Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #224
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:13:11 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #224, Volume #2                 Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Backspace problems (Malcolm MacArthur)
  Looking for Linux BBS Software (Christoph Lameter)
  Reasonable BBS for LINUX (Christoph Lameter)
  Re: Using CD-ROM recorder with Linux (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
  CQ de sm0fcj + k (Bjorn Ekwall)
  Re: AHA-1542CF+QUANTUM L525S (ccurley@orion)
  Re: Linux for the world? (Lars Wirzenius)
  Re: Kermit is NOT freely distributable (Sten Drescher)
  Re: Sangband on Linux (Peter Berger)
  Re: [Help] Memory PARITY Error? (Pedro Baltazar Valconcelos)
  Source for "su" in SlackWare? (Ed Clarke)
  Re: Postscript filter for phone book??? (J. M. O'Donnell)
  Re: Anyone running XFree in 256 colors on a notebook? (sidney hellman)
  Re: Backspace problems (Andries Brouwer)
  Please recommend GUI Builder for Motif (Thomas B. Pedersen)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: mcscs1mm@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Malcolm MacArthur)
Subject: Re: Backspace problems
Date: 6 Jun 94 17:39:30 +0100

In article <1994Jun6.112024.1@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, ddelsig@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
> Robert Adams writes:
>> I'm having some problems with my backspace key in programs with
>> interactive prompts like ftp.  In my C-shell, backspace works
>> fine, but in ftp, backspace produces ^H sequences.  I suspect
>> this is a problems with agetty, but I don't know where to start
>> to solve this problem.
> Use:
> 
> stty erase ^H
> from the command line and see if that doesn't work.  (You need to type '^H',
> not hit CTRL-H).
> Does anyone know how to do this on a VAX?

It can't be done, but there is a program available for VAX/VMS called BOSS 
which allows you to 'exchange' the delete key with another key. Disadvantage is 
it needs to spawn off another subprocess to do this. Advantage is you can use 
BOSS to have several interactive jobs going from the one terminal (a bit like 
"screen", but you can't detach them...). Wrks on VAX and AXP machines.

Available via anonymous FTP from ftp.wku.edu somewhere, or in ftp.spc.edu in 
directory [.MACRO32.SAVESETS].

Disclaimer: I just use BOSS daily and spent a while figuring out how to make it
            run on the Alpha (The AXP code was done by me...).
--
Malcolm MacArthur       M.McArthur@zippy.dct.ac.uk

My views are not my own. I got them out of a book.

------------------------------

From: Christoph.Lameter@f961.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Christoph Lameter)
Subject: Looking for Linux BBS Software
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 07:32:28 -0800

Volker Schuermann wrote in a message to All:

 VS> From: Volker Schuermann <Volker.Schuermann@unnet.wupper.DE>
 VS> Organization: THE UNDERGROUND NETWORK (BBS: +49 202 462114 /
 VS> 4660234)

Hallo Volker, wenn du schon mal hier verfuegbar bist....

 VS> In article <2saqvs$7n9@bbs.dsnet.com>,
 VS>             System Administrator writes:

>     : > : 1)  RIP graphics

 VS> Is there a special communication software in the market, I
 VS> haven't heard of yet, which allows to work with RIP
 VS> graphics?

RIP graphics one of the newest features of BBSes in the US. Mustang with
their Wildcat BBS initiated it and they have also published free terminal
software (RIPTERM) to be used when calling a BBS that supports RIPTERM.

I doubt that MBOX could make any use of these features with the current user
interface.

I have tested MBOX 2.1 and I found the user interface very confusing. There
is no menu for the new user and calling up the help function gives a big
list of available functions. My users are barely computer literate. I cannot
dare to offer them such an interface. Is there something that could be done
about it?
I really like the other features that you offer like the integration with
usenet, cdrom access etc.

Any display that my users get MUST include a menu of available options that
guide them in the simplest way possible through the usage of the BBS.


------------------------------

From: Christoph.Lameter@f961.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Christoph Lameter)
Subject: Reasonable BBS for LINUX
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 07:40:13 -0800

I am currently running MAXIMUS under FrontDoor and I would like to get LINUX
running. But I need a replacement for Maximus. The requirements that I have
are not that hard:

1) Easy User Interface (ANSI Color would be nice)
2) Integration with UUCP and USENET.
3) A good facility for Brownsing and Upload/Download of Files.

I have tried PBBS and MBOX 2.1. PBBS has a good simple user interface but
does not allow UUCP and USENET. MBOX 2.1 has good features but the user
interface is unusable. The current version 2.1 is also buggy under Linux
1.1.18.


