Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #254
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Sun, 12 Jun 94 10:15:56 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #254, Volume #2                Sun, 12 Jun 94 10:15:56 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux and Symetrical Multi-Processing? (Denis Solaro)
  Re: My OS is better than yours... (Denis Solaro)
  Re: future of Unixware (Terry Lambert)
  Re: My OS is better than yours... (Ray Hann)
  menu/toolbar for Linux? (Cyrill Vatomsky)
  Does DTC 327 OVL SCSI Controller work?? (Lyman Chip Copps)
  Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again) (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: menu/toolbar for Linux? (Remco Treffkorn)
  IRC for Linux? (Brad Block)
  How to up number of vt's? (Brad Block)
  Need a easy-to-use menu shell for Linux (Brad Block)
  Does anybody has a keyboard map for WordPerfect? (Michal Jaegermann)
  Linux stable enough for commercial products yet? (Stuart J. Barr)
  What is the best machine to buy for Linux? (randy hyde)
  Linux Success (Arc Wave)
  Re: future of Unixware (Terry Lambert)
  Re: menu/toolbar for Linux? (richard.c.schmidt)
  Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial) (Brandon S. Allbery)
  Re: GL/3-D libaries for Linux (Philip Brown)
  Re: My OS is better than yours... (John William Chambless)
  mouse doesn't work (Kevin Brannen)
  Re: future of Unixware (william.c.brown)
  Adaptec 2740W driver yet? (Brad Block)
  What PCI video card works good with Linux? (Brad Block)

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From: drzob@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Denis Solaro)
Subject: Re: Linux and Symetrical Multi-Processing?
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 10:04:05 GMT

Brad Block (bradb@bronze.coil.com) wrote:
: Has anyone seen or heard any rumors about appending the Linux kernel or 
: modifying for use with multiprocessing motherboards?

: The reason I am asking is because Intel's new P54CM 90/100 Pentiums have 
: nifty special features that allow for great ease of SMP.  If the Linux 
: kernel could be arranged around this, please let me know!

: - Thanks!

And would kill the last argument in favor of SCO forever... Well I'm 
waiting for it too.

--
                                     Denis Solaro -- drzob@vectrex.login.qc.ca



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From: drzob@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Denis Solaro)
Subject: Re: My OS is better than yours...
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 10:16:56 GMT

John William Chambless (chambles@whale.st.usm.edu) wrote:

: >But for people who want real support for their applications and a
: >company to fall back on, a commercial variant of Unix might be better.  

: I take it you've never had to call Sun with a major problem before.

"Tech support !!!....  You mean your Sparc isn't under contract?
 Well it's $250 an hour, and an hour is counted as the minimum." 

That means 1min = 15 min = 1 hour = $250 in any case.

I still can't get one stupid part number for a new $60 ROM on my IPC (the 
old one has a logical bug that screwed the whole system.), sales people 
can't even handle part numbers and insist on me going thru the "techs"... :> 

Now that is what I call being commercial.  


--
                                     Denis Solaro -- drzob@vectrex.login.qc.ca

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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 10 Jun 1994 20:37:10 GMT

In article <1994Jun08.132553.4032@taylor.infi.net> mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) writes:
] Motif is likely to be THE standard look and feel for all Unix and non-Unix
] X Windows applications.  This is the reason for the push for a Motif clone.

1)      Who is pushing for a clone?

2)      What working groups exist and how can they be contacted?  I'm
        afraid I can't take the Yddragsil(sp?)/Russian effort seriously
        with the information I've seen.

3)      What ever happened to the "Notif Project" (the 'N' is intentional)
        supposedly out of Austraila?  It came on the scene for 1 week in
        the news groups, and then simply vanished.

] The specs for the Motif API/ libraries are now available, which means
] a clone could be developed and used just like the real thing.

Are you referring to "the specifications" in the sense of the widely
available OSF Motif "White book" documentation for 1.1 and (recently) 1.2?

If so, this is necessary but not sufficient information... it does not
include the value of manifest constants, and the assignment order is
not the same as the appearance order in the documentation, as you would
expect.

What this means is that you won't necessarily get what you expect to
get between implementations using shared libraries unless the manifest
constant values are commonly defined.  If I were OSF, I would see this
as "copy protection" and defend it rigorously.

This would delay a clone, but on the other hand, a free clone would
probably gain momentum quickly and end up representing "the" correct
values for the manifest constants.


Two issues that are totally up in the air, of course, are the availability
of the 2.0 specifications, and the cost of certification (supposedly a
non-trivial fee) which result from the certification test suites (as with
the POSIX certifications test suites) not being publically available for
anyone who wants them.


