Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #202
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Date:     Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:13:06 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #202, Volume #2                 Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Gateway P5-90? (Chris Russell)
  Re: Looking for Linux BBS Software (Volker Schuermann)
  Re: Competitive upgrade: Linux Plus CD-ROM (Howie Grapek)
  What CD-ROM drive is this??? (Alex Ramos)
  Re: Linux on PPC (Piner)
  ISA SoundBlaster 16 SCSI-II sol'n to PCI/SCSI-II lack of support?? (Monica Sweat)
  DataBase Under Linux - compatible with Xenix ? (Mike Jagdis)
  Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again) (Reuben Regucera)
  Re: Linux on Leading Edge? (Rick Kelly)
  Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi C (Rick Kelly)
  Re: LSM on the World Wide Web: new release now available! (Larry Barea)
  Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial) (Cameron L. Spitzer)
  Linux & Motif (les grant)
  Re: fixup table!? (J.J. Paijmans)
  Re: fax getty and data getty? (Eric S. Ma)
  Re: Future Domain TMC850MCD & Toshiba 3401 (G.Turner)
  Re: Computerworld says "Expose, Schmexpose" (las@light-house.uucp)
  Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again) (Karl Holmstrom)
  Small PATCH to procps (Shannon Hendrix)
  Re: Have you used Octive? (Andreas Stahel)
  Re: Have you used Octive? (Andreas Stahel)
  (gdb) p (short)-1.49605799e+34 (David Fox)
  Re: (gdb) p (short)-1.49605799e+34 (David Fox)

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From: cjr@netcom.com (Chris Russell)
Subject: Gateway P5-90?
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:54:39 GMT

I'm wondering if anyone has tried running Linux on a Gateway P5-90 yet. 
Some specific compatibility queries I have are:
  1) Their enhanced IDE inteface
  1) An Adaptec AHA 2740 (or is it 2940) PCI SCSI-2 controller
  2) ATI Mach 64 Graphics (I know XFree86 doesn't handle this yet)
 
-- 
Chris Russell    *   Sunnyvale,   *   PGP public key block   *
cjr@netcom.com   *   California   *   available via finger   *

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Crossposted-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: Volker Schuermann <Volker.Schuermann@unnet.wupper.DE>
Subject: Re: Looking for Linux BBS Software
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:49:47 GMT

In article <2saqvs$7n9@bbs.dsnet.com>,
            System Administrator writes:

>     : > : 1)  RIP graphics

What on earth do RIP graphics have to do with BBSs??? I'm writing BBS
software and I'm working with RIPs for professional purposes, but I have
no idea how to combine both ...

Is there a special communication software in the market, I haven't heard
of yet, which allows to work with RIP graphics?

Please enlighten me soon ... (specifications, ready to implement, would be
great ;-)

- Volker Schuermann                               UUCP: volkers@unnet.wupper.de
  The Underground Network, Germany                                [Carpe diem!]

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From: howie@fc.hp.com (Howie Grapek)
Subject: Re: Competitive upgrade: Linux Plus CD-ROM
Date: 1 Jun 1994 23:24:52 GMT

I just spoke to them... they said ANY CD is fine... a game, etc.
20 bucks.

Also, 39.95 list is a bi much... tell them you heard it over
the internet, and you get it for 30.00 plus shipping.

Just my 2c worth.

Howie.




Ian Parkin (iap@scammell.ecos.tne.oz.au) wrote:
: : Traans Ameritech Competitive Upgrades.
: : Does this offer include customers who want to send in previous versions
: : of your CD (volume 2) to get the upgrade for $20 ?

: The ad stated '.. ANY OLD CDROM Software Title in ANY condition ..'.

: Therefore you can feel justified in putting your CD-ROM through any and all
: treatments before you post it off to them. I recommend a thermal lance and an
: industrial sand-blaster, but enough of my personal problems.

: IAP
: -- 
:       Style, quality and price be damned, buy Australian !

