Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #277
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Thu, 16 Jun 94 22:13:11 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #277, Volume #2                Thu, 16 Jun 94 22:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux stable enough for commercial products yet? (Wayne Schlitt)
  ADVICE: InfoMagic CD distribution (Robert King)
  Re: ADVICE: InfoMagic CD distribution (Charles Liu)
  IFCONFIG ON LINUX (Peter O Orondo)
  Re: future of Unixware (Number 6)
  Re: Yggdrasil and PAS16 SCSI/CDROM: Any successes? (Dan Inman)
  Re: future of Unixware (Shane Jensen)
  Re: Slackware and X11, what gives? (Allen R Sparks)
  Problem with X11 install (Allen R Sparks)
  Font problems with auis63L0 packages (Terry Gliedt)
  Emerald Qic-2 tape adapter (Clarence Wilkerson)

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From: wayne@backbone.uucp (Wayne Schlitt)
Subject: Re: Linux stable enough for commercial products yet?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 07:32:57 GMT
Reply-To: wayne@cse.unl.edu

In article <ATS4.94Jun12234440@cec3.wustl.edu> ats4@cec3.wustl.edu (Alan  T Shutko) writes:
> 
> Well, Novell is releasing Corsair, which AFAIK is a Linux Kernal with
> Novell UI add-ons. 

Oh?  "Novell is releasing" makes it sound so official.  Do you have
anything to back this statement up?  Here is what someone from Novell
said about it:


< From: gfd@summit.novell.com (George F Demarest)
< Newsgroups: comp.unix.unixware
< Subject: Re: Expose article - spot the errors
< [ ... ]
< 
< Anyway, Just to lay this whole mess to rest.  The alleged product 
< "Expose" or "Corsaire" was a code name for some research being done 
< at Novell.  This work has yielded some very interesting technology 
< and was done in a think-tank manner.  The work itself will not come 
< out in the form of a product as speculated by the trade press.  The 
< technology developed will enhance current and future Novell products 
< although I have nothing to announce at this moment.  UnixWare will 
< almost certainly benefit from some very inspired work done by the 
< team.
< 
< Details on this matter are not for public discourse, but those 
< who would like to discuss the intimate details of the source code
< *their* company is selling, feel free.
< 
< gfd
< 
< 
< : Darren R. Davis
< 
< --
< +x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x
< George Demarest                       | "large systems, whether the government or
< Novell, Inc. (USG, SED)               | private, have an inhumanity to them that's
< gfd@summit.novell.com                 | fundamentally intolerable" - M. Kapor
< (908) 522-6363                        | Disclaimer: "ok ok, forget I even said it."
< +x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x

-wayne

-- 
The human brain is a complex organ with the wonderful power of
enabling man to find reasons for continuing to believe whatever it is
that he wants to believe.    -Voltaire

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From: robking@actrix.gen.nz (Robert King)
Subject: ADVICE: InfoMagic CD distribution
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 06:40:42 GMT


Does anyone have any experience with the InfoMagic distributionn of 
Linux?  That and the Yggdrasil distribution are the only ones that I've 
found here in New Zealand.

Thanks.
-- 
=======================================+======================================
Robert King                       NEW ZEALAND            robking@actrix.gen.nz
 COBOL: The only programming language to successfully compile "War and Peace"
=======================================+======================================

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From: alte@rahul.net (Charles Liu)
Subject: Re: ADVICE: InfoMagic CD distribution
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:37:47 GMT

In article <CrH97u.H77@actrix.gen.nz>,
Robert King <robking@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>Does anyone have any experience with the InfoMagic distributionn of 
>Linux?  That and the Yggdrasil distribution are the only ones that I've 
>found here in New Zealand.
>
>Thanks.
>-- 
>---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
>Robert King                       NEW ZEALAND            robking@actrix.gen.nz
> COBOL: The only programming language to successfully compile "War and Peace"
>---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------


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In article <CrH97u.H77@actrix.gen.nz>,
Robert King <robking@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>Does anyone have any experience with the InfoMagic distributionn of 
>Linux?  That and the Yggdrasil distribution are the only ones that I've 
>found here in New Zealand.
>
>Thanks.
>-- 
>---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
>Robert King                       NEW ZEALAND            robking@actrix.gen.nz
> COBOL: The only programming language to successfully compile "War and Peace"
>---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------


We have compiles a 200-line file related to this question.  Reply by 
email us to get a copy for you.

