Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #290
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Linux-Misc Digest #290, Volume #2                Mon, 20 Jun 94 08:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist) (ROBERT ADAMS)
  Re: Cobol (Paul Haller)
  Re: Segmentation Fault on realloc() in C++ (Steven Buytaert)
  [Q] iBCS2 does not insmod (Harald Milz)
  Re: Linux.... On a Sparc? (Kjetil Torgrim Homme)
  Re: Linux on Compaq Contura Aero (albayrak@cc.helsinki.fi)
  Suitable motherboards to run Linux? (Paul Moore)
  Re: Looking for a audio CD player (Ron Smits)
  Re: VP/ix for Linux? (Ron Smits)
  Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial) (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
  Re: add a partition later? (Simeon Walker)
  Re: [diff] Where is 'man diff' page? (B.A.McCauley@bham.ac.uk)
  Re: 8 megs --> 16 megs ??!? (Reinhard Schiedermeier)
  Re: S3 Support - A bit lacking? (Reinhard Schiedermeier)
  Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows (Brandon S. Allbery)

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From: robert@ksmith.com (ROBERT ADAMS)
Subject: Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 94 05:05:37 GMT

Jonathan Lennox (lennox@news.cs.columbia.edu) wrote:
:   Why not just have a DIRCOLORS (or LSCOLORS or something) environment
: variable storing the escape sequences?  It could be completely
: configurable, and terminal-dependent, in your .profile/.login, or
: re-configurable on-the-fly, it wouldn't require any special files or
: paths cluttering things up, it wouldn't require hitting libcurses, and
: it would seem to be very much in the UNIX spirit.  Wouldn't this
: address everyone's objections?

Have you looked at the size of the DIR_COLORS file?  1828k on my machine
man that would be one HUGE environmnet variable..  better yet a
use_dir_colors environmant varible..  if set..  it uses colors..
but then you have an even more bloated ls 

Robert,
 
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* Robert Adams           *  The University of North Carolina at Greensboro *
* adamsr@hamlet.uncg.edu     *                      Computer Science/Music *
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From: aragon@rz.fh-augsburg.de (Paul Haller)
Crossposted-To: al.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Cobol
Date: 20 Jun 1994 07:17:15 GMT



: Does anyone know if I can get a Cobol compiler that will run under Linux, 
: if you do please Email me at mstlouis.world.std.com.
: Thank-You.

Cobol cripples the mind and should therefore be regarded as a criminal
offence!!     ;>)


CU.
Paul. 




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From: buytaert@imec.be (Steven Buytaert)
Subject: Re: Segmentation Fault on realloc() in C++
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 08:14:19 GMT

ERIC R. BUDDINGTON (EBUDDINGTON@eagle.wesleyan.edu) wrote:
:       I have a program, partly my own, in C++, that gives segmentation faults
: which I have traced (using gdb) to a realloc statement.

 Could you give some more context please ? Normaly, C++ doesn't
 use realloc for memory management since realloc isn't aware of
 constructors etc... So I'm curious about the context...

:       NOTE: This program runs fine when compiled under DOS with Borland.

 I see this more as an anti-statement :-) Remember that DOS hasn't
 got virtual memory. Could well be that your DOS version has a
 time bomb in it too ?

 So, the moral ? Give some more context about the problem
 and let's continue this post in comp.lang.c++ ? You have
 a much better chance of getting help there.

 Stef

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WORK buytaert@imec.be
HOME buytaert@innet.be

        'Imagination is more important than knowledge.'
                        (A. Einstein)

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From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: [Q] iBCS2 does not insmod
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 08:00:47 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

I tried to play around with the iBCS2 emulator. As mentioned in the
README, I'd expect to flawlessly run iBCS2 with 1.1.15 or later. However,
all kernels from 1.1.15 to 1.1.19 didn't work with iBCS2 because insmod 
complained about two symbols not being defined:

root@seneca: /usr/src/ibcs> insmod iBCS 
_strcmp undefined
_file_systems undefined

Oops. What have I missed?

1.1.20 breaks the compilation of iBCS2, BTW, because three members of struct
task_struct are missing in sched.h. This is the part of patch20.gz which 
causes this:

@@ -252,12 +253,11 @@
        unsigned long flags;    /* per process flags, defined below */
        int errno;
        int debugreg[8];  /* Hardware debugging registers */
-       asmlinkage void (*lcall7)(struct pt_regs *);
+       struct exec_domain *exec_domain;
 /* various fields */
+       struct linux_binfmt *binfmt;
        struct task_struct *next_task, *prev_task;
        struct sigaction sigaction[32];
-       unsigned long * signal_map;
-       unsigned long * signal_invmap;

This happens with ibcs-940526.tar.gz and ibcs-940609.tar.gz. 

