Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #297
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Date:     Wed, 22 Jun 94 11:13:09 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #297, Volume #2                Wed, 22 Jun 94 11:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Bootable partition? (Bill McCarthy)
  Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ? (Ted Chan)
  Re: Linux.... On a Sparc? (Leonard N. Zubkoff)
  Re: FOLLOWUP: RARP under Linux (Joey Gibson)
  Re: Video Card Reviews (Hui-Hui Hu)
  Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows (HUTCHINSON jonathan)
  can't open sessions witn xdm (Jose I. Trapiella)
  Re: PC-Speaker and Linux?? (Norbert Kuemin)
  Number of colors under X-window ? (VEKEMANS Nicolas)
  Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows (Jake Buchholz)
  Removable HD Problem.. (Thomas Flaschentr.)
  Good statistics program needed.. hints? (Karel Kubat)
  Re: Number of colors under X-window ? (Brandon S. Allbery)
  Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy (Andreas Schwab)
  Re: future of Unixware (Tim Sailer)
  Looking for GNU-SQL (GSQL) for Onyx (David C. Brown)
  Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy (Jonathan A Buzzard)
  Re: future of Unixware (Rick Richardson)
  Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows (Michael K. Johnson)

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From: bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy)
Subject: Bootable partition?
Date: 21 Jun 1994 09:04:09 -0400

Hiya:

I just got rid of my dos partition and now have a total linux pc. I set
up hda1 as swap and hda2 as root. I am currently booting from the hdd,
and I was wondering if I also need to toggle on boot to either partition.

TIA for any help/suggestions.




Bill McCarthy
bmccarth@gulfaero.com

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From: twc@szebra.Saigon.COM (Ted Chan)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,biz.sco.general,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ?
Date: 21 Jun 1994 15:39:00 -0700

Terry Lambert (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote:
: In article <2tl4b0$3e0@rand.org> edhall@nntp.rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
: ] :   5) What kind of system/motherboard are you using
: ] 
: ]     Nice SuperEISA ver.1

: It is (or should be) well known that NiCE EISA motherboards do not
: support bus mastering DMAs in excess of 16M, just like ISA chip sets.

Ahem, NICE makes at least two lines of EISA boards.  One is HiNT based
and the other is SiS based.  The latter board does support bus mastering
DMA in excess of 16M.

As it happens, the SuperEISA Rev 1 board is one of those nice (no pun
intended) SiS EISA chipset based boards that you recommend in your post.
So the problems probably lies elsewhere...

--twc

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
From: Leonard N. Zubkoff <lnz@dandelion.com>
Subject: Re: Linux.... On a Sparc?
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:17:29 GMT

In article <2u5s4j$ch1@uc.msc.edu> alk@et.msc.edu (Anthony L. Kimball) writes:

   I have a sparcstation at home running 4.1.3, and full source,
   but you know, if I do a hack on it, it is wasted effort, since
   I can't share it with anyone else except other sunos source licensees.
   I've been thinking about getting rid of the sparc, and picking up a
   pentium, simply because of Linux, but the loss of muscle would hurt.
   I might be interested in working on an sbus sparc port of Linux,
   say 20 hours/wk or so, if I were convinced that the PPC port was
   not going to be a viable alternative before a sparc port could be
   completed.

Loss of muscle??  My personal Pentium-90 system feels and measures faster than
the SparcStation 10 Model 41 I have at the office.

                Leonard

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Subject: Re: FOLLOWUP: RARP under Linux
From: wjg@Creeper.Atl.GA.US (Joey Gibson)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 02:18:02 GMT

MATTHEW TIPPETT (9208033h@levels.unisa.edu.au) wrote:
: Just following up on my post about using RARP under Linux...

: To date I have recieved no information on how actually use RARP under Linux
: I have received a couple of use BOOTP instead, and a couple of Mail me too
: messages.  But nothing telling me how to use it...

I have just setup rarp to boot my dickless Sun 3/60 from my linux box.
It was quite easy, once I *found* the rarp source.  The location is
sunacm.swan.ac.uk:/pub/misc/Linux/Networking/Programs/System/net032.

The file you need is net-0.32d-net3.tar.gz. The rarp source, along with
some other stuff is in there.

As far as setting it up, I had to add the following line to
/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1: /sbin/rarp -s xhost 8:0:20:0:8e:88

Where the colon-separated nuymber is the ethernet address of my Sun. A
good book to check out is TCP/IP Administration from O'Reilly. If I can
be of any more help, let me know.

