will record?  My Sparcstation at work handles
recording fine, so I suspect that it may be a glitch in the voxware
support.

I'd like to see DEC's AudioFile running on my machine, but rumour has
it that it only compiles for the Sun target, and even then, it won't
record.  Is that true?  Is anyone working on the recording part?

-Lou Ruppert
(who is eager to write a snazzier version of something like Netaudio's
auphone, but cannot until his machine will listen to his SbPro.)
-- 
"Until you stalk and overrun, you can't devour anyone."   -Hobbes
Lou Ruppert                     lruppert@mailbox.syr.edu
My opinions are my own.  My attention span isn't long enough for

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From: sundaram@rtsg.mot.com (Divya A. Sundaram)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Advice on which large IDE HD to buy ....
Date: 24 Jun 1994 17:16:03 GMT


Hi all,

I had heard regarding the problems with using large IDE HDs (esp.
ones with >1024 cylinders) when running linux. 

Could someone please inform me of the exact nature of this problem and also
be kind enough to enlighten me if there is a workaround or solution?

I am hoping to buy one of those really large IDE drive (>500MB) and wanted
to ensure that it will be usable by Linux. What problems would I encounter
if I were to install two large IDE HDs in my machine?

Any help would be appreciated. 

Divya

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From: kent@unx.sas.com (Paul Kent)
Subject: Re: Looking for GNU-SQL (GSQL) for Onyx
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:52:42 GMT

In <2uetll$k83@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> rhh@tachy.uah.ualberta.ca (Roy Hann) writes:

>bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:
>: 
>: I think part of it is also the supposedly "English-like" nature of the
>: language (which mysteriously vanishes when you go to write real-world queries
>: that require all sorts of garbage to work around SQL braindamage :-)
>
>I always wondered about that.  Would you hire people who claim to be
>able to analyse and automate complex bet-your-business systems who
>also claim not to be able to grasp the limited complexity of, say,
>QUEL--so they have to have the crutch of an "English-like" language?  
>
>Since SQL violates not only the relational model, but also 
>every principle of good language design that has been articulated in
>the last 20 years, it sure isn't "easy to learn," for all its pretense
>to be "English-like."  So it is a disaster on that account too.
>

so, why don't you say what you really think :-)

you are free to come up with something else... in fact a while
ago there was a fellow on comp.databases.??? who was organising
an anti-sql sig. i dunno what became of that effort.

you are rehashing old arguments against sql. many of the one-sided
language constructs have been fixed in SQL-2 (altho vendors are slow
to adopt, the existing customers say performance, performance and 
performance are the top threee wishes).

the one thing SQL really does have going for it is that it is the
lingua franca of DBMS speak. emerging efforts like ODBC and SAG-CLI
have the promise of allowing your client application to speak to my
database server with no translation middleware -- something not really
in the cards for all those QUEL based databases out there.


but this is all by the by. if you want to bash SQL, do it in
comp.databases. me - i like SQL -- implementing it is how i earn my
living.
--

Paul Kent (Base SAS R&D)              " nothing ventured, nothing disclaimed "
kent@unx.sas.com              SAS Institute Inc, SAS Campus Dr, Cary NC 27513.

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From: cyrus@virusdd.GUN.de (Ulrich Cyrus)
Subject: Do I need Motif to install Mosaic?
Date: 23 Jun 1994 22:44:13 -0100

I really would like to install Mosaic on my Slackware 1.2.0 
But I have learned, that Mosaic only runs with Motif installed!

Is that true?

regards, Ulrich
-- 
===============================================================================
Ulrich Cyrus                                               cyrus@virusdd.GUN.de
Fliederstr. 169,  47055 Duisburg, Germany       hg926cy@unidui.uni-duisuburg.de
/earth is 98% full - please delete any unused to free up space!

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From: alan@osborne.demon.co.uk (Alan Osborne)
Subject: Re: WARNING -- Linux kernel 1.1.19
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:02:56 +0000

Jonathan E Brickman (brickman@world.std.com) wrote:
: WARNING -- when I did a 'make zdisk' for LInux kernel 1.1.19, then booted
: off the disk, it KILLED MY LINUX PARTITION!!!!!  On bootup from the floppy and

I have not had this problem with 1.1.19.  Do not panic.

