Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #258
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Mon, 13 Jun 94 06:13:13 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #258, Volume #2                Mon, 13 Jun 94 06:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: XFree2.1 Server without WD90C33 support ? (Nate Williams)
  Re: future of Unixware (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Adaptec 2740W driver yet? (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
  Re: future of Unixware (Orc)
  Re: IRC for Linux? (Scott Howard)
  Re: future of Unixware (Mark A. Davis)
  Can Adaptec 1542CF handle floppies? (Brad Block)
  Re: One downsmanship (Was:Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)) (Amancio Hasty Jr)
  Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial) (Rob Ransbottom)
  TinyFugue for Linux? (Brad Block)
  Re: Can Adaptec 1542CF handle floppies? (Graham Chapman)
  Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist) (Beverly J. Brown)
  Re: My OS is better than yours... (Beverly J. Brown)
  Re: PAS SCSI + HD (Yeung_Wan_Kwong)
  Re: SVGALIB111 and Linux (Michel Anders)
  Re: What is a good _LARGE_ tape backup for Linux? (Matthew Dillon)
  Re: Linux stable enough for commercial products yet? (Matthew Dillon)
  Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist) (Matthew Dillon)
  Re: getty/agetty (Cameron L. Spitzer)
  xearth is really cool (Cameron L. Spitzer)

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From: nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams)
Subject: Re: XFree2.1 Server without WD90C33 support ?
Date: 12 Jun 1994 22:04:09 GMT

In article <1994Jun10.084437.26086@janix.pcs.dec.com>,
Christian Siebert <chr@anatol.pcs.com> wrote:
>I have a Grafikcard Paradise with a WD90c33 Chip and tried XFree2.1 with the
>SVGA-Server.
...
>Can anyone help? Must I wait for a new XFree Revision or can I get
>the right Xserver somewhere else?

You must wait for the next XFree release, which will (hopefully) have support
for your chipset.  


Nate

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From: les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 12 Jun 1994 21:58:26 -0500

In article <Dr6vC5.CIr@pe1chl.ampr.org>, Rob Janssen <pe1chl@rabo.nl> wrote:
>In <Cr5zEF.Ltx@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>
>Why would you ever want to have >96 RS232 ports on a Unix box??

A bunch of modems, some printers sprinkled around the building, some
inbound wire services, a couple of satellite uplinks. 96 sounds
about right to me...

>Are you still using serial terminals to work on?  Aieee...  Today, most
>people prefer to have an X terminal or a PC on ethernet, running terminal
>emulation.

Maybe one or two of those to control the printers.  Not everthing you
do under unix needs a network or a graphics screen.

>In case you want to tell me it is less expensive: you forget the cost of
>the cabling and its maintenance.  (e.g. when relocating users or adding
>additional terminals at a location)

It's less expensive.  You probably aren't going to relocate your modem
bank very often and if you do, the computer will probably move too.
A terminal server might be more reliable but I prefer to keep spares
for critical equipment anyway and you can get the intelligent board
and it's spare for about the same price as a single terminal server.

Les Mikesell
  les@mcs.com

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2740W driver yet?
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 01:52:50 GMT

Brad Block (bradb@bronze.coil.com) wrote:
: Has anyone made a Adaptec AHA-2740/AHA-2740W driver yet?

: - Thanks!
: -- 
: ----|Brad Block|----                          ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
:      AKA: MaKi                                                614\766-1258
:                                                   bradb@bronze.coil.com

        No.  Please read the SCSI-HOWTO.


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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: orc@pell.com (Orc)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 01:26:48 GMT

In article <CrAHAG.JGx@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>,
william.c.brown <corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> wrote:

>       Well make sure your grandmother has a good internet provider
>       so she can get her kernel patches every 15 minutes just like
>       all the other Linux users...


    That's odd -- I run linux on two machines at home and have only
done two system updates in the last 18 months.  Perhaps your desire
for a good old-fashioned flamewar is coloring your judgement just a
little bit?


                  ____
    david parsons \bi/ followups set to comp.unix.unixware
                   \/

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: c9219517@sage.newcastle.edu.au (Scott Howard)
Subject: Re: IRC for Linux?
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 02:24:18 GMT

Maarten Boekhold (Who'd you expect??) (boekhold@morra.et.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: Clarence Smith (optik@u.washington.edu) wrote:
: > In article <2taoh5$ae5@bronze.coil.com>,
: > Brad Block <bradb@bronze.coil.com> wrote:
: > >Is there any IRC binaries or source for Linux?
: > >

: >     Yes, on sunsite.unc.edu in pub/Linux/apps/comm/termstuff
: >     you will find irc sources, and most likely the bins as
: >     well. Also, in pub/Linux/Incoming you will find the
: >     newest irc source..and this is configured to run 'for Linux'.