--
Howie Grapek, Contractor          __o          Hewlett Packard
Voice: (303) 229-2318           _ \<,_         3404 E. Harmony Road
FAX:   (303) 229-4977          (_)/ (_)        Fort Collins, Co  80525
                            howie@fc.hp.com

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From: ramos@engr.latech.edu (Alex Ramos)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom
Subject: What CD-ROM drive is this???
Date: 2 Jun 1994 01:45:13 GMT


I have a machine with an unknown CD-ROM drive in it. The only marking
on the exterior says "Compact Disc", nothing else.  It originally came
with a Gateway machine. Throughout the DOS driver documentation, the
adapter card is referred to as a "CM250", and the driver as a "Generic
Microsoft Driver." I have successfully installed BC++ 4.0 from CD with
this drive, so the controller must be indeed a CM250, whatever that is.

Can anybody guess the specs on this drive?
What type of cd-rom drive is this, as far as Linux is concerned?

Thanks,

--
Alex Ramos (ramos@engr.latech.edu) * http://info.latech.edu/~ramos/
Louisiana Tech University, BSEE/Sr * These opinions are probably mine

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.powerpc
From: bpine@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (Piner)
Subject: Re: Linux on PPC
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 22:00:29 GMT

In article <2sg6c1$68g@terminus.cc.gatech.edu>,
L. Drew Davis <drewd@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
>
>bpine@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (Piner) writes:
>
>>Oh, if anyone knows whether Linux is Sys V, BSD or whatever, that would be
>>nice to know.
>
>   Perhaps the kind folks over at comp.os.linux.* can help you there.
>
>   Accordingly, I've cross-posted to there.  Then, on my second attempt,

The folks in #linux (IRC) informed me that Linux is POSIX.  Supposedly,
this means it includes both Sys V and BSD compatibility and will compile
programs written for either.

-Brian



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From: monica@cis.ufl.edu (Monica Sweat)
Subject: ISA SoundBlaster 16 SCSI-II sol'n to PCI/SCSI-II lack of support??
Date: 1 Jun 1994 20:08:18 GMT


Hi,

I'm fairly set on ordering a PCI 486/66 machine with SCSI-II peripherals already
on it.  Since the PCI/SCSI-II Linux drivers (namely those for the NCR chip) are 
not finished I came up with one potential solution and would greatly appreciate
hearing about the feasibility of this temporary solution.  I especially
appreciate hearing from anyone that may have tried it or something similar.

I was thinking I could get a SoundBlaster 16 ISA card with the SCSI-II support on
it and hang all the SCSI-II periperals from that driver rather than from the
PCI/SCSI-II driver that will come with the system.  That _could_ work since the
SCSI-II driver that would be on the ISA SoundBlaster 16 card would be supported
by Linux.  Or at least that is the theory.

Anyone tried this?  Or used some other cheap ISA/SCSI-II driver for a temporary
(or permanent) solution on a PCI system?

Thanks,
Monica

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From: jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk (Mike Jagdis)
Subject: DataBase Under Linux - compatible with Xenix ?
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 22:13:00 +0000

* In message <CqMvF3.AFz@cr-df.rnp.br>,
  rodolfo@hal02.sarah.br said:

rr> ... and I would like to know if Linux is binary
rr> compatible with Xenix 386, or in other words, I'd like to know
rr> if dataflex will run under linux, and this way I would not
rr> loose my applications.

Well, I put a loader for Xenix 386 binaries into the iBCS emulator a while 
back and it runs a simple hello world program ok. However for real work it 
*will* need more hacking before it works. I haven't got anything more
complex than a hello world Xenix program though :-(.


                                Mike  
 

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From: reubenr@netcom.com (Reuben Regucera)
Subject: Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:09:00 GMT

DAVID L. JOHNSON (dlj0@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU) wrote:
: >
: There is a demo version of WP for SCO unix (I forgot where it was.. can anyone
: help here?) which I was able to run under iBCS without problems.  Some of the
: button bitmaps were scrambled, but it ran (as  demo) fine.  In fact, it was
: a little faster than on our rs6000's at work.  Howver, that is NOT fast.
: It is basically a pretty pokey puppy unless you have gobs of RAM.