As we know 5000 copies were sold, and the publisher was out of stock by 
end of May.  Because we, Universal CD-ROM did quantity purchase and still 
have a limited number of copies in stock, InfoMagic is referring their 
customers to us.

As a general comment from the reseller point of view, InfoMagic is 
comprehesive (2 CDs) and cheap ($19.95 + $3 Shipping) from us.  We even 
commit/run a continus advertisement (once every other day) for it in the 
San Jose Mercury News. 

Think about it, as a professional or CS student can you afford to 
miss this cheap personal Unix at home/desktop ?  While some others are doing.

Charles Liu
Universal CD-ROM

-- 
End of Note

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From: podo@athena.mit.edu (Peter O Orondo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: IFCONFIG ON LINUX
Date: 16 Jun 1994 23:46:31 GMT

I am creating a small network using linux. The linux machine talks to the
internet via SLIP while dos machines [should] talk to the linux machine via
ethernet.

I have Alta Research Combo ethernet card [NE2000 clone], and my slackware 1.2.0
linux sees it at boot time. The problem is that when I do:

#/sbin/ifconfig eth0 <MY_IPADDR> netmask <MY_NETMASK>

I get the error message below:

SIOCSFIFADDR: invalid argument.
SIOCSFNETMASK: Invalid argument.

what do these messages mean? How can I create the eth0 interface without much
pain? 

thanks 


[send me personal e-mail unless you think the answer will benefit someone
else]

peter orondo
cyways, inc             orondo@cyways.com       podo@mit.edu

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: nathan@seldon.foundation.tricon.com (Number 6)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 22:00:11 GMT

In article <Cr8MDB.B5F@molly.uucp> uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) writes:
>James Logajan writes
>> Brandon S. Allbery (bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org) wrote:
>> : mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) says:
>> : | You would be surprised how many people use Unix at work 
>> : | and do not know it.
>> 
>> : *I* wouldn't.  I was amused to note that the POS terminals at 
>> : MicroCenter are Wyse 60series (probably WY160s) terminals, 
>> : and that the POS application is written in Progress...  
>> : Leaves little room for anything *but* Unix, probably SCO.
>> 
>> I seem to recall that either MacDonalds or Burger King (I forget 
>> which) used Xenix on their front counter orderentry systems. 
>> Maybe to get Unix experience, a person should flip burgers :)
>
>Was at CompUSA yesterday evening and  right there in the middle 
>of some Compaqs and other PCs  was a CRT with an AIX login prompt.  
>Somehow I guessed that this wasn't an item of merchandise.  Of course, 
>I tried to login using a few obvious UNIX login/password combinations, 
>but no luck...
>

I know that the Goodguy's, a large California (soon to be Washington
and Oregon) electronics chain uses NCR System Vr4 (4.0.4, if anyone is
curious) for their instore operations and an RS/6000 model 520 at the
corporate offices.  Everyone at corporate (several hundred) is linked
up to the RS/6000 and all the SVr4 machines call in every night to
update the RS/6000's databases.

(I won't tell you how blatantly easy it is to break into the RS/6000,
you probably could have done it at CompUSA.  One thing the Goodguy's
does is uses the internal abbreviation for the store and the store
number for all passwords.  Plus, they have a terrible bug in their POS
software that allows you to get to a shell very easily, then exploit
the unfixed "rlogin" bug that made such a hoot on the Linux and AIX
newsgroups.  I told my friend who works there to *tell MIS
immediately*, it's not something they should leave unfixed.)




***********************************************************************
Nathan D. Lane, VP Triicon Systems. Lompoc, CA   
NaN != 6, 6 == 1.  I am not a number, I am a free list!
I'm a programmer  my computers are more valuable than my cars.

