Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #268
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Date:     Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:13:23 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #268, Volume #2                Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:13:23 EDT

Contents:
  PCI grpahics cards: ATI vs. #9 (Paul Quinn)
  Re: telnetting to non-standard ports (Steve Brown)
  NEC cdrom audio player? (Danny Vezeau)
  Looking for a audio CD player (Danny Vezeau)
  PPP and Slackware (Roy Hann)
  Re: future of Unixware (Beverly J. Brown)
  Re: Linux stable enough for commercial products yet? (Beverly J. Brown)
  Re: Chain booting Linux? (Beverly J. Brown)
  Re: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware) (Jim Vlcek)
  Re: Clean eXit from X possible? (Romano Giannetti)
  Help installing PAS under Linux (BRIAN KEITH PIPA)
  Linux Projects-FAQ (Harald Milz)
  Re: I'm in LOVE ... with Linux (Andreas Burmester)
  Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ? (Pim Zandbergen)
  Re: E-mail address for Yggdrasil please (John Mills)
  VP/ix for Linux? (Peter Knirsch)
  QIC tape drives (Peter Backhouse)
  NFS Problems (System Administrator)
  Re: Novell - More News (Linus Torvalds)

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From: p_quinn@ECE.Concordia.CA (Paul Quinn)
Subject: PCI grpahics cards: ATI vs. #9
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 02:34:34 GMT


I just bought a PCI m/b.  I need a graphics card to supports both X and OS/2.

The ATI and the #9 seem to fit.  Can anyone tell me how well these cards work
for them with X and Linux?  Can you recommend any others?


--
________
Paul Quinn
p_quinn@ece.concordia.ca
Computer Science: Systems Architecture
Concordia University
Montreal, QC, CANADA
========

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From: steve@unicorn.dungeon.com (Steve Brown)
Subject: Re: telnetting to non-standard ports
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 20:52:58 GMT

Nicholas Hall (nrh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) wrote:

: If this is a faq could somebody direct me to it .... if not, has anyone any
: ideas?  Do I have to change /etc/services ?

You will have to change /etc/services and inetd.conf ( I forget where that
is, probably /etc also :) ), then you will need to kill inetd and restart
it, or send it the HUP signal. Thats what I've always done when using
non-standard ports. Follow the others in both /etc files :)

Steve.

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From: spice@bmerha2f.bnr.ca (Danny Vezeau)
Subject: NEC cdrom audio player?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 04:55:53 GMT


-- 
Danny Vezeau    | Bell-Northern Research | Of course, opinions expressed 
spice@bnr.ca    | Ottawa, Canada         | are my own
ESN 393-7908

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From: spice@bmerha2f.bnr.ca (Danny Vezeau)
Subject: Looking for a audio CD player
Date: 15 Jun 1994 05:19:35 GMT

Hi,

I'm trying to find a CD audio player that will play
CDs off my NEC CDR-73 with Trantor T128 (scsi1) adapter.

I've tried using workman 1.0 to do this but the program
always reports no CD present in the drive.

I've also grabbed (from tsx-1)1 sources for another program
called xcdplayer... 
 xcdplay-src.tar.gz
 xcdplayer-NEC.tar.gz

but I can't get it to compile...thats probably due
to my ignorance of how to use imake..(never used it before)
There is a IMakefile and I suppose I have to use imake on it
to produce the executable.
I've applied the patch contained in xcdplayer-NEC 
and typed imake and got the error message:

:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory
imake: Exit code 33.  Stop.

Can somone tell me how to use imake or point me
to another program taht will play my audio CDs?
-- 
Danny Vezeau    | Bell-Northern Research | Of course, opinions expressed 
spice@bnr.ca    | Ottawa, Canada         | are my own
ESN 393-7908

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From: rhh@tachy.uah.ualberta.ca (Roy Hann)
Subject: PPP and Slackware
Date: 15 Jun 1994 05:38:56 GMT

I just installed the Slackware version of Linux last week, and tonight
I got around to trying to set up PPP.  I do not seem to be able to 
get `pppd' to behave as advertised.  The README file recommends 
running:

   pppd debug x.x.x.x:y.y.y.y

and observing the resulting trash, just to prove the thing does 
SOMETHING.  Unfortunately, as far as I can tell it just "goes away."
Is there someone out there who has done it, who wouldn't mind 
leading me tenderly by the nose through this process?

