Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #252
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Date:     Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:13:07 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #252, Volume #2                Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: IRC for Linux? (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: who wants POV for Linux ??? (x93oh1@wmich.edu)
  cheapernet? (Phil G. Fraering)
  Re: IBM 3151 terminal (Jonathan A. Davis)
  Re: IRC for Linux? (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: Source for "su" in SlackWare? (Berkey Walker)
  Performance 486 vs Pentium (Mr Ben M P Li)
  Re: SCSI controller for OS/2, DOS, Linux, possibly even NT? (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
  Re: getty/agetty (Greg Hankins)
  Ick.  Accounting software. (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Ick.  Accounting software. (Barry Flanagan)
  Re: future of Unixware (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: Linux and COBOL (Mark J Elkins)
  Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial) (Tim Smith)
  Re: News  (Juha Laiho)
  Re: 40M Syquest Removeable (Stephen Soghoian)
  Re: IBM 3151 terminal (Keith Smith)

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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: IRC for Linux?
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 22:16:37 GMT

Followup to:  <longyearCr8J6u.Fru@netcom.com>
By author:    longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
>
> bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block) writes:
> 
> >Is there any IRC binaries or source for Linux?
> 
> The source package will compile with only one small problem in the
> Makefile. Linux uses flex rather than lex, so the library used for the
> lexical scanner is "-lfl" rather than "-ll".

Either that, or link /usr/lib/libfl.a to /usr/lib/libl.al

        /hpa


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From: x93oh1@wmich.edu
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: who wants POV for Linux ???
Date: 9 Jun 94 20:00:43 EDT

In article <CqqK63.M58@sybase.com>, cfrank@sybase.com (Colin Frank) writes:
> In article <alexr.0sqc@willow.login.qc.ca> alexr@willow.login.qc.ca (Alexandre Rousseau) writes:
>>In article <2rvnl9INNjed@CS.UTK.EDU> peek@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Michael Peek) writes:
> 
>>> : >How many readers would be interested in an officially-compiled and
>>> : >supported version of POVRAY, with X-Windows support, for LINUX ???
>>> 
>>> : Yes, I'm interested in POVRAY for Linux.
>>> : Patrick Reijnen
>>> 
>>> I'm voting yes too.
>>> Mike Peek - peek@math.utk.edu
>>> 
>>Me too !
>>-- 
> Me too !
> 
> I used an older version on Linux, and it is great.
> 
> Colin...
> 
Meeeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooooo!

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From: pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: cheapernet?
Date: 10 Jun 94 23:18:44 GMT

I checked the HOWTO files with grep, etc., and I did not see mentioned
if LInux could do "cheapernet" connections. I don't really know anything
about cheapernet, or whether it's even still cheaper at the prices
ethernet's going for (unless it can interoperate with a portable),
but will Linux support cheapernet connections?

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From: davis@blackmoor.cc.usm.edu (Jonathan A. Davis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: IBM 3151 terminal
Date: 10 Jun 1994 23:24:53 GMT

Matt Cable (mcable@porthos.tcs.tufts.edu) wrote:
: I just aquired an IBM 3151 terminal for cheap and I'm lookin to connect 
: it to my system.  Has anyone succesfully worked on such a setup?  I 
: don't have any manuals for it.  Any /etc/termcap's entries for one out there?

: Can i use a regular serial cable?  Or will i need a null modem?

: PLEASE help!

: Thanks!

*chuckle*  I wish I only had to deal with them for cheap.  I've got quite a
few sitting as consoles on IBM RS/6000s.  Anyway, I too became tired of
the lack of termcap entries in the default Linux install.  I compiled a 
rather large set of termcaps and use them on my workstations.  They include
such notables as IBM3151, Hazeltine 1500, and IBM HFT (High Function Terminal).
I'll zip it and place it on our anon ftp server.  It will be available from
seabass.st.usm.edu:/pub/linux/termcap.gz

One word of caution, some of these termcap entries work better than others 
(although all I've tried seem to work) and many I've never tested.  So use with 
some caution.

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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: IRC for Linux?
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 22:17:58 GMT

Followup to:  <longyearCr8J6u.Fru@netcom.com>
By author:    longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
>
> bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block) writes:
> 
> >Is there any IRC binaries or source for Linux?
> 
> The source package will compile with only one small problem in the
> Makefile. Linux uses flex rather than lex, so the library used for the
> lexical scanner is "-lfl" rather than "-ll".

Either that or link /usr/lib/libfl.a to /usr/lib/libl.a; that will
solve the same problem for more than IRC.  You may also want to link
/usr/bin/flex to /usr/bin/lex.

