Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #289
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Mon, 20 Jun 94 03:16:29 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #289, Volume #2                Mon, 20 Jun 94 03:16:29 EDT

Contents:
  killfiles for Linux (Tim Bass)
  Re: IBM 3510 CD-Rom (Rob Janssen)
  Re: Using floppy tapes under Linux? (Rob Janssen)
  Re: HTTP with LINUX PL20 (Erik Olson)
  SGI ElectroPaint (ep?) and/or gl libraries for linux? (kender@client.erinet.com (Daniel Garcia ))
  Re: Universal CDROM - enough already -give us a break! (S. M. Slamon)
  Help:  Can't partition my harddrive. ("Toan Hoang   ~{")
  Linux Journal issue #3 (July) (Joe Pannon)
  Re: Linux.... On a Sparc? (Dave Smith)
  Minicom problem in an xterm (Dan Wold)
  Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist) (Jonathan Lennox)
  Re: Need recommendation for SVGA card (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ? (Ed Hall)
  Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ? (Steve Ward)
  Re: future of Unixware (Terry Lambert)
  Re: ftp `macdef' broken?? (Ralf Baechle)
  Re: Universal CDROM - enough already -give us a break! (Charles Liu)
  Re: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware) (Bill Vermillion)
  Re: future of Unixware (Bill Vermillion)
  Secure ftp - here? (Steve Harrington)

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From: bass@cais.cais.com (Tim Bass)
Subject: killfiles for Linux
Date: 19 Jun 1994 19:56:05 GMT

Could someone explain how to set up kill files for news readers.  I use
tin and would like to kill newspostings from certain commercial vendors
on certain newsgroups!

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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: IBM 3510 CD-Rom
Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:33:30 GMT

In <2u0vdu$qal@aurora.engr.latech.edu> dgarrett@orbit.cs.engr.latech.edu (Don Garrett) writes:

>  By chance, I seem to have access to an IBM 3510 CD-Rom drive. That's
>all I know about it, except the ports on the back look like SCSI. The
>cable coming off of it is standard SCSI, and will plug into the back
>of my Adaptec 1542 controller, the other end of the cable is something
>different, similar looking but smaller.
>  What are the chances of my being able to use this drive? Is it worth
>going out and buying a scsi cable for it? I don't have much real use
>for a CD-Rom, but it might be fun to play with.

It will probably work just fine.
Make sure you remove the termination resistor packs on your 1542,
check if the drive has termination (if not, add terminators) and
the unit number is not equal to any number you already use (see boot
messages)

Rob
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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Using floppy tapes under Linux?
Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:43:26 GMT

In <1994Jun19.161135.10876@noao.edu> swampler@noao.edu () writes:

>I'm about to give up on my QIC-02 drive and am thinking of replacing
>it with a floppy tape drive.  I have two floppy disk drives already,
>does the floppy tape drive *replace* one of these, or can I have
>three floppy devices?  (I'm assuming I have to replace one of the
>floppy disks, right?)  Is there anything I should watch out for when
>getting a floppy tape drive?

>My QIC-02 drive has never worked reliably with Linux, with 1.0.8, it
>now rewinds right off the end of the tape!

You will probably regret it...  QIC-02 can work well under Linux, and
floppy tape support still has a lot of problems (or at least many problems
are reported in the news and the mailing list)

I have used an Archive QIC-02 drive and controller for 1.5 year without
any problem, only to replace it with a SCSI drive now that I have rebuilt
my machine.  The drive will go to another Linux user.

Maybe you have an unsupported controller, or have it misconfigured
in tpqic02.h and/or the jumpers.

Rob
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| Rob Janssen                | AMPRnet:   rob@pe1chl.ampr.org           |
| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl     | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU     |
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From: erik@marge.phys.washington.edu (Erik Olson)
Subject: Re: HTTP with LINUX PL20
Date: 20 Jun 1994 00:03:18 GMT

The problem with Mosaic and Lynx under 1.1.20 has to do with
one of the socket connect() return codes, which was changed.  The effect
will appear if you are using a slow enough line that the socket does
not connect very quickly (ie, PPP and SLIP).

