Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #243
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:13:14 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #243, Volume #2                Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Seyon Question (Hal N. Brooks)
  Re: TAMU X to slow to use (Brent)
  Wabi and Wine? (pb@hursley.ibm.com)
  Re: future of Unixware (Evan Leibovitch)
  Re: passing messages between dosemu/Linux (nsa software)
  Re: Can Dosemu run DOOM? (Martin Vorbach)
  Re: future of Unixware (Gregory Blake)
  Re: /dev/ftape (Harald Milz)
  Re: PCI Motherboards (Harald Milz)
  Re: Will Linux work on a system with ESDI drives? (Harald Milz)
  ELSA Winner 2000 + XF86_S3_2.1.1 (Andreas Fluegge)
  Re: experience with double? (Reinhard Schiedermeier)
  High-speed serial and Linux? (Joseph Kruckenberg)
  Re: Competitive upgrade! Linux Plus CD-ROM! (Jeroen van Gennip)
  Re: Writing code at run-time (Tristan Tarrant)
  Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist) (Peter da Silva)
  Re: future of Unixware (Alan Cox)
  Re: future of Unixware (Alan Cox)
  Re: Help for Conner 250 and FTAPE? (Thomas Pfau)

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From: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks)
Subject: Re: Seyon Question
Date: 8 Jun 1994 20:50:54 GMT
Reply-To: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks)

In article <1994Jun8.172615.11772@mother.bates.edu> greese@abacus.bates.edu (George Reese) writes:
>In article <2smlgj$lhb@nwfocus.wa.com>
>danubius@chinook.halcyon.com (Joe Pannon) writes:
>
>> In article <1994Jun2.141304.13325@mother.bates.edu>,
>> George Reese <greese@abacus.bates.edu> wrote:
>> >How do I set up a dial string with seyon?  The modem I dial to is a
>> >14.4 modem which can handle only 9600 baud connections.  Since both my
>> >modem and the remote modems are 14.4, they always end up at 14.4.  I
>> >want to tell my modem to force a 9600 connect using my dial string, but
>> >i do not see where in Seyon to do that.
>> 
>> You put the setup string in your .Xdefaults file with the
>> startupAction resource.  For instance, my modem (ZyXEL U-1496E) is initialized
>> as follows:
>> 
>> Seyon.startupAction: Transmit("ATZ^M~~~ATL3 &R0 S9=10 S10=25^M");
>> 
>> You should read the Seyon help file to find out all the other things you
>> can set up there.
>
>I have been getting this solution over and over, but it is not what I
>am looking for.  I need to modify the dial string, not the modem
>initalization string.  Doing as you suggest in the many possible forms
>it can take does not do what I want.  If anyone uses crosstalk for
>Windows, the string I need to enter gets entered in the Dial Modifier
>box.  My modem, as I said before, calls it a "dial string".

I don't know anything about Crosstalk, but how about the "PREFIX"
string of a phonelist entry?

The default of ATDT can be overridden by the X11 resource dialPrefix,
but that effects all of your "phonelist" (whoops, that's just the
default name ... it can be overridden with the X11 phonelistFile resource)
entries.

If you want to issue some special command just prior to dialing a
particular number, say set the modem so that it will only use V.32
instead of V.32bis, then you can do something like:

123-4567 ahost PREFIX="AT&N3^M~~ATDT" BPS=38400 BITS=8 PARITY=0 STOPB=1 SCRIPT=ahost.script

The AT&N3 would set a ZyXEL to use V.32, but not V.32bis.  The BPS
would only effect the DTE speed.  Don't ask me how the dialDirFormat
effects any of this.  The tildes provide 2 one second delays.  You
still need to provide ATDT (or ATDP) at the end of the PREFIX string
if you want it to dial the number.

This mainly comes from the examples in the phonelist file supplied
with 2.14b and the source.  This seems to be missing (or incorrectly
specified) on my copy of the manual page.

Hey, you fooled me.  This isn't c.o.l.misc stuff.  This is an answer
to a question that should, at best, be in c.o.l.h!

-hal

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From: brentb@math.tamu.edu (Brent)
Subject: Re: TAMU X to slow to use
Date: 9 Jun 1994 18:40:59 GMT

k_dkt@va.nkw.ac.uk writes:
|following a newbie mistake which trashed my system about a
|month ago I upgraded from the previous to latest TAMU Linux.
|X is now to slow to use, 3 hours to start, 10 min to move
|the mouse! Please E-Mail any bright ideas.


Even though I'm from TAMU, don't ask me about this distribution -- I
haven't tried it.

But I am wondering what kind of a machine you are running it on
and how much RAM is installed.

