Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #215
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Date:     Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:13:09 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #215, Volume #2                 Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: A System I am ordering.... (Michael K. Johnson)
  Re: INT 13H support in Linux (Mark Lord)
  Re: Anyone running XFree in 256 colors on a notebook? (David Fox)
  Re: This SLIP ought to work! (Christophe DEMONT)
  Setting Time in Linux? (Tim Smith)
  KA9Q? (Brad Block)
  Re: How to cut&paste between XVT's on Linux. (Andries Brouwer)
  Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial) (Daniel Supernaw-Issen)
  Re: INT 13H support in Linux (Al Longyear)
  Re: Competitive upgrade: Linux Plus CD-ROM (Brandon S. Allbery)
  Re: Large Hard Drives (the 1024 cyclinders limit?) (na8520d00-Nichols)
  Re: Anyone running XFree in 256 colors on a notebook? ("Gareth L. Griffith")
  Re: Not on PS/2s you don't! (Re: Linux game development) (Shyamal Prasad)
  Help: network unreachable  (Jixiang Zhu)
  Re: Seyon Question (Tony Heaton)
  Re: KA9Q? (Brandon S. Allbery)
  conner cfa540a IDE (Kaidi Weng)
  Re: blah - kmem ps utils break under 1.1.13 (Rene COUGNENC)
  Cirrus Logic 5426 - Screen flickers! (Thomas B. Pedersen)
  SLIP/PPP - Autoredial on disconnect (Clay Luther)
  Re: Can Dosemu run DOOM? (Ed Haymore)
  Modem reliability under linux (Frank Volf)
  Re: Using CD-ROM recorder with Linux (Rob Janssen)

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From: johnsonm@merengue.oit.unc.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Subject: Re: A System I am ordering....
Date: 02 Jun 1994 22:33:12 GMT


In article <2skthd$qm8@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kpearce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bulldawg (Ken Pearce)) writes:

   I have this system that has been quoted to me by several vendors.  I want
   to make sure that this syetm will work using *current drivers*.

   Has anybody got suggestions/comments regarding this system?

           ASUS Pentium-60 PCI bus 256K cache ZIF
           32 Meg RAM (70ns)
           2 gigabyte hard drive, 8.5 ms, IBM
           Adaptec 2940 ISA SCSI controller

Not yet supported, not likely to be supported for months.

Buslogic controllers are pretty good; the Bt 545 is an ISA board that
will work in your system.

           3.5" floppy
           NEC SCSI Double Speed CD-ROM
           ATI Graphics Pro PCI Local Bus Video Adapter (MACH64 chipset?)

Mach64 isn't yet supported; ATI isn't letting programming information
out without an NDA, so it isn't likely to be soon.

Get a high-end S3 board instead, like a #9 with an S3 928 chip.

           MAG MX-17G, 0.26mm dp, 1280x1024 NI, 17" monitor
           Tower
           3 button mouse
                   asking for $7008 (lowest bid so far from DATAPRO)

Other than that, looks good.

michaelkjohnson

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From: mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
Subject: Re: INT 13H support in Linux
Date: 2 Jun 1994 22:30:43 GMT

In article <gurganus.770572247@homrighous.ecn.purdue.edu> gurganus@homrighous.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
>Does anybody know if Linux supports INT 13H hard drive support like OS/2?
>Since apparently my Adaptec 2742 isn't supported by drivers, how about
>my INT 13H?

No, it does not.  You are basically S.O.L. until somebody writes a driver
for your controller card -- at least one person(s) is working on it, 
with forecast first delivery around Sept/94 or so..
-- 
mlord@bnr.ca    Mark Lord       BNR Ottawa,Canada       613-763-7482

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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Anyone running XFree in 256 colors on a notebook?
Date: 04 Jun 1994 11:24:09 GMT

In article <1994Jun4.041543.6223@martha.utcc.utk.edu> peek@mathsun1 (Michael S. Peek (lab)) writes:

] The only problems I had was that there's a known bug - when you exit
] X on the 24 chip, it doesn't restore the video mode correctly.  None
] of the SVGALIB workarounds helped either.  I had to reboot the
] machine to get the screen back.  (If anyone has a solution to this -
] let me know!  I want to buy one of those laptops soon.)

