Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #275
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Date:     Thu, 16 Jun 94 17:13:15 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #275, Volume #2                Thu, 16 Jun 94 17:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Fast Ethernet Adapter (Dave Roberts)
  anybody have tkWWW? (Brian McBee)
  Re: ADVICE: InfoMagic CD distribution (Brian Stoler)
  Thanks a lot, documenters! (Sverre H. Huseby)
  fdisk and scsi disks (Edunetics)
  Re: PCI Chipsets? URGENT! (Joseph Anderson)
  Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ? (Peter Pflaeging)
  Linux Bibliography (Daniel Tauber)
  Re: Only 7000 Linux boxes, Re: Multiport Bored ... (Alan Cox)
  What does the "time" command report (and what doesn't it) ? (Mihail S. Iotov)
  Re: NEC cdrom audio player? (Steve DuChene)
  Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows (Cyrill Vatomsky)
  TERM and FTPD  (ddelsig@uoft02.utoledo.edu)
  Re: Adaptec 2740W driver yet? (Robert King)
  QIC-02 controller? (Paul Tomblin)
  X11 Yggdrasil Summer '94 ?? (Burton Bicksler)
  Linux ver 1.0 on an IBM Valuepoint computer? (Kaushik Banerjee)
  Enhanced IDE Drives and Linux (Juan Carlos Perez)
  Re: Anybody has Xconfig for a Viewsonic 20 or 21 monitor? (David Fox)
  Yggdrasil Summer Release--Is it worth it? (Maxim Spivak)
  Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows (Brandon S. Allbery)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: roberts@angelo.amd.com (Dave Roberts)
Subject: Re: Fast Ethernet Adapter
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:45:43 GMT

In article <1994Jun15.162818.6671@uk.ac.swan.pyr>,
Alan Cox <iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr> wrote:
>In article <1994Jun15.134008.24667@cm.cf.ac.uk> paul@myrddin.isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul) writes:
>>There are two significant measurements, the amount of CPU time a card takes
>>to send a packet and the mamximum throughput.
>You missed the third - the maximum latency of response it can tolerate and
>the fourth - the amount of 'down time' between sends and between receives.
>
>>bus-mastering DMA to get the packets straight into main memory. The Allied
>>Telesis AT1500 is one, the NE2100 is another. There are lots more and AMD
>>who produce the LANCE have isa/vlbus/pci versions of the lance as well.
>
>The lance cards are nice.

Just a quibble, but... :-) Most any card that you buy today that is
NE2100 or NE1500 compatible won't have a true LANCE on it.  Instead,
they'll all have one of AMD's newer PCnet family of chips.  The PCnet
family implements a hardware architecture devised for the original
NE2100 board, which used a LANCE.  In other words, from software's
persective, they look like a LANCE on steroids (lost of additional
registers) but there isn't a LANCE on the board nor in the chip
(totally new Ethernet core designed to be software compatible).  They
also perform like a LANCE on steroids.  The PCnet family has many
performance optimizations that make them much faster than the original
NE2100 board, even in the ISA version.  Of course, the VL and PCI
versions are screamers.  All versions are bus masters for high
performance and low CPU utilization.

An of course, since they are all very highly integrated, they are very
inexpensive for their performance rating.  They typically sell close
to NE2000 compatible boards in price (i.e., low) and perform much
better (e.g., about the same as the Etherlink III).

>>There can be problems with these cards if you have lots of bus-mastering
>>DMA controllers on your ISA bus because it is estimated that running
>>at FULL ethernet bandwidth the LANCE will use a minimum of 22% of the ISA's
>>bandwidth. Depending on the driver software this could go higher. Most of the
>>time though you're not likely to be driving the card that hard.
>
>Well with an AHA1542 SCSi controller on the same bus its just fine. I guess thats
>about the heaviest load to worry about 8).

You can have a problem with multiple ISA Ethernet cards in a server.
But that's a fact of life.  This problem isn't limited to bus
mastering cards, though they generally surface the problem sooner.
Generally, 4 Ethernet cards are all you can do without causing FIFO
overruns and underruns.  Non-bus master cards typically have larger
on-card buffers (with the consequent added cost) so they can sustain
the high load for a little bit longer but they will also eventually see
problems.  A single SCSI card won't give you any problems ;-).

Dave Roberts
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
I/O and Network Products Division
david.roberts@amd.com


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From: brian@odot_aix2.isb.odot.state.or.us (Brian McBee)
Subject: anybody have tkWWW?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 15:14:53 GMT

I'm looking for a copy of tkWWW for linux. Does anybody have this 
compiled?

brian@odot_aix2.isb.odot.state.or.us

-- 
       Finger me for my PGP public key. Plan globally, attack locally.