Joey


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From: hdesiato@cs.umd.edu (Hui-Hui Hu)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: Re: Video Card Reviews
Date: 21 Jun 1994 09:11:27 -0400

In article <Crq757.26y@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
Carsten Whimster <bcrwhims@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
[..]
>The brand-new ATI graphics Turbo (is that the name?) has up to
>1280x1024x16.7mil resolution, and is supposedly very nice and fast (64
>bit), but I don't imagine that there are drivers out for Linux yet?

There is apparently an ALPHA version of the XF86/Mach64 driver
out. I've heard *rumors* of 180k xstones.

Anyone want to give me an GPT so I can.. er.. benchmark it
some more?

-Hui-Hui Hu
hdesiato@cs.umd.edu


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From: hutch@cs.concordia.ca (HUTCHINSON jonathan)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 16:50:11 GMT

Everyone is talking about Wordperfect for X-Windows, but when I went to the 
site all Icould not find anything for Linux (the closest was for SCO)

Could anybody point me in the right direction please (ie ftp site and the 
directory it is in) 

I would be extrmemly grateful,
Jonathan Hutchinson
hutch@cs.concordia.ca


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Subject: can't open sessions witn xdm
From: jose@proy2.etsiig.uniovi.es  (Jose I. Trapiella)
Date: 21 Jun 94 13:53:56 +0100

Hello,
We have instaled the xdm in our Linux system without big problems.
The problem is that when a user different of root tries to login,
the user and password are recognized but no session is created and
the xdm prompt is redisplayed. 
When root login in, everything is correct.
Could you please help me?

Thanks in advance,

            Jose

(please email me directly)

Jose I. Trapiella                      jose@proy2.etsiig.uniovi.es
Proyectos de Ingenieria
Universidad de Oviedo
Spain

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From: kuemin@srapc101.alcatel.ch (Norbert Kuemin)
Subject: Re: PC-Speaker and Linux??
Date: 21 Jun 1994 07:26:22 GMT
Reply-To: norbert.kuemin@alcatel.ch

Yasuo Ohgaki (yasuo@via.term.none) wrote:
: Rich Pawlish (RXP10@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:
: : Hello Happy Netters!
: :   Quick question: Are there sound-playing programs for Linux that
: : use the PC-Speaker?  Examples from the (ack) dos-world would be
: : ModPlay, Inerita, or some other Amiga-Style Mod player.
: :   Thanks a bunch!  -- Norm
: : **************************************************************************
: : This is a shared account.  Please note the .sig before responding.  Thanks
: : **************************************************************************
: : Norm By Way Of | "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my
: :   Rich Pawlish |   sanity  the most." --Bob


: Yes there is.
: It can play .au .wav and .voc files. Quality is not good
: but better than windows' pc-speaker driver.

: Here is the readme file
Where can i find the sources ?

=======================================+=======================================
+----------V----------+ Eltech. ING HTL|EMAIL: norbert.kuemin@alcatel.ch
| A  L  C  A  T  E  L | Norbert Kuemin |DEC:   PSI%(0228)4795123920::ZAD_KUEMIN
+---------------------+ Alcatel STR    |X.400: c=CH a=arCom p=Alcatel
         S T R          CH-8804 Au/ZH  |       s=Kuemin g=Norbert
=======================================+=======================================

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From: vekemans@aurora.unice.fr (VEKEMANS Nicolas)
Subject: Number of colors under X-window ?
Date: 21 Jun 1994 15:24:12 +0200


 Has anybody tried to use X-window in more than 256 colors ?

  vekemans@taloa.unice.fr


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From: jake@jakesys.sol.net (Jake Buchholz)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 23:23:24 GMT

Cyrill Vatomsky (cyrillv@netcom.com) wrote:
: I do not have this proble, WP starts without a glitch but the screen is
: filled with garbage. How did you go about  those corrupt fonts?

Demo that I had (was a timed one, ran out last week) installed with a few
errors (I suspect the bash incompatibility suggested earlier), but worked
fine, except the "system font" (i.e.  the Row Col Page line at the bottom and
several dialogs, etc.) seemed to be in a japanese font, not corrupted.

I never did get around to figuring out what was wrong though.
-- 
 |       jake@jakesys.sol.net -- Jake Buchholz       | /\  /\    /\    /~\ tm |
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 |  "Angst.  It's not just for breakfast, anymore."  |   \/ \/ \/ \/ \___/ \/ |

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From: ka01@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de (Thomas Flaschentr.)
Subject: Removable HD Problem..
Date: 21 Jun 1994 13:31:23 GMT

HI Linux Users out there...
I have 2 HDs built in my 486 and installed the LILO on the first one 
(the complete linux system is on the 2nd HD)
means that switching on the computer will boot linux without any probs.
But now the first HD is removable and so i will do it.
Now if i boot linux over an floppy disk (in cause of the missing 1st HD)
linux hangs at the partition check section. And now my question:

Is there any way to boot my linux on the 2nd HD  ?

