Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #241
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Date:     Fri, 10 Jun 94 04:13:10 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #241, Volume #2                Fri, 10 Jun 94 04:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: One downsmanship (Was:Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist)) (Mark Sienkiewicz)
  newbie need help on running term (~{@O76~})
  More About Compiling Term. (Alan Rovner)
  Re: future of Unixware (Beverly J. Brown)
  Linux/XFree86 with a Matrox video display adapter? (Bob Crosson)
  Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware) (Michael R. McAleese)
  Re: Conner or Colorado Tape drives - OK with Linux (Dennis Flaherty)

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From: mark@elea.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: One downsmanship (Was:Re: Linux vs *BSD (new twist))
Date: 9 Jun 1994 17:26:07 GMT

In article <Cr2JxG.9v5@metapro.dialix.oz.au>,
Rob Masters <rdm@metapro.DIALix.oz.au> wrote:
>
>Who first used UNIX on an 11/23 with 16 users in 128k Ram, runs FreeBSD on a
>386sx-25/4Mb and /still/ supports a Xenix 286 system that handles 16 users 
>in 1MB!
>
>(Who knows where this will all end! ;-)

It will end when all the people who used dinky-size PDP11's have said
what they used. :)  It's a welcome diversion from "What is 386BSD 1.0"
and "What is different between Linux and BSD".


Mark, who first used an 11/70, but moved on to a PDP 11/23 with 128k RAM
a disk controller so lame it had to be polled for I/O completion.  Only
4 concurrent users though...

:):):)


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From: fanl@cse.fau.edu (~{@O76~})
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: newbie need help on running term
Date: 10 Jun 1994 01:54:54 GMT


I am trying to run term1.11 ( I get error to compile term 1.15 so stick
to this early version first ) while sth confused me. Here is what I did
and what the problem is:

I compiled term 1.11 both on Linux and sun. I use minicom to dial in to
my host machine, run term:

        exec term -l $HOME/log -s 9600

then quit minicom without hang up. At local ( which already running x )
I type:

        term -r -l $HOME/log -s 9600 \ < /dev/modem > /dev/modem &

        then: trsh
        I got: Connect: No such file or directory.

according to the term.HOWTO included, I should get term running and can
start running x on  the host, but it just returned to my local prompt
and nothing seemed going on. I have no idea what to do next?

Can anyone kindly point me out what is the way out, what should I do
some special set up? 


Many thanx!

fanl@cse.fau.edu

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From: alanr@lacamas.pen.tek.com (Alan Rovner)
Subject: More About Compiling Term.
Date: 9 Jun 1994 17:51:31 GMT

Hello, yesterday I asked for help compiling Term on a Sun.  Someone pointed
out that a new version was available on sunsite.  I downloaded the new version
and it compiled fine, although with lots of warning messages regarding
lack of function prototypes, or similar.  So I'll continue to explore this
new version and see what happens.

It's available as term117d.tar.gz in the /pub/Linux/Incoming directory on
sunsite.unc.edu.

Thanks again for your help,
Al Rovner
alanr@lacamas.pen.tek.com

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From: bjb@shore.net (Beverly J. Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: future of Unixware
Date: 10 Jun 1994 01:59:50 -0400
Reply-To: bjb@shore.net

> In article <8565@heimdall.sdrc.com> crbalsn@axpo5.sdrc.com (Jim Balson) writes:
> >     Don't waste your breath trying to sell me on Linux, I have already used
> >Esix, which offers everything Linux is striving for, but with an SVR4 kernel.
                                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^
IMO that's reason enough not to use either ESIX or UnixWare :} 

Beverly J. Brown
bjb@shore.net
beverly@datacube.com

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From: crosson@cam.nist.gov (Bob Crosson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Linux/XFree86 with a Matrox video display adapter?
Date: 9 Jun 94 20:36:53 GMT

A friend of mine wants to explore Linux.  His major concern
is that his video adapter may not be supported.  Has anyone
run Linux and XFree86 on a Matrox MGA IMP/3/V/H?  This is a
card that can do 1600x1200 and uses the VESA Local Bus.  I
don't know what chipset is on the card.  My friend will be
trying to determine this.

I've looked in the Linux Hardware Compatibility List (I didn't
expect to find it there) and the XFree86 FAQ.  The only mention
I've found is that XFree86 is available from Metro Link that
will support some type of Matrox hardware.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bob Crosson
crosson@cam.nist.gov

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From: michael@angmar.dataflux.bc.ca (Michael R. McAleese)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Multiport Bored and Linux (Was: future of Unixware)
Date: 8 Jun 1994 20:27:20 -0700

In article <rick.771073998@digibd>,
Rick Richardson <rick@digibd.digibd.com> wrote:
>[bits deleted]
>I estimate the size of the PC multiport
>serial market at $200M, or about 2 million ports/year.  70% of
>that is Unix (all flavors), or 1.4 million ports/year.  I don't
>know what the breakdown is after that, but lets be conservative:
>[some conservative figures deleted]
>       -Linux 0%               0 ports/year

     On the other hand, since the multiport market isn't closed to
Linux (it workes quite well with dumb multiport boards, like the
four port STB board I have in my Linux box), deciding that Linux gets
zero ports/year in your proposal seems a little off.  What percentage
of your figures cover the intelligent boards?

-- 
           Michael R. McAleese - michael@angmar.dataflux.bc.ca
          Origin: Angmar, Internet Access for Frivolous Pursuits.
               - Mile Zero on the Information Superhighway -

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From: dennisf@denix.elk.miles.com (Dennis Flaherty)
Subject: Re: Conner or Colorado Tape drives - OK with Linux
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 05:09:09 GMT

In article <2srsbj$h9r@cyberspace.com>,
Joe Julian <jjulian@cyberspace.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jun 1994 00:31:28 +0000 Stephen Soghoian wrote:
> 
> :  
> : Hi There

Hi.

> : I am a Linux newbie. Id like to get an internal tape drive that
> : works well with both MS-DOS and Linux. Several people have said
> : to avoid the Colorado 120 or 240MB. 

Yes, the most popular floppy drive is also the slowest and least
reliable.  "Never underestimate the power of marketing to undermine
technological progress."

> : Has anyone got experience with the Conner 250MB drive?
> : Or any other recommendations for moderate price drives that
> : work with the minimum of hassle?
> 
> : Thanks in Advance.
> 
> The Conner 250 works quite well with Linux (I have an entry in my 
> crontabs that backs up my user path nightly on to one.)  For DOS
> however, Conner Backup Basics (CBB) is obnoxious.  It only backs
> up local DOS drives, and only does full backups.  If this isn't
> what you want to do you have two options.  You can purchase
> Conner's Backup Exec, which will backup network volumes, as well
> as do partial backups, or you can mount your DOS partition in 
> Linux and backup using tar (or whatever other you like...  I use
> tar).  

You can call Conner to order an upgrade to your formatting software.
Version 1.1 of CBB for DOS and 1.2 for Windows has these features.
Plus lots of bugfixes, and even a couple of fresh bugs, unfortunately.

-- 
Dennis T. Flaherty              Home: dennisf@denix.elk.miles.com
Flaherty Nanobreweries          Work: dennisf@se01.elk.miles.com
     Oatmeal Stout: It's the Right Thing to Drink!

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