: Well, as I see this, I presume they are compiled with term-support. Do 
: they run without term also then???

I am unsure as to if there are any binaries, and whether they are term or
not, but the source code that is there is configurable to support both term
and non-term, as well as having Voice support.

: You can also just do an 'archie' on IRC and compile it yourself. Very 
: easy, and no probs at all

Well, this depends on the version you get (2.2.9 needs a minor change to the
Makefile), but by doing this you also miss out on getting Voice support in
your client!

  Scott.

: Maarten



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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 02:30:51 GMT

rick@digibd.digibd.com (Rick Richardson) writes:

>rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) writes:

>>>Hooking up >96 ports to a commercial Unix box is trivial; doing it with
>>>Linux is impossible without a terminal server, which adds in its own
>>>series of headaches, especially if you just want a stand-alone box with
>>>no networking.

>>Why would you ever want to have >96 RS232 ports on a Unix box??
>>Are you still using serial terminals to work on?  Aieee...  Today, most
>>people prefer to have an X terminal or a PC on ethernet, running terminal
>>emulation.

>There are just tons and tons of database applications that don't need
>anything more than a $300 character based terminal.  Its true that
>probably *none* of the people that read these groups would be happy
>to use that configuration for themselves.

You're right.  I much prefer a $399 Wyse 160 with high refresh paper-white
screen, high speed serial, dual serial and 1 parallel port, choice of
5 keyboards, full line draw and multiple character sets, all attributes,
Tektronix graphics support, PC/99gr VGA+EGA+CGA+HURC graphics support.
Still essentially character based, but the extras are really nice.

>As far as wiring costs go, if there is twisted pair to an office or
>cube, it can be used for serial *or* 10baseT.

True, although unshielded UTP does not support high speed serial (19200+)
very well (severe distance limits, limited interference control, sometimes
not enough pairs for true modem control + hardware handshaking).  I think
it would be interesting if Wyse were to release a 160T, with no second
serial port or multi-host capability and a 10-T connector instead, at no
extra cost.  I bet it would be a hit....

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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Subject: Can Adaptec 1542CF handle floppies?
Date: 12 Jun 1994 23:39:28 -0400

Do most SCSI cards (specifically Adaptec 1542CF) handle floppy drives?  
If not, what does?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Subject: Re: One downsmanship (Was:Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist))
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 05:24:08 GMT

In article <2tga32$d6f@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> peter@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1994Jun10.094747.21313@cc.usu.edu>,  <ivie@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>In article <2t7jbf$gq0@umd5.umd.edu>, mark@elea.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz) writes:
>>> In article <Cr2JxG.9v5@metapro.dialix.oz.au>,
>>> Rob Masters <rdm@metapro.DIALix.oz.au> wrote:
>>>>Who first used UNIX on an 11/23 with 16 users in 128k Ram, runs FreeBSD on a
>>>>386sx-25/4Mb and /still/ supports a Xenix 286 system that handles 16 users 
>>>>in 1MB!
>
>>>>(Who knows where this will all end! ;-)
>
>>> It will end when all the people who used dinky-size PDP11's have said
>>> what they used. :)  It's a welcome diversion from "What is 386BSD 1.0"
>>> and "What is different between Linux and BSD".
>
>>Only as long as we stick to Unix...
>
>Oh, then I can talk about the 3 user 1802-based development system with 4K of
>ROM and 12K of RAM and 2 bog-standard 250K IBM-style 8" floppies. I think it
>used bit-banger uarts. Cooperative multitasking, so if one user forgot to put
>a "sleep" in a long-running loop you were hosed.

Well okay, what are we doing to bloat up the kernels and reduce response
time? For starters, I can think of drivers operating at a too high
priority for too long -- Remember the old com driver in *bsd?

And no, I am not going to tell you stories about 11/04, rt-11, gt40's,
pdp-10s, etc...


Amancio




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From: rob@phavl.uucp (Rob Ransbottom)
Subject: Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 02:22:29 GMT

In article <2tafcc$629@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> lilo@slip-5-16.ots.utexas.edu (lilo [Dances With Geeks]) writes:
>On Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:51:50 +0000, Paul (paul@myrddin.isl.cf.ac.uk) wrote:

>Well, since you can charge whatever distributing charge you want, I guess
>the only quibble is in my use of the word "sell."  Um, I'm not sure that
>matters altogether too much....  ;)

This was my first thought.  However the GPL does infect code, 
thus if you develop a sensitive product for internal use only 
and someone steals a disk all control of the product is lost.
This could matter very much.