Some machines will reset the video chip if you hit the key that
switches to external video and back to LCD a few times.
--
David Fox                                               xoF divaD
NYU Media Research Lab                     baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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From: archi@uuarchi (Christophe DEMONT)
Subject: Re: This SLIP ought to work!
Date: 2 Jun 1994 00:25:16 +0100

Steve McMahon (steve.mcmahon@lambada.oit.unc.edu) wrote:
: I'm trying to setup up a SLIP link between two computers connected by
: a NULL-modem cable. I made sure to compile the kernel with SLIP
: support. I had installed the latest Slackware on both machines, and
: added this new kernel (1.1.6). I also read the networking HOWTO
: several times and the manual pages of the relevant programs.
..........

:   s1:45:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0

I'm not sure but maybe it comes from the /etc/gettydefs
make sure that the line which defines the 19200 contains the
flag CLOCAL, otherwise it considers that a modem is at the other
end and connections with NULL-MODEM cables are not correctly possbile.

Hope it helps,

cheers
Christophe.

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From: tcsmith@csi.nb.ca (Tim Smith)
Subject: Setting Time in Linux?
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 09:21:20

Hello All...

Sorry about asking what could be a very stupid question, but it had to be done.
How do I set the time in Lunux. I recently installed Linux on a PC that 
doesn't seem to have the 'press delete' option when booting up. So the only 
way to set the tim will have to be through software. What command do I use?

- Tim Smith

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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Subject: KA9Q?
Date: 2 Jun 1994 19:57:21 -0400

What is this KA9Q (do I have it right?)?
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer)
Subject: Re: How to cut&paste between XVT's on Linux.
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 13:42:25 GMT

bhogan@crl.com (Bill Hogan) writes:

> I could almost swear that I was at one time able to cut&paste between 
>XVT's, but now I an not so sure -- maybe I am just imagining things.

I am not quite sure what you mean by an XVT, but perhaps "man xterm"
will help? (Outside of X there is "selection".)


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From: daniel@austin.ibm.com (Daniel Supernaw-Issen)
Subject: Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:08:15 GMT


In article <1994Jun2.203034.25501@cs.cornell.edu>, mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh) writes:
> In article <1994Jun2.054917.2415@truffula.sj.ca.us> cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:
> >Cameron, posting from *home*, on my own damned time, thanks for asking.
> >(ps.  Installing Slackware 1.2.0 on another drive.  Friggin' *beautiful*
> >job, Peter!  Try Slackware for a Soft Landing from an SLS bailout!!!)
> 
> Peter?
> 
> mdw [try `Patrick']
> 

I think what he was saying that slackware is much easier than sls, thus, 
making fun of sls's slogan (for a softlanding from a dos bailout), the poster
was saying that slackware was a solftlanding from a SLS bailout.  His reference
to Peter was indicating that Peter McDonald try Patrick V's (sorry i forget the
spelling) Slackware.


Daniel Supernaw-Issen
daniel@caspian.austin.ibm.com

I speak for nobody but myself.

-- 
My other life is worth living.


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From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
Subject: Re: INT 13H support in Linux
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:50:36 GMT

gurganus@homrighous.ecn.purdue.edu (James P Gurganus) writes:

>Does anybody know if Linux supports INT 13H hard drive support like OS/2?
>Since apparently my Adaptec 2742 isn't supported by drivers, how about
>my INT 13H?

It seems that every year or so, someone comes along and poses this very
same question. The last time it took a few weeks of bandering about.

I'll give you the benifit of the doubt and consider you as "someone who is
new to the newsgroups for Linux" so don't take this personally when I say

                           FORGET IT!
-- 
Al Longyear           longyear@netcom.com

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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: Competitive upgrade: Linux Plus CD-ROM
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 14:24:46 GMT

In article <770722895snx@zmemw16.demon.co.uk>, Stephen@zmemw16.demon.co.uk says:
+---------------
| TA & YGGD I suspect would be very pleased to receive Jana cdrom's,
| just to get them out of circulation.
+------------->8

You mean there actually *are* Jana CDROMs in circulation?  :-) :-)

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery         kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org          bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
The FUDs at Microsoft are shouting "Kill The Wabi!"