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From: bjb@shore.net (Beverly J. Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 15 Jun 1994 02:56:28 -0400
Reply-To: bjb@shore.net

In article <2tgi0i$icr@Venus.mcs.com>, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
> In article <Dr6vC5.CIr@pe1chl.ampr.org>, Rob Janssen <pe1chl@rabo.nl> wrote:
> >In <Cr5zEF.Ltx@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
> >
> >Why would you ever want to have >96 RS232 ports on a Unix box??
> 
> A bunch of modems, some printers sprinkled around the building, some
> inbound wire services, a couple of satellite uplinks. 96 sounds
> about right to me...

On one UNIX box?!?!?!?! Wouldn't you get better throughtput if you scattered 
them on different machines?


Beverly J. Brown
bjb@shore.net
beverly@datacube.com

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From: bjb@shore.net (Beverly J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Linux stable enough for commercial products yet?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 02:56:32 -0400
Reply-To: bjb@shore.net

In article <CrC96G.7qs@sci.kun.nl>, Mark van Hoeij wrote:
> In <CrAp1s.M20@rahul.net> alte@rahul.net (Charles Liu) writes:
> 
> 
> >Per Section 1.7.4, page 21, the recently published The Linux Bible: "As 
> >far as stability and robustness are concerned, many users have reported 
> >that Linux is at least as stable as commercial UNIX systems."
> 
> It's much more stable than AIX (is that a compliment?).
> 


Or Solaris.


Beverly J. Brown
bjb@shore.net
beverly@datacube.com

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From: bjb@shore.net (Beverly J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Chain booting Linux?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 02:56:33 -0400
Reply-To: bjb@shore.net

> badelsman@aol.com (BAdelsman) writes:
> 
> >I have Linux installed on the third disk in my system (I have 2 IDE,
> >1 SCSI).  OS/2 boot manager can only do boots from the first two
> >disks, hence it won't boot Linux.

Boot Manager can boot from the second drive? My husband tried it once and 
couldn't get it to work. Any pointers?



Beverly J. Brown
bjb@shore.net
beverly@datacube.com

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek)
Subject: Re: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware)
Reply-To: uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 02:17:55 GMT

Brandon S. Allbery writes
> Joe Portman has Oracle 6 running under iBCS2 emulation; I have Unify 2000
> running; various others have Informix-SE running, and Informix-Online 
> should work once Linux IPC has been rewritten to fix various problems with 
> the message queue interface (among others).

What does "running" mean?

Can you give more details on these installations?  What are the  
installations, and how large are the databases involved?  How many users?   
How many transactions per second?

-- 
Jim Vlcek                         Elements of the information superhighway:
uunet!molly!vlcek                                        UNIX: the concrete
molly!vlcek@uunet.uu.net                             TCP/IP: the road signs
Beautiful downtown St. Paul                   Windows: the fast-food joints

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From: romano@pimac2.iet.unipi.it (Romano Giannetti)
Subject: Re: Clean eXit from X possible?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 09:25:24 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc, Bogdan Urma (bogdan@crl.com) wrote:
>    Is there any way to have a clear screen after exiting X. Like
> some way to automatically issue the 'clear' command as soon as X is done?

I don't tryied it, but I think adding 'clear' after the 'xinit? line
in startx script will do. 

Bye
        Romano

--
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Romano Giannetti        * DII-EIT, University of Pisa(E stands for Electronics)
romano@iet.unipi.it     * Dpto Electr. y Electronica, Facultad de Fisica
                        * Universidad Complutense de Madrid
*******************************************************************************

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From: bkpipa@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN KEITH PIPA)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Help installing PAS under Linux
Date: 14 Jun 1994 23:23:58 GMT
Reply-To: bkpipa@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN KEITH PIPA)



I am running Linux and have been trying to get the PAS to work with it. I tried
recompiling the kernal and it almost worked. When I installed the PAS
under DOS it worked. I used the same DMA and IRQ settings during the configurati
on
for the Linux kernal. It asked about 5 different cards - what am I supposed
to answer for cards I don't have? I put in the PAS IRQ and DMA and I put
the IRQ and DMA dfor the SB emulation.

When I compiled it seemed to work, but when I froze after saying this:


snd3 <Pro Audio Spectrum 16d rev 191> at 0x388 IRQ 7 DRQ 3
snd2 <Sound Blaster 2.0> at 0x220 IRQ 5 DRQ 1
snd6 <Souind Blaster 16 2.0> at 0x220 IRQ 5 DRQ 6


The IRQ and DMA for the PAS under DOS was set at 7 and 3 and
the IRQ and DMA for the SB emulation was 5 and 1


Anyone been through this before?
Please help!!!