                                        Terry Lambert
                                        terry@cs.weber.edu
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.

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From: mshann@hyperthink.lerc.nasa.gov (Ray Hann)
Subject: Re: My OS is better than yours...
Date: 10 Jun 1994 20:51:08 GMT

In article <1994Jun9.211447.745@brtph560.bnr.ca> heistp@bnr.ca writes:
> But for people who want real
>support for their applications and a company to fall back on, a commercial
>variant of Unix might be better.  No miracles are made here...it's just
>a matter of circumstance.
>
Have your ever called a commercial vendor for software support?  It's
usually a nightmare.  First you get about 15 minutes of muzak piped into
your ear while you wait on a technical support person.  When you finally
get to talk to this person your mind creates the image of the creature
your communicating with on the other end of the line.  A thin-bodied
mutent with a giant zit for a head saying "have you referred to the manual
concerning this problem ... " or " sounds like a hardware problem, call
your computer manufacturer ..."

If find the Linux community of developers and users far more responsive,
friendly, and knowledgeble  than the tech support depts. of most
commercial software vendors IMVHO 8-)

Ray



-- 

=============================================================================
Ray Hann                        |     
NASA Lewis Research Center      |    
Cleveland, Ohio  44135          | email: mshann@hyperthink.lerc.nasa.gov 
=============================================================================


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From: cyrillv@netcom.com (Cyrill Vatomsky)
Subject: menu/toolbar for Linux?
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 21:02:29 GMT

Is there a user-configurable toolbar package for Xfree? I looked through
linux/X newsgroups and in ftp sites and could not find anythin. I am
not talking about tcl or other programming, sorry I am not a programmer.
There are lots of toolbar packages for MSWin, that can make life much
easier. Anybody knows of anything along those lines? 
-- 

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From: lyman@nntph31.bnr.ca (Lyman Chip Copps)
Subject: Does DTC 327 OVL SCSI Controller work??
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 18:06:06 GMT

Does anyone know if the DTC 327 OVL Local Bus SCSI controller works with Linux. If it does, How well does it work?

Appreciate any info Chip

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From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again)
Date: 10 Jun 1994 17:10:51 -0400

In article <7074@raven.ukc.ac.uk>, Greg Harewood <gjh@ukc.ac.uk> wrote:
-In article <2t71iv$p4k@virgo.cc.gatech.edu>,
- [ I said we may use the ESC key]
-AAAARGH
-Please, no nonnonoonn.
-The escape key is the worst possible choice because it makes using the
-function keys and keypad so much more difficult; PF1 for example returns
-ESC O P. Even the cursor key sequences start with ESC.

Thanks for reminding me of that. I knew there was a reason I was favoring
control over escape.

-
-I would favour a single key stroke for each submenu; for example exit
-in DOS EDIT is ALT F X, ie Meta, File Menu, Exit. By using a single
-meta key and then alphabetic sequences, it can be a little mnemonic, and
-better still there is only one key to be relearnt for differnt keyboards;
-the Meta key. It could be ALT under X, and PF1 on VT100 keyboards, and
-we could always have, say, a fllback of control X. Shortcuts could still
-be defined for particular layouts, eg F10 could enter Meta F X for you.

I like.

-
-If we can base it on a menu system, even when there is no mouse present,
-it provide a clear way of finding the command you want - WordPerfect
-is not like that, for example - traditionally there is very little logic
-to the key sequences.

What key sequences? I thought everything in WP was function keys followed
by numbers on the menus?

-
-The menu's should optionally pop up when using the keyboard method, so
-that you can glance at them if you wish, but if you know the key
-sequences then you don't need to. Finally, for ease of use on the keyboard,
-there should be no more than two levels of menu. Print, for example, sould
-have it's own top level menu, eg ALT P S for print setup, ALT P O for
-printout (ie now, with defaults).

Sounds good to me. But the menus pop up every time right?

-
-Finally, Yes, C++ should be used. I would suggest a good first stage
-would be to prototype this userinfo on emacs or something.

The current platform we're proposing is JOE. Somewhat similar.