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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: TinyFugue for Linux?
Date: 13 Jun 1994 02:22:27 -0400


Is there a TinyFugue Linux client?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: grahamc@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Graham Chapman)
Subject: Re: Can Adaptec 1542CF handle floppies?
Date: 13 Jun 1994 16:44:24 +1000

In <2tgkdg$fld@bronze.coil.com> bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block) writes:

>Do most SCSI cards (specifically Adaptec 1542CF) handle floppy drives?  
>If not, what does?

>- Thanks!
>-- 
>----|Brad Block|----                           ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
>     AKA: MaKi                                                 614\766-1258
>                                                   bradb@bronze.coil.com

The Adaptec 1542C and 1542CF includes a floppy controller, the 1540C
and 1540CF do not. I am currently running my floppy drives off the 
controller on my 1542CF, so I know it works. :-) Can't say what other
SCSI cards do, though.

Graham

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From: bjb@shore.net (Beverly J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)
Date: 13 Jun 1994 03:21:17 -0400
Reply-To: bjb@shore.net

In article <2td0bm$9sn@nkosi.well.com>, Patrick J. Volkerdi wrote:
> In article <Dr7DpL.J5@pe1chl.ampr.org>, Rob Janssen <pe1chl@rabo.nl> wrote:
> >In <2ta8jr$ii9@nkosi.well.com> gonzo@magnet.mednet.net (Patrick J. Volkerding) writes:
> >
> >>In article <2t9jo2$gek@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
> >>Peter da Silva <peter@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> wrote:
> >>>In article <me.771084458@tartufo>,
> >>>Michael Elbel <me%dude.pcs.dec.com@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> wrote:
> >>>>Does it? I'm pretty sure, it doesn't. I distinctively remember that the
> >>>>/etc/DIRCOLORS file holds the actual escape sequences to use.
> >>>
> >>>What if you have more than one terminal?
> >
> >>Then you can use $HOME/.dir_colors to override the file in /etc.
> >
> >Ah, so you get a new home with each terminal?
> 
> Yeah - that's it. ;^)
> 
> No, you don't get a new $HOME, but you might get a new $TERM. You can set 
> which $TERM types can be colorized in the /etc/DIR_COLORS or 
> $HOME/.dir_colors config file:
> 
> # Below, there should be one TERM entry for each termtype that is colorizable
> TERM console
> TERM con132x25

Suppose I want to set different colors for color xterms that have different 
color backgrounds? It would be nice if the color-xterm had a resource that 
could be defined to say where it should pick up its DIR_COLORS file. If 
there is such a resource please let me know what it is.

Beverly J. Brown
bjb@shore.net
beverly@datacube.com

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From: bjb@shore.net (Beverly J. Brown)
Subject: Re: My OS is better than yours...
Date: 13 Jun 1994 03:21:19 -0400
Reply-To: bjb@shore.net

In article <1994Jun12.101656.3897@vectrex.login.qc.ca>, Denis Solaro wrote:
> John William Chambless (chambles@whale.st.usm.edu) wrote:
> 
> : >But for people who want real support for their applications and a
> : >company to fall back on, a commercial variant of Unix might be better.  
> 
> : I take it you've never had to call Sun with a major problem before.
> 
> "Tech support !!!....  You mean your Sparc isn't under contract?
>  Well it's $250 an hour, and an hour is counted as the minimum." 
> 
> That means 1min = 15 min = 1 hour = $250 in any case.
> 
> I still can't get one stupid part number for a new $60 ROM on my IPC (the 
> old one has a logical bug that screwed the whole system.), sales people 
> can't even handle part numbers and insist on me going thru the "techs"... :> 
> 
> Now that is what I call being commercial.  
> 

And I thought Microsoft was bad! They *only* charge $150 a phone call for 
Windows NT! :)

Beverly J. Brown
bjb@shore.net
beverly@datacube.com

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.os2.misc
From: wkyeung@ee.cuhk.hk (Yeung_Wan_Kwong)
Subject: Re: PAS SCSI + HD
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:06:41 GMT

I am the original poster of this message, owing to some problem in my
news reader I need to repost it by follow up to my message ! Please
forgive me !