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From: sto2@netaxs.com (Brian Stoler)
Subject: Re: ADVICE: InfoMagic CD distribution
Date: 16 Jun 1994 14:55:18 GMT

Robert King (robking@actrix.gen.nz) wrote:

: Does anyone have any experience with the InfoMagic distributionn of 
: Linux?  That and the Yggdrasil distribution are the only ones that I've 
: found here in New Zealand.

I have the newest InfoMagic 2 CD set and am very pleased with it .. A 
CD-dependant installation is not available on it, but IMHO CD-dependant 
is too slow..and plus InfoMagic has a full sunsite.unc.edu and 
tsx-11.mit.edu and prep.ai.mit.edu [GNU s/w] mirro on the disks.. and fro 
$20, what a deal!

--

- Brian Stoler
- sto2@netaxs.com

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From: sverrehu@ifi.uio.no (Sverre H. Huseby)
Subject: Thanks a lot, documenters!
Date: 16 Jun 1994 16:34:45 +0200


To add some more noise to this group:

I suddenly felt extremely grateful to all you creators
and maintainers of HOWTOs, FAQs, LDP-docs and other info-
material regarding Linux. Thank you, thanks a lot!


Sverre.

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Sverre H. Huseby                                    Student
sverrehu@ifi.uio.no              University of Oslo, Norway
http://www.ifi.uio.no/~sverrehu

My employer (that's me) is not responsible for my opinions.


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From: edunet@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Edunetics)
Subject: fdisk and scsi disks
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:40:47 GMT


    Hello
        I have a proble installing Linux on a new computer. The problem
is that the disk is a scsi and when I run fdisk, just after the ramdisk
finished mounting it replies: can't open /dev/hda. I tried giving the
parameter /dev/sda (which is supposed to be the scsi device) but with no
luck. All this happens to me with Slackware 1.2.0. Any solutions for this???

        Paolo

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: janders@en407c.cheng.okstate.edu (Joseph Anderson)
Subject: Re: PCI Chipsets? URGENT!
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:19:04 GMT

In article <2toc36$bbp@jake.esu.edu>, Akihiko Nakashima <aki@esu.edu> wrote:
(with minor bandwidth reducing snipping)
>Paul (paul@myrddin.isl.cf.ac.uk) wrote:
>: In article <CrCt3w.Gp4@newsflash.concordia.ca>,
>: Paul Quinn <p_quinn@ECE.Concordia.CA> wrote:
>: >
>: >I need to know the exact differences between the Saturn and the Neptune
>: >chipsets?  Is the Saturn really buggy?  What are the major problems
>: >with it?  If I can only get a Saturn, should I still buy PCI?
>
>: Terry Lambert gave me this, I doubt he'll mind me porting it.
>
>: Saturn          Original.  Broken cache coherency model; results in either
>
>: Mercury         Fixed.  Working cache coherency model.  Will *not* maintain
>
>: Neptune         Fixed (SMP version).  Working cache coherency model,
>
>Hi! I just learned about this stuff...  Since I am looking to buy a new
>PCI machine (P90?), does anybody know who sells this?
>
>Does Gateway2000, Dell, Compac, or Micron sell PCs with this matherboard?
>
>Thank you very much.
>
>-Aki
>

The machine I bought from Gateway (P590) comes with the Neptune chipset
according to their technical service department.  If it hadn't, I would
have canceled the order immediately.  I am still waiting for the machine
as Gateway apparently is backlogged.  Included with this system is an 
ATI Mach 32 PCI card with 2 megs DRAM.  I didn't opt for the VRAM card
as I believe it was Mach 64 based and not supported by XFree.  I'll 
follow this up when I do receive the machine sometime next week.

Joseph

-- 

Joseph Anderson - Traveller, Navigator, Mapper, and Chemical Engineer.

Email: janders@master.ceat.okstate.edu

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From: pfp@aeneas.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,biz.sco.general,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 18:21:44 GMT


1) Which OS are you running 
        I'm running BSD/386 (from BSDI) & NeXTSTEP 3.2
2) Are you using native or aha1540 drivers 
        BSDI -> builtin Adaptec compatible driver support..
        NeXTSTEP -> native BusLogic BT545 driver (Betatest from a
        Czech firm)
3) What is the firmware revision of your card
        3.37/4.70 (I don't know which's firmware/bios)
4) What SCSI drives are you using 
        3x Quantum PRO, 1x WREN III, 1x Apple PowerCD, 1x Tecmar streamer
5) What kind of  system/motherboard are you using
        AMI/SiS EISA/VLB 486DX2/66

-peter

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From: dat@netcom.com (Daniel Tauber)
Subject: Linux Bibliography
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:31:33 GMT

I'm putting together a bibliography of magazine articles about Linux. If
every could send me citations that they know about (article name, author
name, magazine name, issue date/number, page number) I'll post the results.