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From: Dan Inman <lasdti@aai.arco.com>
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil and PAS16 SCSI/CDROM: Any successes?
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 19:32:28 GMT

In article <Cr3GG5.AGC@news.arco.com> Dan Inman, lasdti@aai.arco.com
writes:
>      So, my question is, has anyone out there been successful 
> installing/using this driver with one of the standard supported
> CDROMs?

     I'll answer my own question, in the interests of anyone else who 
might be thinking of trying the same type of configuration: Yes!
     Yes, the "experimental" driver works great with this particular
configuration (PAStudio SCSI/Toshiba 3401/486-66VLB/16M). From 
the boot floppy, my setup was auto-recognized and never gave a 
single error or warning throughout the entire process of installing
the Custom option, or when running any of the programs off the
CD. 
     All in all, I would have to say my transition to Linux has been as
utterly painless as could be imagined. I was able to repartition my
IDE drive using FIPS (the latest version off of sunsite.unc.edu), which
took all of about 15 minutes, including my reading the documentation.
The Yggdrasil install process was nice and straightforward, and seems
to need quite a bit less HD space than the manual says, and xinit did a
good job of autoselecting the clocks for my ATI card.  And X screams,
with fvwm (I think) looking enough like Motif that I can stand to wait a
while before laying out more dough!
     Anyway, this is enough use of bandwidth for now. Thanks to everyone
responsible for making this the easiest OS installation and configuration
I've ever encountered (and for helping my machine live up to its
potential).

___
Dan Inman
lasdti@aai.arco.com
dan@saturn.uaamath.alaska.edu
asdti@orion.alaska.edu

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From: jensen@dorothy.as.arizona.edu (Shane Jensen)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 16 Jun 1994 18:35:22 GMT

In article <2tpn22$lr@xivic.bo.open.de>,
Wolfgang Schelongowski <ws@xivic.bo.open.de> wrote:

*snip*
>   {fool file, the}); but many consider large sigs a waste of
>   {bandwidth}, and it has been observed that the size of one's sig
*snip*

Just to waste my share of bandwidth:  If you are all so worried about
bandwidth why didn't you continue this by email?   Your response wasted 
more bandwidth than the .sig, and then posting it to two newsgroups?

Go figure...

shane
--
                 \
                o/\__
               < \__,\
                 "> . |
To go where      `   .-\        Shane Jensen
only lizards have     . |       jensen@dorothy.as.arizona.edu
gone before.          . |
                       .-\
                       .  |
                       .  |
                       .  |

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From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Allen R Sparks)
Subject: Re: Slackware and X11, what gives?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 19:05:29 GMT

>>>>> "K" == Ken Sorensen <ksore@atr-14> writes:

    K> Is this all done to support some strange notions about the file
    K> system standardization? Also, if I'm missing some important
    K> points about the installation, then let me know.

Perhaps you need to reconfigure your partitions.  One of the
disadvantages of partitioning a disk is less flexibility.  I see no
reason to partition a disk, unless
   1. there are two different operating/file systems for each
      partition,
   2. maybe placing user files in a separate partition (/home).

So I guess we can switch your question around.  Did you configure your
disk that way to support some strange notions about file systems?
  === Al

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From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Allen R Sparks)
Subject: Problem with X11 install
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 19:25:03 GMT

I'm having problems.  Way below, I have my included my Xconfig and
also the error when I invoke xinit.  Most of the errors are
informational, it's the last two that confuse me, which I also include
here:

    You must provide a section in Xconfig for at least one of the
    following graphics drivers: 

    Fatal server error:
    No configured graphics devices
    xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unexpected signal 13

Note that it doesn't list the graphics drivers I'm supposed to provide
for, and the last error isn't providing enough info to track down.

My XConfig was taken from X11 library for a CrystalScan (R) 1572FS
monitor, with an ATI Ultra Pro video card with 1MB VRAM.  The
architecture is Mach 32.
   === Al

##########Begin Xconfig########################################################
# Modified by fxars, Allen Sparks, on June 15, '94.