: Hi all netter, Linux expert, SCSI expert,

: I have problem to get the "Installation Boot Disk" from the Trans
: Ameritech April release of Slackware to work with my PAS SCSI + HD.

: I have the follwoing.

: 1. 20MB RAM
: 2. Proaudio Studio 16 SCSI
: 3. Toshiba XM-3401A
: 4. Seaget ST 3655N Fast SCSI-2 HD
: 5. two IDE hook up to a cheapie IDE card
: 6. ISA bus ONLY

: I have this setup.

: 1. Seagate as the end device in the internal SCSI cable. The HD is
: terminated. It is set to SCSI id 0
: 2. Toshiba CDROM as the device with ID 3, terminator taken out !

: THis setup work flawlessly under OS/2, fdisk can see the drive and
: format it as either FAT or HPFS.

: IN THE LINUX
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

: I buy the SCSI HD to try out Linux !
: I have the Trans Ameritech Linux CD April release.
: I try to RAWRITE the "SCSI" Bootdisk and Colrlite Root disk. When I
: boot of the boot disk, the LILO load with a "boot#" prompt, then I
: press entre, the LOADRAMDISK appear and then a juck of message comes
: out stating those UART and Bogomips etc.... 

: Then it come to the PAS SCSI driver, it return one SCSI host detected
: and I can see the LED in the HD turns on but then the boot process
: hang. I have try to play around the SCSI id of BOTH device.

: The follwoing phenomen is observerd.

: If I set the scsi id of the CDROM < (smaller than) the HD e.g. CDROM
: as id 3, HD as Id 4, then the SCSI driver goes one step further with
: the CDROM recognize and return the vendor information.

: PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!

: Any advice would be welcome. As I have 20MB RAM, buying of a ISA
: Busmaster SCSI host adaptor will definitely co's me problem (I guess).
: If I need to stay with PIO, I will stay with my PAS SCSI until the
: next board upgrade !!!!!!


: PLEASE REPLY TO 
: tc152678@hkpu01.hkp.hk
: * I am using my friends a/c *
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

: Emmanuel Yiu 


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From: michela@sci.kun.nl (Michel Anders)
Subject: Re: SVGALIB111 and Linux
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:34:11 GMT

In <2tg5kq$a18@infomatch.com> tom@infomatch.com (Tom) writes:

>For some strange reason I've been having trouble with svgalib111 and my 
>linux machine.  Everything else works fine for me.  First off I'll tell 
>you what I have...

>486DLC33 with 8MB Ram and a Trident 8900c video card
>Linux.1.1.18 (although I've tried using 1.0 to see if that was the problem)
>I also have the Cyrix FasMath math coprocessor (40mhz)

>I have no trouble installing svgalib111, and it does work to some extent.
>But for some reason a few programs just stop working.  For example, 
>"seejpeg" crashes the screen on every console so bad I had to reboot.
>ZGV will work up until the point where you select a picture which results 
>in a message "svgalib: Floating point exception or divide by zero".

[ ... ]

I got the same FP exeception just yesterday when compiling ZGV2.2
The problem as far as i could see is in the vgalib function
'vga_getmodeinfo()'. When called with an argument of 0 (i.e. TEXTMODE) it
crashes. The real problem is not in the function itself but somewhere in a
chipset dependent function it calls. Since we share the same video chipset
i supose the problem is in the trident code. 

I haven't got around to drop harm hanemayer a note, but i will this
afternoon. Meanwhile , the solution in zgv is to check for all calls to
vga_getmodeinfo and make sure they don't get passed a zero argument.
the calls occur in only two of the source files : "vgadisp.c" and another
i can't remember (just grep it) and are within loops from  0 -255. Just
changing the start indices to 1 worked fine. (zgv is looking for graphics
modes that meet its demands, so i has no business looking for textmodes
anyway).

Hope this helps,

Michel.

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From: dillon@apollo.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: What is a good _LARGE_ tape backup for Linux?
Date: 12 Jun 1994 15:01:30 -0700

In article <2tfdpm$7h0@bronze.coil.com> bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block) writes:
:
:I need a tape backup to backup my 1.8gig Quantum HD weekly.  What Tape 
:drive will fit 1.8gigs?
:
:- Thanks!
:
:P.S.  Also, is there a way to transparently backup files (I mean the 
:backup is going on while users are still fuddling on the system)?
:
:- Thanks again!
:-- 
:----|Brad Block|----                           ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
:     AKA: MaKi                                                 614\766-1258
:                                                   bradb@bronze.coil.com

    You want to get a SCSI DAT tape backup.  Depending on the drive, you
    can fit between 1 and 16 GB.  Standard DDS format tapes can fit 2 GB 
    uncompressed (around 4 GB compressed).  HP has a new DDS2 tape drive
    which can fit 4 GB uncompressed on a 120m DDS2 tape (around 8 GB 
    compressed).  Transfer rates for HP drives are on the order of 
    300KBytes/sec for DDS drives and 1 MByte/sec for DDS2 drives.