BAJ
-- 
---
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu

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From: remco@emc.rvt.com (Remco Treffkorn)
Subject: Re: menu/toolbar for Linux?
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 00:26:35 GMT
Reply-To: remco@emc.rvt.com

Cyrill Vatomsky (cyrillv@netcom.com) wrote:
: Is there a user-configurable toolbar package for Xfree? I looked through
: linux/X newsgroups and in ftp sites and could not find anythin. I am
: not talking about tcl or other programming, sorry I am not a programmer.
: There are lots of toolbar packages for MSWin, that can make life much
: easier. Anybody knows of anything along those lines? 
: -- 

If you have Motif you could try: bricons. There might also be a Xlib version.
Just use archie. (I think you will find it on sunsite)

If you want to give fvwm a try, it has a toolbox/bar build in. Together
with the xpm library you get nice color icons. All you need is on sunsite.

I am sure that there is much more. I wrote my own.


-- 

Remco Treffkorn, DC2XT
remco@emc.rvt.com
(408) 685-1201

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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: IRC for Linux?
Date: 10 Jun 1994 18:12:53 -0400

Is there any IRC binaries or source for Linux?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: How to up number of vt's?
Date: 10 Jun 1994 18:14:46 -0400

How do I up the number of Virtual consoles in the kernel?  Also, how 
should I go about recompiling the kernel once I've modified it?

- Thanks!

-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Need a easy-to-use menu shell for Linux
Date: 10 Jun 1994 18:16:48 -0400

I need a easy-to-use menu (shell) that will serve as a login shell for 
guests.  Does anyone have such a thing?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Subject: Does anybody has a keyboard map for WordPerfect?
Reply-To: michal@phys.ualberta.ca
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 07:35:50 GMT

I tried, for a friend, to setup WordDefect for SCO under iBCS2
emulator (alpha software).  A writeup which comes with iBCS is right.
One can run this and even get some text on a screen.  One fly in the
ointment.  WP relies heavily on function keys, does not seem to really
read terminfo, so is not very usable in this setting.  An experiment
with defining a keyboard map in which function keys are sending
the same codes as on SCO console was not exatly a roaring success.
Does somebody familiar with this program has some keyboard map
which would work better in this particular situation?

   Thanks,
   Michal

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From: stuart@libra.hasler.ascom.ch (Stuart J. Barr)
Subject: Linux stable enough for commercial products yet?
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 12:44:24 GMT

Hi All.

I was talking a couple of days ago to somebody from IXI Limited in
the UK, the developers of IXI Panorama, the virtual Motif window manager.
I was talking to him about releasing a version for Linux, but the
main worry was the stability of Linux, and the availability of other
commercial products.  Now, can any of you experts out there come up
with a convincing argument about the stability of Linux?  His main
point to me was that if Linux was stable enough, and the demand was
there, that it might be worth their while.

Of course, I tried to convince him about providing a free version
just for non-commercial Linux use, to get the punters interested,
then they'll scream for it in the office.  Nothing like free [good]
publicity...

Ok guys, I'm listening!

Stuart

   ___   ____  __             Stuart J. Barr           Ascom Hasler AG
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 ___). \_/.  /__) (_/ /  /    Tel: ++41 31 999 16 04   3000 Berne 14   
                              Fax: ++41 31 999 37 35   Switzerland    

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From: rhyde@mirage.ucr.edu (randy hyde)
Subject: What is the best machine to buy for Linux?
Date: 11 Jun 1994 03:10:25 GMT

Okay, I might be coming across some additional money real soon here
and I would like to put together a network compatible Linux system.
What is the best motherboard, network adapter, video card, SCSI card,
disk controller, serial adapter, etc., for a typical one-user system?

Currently I have a 486dx2/66 with a caching IDE controller.  But I
want the highest performance system for the Linux box since I need to
do some research which produces timings and I need to compete against
Alphas and MIPS CPUs (hey, I'm not expecting to compete directly, but
I've got to have numbers better than what we're getting on 25 MHz PS/2
systems right now).

Network performance is *very* important since I will be doing some research
on distributed shared memory.  10% can make a big difference.
Are there any (non-ethernet) high performance network adapters compatible
with Linux?

Also, are there any motherboards with a really great CPU<->memory interface.
I notice that most 486 motherboards do great until you try to write to
memory (My current 486 motherboard using the HiNT chipset [it sucks] to
provide a VL/Pseudo-EISA bus).  I would be especially interested in hearing
about experiences people have with PCI/EISA systems (my bus combo of choice).
Obviously, the Pentium/90 would probably be my chip of choice, though I might
just wait for a faster CPU or could settle for a 100 MHz DX4 or Blue Lightning
chipset.

One other question.  Mike Griffith here at UCR mentioned that an attempt at
"SCSI/IP" has been made but whoever was working on it decided it would be too
slow.  Could someone report the efforts to date on this?  I have no interest
in such details for Linux, but I also own a PC532 (NS32532 chip) and they are
talking about running ethernet from a SCSI port.  I would suspect that this
could also kill performance (if SCSI/IP doesn't work well) and I'd like to
hear about any potential problems.