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From: rnichols@ih4ehw.ih.att.com (na8520d00-Nichols)
Subject: Re: Large Hard Drives (the 1024 cyclinders limit?)
Reply-To: rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 02:10:29 GMT

In article <2slh68$stl@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Bulldawg (Ken Pearce) <kpearce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
>Am I going to have troble with a 2.1 Gig Hard Drive (SCSI) simply due
>to LINUX limitations??? (such as maximum number of cylinders????)

No.  You shouldn't run into a problem until you try to exceed the
4-terabyte limit of the ext2fs file system.  You will, however, need to
provide a root partition that is accessible via the BIOS (i.e., lies
entirely below the 1024 cyl limit).  Reading the HOWTO is also helpful,
especially the part about NOT configuring your SCSI adapter for >1 Gig
drive support.

--
Bob Nichols
AT&T Bell Laboratories
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com


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From: glug@glug.demon.co.uk ("Gareth L. Griffith")
Subject: Re: Anyone running XFree in 256 colors on a notebook?
Reply-To: glug@glug.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 14:35:18 +0000

In article <1994Jun4.041543.6223@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
           peek@mathsun1 "Michael S. Peek (lab" writes:

] I had a chance to play with a multimedia laptop from BIT computers for a
] couple of days.  It has a WD90c24A-ZZ video chip.  I got the SVGA to work
] by forcing X to support WD90C30.  The only problems I had was that there's
] a known bug - when you exit X on the 24 chip, it doesn't restore the video
] mode correctly.  None of the SVGALIB workarounds helped either.  I had to
] reboot the machine to get the screen back.  (If anyone has a solution to
] this - let me know!  I want to buy one of those laptops soon.)
] 
] I don't know what kind of video chip you have, but if it's the same, I can
] mail you the Xconfig file I used.

Please, Please, Me too Please.

I'm setting up slackware on a portable with a WD90C24.  I've just got
the technical manual with the complete list of clock rates but haven't yet
got it configured properly.

Thanks in advance,
   Glug.

================================
Gareth Griffith, London, England

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Crossposted-To: rec.games.programmer
From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Re: Not on PS/2s you don't! (Re: Linux game development)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 15:05:49 GMT

In article <1994Jun4.110228.587@bradford.ac.uk>,
AD BROWN <A.D.Brown@bradford.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>I haven't tried to run Linux on PS/1s but It'd be a safe bet that
>>they can't run Linux either...  More people who can't run your program... :(
>

Sure it runs. Just recompile the kernel or tell LILO what is going on
with your disk. I use a PS/1 Model 2155 (486/33 w 8 MB) and it works
fine. 

Shyamal
-- 
Shyamal Prasad, Department of Computer Science
Southern Methodist University, Dallas TX 75275, USA

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From: jzhu@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jixiang Zhu)
Subject: Help: network unreachable 
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 20:50:12 GMT

I am new to Linux world and I am in a process of installing Linux/slackware 
on my 486/33 clone.  Unfortunately, I can't get the network part of Linux 
to work.  I get a error stating that "the netmask address does not match 
the route address".  Could somebody please help me on this?  I use the 
netmask address that work under DOS.  I would very much appreciate if somebody 
explain to me what network address, netmask address, and route address.  My 
machine is connected through ethernet to my campus network.  Thanks in advance.  Jixiang Zhu. 

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From: theaton@nmt.edu (Tony Heaton)
Subject: Re: Seyon Question
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 15:29:59 GMT

In article <1994Jun2.141304.13325@mother.bates.edu> greese@abacus.bates.edu (George Reese) writes:
>How do I set up a dial string with seyon?  The modem I dial to is a
>14.4 modem which can handle only 9600 baud connections.  Since both my
>modem and the remote modems are 14.4, they always end up at 14.4.  I
>want to tell my modem to force a 9600 connect using my dial string, but
>i do not see where in Seyon to do that.
>
>                   ********************************
>                   *         George Reese         *
>                   *    greese@abacus.bates.edu   *
>                   ********************************

the file you need to edit is called startup.  it is in the .Seyoon subdirectory.