Thanks

Dan



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From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Only 7000 Linux boxes, Re: Multiport Bored ...
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:09:20 GMT

In article <1994Jun14.035515.3041@truffula.sj.ca.us> cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:
>As far as I can tell, the *ONLY* reason we have not already developed,
>tested, documented, released, and field-supported performance-optimized
>Linux drivers is that the best data we can get say there are less than
>7000 actual Linux systems in use!  That data is from the Linux Counter
>project which is announced now and then in comp.os.linux.announce.
>We can't spend tens of thousands of US dollars and divert critical
>personnel based on a survey in a German magazine, or newsgroup Arbitron
>ratings, which suggest the numbers might be higher.
>(Or at least that's what the product managers tell me.)
>
If you make sure the relevant specs are available, the boards sensibly priced
and the Linux people know the board specs are available and complete all you
should need to do is wait.

Alan


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From: iotov@cco.caltech.edu (Mihail S. Iotov)
Subject: What does the "time" command report (and what doesn't it) ?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 15:03:48 GMT

Here is the output of the command `time cat somefile'


0.00user 0.39system 0:07.33elapsed 5%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+0minor)pagefaults 0swaps                       

That's great. I finally understood what these funny numbers after time mean.
The question is why are they all zeroes ?


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From: s0017210@cc.ysu.edu (Steve DuChene)
Subject: Re: NEC cdrom audio player?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 05:12:13 GMT

Danny Vezeau (spice@bmerha2f.bnr.ca) wrote:

: -- 
: Danny Vezeau    | Bell-Northern Research | Of course, opinions expressed 
: spice@bnr.ca    | Ottawa, Canada         | are my own
: ESN 393-7908

        Yes! No? Maybe!  (Sorry couldn't resist, hehe  :-)    )
-- 
| sduchene@cis.ysu.edu  or  s0017210@cc.ysu.edu  Steven A. DuChene  
| Youngstown State University  | Computer Science / Math / Mech. Eng.
|They all laughed at Albert Einstein. They all laughed at Columbus. 
|Unfortunately, they also all laughed at Bozo the Clown. 

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From: cyrillv@netcom.com (Cyrill Vatomsky)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:53:05 GMT

Robert Bruce Prior (robp@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote:

: Question to all of you who have tried downloading the Demo WP from 
: ftp.wordperfect.com and running it on your faithful Linux box...

: When I start the demo from the stock demo shell script, I get the error
: (in it's own box, titled "Error (1)"), "Could not create a new process --"
: with an "OK" box at the bottom.  Clicking on OK returns me to WP with no 
: problems, and the program runs *great* after that, but I am still left 
: wondering what it is trying to do that it can't... And if it could be a 
: problem with my system?

I do not have this proble, WP starts without a glitch but the screen is
filled with garbage. How did you go about  those corrupt fonts?

: I am running Linux 1.1.18 and the ibcs emulator dated 940526 (might not be 
: 26, it was the last one there from may, tho).  I did a 'make config' in 
I am running Linux 1.1.19 with iBCS dated 940614 (or close)
-- 

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From: ddelsig@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Subject: TERM and FTPD 
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 04:54:24 GMT

Howdy all!

     I've gotten term to work pretty well on my box, but I've not been able
to handle incoming FTP requests.  What do I have to do to get things going
properly?  I've redirected a port on the remote end to my local ftp port, and
am able to connect and login remotely, but when I try 'ls' or 'dir', etc, I get 
a "data connection failed: network unreachable" message, or something like 
that.  Is there a special trick to get things up and running, or do I need
a patched daemon?

Thanks for any help...

Dave

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From: king@khis.com (Robert King)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2740W driver yet?
Reply-To: king@khis.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 22:35:05 GMT

In article de6@bronze.coil.com, bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block) writes:
>Has anyone made a Adaptec AHA-2740/AHA-2740W driver yet?
>

How about AHA-2840VL or AHA-2842VL?