Thanks,
Randy Hyde
rhyde@cs.ucr.edu

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From: arc@thunder.indstate.edu (Arc Wave)
Subject: Linux Success
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 06:56:40 GMT

        I have Linux set up and running...feels good to be back...I ended
        up with a 546MB HD (Maxtor 12ms 256k cache) for Linux.

        Everything is in order except the d*mn X Window ps2aux mouse!
        It just sits there looking at me -- the video is great, but kinda
        useless without the mouse ;) (any help here appreciated).

        To X or not to X...yes I have re-compiled the kernel with PS/2
        busmouse....and on boot up it loads the driver.

        My Proaudio Spectrum (PAS16) seems to be supported as well as my
        CDROM drive! YES!! (I already re-compiled the kernel to support
        these).

Paul

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 |      Paul Cardwell             | email address: arc@thunder.indstate.edu  |
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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 11 Jun 1994 08:19:42 GMT

In article <Cr5zEF.Ltx@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
] There appear to be no members of the current crop of high capacity
] ( that is, > 16 ports) intelligent serial cards which support Linux.
] Most of the Linux supported stuff is 4-port 16550 cards, few of which
] come with more than four ports.
] 
] Hooking up >96 ports to a commercial Unix box is trivial; doing it with
] Linux is impossible without a terminal server, which adds in its own
] series of headaches, especially if you just want a stand-alone box with
] no networking.

...

] Also, as Rick suggested, there hasn't even been much call at DigiBoard
] for a Linux driver.
] 
] My guess is that while there may be plenty of Linux installations out
] there, once one counts the number of *seats* using R4 as opposed to
] Linux, it's no contest.

Generally, when 16 port cards are needed on a BSD system, Boca 16-port
cards (model number BB2016) are the choice.  Unfortunately, you are at
6 IRQs consumed with 96 ports.  These, and similar dumb cards are what
BSD and Linux users are using for lack of drivers for the intelligent
cards.  At $1914 + shipping for 96 ports, a smart card with a lot of
ports would be a better deal.  BSDers and Linuxers are both willing to
write drivers, given documentation and download code (or documentation
on download code too, though that's more of a pain).

The major advantage to smart cards would be bus-master DMA into clist
structs -- the drivers involved would be nearly idenitcal to those
in Xenix.

Larger numbers of ports are generally attached using annex hardware, at
about $30 per port where it it starts to be cost effective.  There
is nearly no better soloution for a massive number of ports (like 256)
than putting them on the other end of an ethernet; eventually you
simply run out of IRQs.


                                        Terry Lambert
                                        terry@cs.weber.edu
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.

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From: schmidt@cbnewse.cb.att.com (richard.c.schmidt)
Subject: Re: menu/toolbar for Linux?
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 08:30:51 GMT

From article <cyrillvCr7946.Bz3@netcom.com>, by cyrillv@netcom.com (Cyrill Vatomsky):
> Is there a user-configurable toolbar package for Xfree? I looked through
> linux/X newsgroups and in ftp sites and could not find anythin. I am
> not talking about tcl or other programming, sorry I am not a programmer.
> There are lots of toolbar packages for MSWin, that can make life much
> easier. Anybody knows of anything along those lines? 
> -- 
===================================================================

        Mr. Vatomsky -

        I have seen your post, and several replies. Most replies
        go off here and there [Sorry folks - but ....].

        If your distribution includes OpenLook, and you want
        a quick and "dirty" menu tool, I might suggest using
        OpenLook.

        The menu command is located - normally - under
        /usr/openwin/lib/openwin-menu - or sum such [sorry,
        I'm at work, and don't have my Linux here to check].

        A couple of comments:

        1.      You can easily see the menu structure form the
                various menu files.

        2.      The paths listed in the menus given, are often
                wrong, so try them, if they don't work, and
                you can find them ON THE SYSYEM, go there, and
                fix the path of teh exec command.

        3.      Sorry - it's not an icon, it's a drop down
                menu - blame Sun - or AT&T for that [I like
                em that way myself].

        Ricahrd C. Schmidt


-- 
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                            Home: rcs@fafnir.atl.ga.us
Opinions are mine alone - I sometimes have trouble even doing that

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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 21:53:40 GMT

In article <1994Jun10.155151.26348@cm.cf.ac.uk>, paul@myrddin.isl.cf.ac.uk (Paul) says:
+---------------
| Makes sense, otherwise any company could grab Linux and start selling it
| for large sums of money. You can't actually do that, you can only charge
| for the distribution and support of GPL'd software.
+------------->8

They can *sell* it for all they want... as long as they make sure the source
is freely available.