Thanks!
Brian


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Linux Projects-FAQ
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 07:46:21 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de


As many users keep asking questions "who is working on
this and that" and "when and where is it going to be
available" every other day, I'll start the "Linux Projects
FAQ". Developers are invited to send me the status of
the project(s) they are working on, and I'll put it on
sunsite.unc.edu in the /pub/Linux/docs/faqs directory.
I'll post a reference to the FAQ in c.o.l.a (and
c.o.l.misc ?) once a week because many sites won't keep
their news longer than that. 

This is intended to reduce the overall traffic in those
newsgroups and rumours concerning those projects.  At last,
only such projects which are not yet in ALPHA are subject to
this FAQ. If code is available publicly, the project will
remain in the FAQ for a couple of weeks, stating where to
look for it, then vanish. The document will contain a smart
hint please not to flood the developers' mailboxes with
requests and queries. The FAQ will be up-to-date on a weekly
basis. Maybe I'll have to send queries to developers to keep
the beast up-to-date ;)

As a proposal, here's the header and a sample entry for this
FAQ. It is quite similar to the LSM template as of
05SEP93. Developers are asked to send me additional wishes
and flames.

============================= snip =============================

                  Linux Projects-FAQ

This is the Projects-FAQ for Linux. It contains some data
concerning popular projects that are currently in the design
or coding stage. Code for these projects is not publicly
available yet. However, the software is being worked on and
will be eventually available. Please DO NOT send tons of
questions to the developers but instead let them spend their
time on working on the project. This FAQ is updated on a
weekly basis and available on sunsite.unc.edu in the
/pub/Linux/docs/faqs directory.

New developers are invited to send me entries according to
the template shown below. The field "AuthorEmail" is
optional; if you don't believe people will leave you alone
simply leave it empty. 

This FAQ is for non-commercial Linux projects only. 

Sample entry (similar to an LSM entry):

Field:len          Description
===========        ======================================================
Title:40           The name of the package.  example: "NCR 53C810 SCSI driver"
Desc1:80           5 lines of text describing the package's function or purpose
Desc2:80           The more descriptive you are the more useful the entry 
Desc3:80           will be
Desc4:80
Desc5:80
Author:65          Who is going to write the package.
AuthorEmail:40     The author's email address (optional)
InfoSources1:80    Some hints where to get additional information such as 
InfoSources2:80    mailing lists or local newsgroups
InfoSources3:80
Assistance:40      assistance seeked? {required | appreciated | not required }
CurrentStat:80     {still in the design phase | first code runs | approaching 
                    ALPHA status | in ALPHA | code is available on (FTP path)}
ETA:40             Estimated time of arrival (optional & conservative ;) 
Remarks1:80        Other info of value (up to the developer), 5 lines
Remarks2:80
Remarks3:80
Remarks4:80
Remarks5:80

============================= snip =============================

Waiting for your entries, suggestions and thoughts ...

-- 
Harald Milz                             office: hm@ix.de
iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      home:   hm@seneca.ix.de
Opinions are mine, not my employer's -- the answer is Forty-two


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From: buster@isys-hh.Hanse.DE (Andreas Burmester)
Subject: Re: I'm in LOVE ... with Linux
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 23:30:46 GMT

cjcason@yarrow.wt.uwa.edu.au (Christopher Cason) writes:

>I've finally got Linux up ... thanks to yggdrasil's CD-ROM.

>I'm in LOVE. ahhh, the pleasure of finally running a real OS at home, and X !

Now wait for a while - it's just like in real life: your first love won't
last forever. Eventually you'll discover more reliable and compliant (with
X/OPEN & Posix) operating systems.

Whatsoever - it's for free, so enjoy it.

>can anyone tell me if a file system created with, say, FREEBSD or SCO can be
>read by Linux ? say I have an external HDD which I want to carry to a SCO
>machine ??? (or vice-versa.)

>regards,

>-- Chris

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,biz.sco.general,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
From: pim@cti-software.nl (Pim Zandbergen)
Subject: Re: Anyone using a BusLogic 747S with multiple disk drives ?
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 09:32:16 GMT

I wrote:

>To help me out of this situation, I would like to know of anyone
>using the 747S with multiple drives

>       1) Which OS are you running
>       2) Are you using native or aha1540 drivers
>       3) What is the firmware revision of your card
>       4) What SCSI drives are you using
>       5) What kind of system/motherboard are you using

>The firmware on my cards is revision 1.37.