Ciao,
hm

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iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      home:   hm@seneca.ix.de
Opinions are mine, not my employer's -- the answer is Forty-two


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From: kjetilho@ifi.uio.no (Kjetil Torgrim Homme)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Linux.... On a Sparc?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 11:00:55 GMT

+--- Dave Smith:
| Solaris 1.1B = SunOS 4.1.3U1 Rev B. It is not Solaris 2.x ( Nothing
| like it ) and 4.1.3 is probably more stable than Linux.
| 

Granted, SunOS 4.1.3 is stable and nice overall, but try accessing a
DD floppy. There's a 50% chance of a kernel panic... I've heard the
serial drivers are pretty flaky as well (when using SLIP), but I
haven't used them.


Kjetil T.

PS. Do you know why there's all that junk after 4.1.3 instead of
calling it 4.1.4 (never mind 4.2!)? Sun politics has said that SunOS
4.1.3 will be the last version!!!

[Followup-To: alt.religion.computers]

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From: albayrak@cc.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq Contura Aero
Date: 20 Jun 1994 11:41:37 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc david@ms.oks.fujitsu.co.jp (David Shen) wrote:

>Is there anyone running Linux on Contura Aero?

        I am and also many others. Here is very first Alfa version
        of Aero-FAQ but it might contain some bugs and type errors.
        Hope it can give any help.

        -Ali-

=================== cut here ============================

Frequently asked Linux-specific questions of Compaq Contura Aero
=============================================================================

Authors:
        Ali Albayrak <albayrak@helsinki.fi>

0. Technical features:
======================

Following is picked from
tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/packages/laptops/laptop-survey :

From: ..................................... Ali Albayrak <albayrak@helsinki.fi>
Laptop Make and Model: .................... Compaq Contura Aero 4/25
CPU.speed, type, upgradeable.to: .......... 25MHz, i486SX/SL, -
Disk size, type, upgradeable.to: .......... 84 MB / 250 MB, IDE 2,5" slim
RAM  size, type, upgradeable.to: .......... 4 M, ?, 12 MB
Screen size, type: ........................ 8" (mono LCD) VGA
Max battery life while running linux: ..... < 4 h
Weight with battery: ...................... 1,6 kg
PCMCIA number of slot, type, bridge chip: . 1, Type II CSSI 2.01, -
Mouse, Track Ball (location),   etc.: ..... PS/2 type, trackball right-front
Docking capability: ....................... yes, very cheap
Power conservation: ....................... APM, works under Linux
Misc neat stuff: .......................... - smaller than A4 sheet!
........................................... - floppy optional but recommended
........................................... - a bit noisy hard-disk
........................................... - excellent keyboard
........................................... - small power-adapter
........................................... - very Linux-compatible despite
...........................................   PCMCIA-floppies and other
...........................................   weird stuff
Linux Version: ............................ 1.0 (Slackware 1.2.0)
X386 (color, gray) monitor specs: ......... ?
Networking (dlink/pcmcia modules): ........ ?
Written by: ............................... Ali Albayrak, albayrak@helsinki.fi


1. [Q]  Why my floppy drive does not work after I have suspended the machine
        and then waked it up?

   [A]  You have to enable option "Power ON in PCMCIA slot when
        suspended" from the setup 
                (main menu):Power Management:More
        Now setting in card are saved but however power is consumed
        more when machine stays suspended.


2. [Q]  Why my trackball does not work properly when I run Selection
        (the program that allows Cut&Paste in virtual consoles)?

   [A]  Aero's trackball is PS/2 compatible and there is bug in PS/2
        support of Selection. Following patch for version 1.5 is
        picked from sunsite.unc.edu and is written by <hjl@nynexst.com>:

H.J.
=====
*** mouse.c.orig        Thu Jun 17 19:11:04 1993
--- mouse.c     Fri Feb 11 20:56:26 1994
***************
*** 154,160 ****
      { 0xe0,   0x80,   0x80,   0x00,   3       },  /* MMSeries */
      { 0xe0,   0x80,   0x80,   0x00,   3       },  /* Logitech */
      { 0xf8,   0x80,   0x00,   0x00,   5       },  /* BusMouse */
!     {   0xcc, 0x00,   0x00,   0x00,   3       }   /* PS/2 */
  };
  
  static void
--- 154,160 ----
      { 0xe0,   0x80,   0x80,   0x00,   3       },  /* MMSeries */
      { 0xe0,   0x80,   0x80,   0x00,   3       },  /* Logitech */
      { 0xf8,   0x80,   0x00,   0x00,   5       },  /* BusMouse */
!     {   0xc0, 0x00,   0x00,   0x00,   3       }   /* PS/2 */
  };
  
  static void
***************
*** 209,216 ****
        return -1;
      }
  
!     if (mtype != P_BM && mtype != P_PS2)
      {
        ms_setspeed(9600, mbaud, cflag[mtype]);
        ms_setspeed(4800, mbaud, cflag[mtype]);
        ms_setspeed(2400, mbaud, cflag[mtype]);
--- 209,224 ----
        return -1;
      }
  