Thanx for every assistance...

Thomas

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From: karel@icce.rug.nl (Karel Kubat)
Subject: Good statistics program needed.. hints?
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 08:26:47 GMT

Heia,

Just wondering. All I ever use my DOS partition for, is to run SPSS.. I
successfully migrated all other stuff to my happy Linux system. I'd _really_
like to dump DOS alltogether, but I'm looking for an SPSS replacement. Such a
stat program would have to be able to do manova's, time series operations
(filtering), and of course basic statistics. It wouldn't need to be SPSS
itself (I know that there's a commercial version) but rather a good free
domain program.

If you have experiences with stat programs for Unix, please drop me a mail. I
know that this subject isn't really Linux-related, but.. for me it is: this
way I could _really_ avoid DOS.

Thanks in advance,
Karel.
-- 
email: K.Kubat@icce.rug.nl             "Premature optimization is the root
phone: (+31) 50 63 36 47                of all evil.." (Knuth)
mail : ICCE, Univ. of Groningen,
  P.O. box 335, 9700 AH Groningen, Netherlands

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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: Number of colors under X-window ?
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 11:33:32 GMT

In article <2u8kir$l7k@oak.zilker.net>, faustus@zilker.net (Bret Patterson) says:
+---------------
| VEKEMANS Nicolas (vekemans@aurora.unice.fr) wrote:
| :  Has anybody tried to use X-window in more than 256 colors ?
| XFree86 doesn't support more than 256 colors yet. Hopefully its planned for
| the future.
+------------->8

If I remember correctly, some work was done but was put on hold so they could
do the X11R6 port (due out with the R6 contrib release).

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery         kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org          bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
Friends don't let friends load Windows NT.              Linux iBCS2 emulation

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From: schwab@ls5.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Andreas Schwab)
Subject: Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy
Date: 22 Jun 1994 12:04:11 GMT
Reply-To: schwab@ls5.informatik.uni-dortmund.de

In article <CrsLur.oJ@nntpa.cb.att.com>, pfennem@hzsbe04.ns-nl.att.com (P Fennema HV018 x4174) writes:

|> Hello,
|> I know this sounds silly, but what is an efficient method to split
|> a large (gzipped) tar file into pieces which fit on a 1.44 MB floppy?
|> I know the concatenating is easy with 'cat', but splitting is a little
|> harder. I can do it with split, but this works with line numbers and 
|> I'd like to split exactly at the 1.44Mbyte limit of the floppy.

The GNU version of split works with byte counts as well, and there is
also bsplit on some machines.

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Andreas Schwab                                      "And now for something
schwab@ls5.informatik.uni-dortmund.de                completely different"

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
From: sailer@sun10.sep.bnl.gov (Tim Sailer)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 16:07:29 GMT

Terry Lambert (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote:
: In article <1994Jun12.145821.18616@ksmith.com> keith@ksmith.com (Keith Smith) writes:
: ] 2) Most USERS have no clue as to what they are using.  Give them a menu,
: ] and let them do their job.  A customer Service rep is no more productive
: ] on an EXPENSIVE PC or X terminal than a $400 Text terminal.

: Actually, a customer service rep who can look up part numbers without
: losing their place on an order entry screen is much more productive
: than one who has to start over because he only has one window to do his
: work in.

*Actually*, if the application is written right, you should be able to
do queries off the order entry screen. Even text terminals can support
the curses based windows-type stuff.

Tim

-- 
                              Tim Sailer
                       sailer@sun10.sep.bnl.gov
          "What would you do with a brain if you had one?"
   Dorothy, Wizard of Oz

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From: dbrow42@rfc.comm.harris.com (David C. Brown)
Subject: Looking for GNU-SQL (GSQL) for Onyx
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 12:24:00 GMT

I got University Ingres, and find it to be very nice for the price -- more
than adequate for managing a set of databases at home.  But I'd really like
to try using SQL.  I downloaded Onyx, but it requires something that it calls
gnu-sql or gsql.  I don't see gnu-sql in archie, and searches for gsql turn
up just something used for SQL over Mosaic.  

Please somebody point me to the gsql package neeeded by Onyx!