------------------------------

Date: Sat, 04 Jun 1994 12:29:20 +0200
From: Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
Subject: Re: Using CD-ROM recorder with Linux


Hello Phil Howard and all others,

on 03.06.94 Phil Howard wrote to All in USENET.COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC:

PH> Is there any information about using a CD-ROM recorder with Linux?
PH> I scanned a whole collection of FAQS for the keyword "record" and
PH> had zero matches.  It appears the subject is not discussed by any
PH> of these (including how-to's).
PH>
PH> I'm downloading files matching "mkisofs" now as I suspect there
PH> might be a clue there.  Any additional comments or suggestions?

I guess Adam J. Richter has mastered the latest YGGDRASIL release
under Linux (with mkisofs) and written under Linux (!) with his own
routines to a Philips CDD 521 recorder.

Adam wrote he had included his routines into YGGDRASIL's kernel
source tree - but I did not find them yet. mkisofs-1.01 (done by
Eric Youngdale, "sponsored" by YGGDRASIL) really is contained on
the YGGDRASIL "Plug & Play Linux" Summer 94 release.

I have a Philips CDD 521 at work, and I would like to give it
a try.

Adam, can you help us?

Greetings ... Eberhard


------------------------------

From: bj0rn@blox.se (Bjorn Ekwall)
Subject: CQ de sm0fcj + k
Date: 6 Jun 94 17:36:21 GMT

Are my eyes just extra sensitive to ham callsigns, or does Linux
have a special attraction for people such as us?
Although being more or less QRT the last 10 years, I still keep
my license alive...

73 de sm0fcj + @

Bjorn Ekwall == bj0rn@blox.se

------------------------------

From: ccurley@orion
Subject: Re: AHA-1542CF+QUANTUM L525S
Date: 6 Jun 1994 17:25:57 GMT

     Chris Gatcombe wrote in article <1994Jun1.095124.8804@jet.uk> :
>
>In <CqorrJ.BM9@wlbr.iipo.gtegsc.com> zeller@zot.iipo.gtegsc.com (Craig Zeller) writes:

>If the original poster doesn't have any documentation, this might be
>difficult! Try getting in touch with Quantum and getting hold of any
>technical documentation. I just installed this weekend an IBM drive and

I needed some the info on my Quantum PD1800S and found it very easy to
obtain. Called their 800 tech support number, 800 826 8022 (I think), and
got directed by their phone system to their "Fax on Demand System" at
800 434 7532 (800 4 DISK FAX is how they tell you the number). It might
take a few tries to get thru, but I just tried it and it worked fine. If
you don't have a fax then this is obviously of no use to you, but gave me
loads of information.

>Adaptec controller, and looking through the Adaptec SCSI-select on-board
>setup utility there is a feature for turning on (or off) the 'send unit
>startup' command. I think, that on my IBM drive this was set on by
>default, and on the Adaptec it was set off by default.
>On my machine I can easily hear the IBM drive spin up just after the
>Adaptec message appears.
>
>Chris.

--
Charles Curley                      Internet:  ccurley@atl.ge.com
Martin Marietta Labs, Moorestown    Voice:     609 866 6461
Distributed Processing Lab          Facsimile: 609 866 6543
Moorestown Corporate Center, Building 145, Moorestown, NJ 08057


------------------------------

From: wirzeniu@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: Linux for the world?
Date: 6 Jun 1994 20:11:09 +0300

ericy@cais.cais.com (Eric Youngdale) writes:
> >You've never lived in a country which has all the heritage of viking
> >plunderers burning the churches etc. 
> 
>       No, that was the Danes :-).

And the Swedes and the Norwegians.  Well, it was all rather the same
thing at the time. :-)

The Finns had sauna, they didn't need to go burn other people's churches.

Not that it has much to do with Linus: he's from Transsylvania, and _his_
ancestors had much more fun biting people than the Vikings had burning
churches.

-Lars
 (of Martian heritage)

------------------------------

From: smd@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Sten Drescher)
Subject: Re: Kermit is NOT freely distributable
Date: 06 Jun 1994 16:34:06 GMT

In article <ann-4190.770502498@cs.cornell.edu>, torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi (Linus Torvalds) writes:

 Torvalds> I got a mail from Frank da Cruz (author of C-kermit) today,
 Torvalds> in which he pointed out that the copyright on kermit does not
 Torvalds> allow commercial distribution without written permission of
 Torvalds> Columbia University's Office of Kermit Development and
 Torvalds> Distribution.  I'm afraid this probably means most of the
 Torvalds> linux CD-ROM distributions (and other commercial
 Torvalds> distributions) are probably in violation of that copyright.