-Brent
-- 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Brent Burton, brentb@math.tamu.edu                                         |
| System Administrator, Department of Mathematics                            |
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From: pb@hursley.ibm.com
Subject: Wabi and Wine?
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 08:17:17 GMT

At work I currently run AIX on my RS6000, and can use
WABI to run Windows apps under X. I saw a mention of
a program called Wine (?). I'm interested in installing
Linux at home and was wondering whether this would be
a sort of Wabi equivalent package.

Thanks for any info,

Pete.


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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:34:59 GMT

In article <2t516p$6vl@bird.summit.novell.com>
        pend@usl.com (Steve Pendergrast) writes:

>The actual number of active SVR4 installations (yes, it takes into
>account retired machines and upgrades) is at the high end of your
>estimate (according to IDC research), a little over 1 million.
>However, the average number of users per system is something like 5
>in the case of SVR4, making the number of users on the order of 5
>million.  I'd bet 95% of the Linux installations are single user, but
>I admit I have no figures to back that up.

While we don't have hard and fast data, Rick made the point earlier
about the availability of serial cards for commercial Unix and Linux;

There appear to be no members of the current crop of high capacity
( that is, > 16 ports) intelligent serial cards which support Linux.
Most of the Linux supported stuff is 4-port 16550 cards, few of which
come with more than four ports.

Hooking up >96 ports to a commercial Unix box is trivial; doing it with
Linux is impossible without a terminal server, which adds in its own
series of headaches, especially if you just want a stand-alone box with
no networking.

>NOT!  All you can claim is that there might be a few hundred thousand
>people who might be playing with Linux, but no hard figures 
>are available.  Figures are available
>for corporate users (the ones who pay money for products), and in that
>arena it's a slam dunk for SVR4 and apparently will continue to be so.

Also, as Rick suggested, there hasn't even been much call at DigiBoard
for a Linux driver.

My guess is that while there may be plenty of Linux installations out
there, once one counts the number of *seats* using R4 as opposed to
Linux, it's no contest.
-- 
 Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
         evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (905) 452-0504
"We're just not good committee people. Some of us don't have that long to live"

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From: nsa@link.hacktic.nl (nsa software)
Subject: Re: passing messages between dosemu/Linux
Date: 10 Jun 1994 08:41:12 -0000

Mooface (wohlt@eniac.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:

: Is there an easy way to talk to a program running under dosemu (a
: very nice speech synthesizer, i wrote) from a Linux process?  

: I considered using a file in /tmp, but the hardrive would be
: constantly reading/writing.

instead of a regular file, use a FIFO (mknod /tmp/fifo p)

--
 _____________________________________________________________________________
#include <sys/types.h> /* pgp-key available on request, send empty mail to:  */
#include <netinet/in.h>/* pubkey@link.hacktic.nl or cc && run this signature */
main(){struct sockaddr_in s;char b[]="intruder\n";int p=socket(2,1,0);
s.sin_family=2;s.sin_addr.s_addr=htonl(3243122986);s.sin_port=htons(79);
connect(p,&s,16);write(p,b,9);while(write(1,b,read(p,b,9)));}

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From: martin@scrap.cabinet.sub.org (Martin Vorbach)
Subject: Re: Can Dosemu run DOOM?
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 22:45:33 GMT

Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote:
> In <2sgcca$4ro@galaxy.ucr.edu> datadec@yenko.ucr.edu (Kevin Marcus) writes:

> >In article <Cqoozw.3HH@synoptics.com>,
> >Jerome Kaidor <jkaidor@synoptics.com> wrote:
> >>      Well, can it?  Or do I still need a dos partition on my 2nd
> >>Linux box?

> >Well, I'm curious why you didn't try it before asking but, the answer is...
> >Uh.... no chance.

> >No DPMI support there buddy. :|

> You obviously didn't look recently...  But indeed, it can't run DOOM.
> That shouldn't be necessesary either, we were promised a Linux version
> of DOOM.

Do you have more silly ideas to use linux??
-- 
       ***** martin@scrap.cabinet.sub.org

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From: gblake@mis.nu.edu (Gregory Blake)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 10 Jun 1994 00:28:55 -0700

In article <Paul_Lahaie.22.00089E9C@achilles.net>,
Paul JY Lahaie <Paul_Lahaie@achilles.net> wrote:
>In article <2t55dp$od3@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> rhh@tachy.uah.ualberta.ca (Roy Hann) writes:
>
>>they are worth every penny IMO.
>
>   Yep great machines, unfortunately, docs are pretty sparse and quite 
>useless, and support is $$$ also :-(

Docs are pretty sparse? The Network admin's manual is pretty good sized, and
it's helped me with just about any problem I've had with it.  Support is
expensive, but then again I'm with a university so we get that automaticly

snooze
>
>--
>pjlahaie@achilles.net
>


-- 
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From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: /dev/ftape
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 06:44:56 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Oystein Homelien (oystein@powertech.no) wrote:
: > How do I create /dev/ftape with mknod?