# $Header: /home/x_cvs/mit/server/ddx/x386/Xconfig.cpp,v 1.8 1993/01/24 03:47:46 dawes Exp $
# $XConsortium: Xconfig,v 1.2 91/08/26 14:34:55 gildea Exp $
#
# Copyright 1990,91 by Thomas Roell, Dinkelscherben, Germany.
#
# Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and its
# documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that
# the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both that
# copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting
# documentation, and that the name of Thomas Roell not be used in
# advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without
# specific, written prior permission.  Thomas Roell makes no representations
# about the suitability of this software for any purpose.  It is provided
# "as is" without express or implied warranty.
#
# THOMAS ROELL DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE,
# INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO
# EVENT SHALL THOMAS ROELL BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR
# CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE,
# DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER
# TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR
# PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
#
# Author:  Thomas Roell, roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
# modified by obz for easier linux porting
# Modified by Kevin Fluet (fluet@ee.ualberta.ca) for the Local Bus ATI
#       Graphics Ultra Pro connected to a Gateway 2000 (MAG) Crystal Scan
#       1572 FS         March 22, 1993
# bcr: Modified by Bill C. Riemerss (bcr@physics.purdue.edu) I've merged
# bcr: our Xconfig files.  Both are for the same card and monitor, so
# bcr: which modes you use is just a matter of personal preferance.
#
# some nice paths, to avoid conflicts with other X-servers
#

RGBPath         "/usr/X386/lib/X11/rgb"

#
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#

FontPath        "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath        "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath        "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath        "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath    "/usr/X386/lib/X11/BitstreamType1"

#
# Keyboard and various keyboard-related parameters
#

Keyboard
  AutoRepeat 500 5
  ServerNumLock
  Xleds      1 2 3

#
# To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, 
# RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:
# 

  LeftAlt     Meta
  RightAlt    ModeShift
  RightCtl    Compose
  ScrollLock  ModeLock

#
# Mouse definition and related parameters
#

  Microsoft     "/dev/mouse"
  Emulate3Buttons
  BaudRate 1200

#
# The graphics drivers
# First the 8-bit colour SVGA driver
#

vga256

  Virtual       1152 910
  ViewPort      0 0
#Kevin:  Modes  "1152x910" "1024x768" "800x600"
#bcr:  Modes    "1152X910" "1024X768" "800X600" "640X480" 
  Modes         "1152v910" "1024v768" "800v600"

  Clocks 51 36 126 25 80 65 45 40 135 32 110 80 45 40 75 65

# NB:  These are the actual clocks for the Ultra Pro, not just what X386
# gives you.  They were determined by playing with the ATI install program.

#
# Next the 1-bit mono SVGA driver
#

#vga2

  Virtual       640 480
  ViewPort      0 0
  Modes         "640x480"

#
# The Hercules driver.  For Hercules, the only valid configuration option
# is ScreenNo (refer to the manual page).
#

 hga2

#
# And last,  the database of video modes
#
#       These timings are set up for _my_ LB ATI Graphics Ultra Pro with 2MB
# VRAM installed.  You may need to do some fine tuning due to variations from
# card to card and monitor to monitor.  These _should_ work on a 1MB card
# without too much modification.  Here is a quick and dirty description
# of how to fine tune these timings by modifying the numbers below:
#
# bcr:  No modifications are needed for 1MB VRAM at this time.
#
# name  - Not really a number, just a label.
# clock - Increase to reduce flicker at higher resolutions.
#         You will have to readjust everything if you change this.
# bcr: Higher clock speeds means less flickering.  However too high
# bcr: of a clock speed means you won't be able to use your full 
# bcr: screen.
#
# horizontal timing -- all numbers are multiples of 8
# 1st   - The width of the display (in pixels) -- don't change this
# 2nd,3rd - Increase (the same amount) to move display left.
#           Decrease (the same amount) to move display right.
# bcr: X3 just seems to have random effects
# 4th   - Increase to make display narrower.
#       - Decrease to make display wider.
#
# vertical timing  -- numbers do _not_ have to be multiples of 8.
# 1st   - The depth of the display (in pixels) -- don't change this.
# 2nd,3rd - Increase (the same amount) to move display up.
#           Decrease (the same amount) to move display down.
# bcr: Y3 just seems to have random effects
# 4th   - Increase to make display deeper (taller).    
#       - Decrease to make display more shallow (shorter).
#
#                                       -- Kevin  (fluet@ee.ualberta.ca)
# bcr:
# bcr: I strongly recommend using vgaset.  (Found on sunsite.unc.edu.)
# bcr: Any mode with a verticle frequency of about 60Hz or greater should
# bcr: appear completely flicker-free.
# bcr:
# bcr:                                  Bill 
ModeDB