 Torvalds> As the kermit team gets the money used for development by
 Torvalds> selling books and distribution fees and the like, they
 Torvalds> obviously wouldn't be exactly thrilled about this (aside from
 Torvalds> it not being ethical, money or no money).  I have to admit to
 Torvalds> not having been aware of the copyright restriction myself (I
 Torvalds> always thought C-kermit was "just there", silly me, but then
 Torvalds> I don't make commercial distributions either).

 Torvalds> Anyway, I hope the commercial distributions will either
 Torvalds> remove their kermit distributions or contact Columbia
 Torvalds> University soonest..

        I've been conversing with Frank about this (it was spawned by a
query about kermit being removed from the Yggdrasil CD - he mentioned
his talking to Linus), and he seemed to feel that the distribution
makers should know that they could contact Columbia for permission.  I
feel that the language of the Commercial Distribution policy was rigid
enough that it didn't look like Columbia would relax the requirement to
purchase the manuals, but I don't think I pursuaded Frank of this.
--
Sten Drescher                   2709 13th St #1248
smd@floyd.brooks.af.mil         Brooks AFB, TX 78235
#include <disclaimer.h>
We don't have an administration policy on long-run fiscal policy at the
moment.
        - Alice Rivlin, Deputy Director of the Office of Management and
Budget, quoted in _The Washington Post_

------------------------------

From: Peter Berger <peterb@lm.net>
Crossposted-To: rec.games.roguelike.angband
Subject: Re: Sangband on Linux
Date: 6 Jun 1994 13:58:47 -0400

In article <2st1vd$j0o@ousrvr.oulu.fi>,
Ritvaliisa Snellman <rlsnell@phoenix.oulu.fi> wrote:
>
>  Has anyone compiled SAngband on Linux, if so does a precompiled version 
>exist on any ftp-site, or do i have to compile it myself. Is it even possible
>to compile it on Linux ?

SAngband and Linux are not happy together.  The Linux BSD curses package is
broken beyond all recognition (which, by the way, is a good reason in and
of itself to switch to NetBSD :-).  I have tried to use ncurses instead, but
there seem to be serious incompatibilities between the SAngband code and
ncurses.  The last version I tried this with was 0.8 ... perhaps I'll see
if he cleaned up later versions sufficiently to allow ncurses to work.  I
don't have too much time to devote to the project, unfortunately --
however, if anyone should successfully get SAngband working, please send
patches to the author, and perhaps also drop a note to
angband-devteam@telerama.lm.com.


-- 
........................................................................
Peter G. Berger, Esq.  
Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh
Internet: peterb@telerama.lm.com  Phone: 412/481-3505  Fax: 412/481-8568

------------------------------

From: pbv@oat.ncc.up.pt (Pedro Baltazar Valconcelos)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: [Help] Memory PARITY Error?
Date: 6 Jun 1994 12:55:58 GMT

  I've been trying to solve this problem for the last couple
of days, and I've think I've reached a conclusion:

  1) I first tried to change the drivers for the ET4000 video
     board (ftp'ed to a site mirroring cica...). The drivers
     worked, but after a day I got the `memory parity' error
     again...
  2) Then I tried fidling with some of the bios/chipset options:
     ram wait-states, adapter shadow rom,... and that worked!
     I just had to remove video rom shadowing and set the
     ram wait-states to 1 w/s (the recomended setting for my
     70ns simms). Since that I never had any problems.

I am convinced that the shadow rom was the cause of the problem,
and it is perfectly understandable why Linux doesn't complain
about it: it doesn't care about the video board BIOS at all,
whether it is in rom or ram!

--
Pedro Vasconcelos                      email: pbv@ncc.up.pt 
Centro de Informatica da Universidade do Porto
PORTO - PORTUGAL
===========================================================
Q:  Doctor, how many autopsies have you performed on dead people?
A:  All my autopsies have been performed on dead people.

------------------------------

From: clarke@watson.ibm.com (Ed Clarke)
Subject: Source for "su" in SlackWare?
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 16:51:39 GMT

The 'su' command doesn't work reliably in the current release of
Slackware.  It works to become root, but fails when I try to su
to another user (news for instance).  I'm basicly at a 1.0.9 
kernel with few patches to other things.  Even root can't su
to another user.   Found this out when I tried to have innwatch
started by /usr/lib/news/etc/rc.news ...

Does anyone know where the source to 'su' is kept?  I've pulled a
bunch of '.tgz' files from tsx-11, but haven't come across the right
one yet - and there are lots and lots to go ...