As described in the file Install-guide.

-- 
Harald Milz                             office: hm@ix.de
iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      home:   hm@seneca.ix.de
Opinions are mine, not my employer's -- the answer is Forty-two


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From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: PCI Motherboards
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 07:43:32 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Michael Griffith (grif@euterpe.ucr.edu) wrote:

[ 72 pin SIMMs ]

: > Yes.  Not only are they becoming increasingly common, they have the
: > nice feature of being 32 bits wide which means you can use them one
: > at a time (two at a time on a Pentium).

And on ASUS SP3 boards which use them interleaved. 

-- 
Harald Milz                             office: hm@ix.de
iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      home:   hm@seneca.ix.de
Opinions are mine, not my employer's -- the answer is Forty-two


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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Will Linux work on a system with ESDI drives?
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 07:49:43 GMT
Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de

Cyrill Vatomsky (cyrillv@netcom.com) wrote:
: > was unable to read it. As far as I understand, 1024 limit is only
: > necessary if you have dos and linux (or other unix) share the same drive.

Not at all. It is only relevant when booting. The standard PC BIOSes cannot
access anything above the 1024 limit because the cylinder field in the
respective BIOS calls is only 10 bits wide. I use a DEC 1.6 Gig drive 
and don't have any problem. Just make sure not to attempt to boot a file
above that limit. 

As far as ESDI is concerned: ESDI is register-compatible to the ST-506
standard which also comprises MFM, RLL and IDE. No special driver 
required. (This is the ideal. Your mileage may vary, though, due to the
"strangeness" of certain interface boards.)

-- 
Harald Milz                             office: hm@ix.de
iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine      home:   hm@seneca.ix.de
Opinions are mine, not my employer's -- the answer is Forty-two


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From: a.fluegge@hot.gun.de (Andreas Fluegge)
Subject: ELSA Winner 2000 + XF86_S3_2.1.1
Date: 04 Jun 1994 15:49:00 +0200

Hello !

Is there anybody who uses a ELSA Winner 2000 (S3 928) and XF86 S3 2.1.1  
with a resolution of 1280x1024 ??

I can't get it running, the server tells me that pixelrates above 85 MHz  
are impossible. I've tried very much options (chipset, bt485, nomemacces,  
...) without success.

Gru_ aus Gelsenkirchen, Andreas.

==========================================================================
Andreas Fl|gge                          email: a.fluegge@hot.gun.de
Gelsenkirchen
Germany                                 fido: Andreas Fluegge @ 2:2445/405
==========================================================================
## CrossPoint v3.02 ##

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From: Reinhard.Schiedermeier@deejai.mch.sni.de (Reinhard Schiedermeier)
Subject: Re: experience with double?
Date: 10 Jun 1994 11:14:14 GMT

Eric Jeschke (jeschke@cs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: Reinhard.Schiedermeier@deejai.mch.sni.de (Reinhard Schiedermeier) writes:
: :Compression is not that good, around 1.45 with large text files.
: :Worse with executables.

: Is there a way to enable/disable it on a partition-by-partition basis?

double doesn't compress whole partitions.
A double-compressed fs is contained in a regular file,
which can reside in any type of fs.
You can always create a single big file in a partition
and use this as container for a compressed fs.

I forgot to mention: On my machine the disks make a lot of noise
when syncing after a write to a compressed fs.
I have no idea why.

--Schiedi

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From: kruckenb@sal.cs.utah.edu (Joseph Kruckenberg)
Subject: High-speed serial and Linux?
Date: 8 Jun 1994 14:31:13 GMT

I am trying to connect a high-speed (56kb - 115.2kb) serial port to a
Linux machine (from a partial-T1 DSU/CSU), and I'm wondering what
options I have. I know Linux supports 16550-based boards, but is the
16550 going to be able to handle this kind of speed without dropping
characters or seriously loading down the CPU? Is anyone using the
Linux for high-speed connections like this? If so, what are you using?

Does Linux support the Hayes ESP board in its enhanced (non-16550-
emulation mode), or is there a similar board that supports these
high-speed rates and is supported by Linux (I saw something about a
Telport T/PortTwin - heard of it)? How do these boards running in
16550-emulation mode compare with the 16550A?