#   name        clock   horizontal timing       vertical timing         flags
# bcr: "sample" CC      X1   X2   X3   X4       Y1   Y2   Y3   Y4
# bcr: I now use the following flicker-free modes.  (found with vgaset)
 "800v600"      51       800  800 1000 1000      600  600  606  616
 "1024v768"     65      1024 1024 1264 1264      768  770  788  792    
 "1152v910"     80      1152 1176 1424 1424      910  910  924  936
# bcr: These are Kevin's modes.
# "800x600"      65       800  824  944 1032      600  600  606  624
# "1024x768"     75      1024 1048 1184 1288      768  773  777  806
# "1152x910"     80      1152 1176 1272 1432      910  920  930  950
# bcr: These are the modes I used to use. (found by experimentation)
# "640X480"      40       640  664 9999  824      480  480    0  520
# "800X600"      40       800  824 9999  984      600  640    0  737
#                51       800  824 9999 1024      600  601    0  655
# "1024X768"     65      1024 1048 9999 1288      768  775    0  843  
#                75      1024 1048 9999 1288      768  768    0  830  
# "1152X910"     80      1152 1176 9999 1424      910  925    0 1015
#######End Xconfig#############################################################

####Begin Error Log############################################################
XFree86 Version 2.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
Operating System: Linux 
Configured drivers:
  Mach32: accelerated server for ATI Mach32 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
(using VT number 7)

Xconfig: /usr/X386/lib/X11/Xconfig
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200,
       3 button emulation
Warning: The directory "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
         Entry deleted from font path.
Warning: The directory "/usr/X386/lib/X11/BitstreamType1" does not exist.
         Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"

You must provide a section in Xconfig for at least one of the
following graphics drivers: 

Fatal server error:
No configured graphics devices
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unexpected signal 13

####End Error Log##############################################################

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From: tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt)
Subject: Font problems with auis63L0 packages
Date: 16 Jun 1994 16:52:30 -0500

I've seen comments now and then that the fonts for AUIS applications are
ugly.  Recently I have discovered in some cases its because the person
did not have all the X server fonts available.  In my Xconfig file I have:

    FontPath    "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath    "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath    "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath    "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

The problem occurs when a user selects "Bigger".  AUIS asks the
X-server to scale the fonts dynamically and sometimes this does not work
out very well.  It will be very much better if you install a wide range of
fonts.  Fewer fonts can work, but aren't always so nice looking.

===================================================================
Software Toolsmiths      Terry Gliedt   (507) 356-4710   tpg@mr.net

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From: wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: Emerald Qic-2 tape adapter
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 00:40:27 GMT

I bought a used tape backup unit based on a TEAC mechanism. The tapes look almost
like audio tapes except for a few extra notches. I believe the type is called
"DC6000" Note these are not the common rather large DC600 tape cart.

I have DOS software for the drive, but i would like to use it under Linux.
With an Archive VP402 controller attached, it workds under linux. However, I would
like to use the controller that came with it. It has jumpers for the the io address,

but the IRQ and DMA are set in software. I'd like some hints on the
"Emerald Qic-2" card.

-- 
Clarence Wilkerson      \ Bitnet:       wilker%math.purdue.edu@purccvm
Prof. of Math. (topology)\ Internet:    wilker@math.purdue.edu
Dept. of Mathematics      \ messages:   (317) 494-1903, FAX 494-0548
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