--
Dave Brown N2RJT   | work:   dcb@rfc.comm.harris.com    
Rochester NY       | home:   dcb@vectorbd.com           
                   | packet: N2RJT@WB2PSI.#WNY.NY.USA.NA

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From: phyjab1@phyd4c4.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Jonathan A Buzzard)
Subject: Re: How to split large tar file to fit on floppy
Reply-To: phyjab1@phyd4c4.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Jonathan A Buzzard)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 11:53:14 GMT


--

>I know this sounds silly, but what is an efficient method to split
>a large (gzipped) tar file into pieces which fit on a 1.44 MB floppy?
>I know the concatenating is easy with 'cat', but splitting is a little
>harder. I can do it with split, but this works with line numbers and 
>I'd like to split exactly at the 1.44Mbyte limit of the floppy.

There is a niffty program called bsplit avaliable, I got my copy from

 src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/packages/tex/uk-tex/tools/bsplit

but check archie to find a site nearer home. This does the job just fine.

JAB.

===============================================================================
Jonathan A. Buzzard,              
Physics Department,           Email:-
Heriot-Watt University,            phyjab1@caledonia.hw.ac.uk   InterNet
Edinburgh. EH14 4AS                phyjab1@uk.ac.hw.clust       JANET
United Kingdom.

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
From: rick@digibd.com (Rick Richardson)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Reply-To: rick@digibd.com (Rick Richardson)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 11:47:42 GMT


In article <1994Jun20.031545.8880@bilver.oau.org>, bill@bilver.oau.org
(Bill Vermillion) writes:
|>In article <H$e$jukh1qjG066yn@shore.net>,
|>Beverly J. Brown <bjb@shore.net> wrote:
|>>In article <2tgi0i$icr@Venus.mcs.com>, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
|>>> In article <Dr6vC5.CIr@pe1chl.ampr.org>, Rob Janssen
|><pe1chl@rabo.nl> wrote:
|>>> >In <Cr5zEF.Ltx@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
|>writes:
|>>> >
|>>> >Why would you ever want to have >96 RS232 ports on a Unix box??
|>>> 
|>>> A bunch of modems, some printers sprinkled around the building,
|>some
|>>> inbound wire services, a couple of satellite uplinks. 96 sounds
|>>> about right to me...
|>>
|>>On one UNIX box?!?!?!?! Wouldn't you get better throughtput if you
|>scattered 
|>>them on different machines?
|>
|>It all depends on the machine doesn't it.   At a Unix Users
|>group meeting here last year, one local machine was described
|>as having 1000 terminals at 3 terabtyes of disk space.

Huge numbers of terminals on a single computer aren't that bizarre.
I believe we offer solutions for up to 768 terminals on an RS/6000,
and for up to 512 terminals on a PC, though the PC is most likely to be
an MP.  These are all concentrator based solutions, and clusters of terminals
may, in fact, be located anywhere in the world.
 

-- 
Rick Richardson, at home in Mtka, MN.

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From: johnsonm@merengue.oit.unc.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows
Date: 22 Jun 1994 01:34:15 GMT


In article <2u7rt5$1c4s@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> jeff@ee.ryerson.ca (Donald Jeff Dionne) writes:

   You know, all this talk about source for commercial software has me thinking
   about an idea I has a while ago again.  In an organized manner, perhaps by 
   a mail counter, register potential purchasers of commercial software ported
   to Linux, and present one "lobby group" face to the comunity.

I'll tell you what will make more commercial providers stand up and
take notice, and why I think so.

Ask for a demo version of their SCO, SVR4, or other iBCS2-supported
version of the program that you are interested in.  *Tell them you are
running it on Linux* If you like it, buy it, and *tell them you are
running it on Linux*.  If they refuse to support it if you run it on
Linux, tell them that you will not buy it *for that reason* and that
you will be shopping elsewhere.  After you buy it, complain *as a
customer* that no native Linux version is available.  But unless
people buy products, nothing will happen.  Money talks in that crowd.
Don't expect to pay only $49.95, either; no commercial unix app that I
am aware of is a commodity yet.

iBCS2 is a great opportunity to prove to vendors that Linux users are
serious about buying their products.  Let's take advantage of it.

The reason I think so is that I work for a company that sells a
product (an X/Motif spreadsheet called Xess) for most unices (and VMS,
for that matter).  One of our supported platforms is SCO.  I know that
our SCO version works under the iBCS2 emulator; I run Xess at home
that way.  We currently will tell people that Xess runs under Linux
using the iBCS2 patches, and we will support it.  However, not until
people start asking and actually buying Xess specifically to run under
Linux will a native Linux version come out.  We would love to do it,
but it takes an investment, and we have limited resources.

(I hate to be a walking billboard, but if this has interested you,
 send mail to info@ais.com and we'll tell you more.)

michaelkjohnson

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