!     switch (mtype)
      {
+     case P_BM:
+       break;
+ 
+     case P_PS2:
+       write (mfd, "\364", 1);
+       break;
+ 
+     default:
        ms_setspeed(9600, mbaud, cflag[mtype]);
        ms_setspeed(4800, mbaud, cflag[mtype]);
        ms_setspeed(2400, mbaud, cflag[mtype]);
***End-of-patch***
******************

3. [Q]  I can't access the setup of Aero

   [A]  If you have got LILO installed you must uninstall it from hard disk
        or boot with diagnostics diskette of Aero.

        To uninstall LILO: in DOS give command
                FDISK /MBR
        then start FDISK without any options and set your DOS-partition
        active. Then boot your machine and hold down F10 key during the
        boot to access setup.

        You can create diagnostics diskette from setup. However if
        your BIOS is 7. March 1994 or older you can't do that. Contact
        your Compaq dealer to upgrade your BIOS.


4. [Q]  Why my PCMCIA floppy-drive doesn't boot?

   [A]  To be able to boot your machine from floppy-drive your BIOS
        must be dated 7. March 1994 or later. Contact your Compaq
        dealer for upgrade.

===================== cut here =================================


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From: p_moore@franklin.agfa.be (Paul Moore)
Subject: Suitable motherboards to run Linux?
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 94 13:05:39 +0200

Hello,

I'm about to upgrade my PC by in installing a 486 motherboard in place of my
existing 386 motherboard.

I believe that there is a Unix hardware FAQ, to list PC motherboards that
are UNIX/Linux compatible.

At the moment I don't have access to a news feed. Can someone please email
me this FAQ?

Thank you,
Paul

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Agfa-Gevaert EBS
Mechelsesteenweg 432     Email: p_moore@roam.agfa.be
2650 Edegem
BELGIUM                  "If it works, don't fix it!"

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From: ron@draconia.hacktic.nl (Ron Smits)
Subject: Re: Looking for a audio CD player
Date: 20 Jun 1994 13:04:21 GMT

The easiest way to use Imakefiles is by using the command xmkmf
-a. This will convert Imakefile into a Makefilem run makedepend on it
and recurse subdirectories if any.

Hope this helps
--



                Ron Smits
                ron@draconia.hacktic.nl
                Ron.Smits@Netherlands.NCR.COM

/*-( My opinions are my opinions, My boss's opinions are his opinions )-*/
/*-(                They might not be the same                        )-*/

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From: ron@draconia.hacktic.nl (Ron Smits)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: VP/ix for Linux?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 13:08:27 GMT

>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Knirsch <knirsch@dspaul7.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:

    Peter> Hello, has anybody ported the 386/ix DOS-emulator called
    Peter> "VP/ix" from INTERACTIVE/Phoenix to LINUX?

    Peter> VP/ix is not public domain software, but it is - compared
    Peter> with dosemu - a realy nice DOS-emulator.

    Peter> Peter (knirsch@informatik.tu-muenchen.de)

Beacuse of the ibcs2 compatibility I think it should be possible to
run the SCO version of VP/ix on a Linux box. Does anybody have any
experience with this?
--



                Ron Smits
                ron@draconia.hacktic.nl
                Ron.Smits@Netherlands.NCR.COM

/*-( My opinions are my opinions, My boss's opinions are his opinions )-*/
/*-(                They might not be the same                        )-*/

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From: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Subject: Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial)
Date: 20 Jun 1994 11:55:13 GMT
Reply-To: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)


In article <1145@blox.se>, bj0rn@blox.se (Bjorn Ekwall) writes:
> 
> This is an important topic that I feel we have to discuss further.
> I know that "logical" is not always the equivalent of "legal",
> but I hope it is possible to achieve an interpretation of the GPL
> that will satisfy both the "logical" and the "legal" aspects...
> I have marked some parts of my arguments below with '*', as being
> potentially more debatable than the rest.
> 

I believe that one of the points in the stacker(sp?) vs microsoft suit was
that microsoft alleged that stacker violated their copyright because stacker
modified the windows kernel when it was run.  I believe that the judge
said that that was not a copyright violation.  This seems to have a great
deal in common with the topic being discussed. Does anyone have any more
information about this suit?