: David L. Johnson                             ID:  dlj0@lehigh.edu
: Department of Mathematics
: Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA 18015       Telephone: 610-758-3759 (office)
:                                                         610-828-3708 (home)
: MS-DOS: Just say No!

It can be found in : ftp.wordperfect.com:/unix/demos/sco/sco.Z
It is an 8M file, uncompress works, but the tar file is not recognized 
by Linux or Sun.

Anyone got an any idea how to untar this beast?

CYA

-- 
========================================================
| Reuben V Regucera               |    !,,,/           |
| reubenr@netcom.com              |      H             |
| reubenr@reubenr.slip.netcom.com | Linux is here....  |
|                                 |  WindowsNT3.1 here.|
|                                 |  and OS/2 2.1 here |
|                                 |    and more....... |
========================================================

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From: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Subject: Re: Linux on Leading Edge?
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 03:47:50 GMT

Brandon S. Allbery (bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org) wrote:
: In article <1994May23.095051.7560@devnull.adsp.sub.org>, froh@devnull.adsp.sub.org (Frohwalt Egerer) says:
: +---------------
: | ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) writes:
: | >In article <2qvrnb$8f0@lynx.dac.neu.edu> zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown) writes:
: | >>Hi. Has anyone had success with linux on a Leading Edge computer? The
: | 
: | P.S.: Just check out your dealer isn't selling a normal board to you, just
: | without cache RAMS.
: +------------->8

: LE WinPros have cache capability but don't have cache RAM installed.  I have
: one here and it runs Slackware fine.  As has been noted theoretically, the
: lack of a cache doesn't really affect things while it's running Linux...
: however, the boot-time self-unzip is noticeably slower.

This would seem to imply that Linux and/or mainstream clone chipsets
have caching problems.  I have worked with a realtime unix clone OS
on Intel boxes that allowed turning caching off on the fly.  Performance
would degrade noticeably when the cache was turned off.


-- 

Rick Kelly  rmk@rmkhome.com  rmk@bedford.progress.com

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From: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Subject: Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi C
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 03:57:17 GMT

lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64) (lilo@slip-13-11.ots.utexas.edu) wrote:
: On 26 May 1994 20:31:21 GMT, Ivan (ivan@djomolungma.Eng.Sun.COM) wrote:

: > Well, compare Xemacs (aka UoI/Lucid emacs) with v19 emacs.

: > I guess there are diferent kinds of professionals as well as
: > different kinds of volunteers.

: I would, if I could, but I suspect I can't afford it. ;)

Lucid emacs can be freely copied as it still resides under the GPL.


-- 

Rick Kelly  rmk@rmkhome.com  rmk@bedford.progress.com

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From: larry@tarik.demon.co.uk (Larry Barea)
Subject: Re: LSM on the World Wide Web: new release now available!
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 02:48:29 GMT

. 

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Crossposted-To: alt.journalism.criticism
From: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Latest in PC WEEK (May 30 Editorial)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 05:49:17 GMT

In article <2sh3n4$gvj@vespucci.iquest.com> racerx@vespucci.iquest.com (Chris Adams) writes:
>Well, PC Week has Novell using Linux again in the Corsair/Expose operating
>system.  Only problem is that the editorial mentions that Novell is "Basing
>the software on the public-domain Linux version of Unix...".  Linux is NOT
>public-domain, at least as I understand it.

Interesting.  At least three weeks ago, I mailed jdodge@ziff.whatever
(PC WEEK's editor) about the same mistake, which also appeared in the
product review in April.  He asked who I worked for.  I asked him
not to print my employer's name in connection with my letter.
(Having been burned that way by _Open Systems Today!_ back when it
was _Unix Today!_.)  Never heard from him again.
No correction appeared.
If the trade press exists to serve industry PR flacks, this whole
thing makes no sense at all, and if it's journalism, it still makes
no sense.  I'm completely confused.  Is _PC WEEK_ trying to undermine
Linux's copyright status by repeatedly denying it?  Or promote Linux?
Or are they just too proud (like journalists everywhere) to print
a correction to a dumb error?