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+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Robert A. King                |                                       |
| Systems Software Engineer     |                                       |
| Kodak Health Imaging Systems  |    "I drank WHAT?!?" -- Socrates      |
|                               |                                       |
| king@khan.khis.com            |                                       |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| The opinions expressed here arn't even mine, much less my employer's! |
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From: pt@gandalf.ca (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: QIC-02 controller?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 15:27:42 -0400
Reply-To: ptomblin@gandalf.ca

I just did a swap of some unused tape drives here for a tape controller -
hoping to be able to use some of the other tape drives here.  The tape
controller is labelled "QIC-02 Tape Host Adaptor" and at another point it's
labelled "CTS 026-256f".  Is this a supported tape controller?  It's
obviously not an Archive SC402, which is one that I'm using already.  If it
is supported, what do I put in tpqic02.h?

I wanted to hook this up to an Archive 2150L tape drive (of which I have
several), but the connector on the back is different too.  It has a pin block
connected via a removable ribbon cable to what looks like a db connector,
except it is rectangular.  It has 50 pins.  Can I just get rid of that ribbon
cable, and replace it with one that goes to a 50 pin edge connector instead?


-- 
Paul Tomblin, Head - Automation Design Group.
Gandalf Canada Limited
This is not an official statement of Gandalf, or of Vicki Robinson.
"Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as Linux"

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From: bbick@netcom.com (Burton Bicksler)
Subject: X11 Yggdrasil Summer '94 ??
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 19:09:21 GMT

Hi,

I have a Linux system set up on a 25Mhz Dell Motherboard that has an on 
board Western Digital VGA Chipset.  It is one of the supported ones, but 
I don't have the number in front of me.  I have also tried this with an 
ATI Graphics ULTRA with the same results.

Using my old Nec 2A monitor and specifying standard_vga in the xinit the 
monitor is placed in the incorrect scan rate as soon as X starts up.  
Running this on my 17" Tatung all is well with the world.  I have another 
Tatung 15" that is temporarily down for the count, so I am using my 
emergency spare, the NEC.

Would forcing the "clocks" during initialization resolve this issue?  Has 
anyone else out there used a NEC 2A?

Thanks,

-- 
                                             bbick@netcom.com

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From: kbanerje@grad09.math.ncsu.edu (Kaushik Banerjee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Linux ver 1.0 on an IBM Valuepoint computer?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 20:10:01 GMT

Thanks

K Banerjee


-- 
e-mail: KBANERJE@VNET.IBM.COM
        kbanerje@math.ncsu.edu

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From: juan@fiu.edu (Juan Carlos Perez)
Subject: Enhanced IDE Drives and Linux
Date: 16 Jun 1994 20:18:14 GMT

I posted this question in the wrong newsgroup by mistake.         

Does anyone know if Linux works with Enhanced IDE hard drives (1 Gig and PCI)?
Thanks...

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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Anybody has Xconfig for a Viewsonic 20 or 21 monitor?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 03:49:02 GMT

In article <CrGot6.As1@mercury.wright.edu> salrafee@discover.wright.edu (Sulaiman Al-Rafee) writes:

] I looked through the modes.db file and the largest viewonic monitor I
] found was a 17".  

The Viewsonic 17" and 20" have the same specs, hence the same Xconfig.
--
David Fox                                               xoF divaD
NYU Media Research Lab                     baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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From: maxims@uclink.berkeley.edu (Maxim Spivak)
Subject: Yggdrasil Summer Release--Is it worth it?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 20:02:05 GMT


Hello!

I'm about to upgrade/reinstall Linux again, and I would like to get some 
feedback on the Yggdrasil Summer Release distribution. I've always before 
used Slackware (both the ftp-able floppy and TransAmeritech CDROM 
distribution) but would like to try something else. 

The Yggdrasil Summer Release looks extremely interesting, but have any of 
you used it? Do you like it? What is it missing? How is the installation? 
Is it up to date? 

The other question is about the Linux Bible: is it worth $40 or is it 
just all the FAQ's in a nice format? In other words, should I by it or 
just ftp stuff off the net? Is there an index?

Thanks for the info. If there are enough responses I'll post a summary.

Max

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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect for X-Windows
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 04:18:30 GMT

In article <CrGorM.96z@cee.hw.ac.uk>, phyjab1@phyd4c4.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Jonathan A Buzzard) says:
+---------------
| Well the R.R.P  for all WordPerfect apps is the same across all platforms,
| so in short no more than for MS-DOG or MS-Windoze. However inreality you 
| will probably pay a little extra because there is not the same discounting
| on the Unix version as there is on the other versions.
+------------->8

Single-user Unix versions are often sold at cost (not at list!) because the
vendors expect to profit on additional-user license sales.  This can make
single-user Unix versions quite competitive with the street price of the DOS
version.

++Brandon
-- 
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Friends don't let friends load Windows NT.

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