Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #278
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Fri, 17 Jun 94 02:13:37 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #278, Volume #2                Fri, 17 Jun 94 02:13:37 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Converting to Mac or PC word processing formats (Eckard Kopatzki)
  Re: Does PPP on Linux Route TCP/IP? (Eckard Kopatzki)
  Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: Why Linux? (Paul)
  ST-01 SCSI & Tape Backup (Jim Trocki)
  Re: Yggdrasil Summer Release--Is it worth it? (Darrel Hankerson)
  Re: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware) (Paul Etzell)
  Re: future of Unixware (Rob Janssen)
  BusLogic BT-445S (Bill Heiser)
  openwin's Xinitrc? (James W. Abendschan)
  Re: PCI Chipsets? URGENT! (Paul)
  Re: PCI Chipsets? URGENT! (Paul)
  Re: future of Unixware (Wolfgang Schelongowski)
  Version of tmon that checks screen size (David Fox)
  Comments and a question on PCI M/Bs (Ken Mcdonald)

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From: root@stevie.isar.muc.de (Eckard Kopatzki)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Converting to Mac or PC word processing formats
Date: 16 Jun 1994 23:23:16 GMT

In article <2tnh40$nvv@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Brandon.Vanevery@launchpad.unc.edu (Brandon Vanevery) writes:
> I have a Linux box, and I have no printer.  To print things, I have to use
> someone else's Macintosh or PC running MSDOS and/or Windows.
> 
> Problem is, I want to print things that are prettier than plain ASCII.  I
> need a converter
> 
> from: a nice format my machine understands
> such as:      .PS .dvi .tex .whatever
> to:   a nice format that a Mac or PC understands
> such as:      .RTF .EPS .word .wp .whatever
> 
> Any suggestions are welcome.  Note, I'm aware that many Mac and PC word
> processors can interpret various files themselves.  But the last time I
> went to Kinko's, I noticed they had rather old versions of their word
> processing software running, which lacked the appropriate filters. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
> 
> --
> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 
> Launchpad is an experimental internet BBS. The views of its users do not 
> necessarily represent those of UNC, OIT, the SysOps or Captain Picard.
> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

Why don't you export PostScript files from your Linux box and print them with
Ghostscript on the PC? If you buy Adobe's AFM which comes with Type1 fonts
(Helvetica, Times Roman, and Courier) and use these fonts for Ghostscript (in
place of the re-outlined bitmap stuff which comes with Ghostscript) the result
is really great.

-- 
Eckard Kopatzki           Internet eko@isar.muc.de
Therese-Giehse-Allee 53     CompuServe 100024,2175
D-81739 Muenchen, Germany     Voice +49-89-6378103

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From: root@stevie.isar.muc.de (Eckard Kopatzki)
Subject: Re: Does PPP on Linux Route TCP/IP?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 23:43:04 GMT

In article <1994Jun15.193140.6409@hal.depaul.edu>, ghoward@hawk.depaul.edu (Gentry Howard) writes:
> Will my Linux box be able to function like a TCP/IP router for the rest of
> my Ethernet if I run PPP or SLIP to a service provider? In other words,
> will my TCP/IP clients on my ethernet be able to request socket level
> services from hosts on the internet over a PPP or SLIP connection? What
> software/hardware/service combination would I need to make this happen?
> 
> Now if I could only get Xwindows to work...

You can switch IP-forwarding in the latest kernels (older kernels have it
switched on by default). The problem is that your local ethernet has to be
known in the outside world to be accessible. Choosing arbitrary IP-addresses
for the nodes on your local net works fine as long as your're not connected to
the Net but will not work for IP connections to the Net (where should the
remote host send the packets to if it does not know how to reach you?). Service
providers normally give you the admittance to connect one node to their net
(i.e., you're assigned one address) but not to connect a whole subnet at your
site.

-- 
Eckard Kopatzki           Internet eko@isar.muc.de
Therese-Giehse-Allee 53     CompuServe 100024,2175
D-81739 Muenchen, Germany     Voice +49-89-6378103

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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:58:13 GMT

niedner@petrus.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr (Niedner) writes:


>: >So, anyone know how much WordPerfect for X-Windows costs retail?  :)  How 
>: >many thousands, that is?  :)

>: I suppose you are in for a surprise.  How about under $295....
>: And if you already have an MS-"DOS" Wordperfect license, you can upgrade
>: to the Unix version for about half that or less.....  call 'em.

>Sorry, as a novice I would like to know how i can get it to work.

You must install and use the COFF/IBCS code for Linux.  Then follow the
included "hack" instructions for loading up WP for Unix.

> Is it a
>binary distibution, or is there source code inclunded?

Most all commercial software is in binary form.  Otherwise, people would
just steal the code.

>(I suppose from your 
>answers thaw WP _will_ run under Linux/X11).