My _PC WEEK_ is always two weeks late.  Haven't seen the piece yet.

Cameron, posting from *home*, on my own damned time, thanks for asking.
(ps.  Installing Slackware 1.2.0 on another drive.  Friggin' *beautiful*
job, Peter!  Try Slackware for a Soft Landing from an SLS bailout!!!)


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From: les@babcock.demon.co.uk (les grant)
Subject: Linux & Motif
Reply-To: les@babcock.demon.co.uk
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:57:18 +0000

Hi folks
        I am sorry if this is a FAQ, I have not been taking this group very
long. I have an interest in writing Motif software with Linux. I know Motif
runs under Linux but can I get the necessary to build a Motif application
under Linux? I guess that I need some Motif development libraries at least.
This lot will be running on a PC. So if some kind soul could let me
know    a) can one develop Motif applications under Motif
        b) if so, where can I get all the necessary
                
                thanks in advance
                        les

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-- for himself        ----- Fax:   041-885-3370    (+44-41-885-3370) -------
                     ------ Email: les@babcock.demon.co.uk -----------------


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From: paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans)
Subject: Re: fixup table!?
Date: 2 Jun 1994 07:59:52 GMT

In article <1994Jun1.135733.30980@news.datasrv.co.il> edunet@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Edunetics) writes:
>
>       The never ending sega of my computer brings me to a new border of
                         ^^^^
>unknown problems :-(
...

Well, you can't install Linux on a game-computer, you know... :-)
Paai



-- 
Copyright Hans Paijmans 1994. Niets hierboven mag geheel of
gedeeltelijk worden geciteerd buiten de nieuwsgroep(en) waar het
oorspronkelijk is geplaatst.  Nothing of the above may be cited
outside the newsgroups in which the message originally was posted.

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From: ericma@soda.berkeley.edu (Eric S. Ma)
Subject: Re: fax getty and data getty?
Date: 2 Jun 1994 06:29:34 GMT

In article <CqpJGB.H4@seneca.ix.de>, Harald Milz <hm@seneca.ix.de> wrote:
>sunsite.unc.edu://pub/Linux/system/Serial/mgetty+sendfax-0.20.tar.gz works
>just fine :)

How about one for class I fax?

Eric
ericma@soda.berkeley.edu

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From: cm5712@ccub.wlv.ac.uk (G.Turner)
Subject: Re: Future Domain TMC850MCD & Toshiba 3401
Date: 2 Jun 1994 10:27:16 +0100

pfeifer@lf.hp.com (Mark Pfeifer) writes:

>I'm having trouble getting Linux to see the Toshiba 3401 attached to 
>a Future Domain TMC850MCD SCSI card.  [The rest of the computer is an HP
>Vectra 486/25U EISA, 12MB RAM, 240MB IDE hard disk]

>Through the use of the boot parameter "tmc8xx=0xca00,5" I've been able to
>get Linux (Slackware 1.2.0, from Trans-Ameritech's CD #3) to see the SCSI
>card, but it reports "0 tapes, 0 drives, 0 CD-ROMs".  The CD is at SCSI
>address 2, and can be seen by the Future Domain BIOS (v8.4), Windows 3.1, 
>and Windows NT 3.1.

>The CD is the only device on the SCSI bus, and is connected to the last
>connector on the SCSI cable.  It has terminating resistors installed, and
>is supplying termination power.  I've tried different SCSI addresses,
>turned parity on and off - no luck.

>Does anyone know how to get this combination to work?  Linux looks promising,
>but I can't get it installed until I get the CD working (I really don't want
>to make a large number of floppies to get X installed, when I have the CD
>right there.)

>Alternatively, anyone have personal experience with another low-cost SCSI
>card that they know works with Linux and the Toshiba 3401?

>[BTW - Yes, I've read the SCSI how-to, and all of the other how-tos on my
> CD, but have yet to find that one magic pearl of wisdom.]

>Thanks for any help.