Jim

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From: simeon@clss1.bangor.ac.uk (Simeon Walker)
Subject: Re: add a partition later?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 11:56:03 GMT

Bill McCarthy (bmccarth@gulfaero.com) wrote:
> Hiya:

> Was wondering: is it possible to add another partition after I have
> installed linux from the cd? The reason I'm asking is I love working
> with linux, but am not too keen on using the cd for X and man, for the
> mot part. I'm looking at the partition table and it reads:

> hda1 dos
> hda2 linux swap
> hda3 linux

> Now, I iinstalled linux only on a 60 meg partition, figuring I would
> try it out, etc. I now would like to add hda1 as a linux partition and
> to heck with dos/windows. Is it possoble to delete hda1 and create a new
> linux partition and then install x11src on the new partition WITHOUT having
> to reinstall linux from scratch. I'm using Yggdrasil Plug&Play cd. I hope
> this is a lucid request for info and any suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated. TIA.

> Bill McCarthy
> bmccarth@gulfaero.com

I use a PC which had the following:

sda1  dos
sda2  dos
sda3  linux swap
sda4  linux

I have just added a second disk for DOS so I didn't really need sda2 for DOS.
I used DOS FDISK to delete the second DOS partition. I booted Linux and then
used Linux fdisk to make the, now empty, sda2 area into another Linux
partition. Linux fdisk recognized that there were partitions around the area
for sda2 and suggested the correct numbers for the start and finish cylinders
of the new Linux partition. After that I just formattted and mounted the new
partition as usual.

I don't think that fact that you aren't using scsi (whereas I was) will make
any difference. Though I guess you may have to use DOS FDISK from a bootable
DOS floppy as you are deleting the primary partition. I don't know for sure
about that one as I've never had to do it.

Hope this all help,

Sim.

============================================================================
Simeon Walker,
University of Wales,Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 2UW, UK
email: simeon@clss1.bangor.ac.uk
============================================================================

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From: B.A.McCauley@bham.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [diff] Where is 'man diff' page?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 12:01:02 GMT

In article <CrK45K.13t@cwi.nl> aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer) writes:
>:   Today I found out I don't have a 'man diff' page.
>
>:   Anyone know if a Linux 'man diff' page exists and, if so, where I can 
>: find it?
>
>There is one in the SLS 1.05 distribution.

What's in it? AFAIK GNU diff comes with texinfo documentaion but no
man page - this has often irritated me. Usually I don't use
Slackware but I had a look in ap1/man.tgz and ap1/manpgs.tgz specially
and could find no diff manpage - could you tell me where you found
them?
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From: Reinhard.Schiedermeier@deejai.mch.sni.de (Reinhard Schiedermeier)
Subject: Re: 8 megs --> 16 megs ??!?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 11:56:27 GMT

Bret Patterson (faustus@zilker.net) wrote:
: Bogdan Urma (bogdan@crl.com) wrote:
: :    I've installed 8 more megs RAM to my 486/dx 33, to a previous 8, and so I
: : now have 16 megs RAM. Well, so far I haven't seen any speed increases, 
: : expecially
: : when compiling the kernel. It takes the exact same amount of time to
: : compile the kernel with 8 megs as it does with 16 megs of RAM. How come??
: : I realize that its using less of the swap space but shouldn't real RAM be
: : accessed faster than swap space? How does it work, and when will I start
: : to see any benefits from having added the extra 8 megs of RAM?

: When you run X windows you will notice a big difference when you have
I can confirm this.
Try to load a 500 k jpeg into xv, and you will see the difference.
--Schiedi

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From: Reinhard.Schiedermeier@deejai.mch.sni.de (Reinhard Schiedermeier)
Subject: Re: S3 Support - A bit lacking?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 12:01:20 GMT

Andrew Bray (andy@madhouse.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <2tpahjINNsen@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> paul@holmes.ece.orst.edu (Paul Stoffregen) writes:
: >I've got an S3 card (which is quite speedy under X, but cost < $140),
: >but quite often I switch over to a good 'ole tty.  I've tried several
: >times to get something higher than 80x25 in text mode, including an
: >attempt tonight.  Typing 'rdev -v /vmlinuz -#' where I try dozens of
: >different numbers seems to have no effect whatsoever.  I also tried
: >configuring lilo to set the video mode, but with little success.
I have a S3 928 board. rdev -v /vmlinz 1 gives me 80x28 instead of 80x25.
No big thing, I admit. But 3 more lines are better than nothing.
--Schiedi

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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:36:26 GMT

In article <1994Jun20.033921.21976@taylor.infi.net>, mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) says:
+---------------
| >* old software that is no longer sold should be given to the public 
| >  domain.  Locking old code away or destroying it is STUPID
| 
| Agreed.  And it DOES happen. Look at SCO-PRO.
+------------->8

Not a fair example; if SCO released it, Lotus would throw a fit.  :-(

++Brandon
-- 
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Friends don't let friends load Windows NT.              Linux iBCS2 emulation

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