--
Alan


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Subject: Re: Good statistics program needed.. hints?
From: hjstein@sunset.huji.ac.il (Harvey J. Stein)
Date: 22 Jun 94 19:48:19

In article <13441@obelix.icce.rug.nl> karel@icce.rug.nl (Karel Kubat)
writes:

   Just wondering. All I ever use my DOS partition for, is to run
   SPSS.. I successfully migrated all other stuff to my happy Linux
   system. I'd _really_ like to dump DOS alltogether, but I'm looking
   for an SPSS replacement. Such a stat program would have to be able
   to do manova's, time series operations (filtering), and of course
   basic statistics. It wouldn't need to be SPSS itself (I know that
   there's a commercial version) but rather a good free domain
   program.

Try out xlispstat.  It's a stat package embedded in xlisp.  It's very
good, but I don't know if it covers what you need.  If you want to
know what it does, get the book "LISP-STAT - An Object-Oriented
Environment for Statistical Computing and Dynamic Graphics" by Luke
Tierney, Wiley Series in Probability and Mathematical Statistics:
Applied Probability and Statistics Section.  If you do look into it,
I'd like to hear what you think and how it compares to SPSS - I
haven't used SPSS myself.

Good luck,

--
Harvey J. Stein
Berger Financial Research

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From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Sort of solved: iBCS2 does not insmod
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:15:32 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Mike Jagdis (jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: > * In message <CrpGL8.r6@seneca.ix.de>, Harald Milz said:

: > HM> : > I tried to play around with the iBCS2 emulator. As mentioned in the
: > HM> : > README, I'd expect to flawlessly run iBCS2 with 1.1.15 or later.
: > HM> After gasping around a little, I found a real *ugly* hack
: > HM> which makes ibcs-940609.tar.gz work with 1.1.19.

: > HM> Any comment from those who run iBCS2?

: > Get the latest ibcs-940621.tar.gz. There is a reason it is alpha :-).

Despite the claims in the README, I had to unpack it in the /usr/src/linux
directory to get it compiled cleanly. Same with 1.1.22 and ibcs-940623. 
Strange. 

-- 
Harald Milz                             office: hm@ix.de
iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      home:   hm@seneca.ix.de
Opinions are mine, not my employer's -- the answer is Forty-two


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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
From: root@amber.ba.md.us
Subject: Re: Two IDE drives
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 07:23:07 GMT

bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy) writes:

>Hiya:

>I have kind of a cross subject post, so please forgive the dual posting.
>I was able to hook up two IDE segates as master and slave: st 3243a master 
>with linux; st3144a slave with dos/windows. when I boot into linux, the boot
>log records hda1 - the st3243a and hdb1 - the 3144a, but I can't access or
>boot the 3144a. Conversly, if I switch the master/slave setup and run fdisk
>under dos on the 3144a, I can see the 3243a as fixed drive 2, but can't get
>to it. What am I missing here? Something basic, I'm sure. Booth drives work
>fine alone or as the master drive. Any suggestions? I'm almost tempted to
>call a local pc place and ask them to install the second drive for me, but
>I'd really rather so it myself. Any advice/help/suggestions would be more
>than welcome. TIA.

I don't see anything about having set the jumpers on both drives to
tell them each if they are master or slave and in case of the former,
whether there is a slave. I have a 3144a as /dev/hdb, post me if I can
help with the required settings.

-- 
John H. Mountcastle      -+-      Linux the choice of a GNU generation
postmaster@amber.ba.md.us

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From: sheff@indigoa.cr.usgs.gov (Keith Sheffield)
Subject: Re: Memory Problems with Linux
Reply-To: sheff@sg2.cr.usgs.gov
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 17:21:28 GMT

>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 1994 15:01:43 GMT, gbrownin@sun1.iusb.indiana.edu (ninworbg) said:
> Nntp-Posting-Host: sun1.iusb.indiana.edu


> I have Linux up and running on a 486 DX 33 with 20 megs of Ram,
> 3c503 ethernet card, 2 Quantum 100+ meg drives, AMI bios with
> A20 Fast Gate option.  I have the 1.1.8 linux kernel.