>                                               Mark
>--
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Mark Pfeifer                  (302) 633-8260   Internet: pfeifer@lf.hp.com
>Hewlett-Packard Little Falls Site               #include <disclaimer.h>
>Wilmington, DE 19808                            #define OPINIONS mine



I  had  exactly  the same problem with this card,  but  it  would
randomly see a drive and other times would report nothing  there,
when it did see it it would not read it correctly so fdisk  would
not  work  right in any case. i ended up using my  adaptec  1542b
which works fine with Linux, Sorry i can't help you further!

                cm5712@ccub.wlv.ac.uk

                        Graham Turner
-- 


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From: las@light-house.uucp
Subject: Re: Computerworld says "Expose, Schmexpose"
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 00:00:12 GMT
Reply-To: whome!light-house!las@planix.com

Rob Wolf (acc-corp@tigger.jvnc.net) wrote:
: Both Computerworld and PC Week have got it half right.  

: The problem is that the conflicting stories coming out of Novell means that
: it is next to impossible to figure out which half they've got right.

: We do know:
: -Torvalds was first contacted by Novell about the possibility of their doing
: such a thing based on Linux 9 months ago, and Novell technical people have
: asked him technical questions from time to time ever since.

Where do you get this info? Could you be a bit more speecific?


: -Ray Noorda, recently retired Chief Exec of Novell has been personally
: involved in this project.
: -Novell has demonstrated a product based on Linux.
: -Visix have been contacted about using their Looking Glass GUI on this
: product (we cannot get confirmation of a licencing agreement, although no
: one is denying such a thing)

: Bob Young.
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HAhaHA -- NY UNIX at the fore-front of investigative reporting...

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From: kalle@kyyppi.kcl.fi (Karl Holmstrom)
Subject: Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again)
Date: 02 Jun 1994 07:34:05 GMT

In article <2sia1a$1d59@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU> 
dlj0@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU (DAVID L. JOHNSON) writes:

   There is a demo version of WP for SCO unix (I forgot where it was.. can anyone
   help here?) which I was able to run under iBCS without problems.  Some of the
   button bitmaps were scrambled, but it ran (as  demo) fine.  In fact, it was
   a little faster than on our rs6000's at work.  Howver, that is NOT fast.
   It is basically a pretty pokey puppy unless you have gobs of RAM.

I think the scrambled fonts are caused by the snf format font files that
come with the demo.  The real version comes with bdf fonts that can be
converted to a format that the XFree86 X server understands.  The demo
could be made more appealing if someone with a SCO ODT system could compile
a snftobdf program for us.

 - kalle

--


Karl Holmstro"m
Finnish Pulp and Paper Research Institute
P.O. Box 70, FIN-02151 ESPOO, Finland
Tel +358 0 4371306
email: kalle@sihti.kcl.fi

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From: shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix)
Subject: Small PATCH to procps
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 04:39:39 GMT

I have made a small patch to free.c in the procps suite to reflect my
personal preference.  Since others might like this too I've included the
tiny patch here.

Basically what this does is change the way 'free' reports the amount
of memory used.  Normally it reports the amount of memory used by
programs and the buffers.  However, most of the time I want to know
how much is being used by programs, not the buffers.

 ] free -t
             total       used       free     shared    buffers
Mem:         19408      18036       1372       8144       8648
Swap:        16976       1288      15688
Total:       36384      19324      17060

To me the above says "You have 18 megs of programs loaded" and I
really rather it looked like this:

             total       used       free     shared    buffers
Mem:         19408       9508        696       8064       9204
Swap:        16976       1288      15688
Total:       36384      10796      16384

which correctly reports the amount of memory used by programs.