Apparently, yes.  With some hacks....
-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | mark@taylor.infi.net           |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: paul@myrddin.isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul)
Subject: Re: Why Linux?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:24:16 +0000

In article <2tm7sc$16r@crl2.crl.com>, Bill Hogan <bhogan@crl.com> wrote:
>Quoting what John Dyson (dysonj@delphi.com) wrote, I wrote:
>  Well, I am not a "dedicated software professional" and I don't wish to
>be one; moreover, I do not conceive of myself as having "joined" Linux,
>and that is another example of a difference between the BSD milieu (if you
>will) and Linux that is *important to me*. 
>
>  As you evidently do not seem to believe that what is important to me is
>important enough not to mischaracterize it, let me be a little more blunt. 
>
>  Why isn't FreeBSD distributed under the FSF GPL?

This almost always results in a BSD/GPL copyright flame fest, I hope that
people restrain themselves given that this information was specifically
requested.

The reason is that we believe that anyone should be able to do
anything they want with our code, the ONLY restriction being that
the proper accreditation to the original authors remains. GPL'd
code is not "free" enough for us since it has a whole number of
restrictions.  It is a matter of opinion which is the most appropriate
for such a project and any arguments on the matter are just a
fruitless waste of effort.

As to the use of "we". How exactly am I supposed to state the above without
using "we"? The options are, I,you,he/she,we,you,they. Now of all those the
only suitable one is "we". You're assertion that the FreeBSD camp is somehow
elitist just because we use the word "we" is just totally ridiculous and 
petty.

FreeBSD is just as open a community as Linux is. The fact that
there is a "core" group reflects nothing other than the fact that
a small group of individuals spend more time than others working
on it and we therefore reflect that by providing a small amount of
fame for their efforts. Most decisions are made by the user community as
a whole. When the rare occasion arises that a particular feature is 
contentious it is usually resolved by a simple "show of hands" on the
mailing list. There is no "executive" body that decides what does and
does not happen.

This is different to the management of freefall, the physical machine that 
is the base of our work. There is a small group of people who determine
policy regarding its use but that is no different to ANY machine. Someone
has to administer the machine and freefall happens to be managed by
the small group who set up the FreeBSD project in the first place.

You have a particularly, in my opinion, novel way of interpeting the use
of the English language. It is perfectly normal for a group of people with
similar interests to refer to themselves as "us" or "we" without it
meaning they are an elitist, officially organised body.
-- 
  Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member.
  Intelligent Systems Laboratory, ELSYM ,University of Wales, College Cardiff
  Internet: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk,  JANET(UK): RICHARDSDP@CARDIFF.AC.UK

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From: trockij@Cyanamid.COM (Jim Trocki)
Subject: ST-01 SCSI & Tape Backup
Reply-To: trockij@Cyanamid.COM
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:49:13 GMT

  Has anyone gotten the Seagate ST-01 SCSI controller to work with
a SCSI tape drive, such as the Archive 2150S? I have an ST-01 lying
around, and I'm looking to buy an Archive 2150S tape backup to
attach to it, and I would like to know if anyone has had success with
such a configuration.

Jim Trocki


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From: hankedr@mail.auburn.edu (Darrel Hankerson)
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Summer Release--Is it worth it?
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:17:17 GMT

In article <2tqb3t$lin@agate.berkeley.edu> maxims@uclink.berkeley.edu (Maxim Spivak) writes:

   I'm about to upgrade/reinstall Linux again, and I would like to get some 
   feedback on the Yggdrasil Summer Release distribution. I've always before 
   used Slackware (both the ftp-able floppy and TransAmeritech CDROM 

You can find some info on these distributions at the main archive
sites. 

I'm new to linux, with the Summer Yggdrasil CD. My testing has been
limited to the TeX stuff, DOSEMU, display, and installs (including
some compiles) of eps, xv, xfig, term116 (term-1.1.4 is on the CD),
and ckermit.

The package certainly makes it easy to get linux up and running. 
The 100-page manual is clear. The only problem I've seen so far
is in the usermaint script--it appears that there is an extra "/lib"
which should be deleted. A number of installation/setup options are
handled by a control-panel (but I have not yet tested the network
connection stuff). "cat /proc/version" shows    

 Linux version 1.1.0 (root@adam.yggdrasil.com) #82 Sat Apr 23 02:55:44 PDT 1994

   The other question is about the Linux Bible: is it worth $40 or is it 
   just all the FAQ's in a nice format? In other words, should I by it or 
   just ftp stuff off the net? Is there an index?

It's worth it for me. It consists of freely-distributable documents
(including the Yggdrasil installation manual). If you plan to print
very many pages, then it is clear that the bound manual will be
preferred (and the Linux Documentation Project gets a small amount
from Yggdrasil for each copy sold). There are some minor errors in
the conversion to TeX, and some chapters have been inserted so that
the page numbers appear near the binding. There is a TOC, but no
index. I'd like to see the next release printed 2-up.