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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: KA9Q?
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 02:39:53 GMT

In article <2slrl1$deq@bronze.coil.com>, bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block) says:
+---------------
| What is this KA9Q (do I have it right?)?
+------------->8

TCP/IP over amateur radio, usually for DOS although there are versions for
Mac, Amiga, Atari ST...

...and Linux.  Three versions in fact:  WAMPES, Rob PE1CHL's, and my port of
JNOS.  (Four if you count the ka9qbin package that was used to get SLIP back
in the bad old days of Linux networking version 1.)  There's also Alan Cox's
kernel AX.25, but it still has some shortcomings (on the other hand, it's also
still under development...).

Don't ask me for a detailed list of differences between them.  I did one for
WAMPES 921229, but there have been several updates since then and many of the
things I disliked about the 921229 WAMPES appear to have been fixed since
then.  I'm not familiar with the other options.  However, Alan and Rob at
least both read this newsgroup and will probably chime in shortly :-)  I'm
targeting JNOS/Linux at hams who already have JNOS setups but are really
strapped for memory; it's pretty much a drop-in replacement for JNOS 1.08df
except for the attach commands.  Newcomers who don't have existing setups
(especially complicated ones :-) should probably start with the kernel AX.25
code, since it's cleaner and better integrated into Linux's networking
facilities.

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery         kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org          bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
The FUDs at Microsoft are shouting "Kill The Wabi!"

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From: kweng@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Kaidi Weng)
Subject: conner cfa540a IDE
Date: 3 Jun 1994 03:13:06 GMT


I think I'm gonna get flamed by asking hard drive question in a linux
group.  But I can't access comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.
Anyway, I received my new HD today.  On the sheet of paper, it told
me to use 1023 cyl for the hard drive configuration.  But couple days
ago, Conner fax'ed me its data sheet and on that sheet, it says 1048.
I wonder which one is right.  I used linux's fdisk and saw it said
starting cylinder(1-1023).  Did linux grab the magic number 1023 from
CMOS?  Should I use 1048 to format my HD?  Please offer your opinion.
thank you very much.

--kaidi

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From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)
Subject: Re: blah - kmem ps utils break under 1.1.13
Date: 2 Jun 1994 23:20:54 GMT
Reply-To: cougnenc@hsc.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave Robert Sanders ecrit:

> >Ok, add me to the list: Five :-)

> Hey, I like being able to use utilities I compiled long ago for
> different kernel versions!  I love the proc stuff!  I don't run
> 'ps' a thousand times a second, so speed doesn't matter!  Whoo-hoo!

Well, we are all running the proc ps package, since the alpha new
tty drivers came up for  1.1.12 :-)

The problems (for me, don't know why other people prefer kmem ps), are
that on my slow 386, kmem ps is *way* faster than the proc version,
and the "w" coming with proc never shows what I need, the one coming
with the kmem ps does. (Yes, even the fixed proc-w from Mr Bassman has
problems and just show '-' in the what field. )

Example:

  1:15am  up  3:57,  5 users,  load average: 0.06, 0.04, 0.07
User     tty      from             login@  idle   JCPU   PCPU  what
rene     ttyp3    plux.frmug.fr.n 12:30am    43      1      1  -bash
trystram ttys3                     1:08am     2                -

In fact this user is doing:

trystram  2092  3.4  2.6   57  180 pS3 S    01:12   0:05 sz /mirror/distribution
s/slackware/u1/ums_ide.tgz

> why don't you enhance the proc suite to do what you want?  What?
> Too logical?  No chance to bitch?  Never mind, then.

Some months ago I tried to understand how this proc w works, but I gave
up.. :-) Most of the time I have just one hour a day to spend with Linux,
and I have to help the users of my site, read the news, read the mail,
(while compiling the last kernel ) :-)

Perhaps one day I'll find the time to fix the kmem-ps I use. But I'm
pretty sure that the author will do it long before I try myself... :-)

--
 linux linux linux linux -[ cougnenc@renux.frmug.fr.net ]- linux linux linux 

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From: zeppelin@login.dkuug.dk (Thomas B. Pedersen)
Subject: Cirrus Logic 5426 - Screen flickers!
Date: 4 Jun 94 16:03:30 GMT


I have just installed Linux 1.0 from Linux Systems Labs, and it runs great,
looks great, smells great, is free, etc. etc.