    I don't know particular vendors for these drives, you will have to
    research that.

                                        -Matt

-- 

    Matthew Dillon              dillon@apollo.west.oic.com
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From: dillon@apollo.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon)
Subject: Re: Linux stable enough for commercial products yet?
Date: 12 Jun 1994 15:04:31 -0700

In article <CrAp1s.M20@rahul.net> alte@rahul.net (Charles Liu) writes:
:
:Per Section 1.7.4, page 21, the recently published The Linux Bible: "As 
:far as stability and robustness are concerned, many users have reported 
:that Linux is at least as stable as commercial UNIX systems."
:
:Charles
:Universal CD-ROM
:(Has the Linux Bible in stock)
:
:-- 
:End of Note

    Personally, I would like to see better shared library support before
    committing commercial development to linux.  The fixed-address shared
    libraries currently in use have potential portability and address conflict
    problems.

    But, apart from that I would say Linux is stable enough from an
    interface standpoint for commercial development.

                                        -Matt

-- 

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From: dillon@apollo.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)
Date: 12 Jun 1994 20:28:17 -0700

In article <2tg9o5$d06@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> peter@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Peter da Silva) writes:
:In article <2ta8jr$ii9@nkosi.well.com>,
:Patrick J. Volkerding <gonzo@magnet.mednet.net> wrote:
:>In article <2t9jo2$gek@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
:>Peter da Silva <peter@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> wrote:
:>>In article <me.771084458@tartufo>,
:>>Michael Elbel <me%dude.pcs.dec.com@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> wrote:
:>>>Does it? I'm pretty sure, it doesn't. I distinctively remember that the
:>>>/etc/DIRCOLORS file holds the actual escape sequences to use.
:
:>>What if you have more than one terminal?
:
:>Then you can use $HOME/.dir_colors to override the file in /etc.
:
:How does that help? You log in with a different account on each terminal?
:
:(sorry, I don't see how this could help at all. Seriously. The kludge of
:renaming $HOME/.dir_colors when you log in isn't going to help with concurrent
:logins.)

    Since the purpose of having explicit escape codes was to avoid having
    to load in termlib, it would seem a reasonable extension to the .dir_colors
    file to allow a TERM prefix to the escape codes, thus allowing different
    terminal types.

                                            -Matt

-- 

    Matthew Dillon              dillon@apollo.west.oic.com
    1005 Apollo Way             ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
    Incline Village, NV. 89451  Obvious Implementations Corporation
    USA                         Sandel-Avery Engineering
    [always include a portion of the original email in any response!]


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
From: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: getty/agetty
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:21:51 GMT

In article <2tdfe1$4rd@forge.cc.gatech.edu> gregh@cc.gatech.edu (Greg Hankins) writes:
>In article <2tcp60$pjq@hamilton.maths.tcd.ie>,
>Timothy Murphy <tim@maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
>>mcable@porthos.tcs.tufts.edu (Matt Cable) writes:
>>
>>>I'm trying to [get a dial-up login working]
>>>(slackware 1.20).  [...]
>>Try using mgetty.

>You could do that.  Or, to solve the problem, you could check out the
>Serial-HOWTO, and read the section on setting up terminals (or in this case
>your friends PC).

I followed the excellent Serial-HOWTO (nice dvi file!) to the letter
and still didn't get a dial-up login from Slackware 1.2.0.
All three getties (agetty, mgetty, and getty_ps (uu versions))
die the same way.  Will post a summary when I figure out the debugging
features.
Patrick advised me that he knows it's broken, and he thinks it
might be fixed in a utilities upgrade later in the month.
(BTW, Serial-HOWTO, downloaded from sunsite yesterday, recommends
getty-ps.2.0.7.c.  There is no getty_ps in Slackware 1.2.0, and the
current getty_ps on sunsite is 2.0.7e.)

Cameron

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From: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: xearth is really cool
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:33:23 GMT


I grabbed it a long time ago and finally installed it.
A very nice root-window display.  Looks more dramatic
if you turn the nightside brightness down and put the south
pole at the top of the screen.

Cameron

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