Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #302
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Date:     Thu, 23 Jun 94 21:13:07 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #302, Volume #2                Thu, 23 Jun 94 21:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: VP/ix for Linux? (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: unix version of dos prog XCOPY? (H.J. Lu)
  audio recording (Lawrence Compton)
  Re: FTP BUG FIXED ?? (Bryan Vold)
  Re: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware) (Alan Cox)
  Re: Memory Problems with Linux (Alan Cox)
  Sendmail problems in replying (Karsten Johansson)
  Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy (Chris Bitmead)
  DIP-3.3.7c (Uri Blumenthal)
  XT disk controller still supported? (Paul Fox)
  Re: How to split large tar file to fit on (Temporaerer Mitarbeiter IR)
  Re: Xircom Ethernet/parallel port driver? (Eckard Kopatzki)
  Re: UNIVERSAL CDROM - STOP ADVERTISING ! (Jim Michael)
  Re: Slackware and X11, what gives? (Ken Sorensen)
  Re: Slackware and X11, what gives? (Ken Sorensen)
  ATI GUP ISA or VLB cards for sale (Yi Jin)
  Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy (Joonwoo Nam)
  Re: UNIVERSAL CDROM - STOP ADVERTISING ! (Dale J. Chatham)
  Re: Looking for GNU-SQL (GSQL) for Onyx (Roy Hann)
  TLI for Linux (Jose Castejon-Amenedo)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: VP/ix for Linux?
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:53:59 GMT

dmw@prism1.prism1.com (David Wright) writes:

>>>>>> "MAHK" == Mark A Horton KA4YBR <mah@ka4ybr.com> writes:

>  MAHK>                EEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKK!!!!

>  MAHK> SCO doesn't even recommend this thing anymore!!!   Use dosemu!

>       That is not true. We have used VP/IX for ages, since the Xenix days,
>and the versions of VP/IX that have been available for the last couple of years
>are pretty nice. They seem to chew up CPU time like 1/10th as much as the older
>versions, and for the most part provide a FAR better DOS environment than
>dosemu. Of course, VP/IX emulates a '286, so you can't run Windows in enhanced
>mode, or use any software that requires 386 memory managers. But it works
>great for character-based software on Wyse-60 terminals.

True, but even VP/IX is obsolete compared to Locus MERGE.  Merge is a dream.
I have used all three: VP/ix, Merge, and DOS-EMU.  Merge is just about
the best MS-"DOS" emulation/runing environment I have ever seen.

>       There are many features in VP/IX that are extremely usefull that
>dosemu just doesn't have (at least the last time I looked), and that I
>wouldn't want to have to do without (if I had to use VP/IX or dosemu
>personally, which I don't).

I have to agree.  If I had the features of VP/ix *or* Merge, I could
totally dump the MS-"DOS" partition at home.

-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | mark@taylor.infi.net           |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: unix version of dos prog XCOPY?
Date: 22 Jun 1994 20:43:08 GMT

In article <VGIAMBAL.94Jun22074200@emmy.nmsu.edu>, vgiambal@nmsu.edu (Vince Giambalvo) writes:
|> >   I presume that you are asking this because you want to copy a
|> >   directory tree with all the subdirectories and have the program create
|> >   the directories if they do not exist. I always do this with cpio:
|>         cd sourcedir
|>         find . -depth -print | cpio -pvdum targetdir
|> >   Works good, hope this helps
|> Yikes! Glad this works for you, but most of us would never have
|> thought of anything like this. How about
|>          cp -R sourcedir targetdir
|> 

Here is mine:

cp -a s1 s2 s3 s4 s6 .... t

That only works with GNU cp.

H.J.

|> Infact cp can to everything that xcopy does, I think. I never used
|> xcopy, since my dos experience ended with version 3.3.
|>                    Vince
|> 

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From: lhcompt@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Lawrence Compton)
Subject: audio recording
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 16:57:53 GMT

Does anyone know of a program for recording audio that
allows you to specify the sampling rate and the sample
resolution (8-bit vs. 16-bit)?? A program that allows
you to set the recording parameters would be equally
useful. Please let me know. Thanks!!

                                        Larry




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From: btv@ldl.HealthPartners.COM (Bryan Vold)
Subject: Re: FTP BUG FIXED ??
Date: 23 Jun 1994 11:56:46 -0500

In article <2uaomv$s4e@sun.cais.com>, Tim Bass <bass@cais.cais.com> wrote:
>Just go my Linux box out and up on the net.  When
>I FTP big files the kernal crashes.  I heard that
>there was a new kernal release that fixes it.
>
>Any comments or clues?
>
>Thanks in advance   

We experienced the same problem ftp'ing a 16Mb file.  Linux kernel 1.1.21,
latest Slackware.
-btv

-- 
btv@ldl.healthpartners.com               "The relentless pursuit of perfection"
Linux -- The Choice of a GNU Generation  "Make it so, Number One." 