        /hpa




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From: berk@netcom.com (Berkey Walker)
Subject: Re: Source for "su" in SlackWare?
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 22:14:46 GMT

In article <2td733$c2l@hasle.oslonett.no>,  <bjorn@oslonett.no> wrote:
>
>In article <CqzIu3.6wM8@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> ,
> clarke@watson.ibm.com (Ed Clarke) writes:
>>The 'su' command doesn't work reliably in the current release of
>>Slackware.  It works to become root, but fails when I try to su
>>to another user (news for instance).  I'm basicly at a 1.0.9 
>>
> [sttgob]
>>
>>Ed Clarke
>>clarke@watson.ibm.com
>
>  Uh - I have 1.0.9 and Slackware, basically from an earlier 
> TransAmeritech with d/l updates. Note that  /bin/su  is setuid root, 
> if it isn't, maybe you'll have the problems you mention ? 
>
>arnica:/bin# ls -l su
>-rwsr-xr-x   1 root     bin          5492 Mar 23 23:58 su*
>
> Maybe you don't need sources, after all...
>
>Bjxrn
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From: benli@hk.super.net (Mr Ben M P Li)
Subject: Performance 486 vs Pentium
Date: 11 Jun 1994 21:20:35 GMT


Hi !  Has anyone out there made some performance comparison between 486
and Pentium running Linux ?  Any notable difference ?

Thanks

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Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.os.os2.setup
From: terjem@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
Subject: Re: SCSI controller for OS/2, DOS, Linux, possibly even NT?
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 23:34:21 GMT

Kenny Crudup (kcrudup@orion.ts.stratus.com) wrote:
: In article <dunnc.771263020@ucsub.colorado.edu>
: dunnc@ucsub.Colorado.EDU (Colin Dunn) says:

: >I thought the Adaptec 1522 would satisfy these requirements, but the OS/2
: >service pack and 2.99 beta have device drivers that do not work with
: >my Adaptec 1522 (based on AIC-6360).

: ...so just grab the old (2.1 GA and SE) version, like everyone else who has
: one did. It's just PIO, and it's old, so what could have changed (improved)?

Isn't 1522 a PIO controller? It is definately not DMA, but it might be 
interrupt driven, not sure if it is.

Well, the Buslogic BT 445S (VLB) works with OS/2, DOS and Linux. 

Terje Marthinussen
terjem@stud.cs.uit.n

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From: gregh@cc.gatech.edu (Greg Hankins)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: getty/agetty
Date: 11 Jun 1994 18:56:01 -0400

In article <2tcp60$pjq@hamilton.maths.tcd.ie>,
Timothy Murphy <tim@maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
>mcable@porthos.tcs.tufts.edu (Matt Cable) writes:
>
>>I'm trying to hook up a friends pc to my gateway 2000 running Linux 1.08 
>>(slackware 1.20).  I've managed to get the login prompt to come up, by 
>>manually invoking agetty 38400 cua1 (and cua0), but he cannot write back...
>>Even then, when I stick it in /etc/inittab, it doesn't even do that.
>
>>Any one want to lead me through the problem, or point me towards some 
>>sources?
>
>Try using mgetty.
>

You could do that.  Or, to solve the problem, you could check out the
Serial-HOWTO, and read the section on setting up terminals (or in this case
your friends PC).  First of all, you're using the wrong device... you
should be using the ttyS{0,1} device.  cua device are for outgoing 
connections, ttyS devices are for incoming connections.

Greg


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Subject: Ick.  Accounting software.
From: christopher.browne@canrem.com (Christopher Browne)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 18:57:00 -0400

Just got version 1.0.8 up and running from the InfoMagic distribution.  A
relatively painless experience.  Lots of things to get set up, but that will
come with time.  Nothing that doesn't involve doing some reading of FMs before
complaining to the net.  (I'm not thrilled with the TeX setup; that's something
to fix, once I have some time.)

However, on to one of the more "mundane" issues.  There is, no doubt, some need
for "personal finance" software in the Linux world.  I've been maintaining
personal books using something called Pha$ar (which is years old, and
nonetheless has features that Quicken took six versions to get, but I
digress!).

Is there anything faintly comparable to Quicken?  Semi-friendly is a bonus.
Automated account reconciliation is a wonderful thing.

A couple of years ago there was a series in UnixWorld implementing an
accounting system in /bin/sh, tossing everything into text files.  I would LOVE
to see something like this, and if anyone has a basic code base for something
of the sort, I'd be happy to assist in hacking something better up.

I can see it now...

Coding in perl...  Reporting using TeX...  Possibly storing data in a gdbm
file...  Maintaining transactions using RCS...

(I spent last week looking at high-end UNIX-based financial packages.  Oracle
sells a nice product, for (gasp!) $300,000 or so.  I'd love to do something
unbelievably quirky for a change.)

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From: barryf@iol.ie (Barry Flanagan)
Subject: Re: Ick.  Accounting software.
Date: 11 Jun 1994 23:41:26 GMT

Christopher Browne (christopher.browne@canrem.com) wrote:

: A couple of years ago there was a series in UnixWorld implementing an
: accounting system in /bin/sh, tossing everything into text files.  I would LOVE
: to see something like this, and if anyone has a basic code base for something
: of the sort, I'd be happy to assist in hacking something better up.

: I can see it now...