I don't think this really has anything to do with MTU, except by random
coincidences.

  - Erik
--
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Erik D. Olson                                olson@phys.washington.edu
Linuholic                               erik@marge.phys.washington.edu

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From: kender@client.erinet.com (Daniel Garcia <System Overlord>)
Subject: SGI ElectroPaint (ep?) and/or gl libraries for linux?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 00:25:40 GMT

Hiya alls - quick question - anyone know where I could get source to a 
program called electropaint?  It was a demo that came with the SGI
Iris Indigo, and drew these 'dancing squares' (and could do quite a bit more
as well ;).  Also - anyone know where I could find the gl libraries for
linux?  Thanks in advance!

D

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===========.,======Coming=soon=to=a=PhD=Program=near=you=====.,==Carpe=Diem===
Ethernet is||Daniel Garcia - ATP Group - LLNL Gigabit Testbed||AntiClipperCens
for Sissies||  Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Labs - Livermore, CA ||orshipFightingF
Disclaimer.||dgarcia@cohl.llnl.gov<->kender@client.erinet.com||reedomLovingCru

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From: eclectic@netcom.com (S. M. Slamon)
Subject: Re: Universal CDROM - enough already -give us a break!
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 01:16:32 GMT

Charles Liu (alte@rahul.net) wrote:

: We were new in this business, did not know well how to reach the 
: potential customers.  

And rather than try to find out how, you bomb the Linux newsgroups.  
Ignorance is no excuse.

: Our formal advertisement will be in August's Linux Journal. 

So, until then does that mean you are going to continue pestering us here?

I'm so glad I purchaced my InfoMagic CDs from the ACC Bookstore instead 
of you.

-- 
 S. M. Slamon  -  eclectic@netcom.com  -  TIP #157 / IPPA #???? / DoD #1420
*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*
     Eclectic Engineering  -  P.O. Box 745  -  Watertown, MA 02272-0745


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From: "Toan Hoang   ~{" <tqhoang@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Help:  Can't partition my harddrive.
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 20:31:26 -0500


   The other day I was trying to install my harddrive and I ran into this
problem, I couldn't be able to get the computer to recognize my harddrive.
I tried using DOS fdisk, but it failed.  I tried using the OS/2 fdisk, I
was able to choose to partition the harddrive but when I choose save 
option and exit, it hangs.  Then I used the linux fdisk, this is what it
tells me.  Partition 1 does not start on cyclinder boundary.
phys(0, 0, 2) should be (0, 1, 1).
So, what is that mean?  and what can I do to fixed it.  Any help would
be appreciated.

-Toan-

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From: danubius@coho.halcyon.com (Joe Pannon)
Subject: Linux Journal issue #3 (July)
Date: 20 Jun 1994 01:48:34 GMT

I just noticed the July issue at a neighborhood magazine stand but I
have not received it myself.  I was very tempted to buy it right on the
spot because it looked even better than the first 2 issues.  This time it
had a nice glossy color photo on the cover like most computer magazines
do.  Very nice job! 

Joe Pannon

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From: dave@morris.uucp (Dave Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Linux.... On a Sparc?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 02:06:23 GMT

In article <uUB1kukh1K09066yn@shore.net>,
Beverly J. Brown <bjb@shore.net> wrote:
>In article <merlyn.771807115@winternet.com>, Doug McIntyre wrote:
>> stroutl@polaris.nova.edu (Leeman Strout) writes:
>> >Okey... Well... dad says he wants to see if he can by a Sparc 5 without 
>> >the Solaris 2.x license.  He wants to run Linux on it.  Can he do that?  
>> >Will it work?  How hard would it be to make it work?
>> 
>> No, Linux isn't ported to the Sparc. But why would you? Solaris (V1.1B) is 
>> much more stable, and Linux is trying to copy alot of it. By owning
>
>Solaris and stable do not belong in the same sentence without a NOT in 
>between! And GOD! PLEASE tell me Linux is NOT copying such a piece of crap!
>I haven't had much opportunity to put it to much of a test, but if it's as 
>stable as Solaris, I'll delete it from my machine! From all I'[ve heard from 
>others, Linux is MORE stable than Solaris. 