Also, it's easy to make the free column reflect free+buffers if you
like.  I don't but I'm including a patch here for others that might.

patch to just change 'used'

--- free.c.orig Thu Jun  2 00:04:34 1994
+++ free.c      Thu Jun  2 00:31:38 1994
@@ -59,6 +59,8 @@
        {
                n = sscanf( buf2, "%s %d %d %d %d %d", name,
                        &col[0], &col[1], &col[2], &col[3], &col[4] );
+
+               if ( n > 4 ) col[1] -= col[4], col[2] += col[4];
                if( n < 1 ) continue;
                fprintf( stdout, "%-7s", name );
                for( i=1 ; i<n ; i++ ) {

patch to add both 'used' and 'free' (applied AFTER above)

--- free.c.orig Thu Jun  2 00:34:18 1994
+++ free.c      Thu Jun  2 00:35:12 1994
@@ -60,7 +60,7 @@
                n = sscanf( buf2, "%s %d %d %d %d %d", name,
                        &col[0], &col[1], &col[2], &col[3], &col[4] );
 
-               if ( n > 4 ) col[1] -= col[4];
+               if ( n > 4 ) col[1] -= col[4], col[2] += col[4];
                if( n < 1 ) continue;
                fprintf( stdout, "%-7s", name );
                for( i=1 ; i<n ; i++ ) {

NOTE: I'm not claiming this is the logical way to format the output,
      it just suits me to do it this way.
-- 
csh
===========================================================================
shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (UUCP)     | Amd486/40 Linux system
shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Internet)          | Christopher Newport University

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From: andreas@nanook.isbiel.ch (Andreas Stahel)
Subject: Re: Have you used Octive?
Date: 2 Jun 1994 09:38:33 GMT

In article <2sbno9$h3t@pandora.sdsu.edu> mgutierr@mentor.sdsu.edu (Mario  
Gutierrez) writes:
> Michael P. Jarreau (jarreau@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) wrote:
> : Hi.  I am looking for a matlab like product for my linux box.  I heard
> : octive is the way to go.  Do you have any experience with it?
> 
> : Cheers!
> : Michael
Hello
on a NeXT at work and on a LINUX box at hoe I use OCTAVE. Some of the
MATLAB commands have to be adapted slightely, but over all OCTAVE is  
working fine. Highly recommanded.

Andreas

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From: andreas@nanook.isbiel.ch (Andreas Stahel)
Subject: Re: Have you used Octive?
Date: 2 Jun 1994 09:39:05 GMT

In article <2sbno9$h3t@pandora.sdsu.edu> mgutierr@mentor.sdsu.edu (Mario  
Gutierrez) writes:
> Michael P. Jarreau (jarreau@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) wrote:
> : Hi.  I am looking for a matlab like product for my linux box.  I heard
> : octive is the way to go.  Do you have any experience with it?
> 
> : Cheers!
> : Michael
Hello
on a NeXT at work and on a LINUX box at hoe I use OCTAVE. Some of the
MATLAB commands have to be adapted slightely, but over all OCTAVE is  
working fine. Highly recommanded.

Andreas

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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: (gdb) p (short)-1.49605799e+34
Date: 02 Jun 1994 04:11:39 GMT

The gdb command in the subject,

 print (short)-1.49605799e+34

which casts a large negative float to a short, gives the message
"Erronious Arithmetic Operation" or something very similar.  This is
an operation which is giving me floating point exceptions in programs
which run fine on SPARCs and SGIs.  Anyone know what is going on here?
Thanks,
--
David Fox                                               xoF divaD
NYU Media Research Lab                     baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: (gdb) p (short)-1.49605799e+34
Date: 02 Jun 1994 04:20:45 GMT

David Fox writes:

] The gdb command in the subject,
] 
]  print (short)-1.49605799e+34
] 
] which casts a large negative float to a short, gives the message
] "Erronious Arithmetic Operation" or something very similar.  This is
] an operation which is giving me floating point exceptions in programs
] which run fine on SPARCs and SGIs.  Anyone know what is going on here?

On further thought, this is a rather erronious operation.
I suppose it could be argued that before it is executed
the floating point value should be checked to see if
-1<<16 <= x < 1<<16.  Is this the case?  Can an argument
be made that the behaviour of sparcs or mips's should be
emulated?  Is that an impossibility because of how the
i386 is built?  That sounds like the case to me, but I
defer to someone who actually knows.  This is a pretty
serious portability problem for me.
--
David Fox                                               xoF divaD
NYU Media Research Lab                     baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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