: Coding in perl...  Reporting using TeX...  Possibly storing data in a gdbm
: file...  Maintaining transactions using RCS...

: (I spent last week looking at high-end UNIX-based financial packages.  Oracle
: sells a nice product, for (gasp!) $300,000 or so.  I'd love to do something
: unbelievably quirky for a change.)

I am eagerly awaiting delivery of a database system from Revolutionary
Software called /rdb (rsw@rsw.com for details). I've only read the literature
at this point, but it looks like just the ticket, and also comes with an
accounts module by way of a demo of its capabilities.

/rdb implements all the database functions as unix commands, so they are
callable by shell scripts, perl, C, etc. and can be piped to/from any other
unix command.

The Linux version is #149.00. 

Hope this helps.

-Barry

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 23:17:27 GMT

uunet!molly!vlcek (Jim Vlcek) writes:

>James Logajan writes
>> Brandon S. Allbery (bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org) wrote:
>> : mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) says:
>> : | You would be surprised how many people use Unix at work 
>> : | and do not know it.

>Was at CompUSA yesterday evening and - right there in the middle 
>of some Compaqs and other PCs - was a CRT with an AIX login prompt.  

Didn't I already say that???  :)

>Somehow I guessed that this wasn't an item of merchandise.  Of course, 
>I tried to login using a few obvious UNIX login/password combinations, 
>but no luck...

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Crossposted-To: bc.unix
From: mje@posix.co.za (Mark J Elkins)
Subject: Re: Linux and COBOL
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 19:41:44 GMT

In <1994Jun6.115203.9656@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:

>In article <2suq8v$cuk@icebox.mfltd.co.uk>, jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) says:

>The (obsolete) RM/COBOL-85 package works under iBCS emulation.

I heard that too.

Isn't there a Cobol ==> C converter out there?
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From: tzs@u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial)
Date: 10 Jun 1994 23:47:07 GMT

lilo [Dances With Geeks] <lilo@slip-5-16.ots.utexas.edu> wrote:
>> There is a debate on whether a loadable module counts as a derived 
>> work.
>
>Only among lawyers (they make their money by harassing people ;)....the rest
>of us can be pretty certain that a loadable module is not a derived work in
>any meaningful way.  It's derived from the *standard* for loadable modules,

What do you mean "only among lawyers"?  I doubt that there are many lawyers
who think loadable modules are derivative works.

--Tim Smith

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From: jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: News 
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 14:19:53 GMT

oystein@powertech.no (Oystein Homelien) said:
>I have the following files in my /usr/local/lib/news directory.  This is
>C-news.  The amount of disk space used is horrendous, even though I am
>running expire on all groups on news older than 7 days.  This is not
>happening on another machine (SCO) i have here.  Why are the files so big? 
>What is the purpose of the different files?  What could be the reason why
>the space occupied my spool/news and lib/news is so large?

>total 21225
>-rw-rw-r--   1 root     root      1135969 Jun  8 21:10 batchlog
>-rw-rw-r--   1 root     root     11521052 Jun  8 20:30 log

These look like you're not running the 'newsdaily' script. 'newsdaily'
should exist in news/bin/maint/, and it should be run from cron. It will
look through some of the logfiles and email any potentiel problems to the
news administrator.

About why your spool/news consumes a lot of space, I don't know.
Check if you have any articles in your news spool that shouldn't
exist any more (find /usr/spool/news -mtime +7). After that check
if your explist is correct, especially for those groups that contained
too old articles. You may have to run 'mkhistory' (in news/bin/expire),
if your history file is for some reason corrupted.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: stephens@drjazz.demon.co.uk (Stephen Soghoian)
Subject: Re: 40M Syquest Removeable
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:43:18 +0000

root@vortex.usw.nps.navy.mil (root) writes:

>If Linux can utilize a syquest 40 Mb I would like to know also,
>I continually get bad partition table messages when I try to mount
>it. (SCSI version)
>thanks,
>Carl
 am a newbie but I ve got them to work

first "format" the syquest by  mke2fs /dev/sdb
  where sdb is my scsi syquest drive

2nd  mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb /mnt

then use can access the syquest by refering to /mnt
example ls -l /mnt   gives list of files on syquest

hope this helps
Stephen

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
From: keith@ksmith.com (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: IBM 3151 terminal
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 94 00:52:40 GMT

In article <2taso5$fr1@server.st.usm.edu>,
Jonathan A. Davis <davis@blackmoor.cc.usm.edu> wrote:
>Matt Cable (mcable@porthos.tcs.tufts.edu) wrote:
>: I just aquired an IBM 3151 terminal for cheap and I'm lookin to connect 
>: it to my system.  Has anyone succesfully worked on such a setup?  I 
>: don't have any manuals for it.  Any /etc/termcap's entries for one out there?

Be sure to configure it to send a 012 (newline) instead of a 003
(CTRL-C) as the terminiation character.  The latter will cause you major
headaches.

Re-mapping the function keys is a pretty good idea too.

The only thing about that terminal I liked was the keyboard.
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