Ed Clarke
clarke@watson.ibm.com

------------------------------

From: odonnell@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (J. M. O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: Postscript filter for phone book???
Date: 6 Jun 1994 14:58 MST

In article <jdlCquJKr.IHM@netcom.com>, jdl@netcom.com (James D. Levine) writes...
>Does anybody know of a Postscript (or PCL) filter that will format ascii
>into something compact and attractive, suitable for a small or tiny phone
>book?  Preferably it would print small enough to generate a pocket-sized, or
>even wallet-sized directory.

I have set of routines to do a thing similar to this.  The package is based on
TeX, which I then print to a PostScript printer.  At this point I don't have
pure PostScript formatting routines.  The package consists of the following
parts and capabilities:

(1) all phone book entries are contained in files of the form letter-a.tex,
letter-b.tex,... letter-z.tex

(2) a tex style file which prompts to 
format the phone book to use a full size legal letter pages
or to print wallet size pages.  In the case of wallet size pages, several pages
are printed on one legal letter sheet, with guides lines for cutting, so that
the smaller pages can be stappled together.
In both formats, pages are numbered in the bottom right, and in teh top right
are automatically labelled with the first and last letters of the entries on
that page.

(3) entry searching routines
I use three methods for looking at the phone-book.  I print wallet sized pages
and staple them together.  I keep full size pages as a dvi file, and use xdvi
(or any opther dvi previewer) to scan thru on the screen,
I have written a shell script to search the entries for selected text,
eg. the command phone-book bill will print all entries for anybody with the name
bill.  You can search on any part of the entry (name, address, phone, work
phone, fax number,...  Searches are case insensitive.  The script displays only
the text part of the entry, the surrounding tex commands are removed from the
display.

Anybody interested should Email me.  If there is sufficient interest, I will
submit it to an archive site.

John.

------------------------------

From: sid@ldgo.columbia.edu (sidney hellman)
Subject: Re: Anyone running XFree in 256 colors on a notebook?
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 17:50:33 GMT

In article <1994Jun4.041543.6223@martha.utcc.utk.edu>, peek@mathsun1 (Michael S. Peek (lab)) writes:
> 
> I had a chance to play with a multimedia laptop from BIT computers for a
> couple of days.  It has a WD90c24A-ZZ video chip.  I got the SVGA to work
> by forcing X to support WD90C30.  The only problems I had was that there's
> a known bug - when you exit X on the 24 chip, it doesn't restore the video
> mode correctly.  None of the SVGALIB workarounds helped either.  I had to
> reboot the machine to get the screen back.  (If anyone has a solution to
> this - let me know!  I want to buy one of those laptops soon.)
> 
> 
If this is the same problem that the NEC has, I just turn the screen off 
and on, by pushing the button that is depressed when the cover is closed.  
It seems that this button does not only turn of the light, but shuts down
the video chip, so when it is released, the chip is reset.  Try it.

                        Sid  


-- 
Sid Hellman at the Passcal Instrument Center | 
Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory             | 
of Columbia University                       | 
sid@ldeo.columbia.edu    (914)365-8728       |          Needs Tuna Fish.

------------------------------

From: aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Backspace problems
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 15:44:16 GMT

adams@ms.uky.edu (Robert Adams) writes:

: I'm having some problems with my backspace key in programs with
: interactive prompts like ftp.  In my C-shell, backspace works
: fine, but in ftp, backspace produces ^H sequences.  I suspect
: this is a problems with agetty, but I don't know where to start
: to solve this problem.

Maybe ask in comp.os.linux.help?
Or, even better, read the keyboard FAQ (in kbd-0.87 on ftp.funet.fi).

------------------------------

From: zeppelin@login.dkuug.dk (Thomas B. Pedersen)
Subject: Please recommend GUI Builder for Motif
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 23:01:04 -0400


I am going to develop some applications for Motif. I am new to Motif and
X Window System in general. I have read about uil-files, but these do
not seem to be a major improvement over hard-coding everything in the
source, compared to using a Resource Editor like the one for Windows
and OS/2 PM, provided by Borland.

The GUI Builder concept allows you to quickly build a prototype of
an application, which is impossible with uil-files. Does such a GUI 
builder exist for Linux/Motif?

Any help would be much appreciated.

zeppelin


===============================================================================
Commitment:                                       |          Thomas B. Pedersen
It's like bacon and eggs.                         |     zeppelin@login.dkuug.dk
The chicken participates.                         |               +45 5767 1611
The pig is committed.                             |

------------------------------


** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU

You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:

    Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    nic.funet.fi				pub/OS/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu				pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu				pub/Linux

End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