--
--Darrel Hankerson hankedr@mail.auburn.edu

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: etzell@plains.NoDak.edu (Paul Etzell)
Subject: Re: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:24:40 GMT
Reply-To: wind!greg@plains.nodak.edu

In article <CrH2K0.HoD@molly.uucp>, Jim Vlcek <uunet!molly!vlcek> wrote:
>
>That's a LONG way from being the foundation upon which a company's well-being  
>rests.
>
>Running a database isn't like downloading freeware off the net just for the  
>fun of getting it to compile and playing with it for a few minutes.
>
>Show me someone who's using Linux to run a business and is making some  
>serious coin out of it, other than the outfits simply republishing the source  
>and binaries.

Our Cancer Center does.  In fact it now couldn't open if any one of the
25 Linux workstations in it weren't working.

Watch the Linux Journal for more details (providing I meet Michael's
publication deadline.. :-) ).

>Jim Vlcek                         Elements of the information superhighway:
>uunet!molly!vlcek                                        UNIX: the concrete
>molly!vlcek@uunet.uu.net                             TCP/IP: the road signs
>Beautiful downtown St. Paul                   Windows: the fast-food joints

Dr. Greg Wettstein
Roger Maris Cancer Center
Fargo, ND  58122
e-mail: wind!greg@plains.nodak.edu



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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:29:03 GMT

In <Cr8MDB.B5F@molly.uucp> uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) writes:

>James Logajan writes
>> Brandon S. Allbery (bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org) wrote:
>> : mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) says:
>> : | You would be surprised how many people use Unix at work 
>> : | and do not know it.
>> 
>> : *I* wouldn't.  I was amused to note that the POS terminals at 
>> : MicroCenter are Wyse 60-series (probably WY-160s) terminals, 
>> : and that the POS application is written in Progress...  
>> : Leaves little room for anything *but* Unix, probably SCO.
>> 
>> I seem to recall that either MacDonalds or Burger King (I forget 
>> which) used Xenix on their front counter order-entry systems. 
>> Maybe to get Unix experience, a person should flip burgers :-)

>Was at CompUSA yesterday evening and - right there in the middle 
>of some Compaqs and other PCs - was a CRT with an AIX login prompt.  
>Somehow I guessed that this wasn't an item of merchandise.  Of course, 
>I tried to login using a few obvious UNIX login/password combinations, 
>but no luck...

Tried "-froot" ?  :-)

Rob
-- 
=========================================================================
| Rob Janssen                | AMPRnet:   rob@pe1chl.ampr.org           |
| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl     | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU     |
=========================================================================

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From: bill@bhhome.ci.net (Bill Heiser)
Subject: BusLogic BT-445S
Date: 17 Jun 1994 03:52:45 GMT

I just installed a BusLogic BT-445S in my 486 DX2/66 system.
I am running the 1.1.19 kernel configured with the "Buslogic" driver.
It seems to be working, so far, but when it booted it printed the following
message:

    BusLogic SCSI: interrupt received, but no mail

What does this mean?

Attached is the boot log to show the system configuration:


    Console: colour EGA+ 80x25, 8 virtual consoles
    Serial driver version 4.00 with no serial options enabled
    tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450
    tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
    lp_init: lp1 exists, using polling driver
    
    ATI Inport Bus mouse detected and installed.
    Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 33.55 BogoMips
    BusLogic SCSI: Inquiry Bytes: 41 41 33 33
    Configuring BusLogic EISA/VESA HA at port 0x330, IRQ 11, ID 7
    BusLogic SCSI: interrupt received, but no mail
    scsi0 : BusLogic
    scsi : 1 hosts.
      Vendor: MAXTOR    Model: 7345-SCSI         Rev: 2065
      Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
    Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, id 0, lun 0
      Vendor: MAXTOR    Model: XT-8760S          Rev: B6B 
      Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
    Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, id 1, lun 0
      Vendor: CDC       Model: 94171-9           Rev: 5759
      Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
    Detected scsi disk sdc at scsi0, id 2, lun 0
      Vendor: ARCHIVE   Model: VIPER 150  21247  Rev: -005
      Type:   Sequential-Access                  ANSI SCSI revision: 01
    Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, id 4, lun 0
    scsi : detected 3 SCSI disks 1 tape total.
    Memory: 14536k/16384k available (484k kernel code, 384k reserved, 980k data)
    This processor honours the WP bit even when in supervisor mode. Good.
    Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is 1.2M
    Swansea University Computer Society NET3.014
    IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
    SLIP: version 0.7.5-NET3.014-NEWTTY (4 channels)
    CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
    Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
    Linux version 1.1.19 (root@bhhome) #2 Thu Jun 16 23:21:52 EDT 1994
    Partition check:
      sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4
      sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb4
      sdc: sdc1 < sdc5 > sdc2
    VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
    Adding Swap: 33788k swap-space
-- 
Bill Heiser:    bill@bhhome.ci.net,  heiser@world.std.com

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From: unkadath!shamus@naucse.cse.nau.edu (James W. Abendschan)
Subject: openwin's Xinitrc?
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:08:29 GMT

Hello.  I seem to have completely mangled the Xinitrc file that openwin
uses.  Would some kind person mail me theirs?  The complete path is (was)
/usr/openwin/lib/Xinitrc

(I'm so ashamed...)