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery         kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org          bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
The FUDs at Microsoft are shouting "Kill The Wabi!"

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From: philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: GL/3-D libaries for Linux
Date: 11 Jun 1994 04:45:43 GMT

Reuben Regucera (reubenr@netcom.com) wrote:
: from : //gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au/contrib

:       vogl    ->      GL clone
:       vogle   ->      separate library

: next question please..... 8)

Okay...
Does it used MITShm/PEX/any other strange stuff to get maximum
performance?
Is it "OpenGL" compliant?
Is it being actively supported?
  ..?
  ..?
  ..?

:-)


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From: chambles@whale.st.usm.edu (John William Chambless)
Subject: Re: My OS is better than yours...
Date: 10 Jun 1994 19:54:07 -0500

In article <1994Jun9.211447.745@brtph560.bnr.ca>,
Mike Baptiste P275 <heistp@bnr.ca> wrote:

> I love the spirit of the modern Linux user (damnit, we can do it ourselves).

Well, most of us got that way after finding out how bad the
support for most commercial software is. I use products from Sun,
Microscoff, Borland etc. at work, and get better support for THOSE
products through the Net than from the vendors. The only companies
that seem to have decent tech support these days are the startups--
the ones who don't have a huge market share and still appreciate
their customers.

>But for people who want real support for their applications and a
>company to fall back on, a commercial variant of Unix might be better.  

I take it you've never had to call Sun with a major problem before.
-- 
*  Billy Chambless                  University of Southern Mississippi
*  Where can I get Linux for the RS-6000?

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From: kbrannen@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (Kevin Brannen)
Subject: mouse doesn't work
Reply-To: uunet!csfb1!kbrannen
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 23:35:27 GMT


Please help a Linux newbie!  I've just loaded Linux on my laptop and
like it.  However, I'd also like X too :-) .  I have a Toshiba 1910CS 
with a "Ballpt" mouse (trackball).  When I run "startx" it tries to
start and exits with:

Fatal server error:
Cannot open mouse (Device or resource busy)
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2) unexpected singal 13

I think I've tried every entry in my Xconfig file.  Personally, I'd expect
the ps2 or microsoft type would work, but no go.  My /dev/mouse is a sym.
link to /dev/ps2aux if that matters (major 10, minor 1).  I guess I need
to try plugging an external mouse in my ps2 port, but I'd like to use the
"built-in" (plug-in) track-ball.  I have no idea if I need the
Emulate3buttons or not, I thought I'd try to get it working first (I have
3 buttons, but under DOS only 2 work at a time--meaning you get to pick 1
of the side 2 buttons--plus the top which is always available).

If it matters, I don't have the tcp/ip package installed.

Any help would be most helpful, and appreciated!

TIA,

Kevin

-- 
uunet!csfb1!kbrannen
          or
csfb1!kbrannen@uunet.uu.net

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
From: corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.c.brown)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 13:55:52 GMT

In article <1994Jun8.115316.21158@reks.uia.ac.be>, dbruyne@reks.uia.ac.be (Karel.DeBruyne) writes:
> Jim Balson (crbalsn@axpo5.sdrc.com) wrote:
> 
> Some stuff deleted.
> : 
> :     But, Wayne, Linux is not complete at $40.00. In case you haven't
> : noticed, Motif is missing. Linux System Labs will sell you Motif for, ah, 
> : $175.00. plus the $40.00 you claim you can get Linux for , and thats a 
> : whopping $215.00 for Linux (shipping not included). With Unixware at $280.00, 
> : I know which I would rather have! 
> 
> Excuse me, but I can run Motif-applications on a Linux-machine from an 
> X-terminal using local motif, or am I wrong ?
> That way I don't have to pay for Motif on each Linux-machine.

        Sure!!! And so can any other Unix box as long as the
        application in question is statically linked at compile
        time. What these guys are talking about is a "developers"
        Motif package, so that applications can be "compiled".


        --Corey
> 
> Karel De Bruyne
> Computer Centre
> University of Antwerp (UIA)
> Belgium
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> =========================================================================
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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Adaptec 2740W driver yet?
Date: 10 Jun 1994 21:03:42 -0400

Has anyone made a Adaptec AHA-2740/AHA-2740W driver yet?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: What PCI video card works good with Linux?
Date: 10 Jun 1994 21:05:56 -0400

What PCI video card works good with Linux?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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