Solaris 1.1B = SunOS 4.1.3U1 Rev B.  It is not Solaris 2.x ( Nothing like 
it ) and 4.1.3 is probably more stable than Linux.


                        Dave

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From: danw@panix.com (Dan Wold)
Subject: Minicom problem in an xterm
Date: 19 Jun 1994 23:05:09 -0400

Minicom used to work fine for me in an xterm. Now it behaves oddly in the
dialing directory. When I try to use the arrow keys in the dialing-directory
it immediatly exits back to the main minicom screen.  It seems as if
xterm isn't configured to work with minicom.

I'm using  the olvwm that comes with  Slackware1.2.0.

Does anyone know how  to fix this?

Thanks,
Dan
danw@panix.com


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From: lennox@news.cs.columbia.edu (Jonathan Lennox)
Subject: Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)
Date: 19 Jun 1994 23:18:28 -0400

[Many suggestions for how to configure your ls colors --
/etc/DIRCOLORS, $HOME/.dir_colors, terminal-dependant configurations --
with objections to each, deleted.]

  Why not just have a DIRCOLORS (or LSCOLORS or something) environment
variable storing the escape sequences?  It could be completely
configurable, and terminal-dependent, in your .profile/.login, or
re-configurable on-the-fly, it wouldn't require any special files or
paths cluttering things up, it wouldn't require hitting libcurses, and
it would seem to be very much in the UNIX spirit.  Wouldn't this
address everyone's objections?

-- 
Jonathan Lennox
lennox@cs.columbia.edu

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
From: grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for SVGA card
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 02:31:44 GMT

anos@elmrd6.ineab.ikea.se wrote:
: grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
: > Mark van Hoeij (hoeij@sci.kun.nl) wrote:
: > 
: > : >   For good speed at 1024x768x256, I would suggest a 2 mb video card,
: > : >S3 based
: > 
: > : There is absolutely no point in having 2Mb for 1024x768x256 on an S3 card.
: > 
: > Depends on what you're doing.  The extra memory is used by the server
: > as a font cache and for pixmaps, cursors, backing store, etc.  Having
: > _some_ extra memory is pretty much required, and having a bunch is
: > nice.
: > 
: > Transfers of bitmaps between different regions of video board RAM is
: > _way_ faster than going from main memory to the video board.  If there
: > is enough RAM on the video board to store all of the pixmaps and fonts
: > you are using, there should be a significant performance increase over
: > having them all in main memory.
: > 

: Does this mean that changing the virtual display from 1600x1200 to 1024x768
: would "free" memory to be used as font cache etc, and thus give a performance
: boost ? All given that you have 2 MB video dram...

If it's a PCI or VLB board, then the bandwidth between main memory and
video memory is pretty good, so it might not be noticable.  I've got a
1M ISA Mach8 board at work, and a 2M VLB S3-928 board at home.  I'll
give some thougt to a benchmark of some sort (I suppose I could run
xbench, but that takes sooo long).

: Well, I'll give it a try on monday and see if I can notice any difference..

Good -- keep us posted.

--
Grant Edwards                                 |Yow!  CHUBBY CHECKER just had
Rosemount Inc.                                |a CHICKEN SANDWICH in
                                              |downtown DULUTH!
grante@rosemount.com                          |

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From: edhall@nntp.rand.org (Ed Hall)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 03:54:55 GMT

Terry Lambert (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote:
: In article <2tl4b0$3e0@rand.org> edhall@nntp.rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
: ] :   5) What kind of system/motherboard are you using
: ] 
: ]     Nice SuperEISA ver.1

: It is (or should be) well known that NiCE EISA motherboards do not
: support bus mastering DMAs in excess of 16M, just like ISA chip sets.

Uh, sorry to burst your bubble, but about the Nice SuperEISA ver.1:

  [you write:]
: . . . . (I'm partial
: to SiS for EISA, but that's just me -- and my very, very fast
: machine... Sis has the fastest Gate A20 I've ever seen, too).