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From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:28:48 GMT

In article <wb8fozCru12w.AxJ@netcom.com> wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher) writes:
>Alan Cox (iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr) wrote:
>SO fix it!
>If your host is that racist, confine it to its segregated world,
>until it can be house...err RFC-broken.
Nothing says that usenet must be working with RFC822 addressing. Back in the
old days it was a mixture of DARPA, UUCP and the odd X.29 address. If it _was_
my host I'd have fixed it.

Alan


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From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Memory Problems with Linux
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:30:29 GMT

In article <2ub503$krs@gap.cco.caltech.edu> iotov@cco.caltech.edu (Mihail S. Iotov) writes:
>  I have observed the same behaviour - pctcp freezes, NCSA is OK. It only
>happens at fast screen updates, eg. ps aux. This might be a bug in pctcp,
>couldn't it ?
>
in pctcp config set

tcp window 8192

Alan




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From: ksaj@csis.pcscav.com (Karsten Johansson)
Subject: Sendmail problems in replying
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 17:50:38 GMT

I have a really weird problem.  Sendmail seems to be working fine for me,
and I can post news and write mail without a hitch.  But, if I try to
_reply_ to a message, or follow up on an already existing piece of news, it
is not sent.

The mail problem is consistent using mail, elm, or pine.  The news problem,
likewise, with the various news readers I have.  So I suspect that the
problem is in sendmail.

Whenever this problem occurs, this message (well, a similar message) is 
generated in /usr/spool/smail/log/logfile:

06/22/94 13:21:31: [m0qGVzO-0007skC] user@host.domain.org ... deferred:
(ERR_170) router uucp_neighbors: read error in output from /usr/bin/uuname'

BTW:  uuname seems to be working properly.  If I type /usr/bin/uuname, I get
the reply:  uunorth.  Which is exactly what I should be seeing, right?
-- 
There are those who are born UNIX,   |   Karsten Johansson, PC Scavenger
those who are made UNIX,             |   ksaj@csis.pcscav.com
and those who become UNIX            |
for the kingdom of heaven's sake.    |   Matthew 19:12

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From: chrisb@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Chris Bitmead)
Subject: Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy
Date: 23 Jun 1994 11:08:45 +1000

pfennem@hzsbe04.ns-nl.att.com (P Fennema HV018 x4174) writes:

>Hello,

>I know this sounds silly, but what is an efficient method to split
>a large (gzipped) tar file into pieces which fit on a 1.44 MB floppy?
>I know the concatenating is easy with 'cat', but splitting is a little
>harder. I can do it with split, but this works with line numbers and 
>I'd like to split exactly at the 1.44Mbyte limit of the floppy.

I use this disksplit shell script which generates split files called x.0,
x.1, x.2 etc. You can then join them back together using cat x.0 x.1 x.2 >x


PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH
BS=1440000

for i
do
        SIZE=`ls -l $i | awk '{ print $4}'`
        COUNT=0
        while [ $SIZE -gt 0 ]
        do
                dd bs=$BS count=1 skip=$COUNT if=$i of=$i.$COUNT
                COUNT=`expr $COUNT + 1`
                SIZE=`expr $SIZE - $BS`
        done
done

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From: uri@valhalla.watson.ibm.com (Uri Blumenthal)
Subject: DIP-3.3.7c
Date: 23 Jun 1994 01:54:05 GMT
Reply-To: uri@watson.ibm.com

OK, an interim release of DIP-3.3.7-uri is out. It fixes
a few [minor?] bugs, adds a couple of features, namely
S/Key for those who are a bit hesitant to type their
password in clear, and something else - I forgot
what... Ypu'll find it all in the source, plus
maybe README* files...

Enjoy.
--
Regards,
Uri.            uri@watson.ibm.com     N2RIU
============
<Disclaimer>

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From: pgf@cayman.com (Paul Fox)
Subject: XT disk controller still supported?
Date: 23 Jun 1994 15:52:39 GMT


hi -- is the XT-style disk controller interface still supported in 
the latest kernels?  can anyone vouch that it works?

i need to get a bigger disk.  currently i have an MFM AT-controller.
if i get an IDE disk (i have a controller), i need to quit using my
MFM controller, so i lose the use of my current disks unless i can move
them to an XT controller.

the alternative is of course to be forced to spring for scsi controller
and disk...