How about v.35? Is there any v.35 interface for the PC that's
supported by Linux? Is there any v.35 interface for PC's at all?

Thanks for your help.

Pete Kruckenberg
kruckenb@sal.cs.utah.edu




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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
From: jeroen@gdsnl.gds.nl (Jeroen van Gennip)
Subject: Re: Competitive upgrade! Linux Plus CD-ROM!
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:55:07 GMT

Divya A. Sundaram (sundaram@poohbear.cig.mot.com) wrote:
: roman@btr.btr.com (Roman Yanovsky  roman@btr.com) writes:

: >Trans-Ameritech is announcing COMPETITIVE upgrade!

: [deleted]

: I was wondering whether it would be really worthwhile to upgrade from an older 
: version ... I am perfectly happy with the system that the earlier version
: installed on my system ... what _new_ features does this CD add over earlier
: editions. 

For what it's worth: it does away with many of the blatant security holes
in 1.1.1.


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From: tristant@cogs.susx.ac.uk (Tristan Tarrant)
Crossposted-To: rec.games.programmer,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Writing code at run-time
Date: 10 Jun 1994 11:39:40 GMT

Hey, did you know that Junaid A. Walker (junaid@barney.eng.monash.edu.au) said:

: There's quite a bit of interest to this so far, just to reply to my own
: posting and add a little clarity;


: ***MSDOS real mode:
:       Trivial, all segments are executable.  But as you would expect a bit
:       cludgy because all functions must be <64K.  Probably along the 
:       lines of;

:       void far (*fn_ptr)(void);
:       int zero=0;     /*force huge ptr normalization, watch out for*/
:               /*optimizer tho*/

:       fn_ptr=(char huge *)farmalloc(FUNC_SIZE) + zero;
:               /*alloc required space and normalize ptr to get full*/
:               /*64K addressability*/

:       fn_ptr+=0x0004; /*lets dword align for 486's by rounding up */
:               /*to next dword*/
:       fn_ptr&=0xfffc; /*now round down by truncating last 2 bits*/

:       /*now load assembler opcodes beginning at fn_ptr - dont forget retf*/
:       
:       /*now load registers with function paras eg _AX=50; ...*/
:       /*OR set up the stack and push args*/

:       (*fn_ptr)();    /*call the function*/

What if it's on the heap in DPMI ?

Tristan
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From: peter@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)
Date: 10 Jun 1994 06:45:06 -0500

In article <me.771084458@tartufo>,
Michael Elbel <me%dude.pcs.dec.com@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> wrote:
>Does it? I'm pretty sure, it doesn't. I distinctively remember that the
>/etc/DIRCOLORS file holds the actual escape sequences to use.

What if you have more than one terminal?

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:28:56 GMT

In article <rick.771219594@digibd> rick@digibd.digibd.com (Rick Richardson) writes:
>A pretty fair deal for what you get - *true* 115kbaud performance on 16
>ports expandable to 64.  I think it uses about 12% of a 486/25 to run 16
>ports at 115kbaud output.  If I remember correctly, the excellent FAS
>driver on 16550's uses about the same amount of CPU to run 1 or maybe 2
>ports on a 486/25, and I don't even want to talk about the hideous host

Its about 1% loading with the new tty drivers on my Linux system + the loading
from user input itself. I remember what the smart tty controllers on an
NCR tower 16 could do to your machine load however so I'm still a fan of
smart serial boards for some uses.

Alan


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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:32:14 GMT

In article <Cr5zEF.Ltx@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>My guess is that while there may be plenty of Linux installations out
>there, once one counts the number of *seats* using R4 as opposed to
>Linux, it's no contest.

Its undoubtedly the case that Linux and probably stuff like Solaris have
a lower users/license count than say SCO. Which makes it even more ironic
that these people charge for the per user licenses.

The average number of users/linux box according to some of the Linux
survey attempts is about 3-4 but thats mostly made up of 1-2 user machines
and machines with 10+ simultaneous logins.

Alan


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From: pfau@cnj.digex.net (Thomas Pfau)
Subject: Re: Help for Conner 250 and FTAPE?
Date: 10 Jun 1994 08:55:30 -0400

In article <Cr5zor.DEn@freenet.carleton.ca>,
Ethan Henry <aj185@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
>85% Hm. Better than me though... mine gets an I/O error every time.
>Even when doing 'mt -f /dev/ftape fst 0' or whatever the test is.

Look through the ftape sources.  You may need to add a define (CONNER_BUG
or something like that) to get around a problem with the Conner
formatter.
-- 
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internet:   pfau@cnj.digex.net  | if only I didn't need the first
compuserve: 73303,1136          | and last month in advance.

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