James

-- 
James W. Abendschan                "Turing," she said.  "You are under arrest."
...!naucse!unkadath!shamus    shamus@unkadath.uucp      jwa@sunset.cse.nau.edu

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: paul@myrddin.isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul)
Subject: Re: PCI Chipsets? URGENT!
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:45:31 +0000

In article <zxmgv07.771701695@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>,
Michael Will <zxmgv07@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
>I know of ppl reporting 103k-xstones with a saturn-chipset-motherboard
>and an ATI-GUP... it is not quite what I would call a massive-decrease
>in speed... or would it be much faster?
>

Well, first are they using dma bus-mastering?
Does it have the fixed chipset?

>Cheers, Michael Will
>PS: Please add information to my PCI-HOWTO

Who me? I don't really have anything to do with Linux so I wouldn't know how.


-- 
  Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member.
  Intelligent Systems Laboratory, ELSYM ,University of Wales, College Cardiff
  Internet: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk,  JANET(UK): RICHARDSDP@CARDIFF.AC.UK

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: paul@myrddin.isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul)
Subject: Re: PCI Chipsets? URGENT!
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:48:28 +0000

In article <2toc36$bbp@jake.esu.edu>, Akihiko Nakashima <aki@esu.edu> wrote:
>

>Hi! I just learned about this stuff...  Since I am looking to buy a new
>PCI machine (P90?), does anybody know who sells this?
>
>Does Gateway2000, Dell, Compac, or Micron sell PCs with this matherboard?
>

The Gateway P5-90 uses the neptune chipset. I've got one on order so I'll
be a bit miffed if they turn out not to work properly.

-- 
  Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member.
  Intelligent Systems Laboratory, ELSYM ,University of Wales, College Cardiff
  Internet: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk,  JANET(UK): RICHARDSDP@CARDIFF.AC.UK

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From: ws@xivic.bo.open.de (Wolfgang Schelongowski)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 16 Jun 1994 16:19:46 +0200

In <CrE1p8.BDx@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.c.brown) writes:
...
[referring to henryc@reality.UUCP (Christian Henry)]

>       Also, my .sig is fine, just because yours is 2 lines long
>       does not mean that mine is to long.

Sigh. From the New Hackers Dictionary a.k.a. jargon file <clickety-click>:

 :sig block: /sig blok/ [UNIX; often written `.sig' there] n.
...
   {fool file, the}); but many consider large sigs a waste of
   {bandwidth}, and it has been observed that the size of one's sig
   block is usually inversely proportional to one's longevity and
   level of prestige on the net.

'Nuff said.
-- 
Wolfgang Schelongowski  ws@xivic.bo.open.de

"If you don't look after knowledge, it goes away."
  -- Terry Pratchett, The Carpet People

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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Version of tmon that checks screen size
Date: 16 Jun 1994 21:02:17 GMT

I've made a few simple changes to tmon to allow it to
adapt appropriately to the terminal size (though
not to changes in that size) and to take a -time argument
to set the timeout interval.  Who is in charge of term
development now?  I couldn't quite figure it out from the
term116 documents.  Oh heck, here it is.

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David Fox                                               xoF divaD
NYU Media Research Lab                     baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mcdonald@cs.sfu.ca (Ken Mcdonald)
Subject: Comments and a question on PCI M/Bs
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 03:05:42 GMT


Well, to add to the confusion about the availability of dx4/100 systems,
here's a note about Maximus systems.  I'd seen one of their systems (called
the Mega PCI, featuring a dx4/100 on an Intel Mercury M/B), and called to
ask a few questions.  According to the salesman I talked to, Intel has
requested they stop distributing this system, due to BIOS bugs.  Anyone
care to comment?

However, looking through one of PC magazines that just appeared in my
area today, I notice that Quantex (1-800-787-8686) appears to be offering
a pretty nice P-90 system for about $2300.  I will call for details tomorrow,
but was wondering if anyone could comment on the quality/service/etc. offered
by this company.

Thanks,
Ken McDonald
mcdonald@cs.suf.ca

P.S. crossposted to the linux group 'cause there seem to be a lot of people
who, like me, are looking for a machine on which to run Linux.

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