--
=====================
    paul fox, pgf@cayman.com (cayman systems inc. in heavenly woburn, ma)
        home: pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma)


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From: tempir3@gizmo.Germany.Sun.COM (Temporaerer Mitarbeiter IR)
Subject: Re: How to split large tar file to fit on
Date: 23 Jun 1994 15:48:21 GMT
Reply-To: tempir3@gizmo.Germany.Sun.COM

hi,

 how about cpio ?

 michael strerath



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From: root@stevie.isar.muc.de (Eckard Kopatzki)
Subject: Re: Xircom Ethernet/parallel port driver?
Date: 22 Jun 1994 21:25:27 GMT

In article <CrrrAB.FM9@inmet.camb.inmet.com>, chuck@hous.inmet.com (Chuck Meyer) writes:
> Is there an ethernet driver available for the Xircom (model PE3-10B2) pocket
> ethernet adapter that connects to a PC parallel port? If not, is anyone
> working on one?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

To my knowledge, Xircom products are not and will not be supported because of
their NDA policy concerning technical information about their products.

-- 
Eckard Kopatzki           Internet eko@isar.muc.de
Therese-Giehse-Allee 53     CompuServe 100024,2175
D-81739 Muenchen, Germany     Voice +49-89-6378103

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From: genepool@netcom.com (Jim Michael)
Subject: Re: UNIVERSAL CDROM - STOP ADVERTISING !
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 16:20:18 GMT

: In defense of Universal I believe they posted articles in response to 
: questions about availability of certain Linux CD's. They were merely letting 
: those who asked know that they had them. I don't think they overstepped 
: their bounds here at all.

: Beverly J. Brown
: bjb@shore.net
: beverly@datacube.com

They overstepped their bounds when they posted instead of emailing the
person requesting information. Are there not certain usenet classifications
(.biz??) in which these people could post this information? If so perhaps
they should start biz.linux.cd.reseller.

Jim

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From: ksore@atr-14 (Ken Sorensen)
Subject: Re: Slackware and X11, what gives?
Date: 17 Jun 1994 15:48:42 GMT

Allen R Sparks (fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu) wrote:
: >>>>> "K" == Ken Sorensen <ksore@atr-14> writes:

:     K> Is this all done to support some strange notions about the file
:     K> system standardization? Also, if I'm missing some important
:     K> points about the installation, then let me know.

: Perhaps you need to reconfigure your partitions.  One of the
: disadvantages of partitioning a disk is less flexibility.  I see no
: reason to partition a disk, unless
:    1. there are two different operating/file systems for each
:       partition,
:    2. maybe placing user files in a separate partition (/home).

: So I guess we can switch your question around.  Did you configure your
: disk that way to support some strange notions about file systems?

Well, as to my notions about files systems, there are some valid
reasons for partitioning. I set up 4 partitions:

1)  /
2)  /tmp
3)  /usr
4)  /home

Here are the reasons:

1)  Root (/) never changes (except when updating a kernel or such)
    but you shouldn't normally be writting to it. So, in that respect
    it should be the most stable system, because in the case of any
    problems with the disk you must have a root partition. There are
    a number of other reasons (see section 3 of the Linux FSSTD document).

2)  The /tmp directory gets its own partition so that a program that
    overruns /tmp space doesn't fill up a user partition. (The argument
    can be posed the other way, saying that "What if the program only
    needs a little more /tmp space than you allowed?", so you can
    argue both ways).

3)  The /usr partition is for sharable executables, now granted I don't
    have a network set up at home, but I administer a network of Sun's
    here at work, and it helps to have things partitioned in such a way
    that exporting items in this area through NFS are strait forward.

I could go back to using a single partition for *everything* but, I choose
not to. And besides, what happens if you have several disks, then you
have no choice but to separate your file system.

Anyway, I encourage you toread the Linux File System Standards document.
It has some interesting things to say about the organization of the Linux
(and in general Unix) file system.

Ken

--
Kenneth Sorensen                    |  ksore@sed.hac.com
====================================+==================================
Hughes Aircraft Company             |  Phone: (714) 732-9816
P.O. Box 3310                       |  Fax:   (714) 732-1953
Fullerton, California, US           +----------------------------------
92634-3310, Mail Station: 618/B223  |  #include <std-disclaimer.h>

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From: ksore@atr-14 (Ken Sorensen)
Subject: Re: Slackware and X11, what gives?
Date: 17 Jun 1994 15:54:09 GMT

Jake Colman (jcolman@lehman.com) wrote:
: I also installed X11 via Slackware and noticed the wierd symbolic links.  It would
: seem, however, that since the /var/X11/bin/X is only a symbolic link to 
: /usr/X11/bin/XF86_<server> the disk space that is actually used would be off of
: the /usr tree, no?  Ans isn;t this what you wanted?