Sorry about this, the firmware revision is of course 3.37.
If it matters, the BIOS is revision 4.70 and the card
itself is revision A1.
-- 
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S-mail : Laan Copes van Cattenburch 70, 2585 GD The Hague, The Netherlands
Phone  : +31 70 3542302
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From: jmi@csd.cri.dk (John Mills)
Subject: Re: E-mail address for Yggdrasil please
Reply-To: jmi@csd.cri.dk
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 09:59:25 GMT

In article 145@cedar.mr.net,  tpg@trillian.mr.net (Terry Gliedt) writes:
> I'd like to contact someone at Yggdrasil.  Would someone from there
> contact me directly or others provide an e-mail address.  Thanks
> ===================================================================
> Software Toolsmiths      Terry Gliedt   (507) 356-4710   tpg@mr.net

Try sending an e-mail to adam@yggdrasil.com it will get there and you MIGHT
get a reply!....

I have found it is better to phone/fax yggdrasil...

Your mileage may vary!



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From: knirsch@dspaul7.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Knirsch)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: VP/ix for Linux?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 10:53:43 GMT

Hello,

has anybody ported the 386/ix DOS-emulator called "VP/ix" from
INTERACTIVE/Phoenix to LINUX?

VP/ix is not public domain software, but it is - compared with dosemu
- a realy nice DOS-emulator.

Peter (knirsch@informatik.tu-muenchen.de)


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From: pbackhou@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Peter Backhouse)
Subject: QIC tape drives
Date: 15 Jun 1994 05:06:26 -0600

I need some info on tape drives to use with Linux.
(yes I have read the HOWTO). I have access to a large
number of DC6150 (150Mb) and DC 300 XL/P tapes. I
have an IDE hard drive, but will soon be using SCSI.
Is there a 'best' drive that I could buy, taking this
into account? 

Thanks for any info,

Pete.

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From: root@igwe1.vub.ac.be (System Administrator)
Subject: NFS Problems
Date: 15 Jun 1994 00:01:47 GMT

I have a severe problem, and I think NFS deamon causes
it.
The situation is the following:
        The board members of our support group all have their
        home directories on a harddisk on my Linuxbox.
        This disk is also mounted on another Linuxbox, so the
        members have the same homedirs on two different servers.
        When somebody is logged in on the other Linuxbox (that
        is not the one wih the homedirs harddisk), my Linuxbox
        sometime just hangs, so I have to reboot.
        This happens at random times, but only when someone uses
        the homedirs on the harddisk in my machine from the
        other one.
Can this be fixed or is it hopeless (I hope it isn't, cause the
boardmembers and I don't like it if they suddenly have to wait
for a filecheck)

Jeroen

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From: torvalds@cc.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Re: Novell - More News
Date: 15 Jun 1994 14:23:51 +0300

Oops.  I probably shouldn't answer non-technical mail anymore, but I'd
better correct some things.. 

In article <COW.94Jun13164709@flores.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>,
Oliver Wahl <cow@flores.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
>
>Just caught this snippet from PowerPC Newsline:
>
>Subject: 2058 NOVELL WORKING ON LOW-COST SWITCHING DEVICE BASED ON LINUX
>
>NOVELL WORKING ON LOW-COST SWITCHING DEVICE BASED ON LINUX
>(June 10th 1994) Linus Torvalds, developer of the Linux freeware Unix
>System V.4 clone, has confirmed that Novell Inc is working on a
>project based on his operating system, which is code-named Corsair.

Argh.  I can confirm that Novell at some point showed interest in Linux
for some internal experimental project, but I certainly can't confirm
the name nor if it would ever be used for anything but the internal
project.. 

>Torvalds also says that Novell is developing a new windows manager
>for Corsair called Looking Glass: "I haven't seen it, but from what I
>know it's great, better than the Common Desktop Environment. It seems
>a solid product, and they will probably do some documentation. I
>don't think they will in any way try to compromise the copyright of
>the kernel itself because they'd be killed by the bad publicity."

The quote is probably reasonably accurate, but taken out of context
(this was when discussing the PC Week articles).

Looking Glass isn't anything new by Novell, but has existed as a
separate window manager for some time.  I heard about Novell possibly
using it for Linux the same way everybody else did: through PC Week.  I
then asked around about it, and people who knew about it thought Looking
Glass was one of the better window managers around (and I'm pretty
certain almost anything is better than CDE :-). 

So the "confirmations" by me are about as much worth as any other random
stuff that has floated around about Novell: I have no idea what the real
deal is, although I tend to hope the Novell rumors are true.. 

                Linus

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