Yup, the Nice SuperEISA ver.1 uses the SiS EISA chipset.

There are other NICE EISA MB's which use a HiNT chipset, and which not
only don't support bus mastering DMA above 16MB, but don't support
level-triggered interrupts.  Think of it as using a "Super ISA" chipset.
MCCI (NICE) isn't the only company which uses this chipset, and
as I've explained, it isn't the only chipset they use, either.

                -Ed Hall
                edhall@rand.org

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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 03:39:21 GMT

shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix) writes:

>Mark A. Davis (mark@taylor.infi.net) wrote:

>: Most all commercial software is in binary form.  Otherwise, people would
>: just steal the code.

>So?  They just steal the binaries now if they want to.  There is no reason
>for them to not distribute code.  They can make all the excuses they want,
>most of them are nowhere near being valid.

This is an unrealistic stance.  If the code to WordPerfect were available,
competators could easily steal concepts or code segments and cover it up.
Besides, look at WordPerfect 6.0 for Unix, for example.  The SOURCE
code could be in the 40 - 60 MB range!

>I also wish I could get software without paying for user support.  I
>don't need it, why should I pay for it?  There should be several
>changes in commercial software:

>* source code provided

I'm telling you, that is not going to happen :)

>* support should be unbundled if you don't need it or only need
>  minimal support

Agreed.  Add "fairer prices for those sites with people who KNOW what
they are doing and need quick technical help"

>* customized versions should be available that eliminate the vast
>  majority of stupid features and bloated auto-PR

That would be very nice.  How about "Also, smaller 'lite' versions of
big things at smaller prices"

>* old software that is no longer sold should be given to the public 
>  domain.  Locking old code away or destroying it is STUPID

Agreed.  And it DOES happen. Look at SCO-PRO.

-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | mark@taylor.infi.net           |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: steve@up.edu (Steve Ward)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,biz.sco.general,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ?
Date: 19 Jun 1994 22:25:08 -0700

In article <2u132p$1t4@u.cc.utah.edu>,
Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu> wrote:
>In article <2tl4b0$3e0@rand.org> edhall@nntp.rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
>] :    5) What kind of system/motherboard are you using
>] 
>]     Nice SuperEISA ver.1
>
>It is (or should be) well known that NiCE EISA motherboards do not
>support bus mastering DMAs in excess of 16M, just like ISA chip sets.

It should be noted that the NiCE Super EISA Rev. 1 DOES USE the SiS
chipset, and does work with the BusLogic 747s driver.

Perhaps other NiCE motherboards have a problem, but I've not run into it
(we use both the SuperEISA and the MiniEISA here).

Steve
-- 
Steve Ward, Jr., System operator
School of Engineering, University of Portland
Portland OR
steve@up.edu

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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 20 Jun 1994 05:32:00 GMT

In article <1994Jun19.195258.10335@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:
[ ... multisession ... ]
] Your definition of "multisession" differs from what others use, then.  None
] of the above programs use either "screen"-like sessions or multiple
] ports/consoles; they use dedicated look-up windows.

I didn't mention the database programs specifically.  But "my definition"
is the same one DEC used in the VT330/VT340 and DECServer 200 in 1983.

It's also the same definition SCO used for its console in 1985, Computone
used for their "session switch" utilyzing WYSE-50 and WYSE-60 terminals in
1987, and SCO used in 1988 for mscreen.

] the category list, the others will not; activating a lookup form will suspend
] everything else, and you can't switch back and forth at will.  One session,
] multiple *limited availability* forms.

Precisely why I did not refer to the specific lame implementation found
in these programs -- that, and it forces the assumption that the data
you want to find is also in the same program, which is something only
the manufacturer of one of the programs would believe.

Anyway, the only bearing this has on UnixWare is the fact that support
for it on the AT&T terminals you used to attach to 3B2 (predating all
previous examples) is not available after SVR3.2.


                                        Terry Lambert
                                        terry@cs.weber.edu
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.