Yes, it did setup /var/X11/bin/X as a symbolic, but the /var/X11/lib/* is
not a symbolic link, and since my root partition is 8MB, it get's filled
before X11 is done install. That means I have to cancel the install, clean
up the mess, get rid of all the silly symbolics and put real directories
into /usr/X11/lib/* and the I can install all of the umpteen megabytes of
X. :-(

: ...Jake



--
Kenneth Sorensen                    |  ksore@sed.hac.com
====================================+==================================
Hughes Aircraft Company             |  Phone: (714) 732-9816
P.O. Box 3310                       |  Fax:   (714) 732-1953
Fullerton, California, US           +----------------------------------
92634-3310, Mail Station: 618/B223  |  #include <std-disclaimer.h>

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From: Yi.Jin@launchpad.unc.edu (Yi Jin)
Crossposted-To: misc.test,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: ATI GUP ISA or VLB cards for sale
Date: 22 Jun 1994 13:15:44 GMT


I have a few ATI Graphics Ultra Pro ISA or VLB, 2MB VRAM, for sale.
They are new, never used. Genuine ATI cards, not OEMs. Includes 
manuals and software, in original package.

The ISA cards come with a mouse (the GUP ISA cards also have a
mouse port). VLB version doesn't.

They support 1280x1024x256,1024x768x65K,800x600x16M, etc.
The GUP video cards are supported by Windows, OS/2, Linux, etc.

Price:
ISA: $225 plus $10 shipping and COD in US. I will beat any new GUP price.
VLB: $250 plus $10 shipping and COD.

Yi


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From: nam@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Joonwoo Nam)
Subject: Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy
Date: 23 Jun 1994 02:26:12 GMT

P Fennema HV018 x4174 (pfennem@hzsbe04.ns-nl.att.com) wrote:
: Hello,

: I know this sounds silly, but what is an efficient method to split
: a large (gzipped) tar file into pieces which fit on a 1.44 MB floppy?

  Could this solve your problem ?
  % tar cvfM /dev/fd0 foobar.baz

--
========================================================================
Joonwoo Nam                                     nam@nazgul.ecs.umass.edu
Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering    office: 413-545-4762
University of Massachusetts at Amherst          fax   : 413-545-4611
========================================================================


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From: dchatham@afit.af.mil (Dale J. Chatham)
Subject: Re: UNIVERSAL CDROM - STOP ADVERTISING !
Date: 22 Jun 1994 14:29:14 -0500

In article GHp@netcom.com, genepool@netcom.com (Jim Michael) writes:
>: In defense of Universal I believe they posted articles in response to 
>: questions about availability of certain Linux CD's. They were merely letting 
>: those who asked know that they had them. I don't think they overstepped 
>: their bounds here at all.
>
>: Beverly J. Brown
>: bjb@shore.net
>: beverly@datacube.com
>
>They overstepped their bounds when they posted instead of emailing the
>person requesting information. Are there not certain usenet classifications
>(.biz??) in which these people could post this information? If so perhaps
>they should start biz.linux.cd.reseller.
>
>Jim

I disagree, Jim.  What more appropriate place to discuss a Linux CD-ROM than a
Linux newsgroup?  I'm sorry I missed it, mine are about a year out of date.



           Dale



===============================================================================
Dale J. Chatham
Air Force Institute of Technology
AFIT/LSS
===============================================================================



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From: rhh@tachy.uah.ualberta.ca (Roy Hann)
Subject: Re: Looking for GNU-SQL (GSQL) for Onyx
Date: 24 Jun 1994 00:10:08 GMT

bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:
: In article <2ucl0s$8hh@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>, rhh@tachy.uah.ualberta.ca (Roy Hann) says:
: | Amen to that!  SQL is seriously botched.  How it got to be the 
: | industry standard defies comprehension.  QUEL has its problems, God
: +------------->8
: 
: Trivially:  IBM invented it, so everyone followed the (then) leader.

Superficially that explanation has some appeal, but IBM has invented
a lot of things which did not come to dominate the world.  And not
even COBOL displaced all other languages the way SQL has displaced
the alternatives.  Also, was IBM _ever_ the leader in relational
databases?  OK, Ed Codd did some theoretical work on the relational 
model when he was with them, but the UCB Ingres project got going 
before IBM's System R.

No, I want a better explanation :-)

========================================================================

Roy Hann
Senior Analyst, Information Systems        rhh@tachy.uah.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta Hospitals            (MIME-capable mail agent)
WMC 2C2.21, 8440-112th Street,     
Edmonton, Alberta                          Tel: (403)492-4367
T6G 0N4                                    FAX: (403)492-3090
Canada

PLEASE: No shipments by courier from outside Canada; use regular mail.
========================================================================

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From: vanadis@cs.dal.ca (Jose Castejon-Amenedo)
Subject: TLI for Linux
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:37:54 GMT


        Is there a public-domain implementation of the TLI library for
Linux?


JCA
vanadis@cs.dal.ca



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