> The problem is that when memory gets used up it doesnt seem to
> get released.  The kernel reports a warning the bdflush is not
> running.  I have contacted LSL before about this and they could
> only suggest rebuilding the kernel.  I have rebuilt the kernel
> many times and still doesnt work.  My memory keeps getting
> 'gobbled' up till nothing is left.  What can I do about this?

From the linux faq:

Question 6.4.  Free memory as reported by free keeps shrinking.

The `free' figure printed by free doesn't include memory used as a disk
buffer cache - shown in the `buffers' column.  If you want to know how
much memory is really free add the `buffers' amount to `free'.

The disk buffer cache tends to grow soon after starting Linux up, as you
load more programs and use more files and the contents get cached.  It
will stabilise after a while.



> Thanks

> Gary R. Browning, Senior Consultant
> Indiana University South Bend Computing Services




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________________________________________________________________________________
                
Keith W. Sheffield   Programmer, Sofware Development      Hughes STX Corporation
EROS Data Center     Mundt Federal Building               Sioux Falls, SD  57198
att: 605-594-6838    email:sheff@edcserver1.cr.usgs.gov   fax: 605-594-6589

Opinions expressed are the author's and do not necessarily represent offical
policy of the NMD, USGS, DOI, or Federal Government.
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From: yzhuang@iris.usc.edu (Yan Zhuang)
Subject: Just a test
Date: 23 Jun 1994 11:41:55 -0700

jjflaksjflkjaslkdjf
just  a test, please ignore.



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From: seb@i102pc1.vu-wien.ac.at (Sebastian W. Bunka)
Subject: Re: What other notebooks does Linux run on well?
Date: 22 Jun 1994 07:03:36 GMT
Reply-To: Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at

Robert Wolf (acc-corp@tigger.jvnc.net) wrote:
: In Article <GTAYLOR.94Jun13160704@god.ext.tufts.edu>,
: gtaylor@god.ext.tufts.edu (Grant Taylor) wrote:
: >A friend of mine is interested in getting Linux up on a notebook.
: >I've read the Hardware-HOWTO, and its notebook section is kind of
: >sketchy, and none of them looks like the sort he wants to buy.

We run Slackware 1.0 on an OLIVETTI Philos 33 w/ mono display.
Works fine with all programs incl. XFree86 with standard VGA.
Even the built-in trackball works (PS2-like mouse).
SWB
--
                      [ Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at ]
                        phone:                   FAX:
                +43-1-71155260          +43-1-7149110
Location: earth, europe, austria, vienna  Inst. of Bacteriology  Vet.Univ.

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From: ser@anarky.tch.org (Steven Eric Rubin)
Subject: Re: Cleaning tape drive heads
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 10:28:15 GMT

In article <2tk4nr$hrb@linus.mitre.org>, Van Zandt <jrv@truth.mitre.org> wrote:
>rexx@netcom.com (Rick Narron) writes:
>
>The book for my Colorado Memories Jumbo 250 tells me to use _foam type_
>swabs to clean the head on the drive.  Q-tips, like all the others I can
>find around here, use cotton.  Any idea where foam ones can be had?
>Are cotton ones okay?
>

I assume the reason they say not to use the cottom type swabs is because
they can leave cotton "hair" on the head.  This isnt much of a problem
on audio heads, but on VCR heads (and I suppose tape heads) this is much
more of a problem.  I get the foam type q-tips (acually its a cottom
q-tip with a foam thing over it) at Radio Slack, and also at the local
electronics store.  

-- 
Steve Rubin                                               ser@anarky.tch.org
KARA-KLIV-KRTY/KSFO/KBAY-KKSJ                             ser@netcom.com        

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From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: WWW browsers for Net-3 needed
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:35:21 GMT

In article <FRED.94Jun21103210@thrush.Stanford.EDU> fred@thrush.Stanford.EDU (Fred Vachss) writes:
>I just updated my kernel to 1.1.20 and find that neither
>lynx or Mosaic work anymore.  I get failure to connect message
Its a one off bug in 1.1.20 - watch for 1.1.22 and avoid 1.1.21 
[cringe]

Alan


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