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From: ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Baechle)
Subject: Re: ftp `macdef' broken??
Date: 20 Jun 1994 06:29:49 GMT

|> The ftp that I am using is part of the Slackware distribution that I 
|> just got--ie it's the latest rev available.

That's not the only thing broken. You can't define an entry in your
.netrc for an machine which is named ftp. Other (older) ftp-clients
seemed to be ok. Does anyone know the apropriate bugreport address?

--Ralf

-- 
Ralf Baechle

Internet: linux@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
Fido:     Ralf Baechle 2:245/5618.2

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From: Charles Liu <alte@rahul.net>
Subject: Re: Universal CDROM - enough already -give us a break!
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 06:06:48 GMT

In article <eclecticCro8vK.FLB@netcom.com>,
S. M. Slamon <eclectic@netcom.com> wrote:
>Charles Liu (alte@rahul.net) wrote:
>
>: We were new in this business, did not know well how to reach the 
>: potential customers.  
>
>And rather than try to find out how, you bomb the Linux newsgroups.  
>Ignorance is no excuse.

Indeed, we have collected 200 - 500 lines of information of each 
distribution and sent to numerous inquiries, either asking for detail, 
comparasion or recommandation.  

>
>: Our formal advertisement will be in August's Linux Journal. 
>
>So, until then does that mean you are going to continue pestering us here?
>
>I'm so glad I purchaced my InfoMagic CDs from the ACC Bookstore instead
>of you. > >-- > S. M. Slamon - eclectic@netcom.com - TIP #157 / IPPA
#???? / DoD #1420
>*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*
> Eclectic Engineering - P.O. Box 745 - Watertown, MA 02272-0745
>


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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 02:57:22 GMT

In article <1994Jun13.134758.13245@frmug.fr.net>,
Bernard Fouche <bernard@cpio1.frmug.fr.net> wrote:
>In article <rick.771073998@digibd>,
>Rick Richardson <rick@digibd.digibd.com> wrote:
>>[bits deleted]
>>I estimate the size of the PC multiport
>>serial market at $200M, or about 2 million ports/year.  70% of
>>that is Unix (all flavors), or 1.4 million ports/year.  I don't
>>know what the breakdown is after that, but lets be conservative:
>>[some conservative figures deleted]
>>      -Linux 0%               0 ports/year

>My company bought about 10 boards from digiboard to use them over ISC
>and Dell Unix.  ISC has been bought by Sun, Dell Unix has been dropped
>by Dell, we do not want to develop under SCO, etc. There is now only
>Unixware that seems serious enough. But for how long ?

Why don't you want to develop under SCO.  It was there with
it's Xenix long before the Bell ->ISC -> Kodak -> SUn (did I
get that right), there before Dell, before MicroPort, and has
survived where Dell didn't.  At least they have a long term
stability going for them. 

-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 03:15:45 GMT

In article <H$e$jukh1qjG066yn@shore.net>,
Beverly J. Brown <bjb@shore.net> wrote:
>In article <2tgi0i$icr@Venus.mcs.com>, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
>> In article <Dr6vC5.CIr@pe1chl.ampr.org>, Rob Janssen <pe1chl@rabo.nl> wrote:
>> >In <Cr5zEF.Ltx@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>> >
>> >Why would you ever want to have >96 RS232 ports on a Unix box??
>> 
>> A bunch of modems, some printers sprinkled around the building, some
>> inbound wire services, a couple of satellite uplinks. 96 sounds
>> about right to me...
>
>On one UNIX box?!?!?!?! Wouldn't you get better throughtput if you scattered 
>them on different machines?

It all depends on the machine doesn't it.   At a Unix Users
group meeting here last year, one local machine was described
as having 1000 terminals at 3 terabtyes of disk space.

Knowing the boxes, the bare bones start at 6 figures.


-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org

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From: harringt@eskimo.com (Steve Harrington)
Subject: Secure ftp - here?
Date: 19 Jun 94 01:46:04 GMT

I recently saw a post on a "secure" replacement for telnet/ftp.  However, 
I lost the post.  Was it posted here?  If so, where can I get the
source for these?

All help appreciated.

-- 
Steve
harringt@eskimo.com

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