I just have one small problem. When I move a window, or an xterm window
scrolls, all lines on the entire screen flickers. How come?

Thanks in advance,

zeppelin@login.dkuug.dk


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From: cluther@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Clay Luther)
Subject: SLIP/PPP - Autoredial on disconnect
Date: 3 Jun 1994 03:47:19 GMT

Has anyone written a wrapper for dip (or the ppp alternative) that will
watch your slip connection and, if it drops, attempt to reestablish it?

Thanks.

Clay

-- 
Clay Luther                         Lonely C++ Programmer        
cluther@ponder.csci.unt.edu
cluther@solo.csci.unt.edu           I work here now and they still
cluther@supernet.haus.com           don't let me have any opinions.

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From: haymoree@newt.ee.byu.edu (Ed Haymore)
Subject: Re: Can Dosemu run DOOM?
Date: 3 Jun 1994 03:55:28 GMT

Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote:
| You obviously didn't look recently...  But indeed, it can't run DOOM.
| That shouldn't be necessesary either, we were promised a Linux version
| of DOOM.

Sure thing, it'll be out in about two weeks :-) .  Seriously, I'm looking
forward to it.

--
Ed Haymore    |   Duct tape is like the Force.  It has a light side
ed@byu.edu    |   and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

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From: volf@eb.ele.tue.nl (Frank Volf)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Modem reliability under linux
Date: 4 Jun 1994 18:54:49 +0200


Hello,

I would like to share some of my experiences in using a modem under
linux and dos. My feeling is (but I can't prove it) that under
dos modem operations are much more reliable than under linux (to
the same remote site, with the same options and chat scripts).

I use linux 1.08 (slackware) with taylor uucp 1.05 and minicom 1.5B.
Under dos I use SM-DOS 6.2, uupc 1.12b and telix. I made the following
observations:

When using taylor uucp I always get errors (with all protocols I tried)
and timeouts. These errors are not drastic (I can get my mail), but
if I have a large amount of mail, I have too call twice or three times to
the same machine, because uucp is aborting with "too many protocol errors".
I also get timeouts (both the RD and TD led on modem are off, for about
ten seconds, and then start to blink again).
Under msdos (using uupc 1.12b) I don't have such problems.

When using minicom I often notice, that some characters are printed more
than once on the screen (for example you get something like: this isss a
teeest). Under telix, I never have such a problem.

Finally, under linux, if I use minicom to do a z-modem upload/download
I often get messages like (CRC ERROR,  data sub-packet too long or
TIME OUT). When using telix I don't have these problems.

These experiences added up (over a period of at least a month) make me
believe that my modem does not work reliable under linux. Unfortunately,
I have no clue, how to solve (or test) this problem. Any help would be
appreciated.

Best regards, 


                    Frank


========================================================================
- Frank Volf                            INTERNET : volf@eb.ele.tue.nl  -
- Eindhoven University of Technology                                   -
- Digital Systems Group, Room EH11.24                                  -
- P.O. 513,                                                            -
- 5600 MB Eindhoven, The Netherlands                                   -
- Phone: +31.40.473394                                                 -
========================================================================

-- 
Frank Volf (volf@eb.ele.tue.nl)
Eindhoven University of Technology
Digital Systems Group, Room EH11.24
P.O. 513, 5600 MB Eindhoven, The Netherlands

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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Using CD-ROM recorder with Linux
Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:54:14 GMT

In <2smamb$b2d@zeus.fasttax.com> phil@zeus.fasttax.com (Phil Howard) writes:

>Is there any information about using a CD-ROM recorder with Linux?
>I scanned a whole collection of FAQS for the keyword "record" and
>had zero matches.  It appears the subject is not discussed by any
>of these (including how-to's).

>I'm downloading files matching "mkisofs" now as I suspect there
>might be a clue there.  Any additional comments or suggestions?

With "mkisofs" you can make (on a harddisk partition) an image which
can be written on a CD-ROM later.
A CD-ROM recorder should be able to do this, but usually they require
a continuous data stream without any interruptions, which may be a
difficult condition to meet with Linux....

Rob
-- 
=========================================================================
| Rob Janssen                | AMPRnet:   rob@pe1chl.ampr.org           |
| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl     | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU     |
=========================================================================

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