Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #200
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Date:     Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:13:10 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #200, Volume #2                 Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again) (Darren Harvey)
  Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Two Yggdrasil E-Mail Lists (Mike Ovington)
  Re: who wants POV for Linux ??? (Ted C. Wang)
  Re: FAQ: Boca 16-Port Serial Card (David H Dennis)
  Re: [Help] Memory PARITY Error? (Oliver Flimm)
  NCR SCSI-II hard drive controller/Linux (Monica Sweat)
  Re: Will my cdrom work? (Adam J. Richter)
  fixup table!? (Edunetics)
  mouse and X (Edunetics)
  Re: PD NFS-Client software for PC (under DOS) ... (Hans de Hartog)
  Re: FAQ: Boca 16-Port Serial Card (Stephen White)
  Re: Use of apple SCSI drives possible? (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
  "selection" via keyboard? (James W. Abensdchan)
  [X/XF86_VGA16/xterm] Make my day. (Bill Hogan)
  Re: Viruses and Linux (Kevin Marcus)
  [WANTED] Source for UDP redirector for term (Glenn Geers)
  Future Domain TMC850MCD & Toshiba 3401 (Mark Pfeifer)
  Re: Use of apple SCSI drives possible? (Bao Chau Ha)

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From: dkh@sotona.physics.southampton.ac.uk (Darren Harvey)
Subject: Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:07:34 GMT

In Article <2scudj$2e8c@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU>
dlj0@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU (DAVID L. JOHNSON) writes:
>
>>2) Because it requires a minimum of 4.5 Meg of Andrew to run.
>>
>Do you think any full-featured WYSIWYG wordprocessor can get by with less?
>Looked at WP lately?
>
YES - has anyone out there ever played with Acorn machines??? (NOT the old 
BBC's, but the Archimedes / Risc PC's!!).  With a mere 1Mb of main memory 
you can run !Impression, this is a fully fledged WYSIWYG Word-Processor / 
DTP - including Anti-Aliased fonts and drag and drop graphics / text.  Okay,
so the operating system is in ROM :) but the total is well under 4.5 Meg.  
!Impression is not cr*p either - it beats the living daylights out of any 
Windozz apps like Work or Wordperfect and reviews well against Quark on the 
Mac.  Oh, and for speed, Impression running on a computer of 1988 vintage 
(no processor upgrades) leaves a 66MHz PC running WordPerfect for Windows 
in the dust.  My point is that you shouldn't need to throw loads of memory 
and processor power at an application if it's written properly and has a 
decent OS.

Linux really needs a WYSIWYG word processor which runs outside of X - 
remember, Linux IS different from standard UNIX machines.  Most of the 
Linux users (at least in my experience) actually use the console.  Ie one 
Linux machine per user.

Darren.

PS, if you ever get a chance to see an Acorn Risc PC, take it!  For 100ukp 
you can plug in a 486 second processor (along with the native ARM processor)
and have full IBM compatibility - by the end of June the extra Linux device 
drivers should be finished (they're in beta at the moment..).  Think, a 
decent graphics front-end plus Linux - heaven...... 


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: kmo@sae.com (Mike Ovington)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Two Yggdrasil E-Mail Lists
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:50:56 GMT

In article <2sfjid$1ve@yggdrasil.com>, adam@adam.yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter) writes:
|>      Announcing two new mailing lists on yggdrasil.com:
|> 
<cut>
|>      yggdrasil-announce@yggdrasil.com is for Yggdrasil
|> announcements only.  Subscribe to this list if you want to get
|> announcements from us rather than daily email discussions.  To join,
|> send an email message to majordomo@yggdrasil.com with "subscribe
|> yggdrasil-users" in the body of the message (not in the subject line).
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   presumably yggdrasil-announce

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From: twang@menudo.uh.edu (Ted C. Wang)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: who wants POV for Linux ???
Date: 1 Jun 1994 15:19:04 GMT

Alexandre Rousseau (alexr@willow.login.qc.ca) wrote:
: In article <2rvnl9INNjed@CS.UTK.EDU> peek@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Michael Peek) writes:
: > : >How many readers would be interested in an officially-compiled and
: > : >supported version of POVRAY, with X-Windows support, for LINUX ???
: > 
: > : Yes, I'm interested in POVRAY for Linux.
: > : Patrick Reijnen
: > 
: > I'm voting yes too.
: > Mike Peek - peek@math.utk.edu
: > 

Please include me also.


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   `&'   e-mail: twang@menudo.uh.edu                | Ted Wang
    #    -------------------------------------------+ Dept. Electrical Eng.
    #       "I seem to have been only like a boy    | University of Houston
   _#_       playing on the seashore and diverting  | Houston, TX 77004
  ( # )      myself in now and then finding a       | U.S.A.
  / O \      smoother pebble or prettier shell than |
 ( === )     ordinary, whilst the great ocean of    |
  `---'      truth lay all undiscovered before me." |
                                -Sir Issac Newton   |
====================================================+

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: dhd@netcom.com (David H Dennis)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Boca 16-Port Serial Card
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:13:07 GMT

I thank both of you for your help, and I will be changing my FAQ (and my
system!) accordingly.  I was definitely annoyed by not having 'w' and 'who'
working properly, so this is much better than my little workaround.

D

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From: flimm@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de (Oliver Flimm)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: [Help] Memory PARITY Error?
Date: 1 Jun 94 11:27:54

Hi,

is it probably a virus... Some time ago I had the 'parity'-virus on my box.
The screen went black and a message like 'parity check' appeared. 

Try a virus-killer....

Greetings,

Oliver

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From: monica@cis.ufl.edu (Monica Sweat)
Subject: NCR SCSI-II hard drive controller/Linux
Date: 1 Jun 1994 15:37:37 GMT


Hi,

What's the latest story on the support for NCR's SCSI-II hard drive controller
for a PCI based machine?  Anyone have this working?  I'd really like to get a PCI
486-66 machine with SCSI-II, but have read that the drivers are not finished for
the NCR driver. 

Thanks in advance,
Monica

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From: adam@adam.yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter)
Subject: Re: Will my cdrom work?
Date: 1 Jun 1994 08:08:55 GMT

In article <HANKEDR.94Jun1073106@mallard.mail.auburn.edu>,
Darrel Hankerson <hankedr@mail.auburn.edu> wrote:
>In article <2shk0q$k5r@garion.it.com.au> figjam@garion.it.com.au (Karl Ferguson) writes:
>
>   I run OS/2 and I am going to convert over to Linux.  <smile>
>   I have a NEC CDR55JD cdrom attached to a Trantor T130 SCSI adapter,
>   can I run BOTH of these under Linux?  Please email replies.  Thanks :)
>
>The Trantor T130(B?) may be troublesome. Yggdrasil reports success [...]

        Excuse me?  We reported no such thing.  You are perhaps
thinking of the tests we did on the Trantor T128, which is not the
same as the T130.

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From: edunet@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Edunetics)
Subject: fixup table!?
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:57:33 GMT


        The never ending sega of my computer brings me to a new border of
unknown problems :-(

        Today I tried to install )again( Slackware 1.2.0 )after the
previos time it gave me segmentation failure( and the error it returned me
at the start of the install was: 'corrupted fixup table'. Can anyone shed
some light on what this means. The system I use is a DX2/66 with 8Mb ram
and a 130Mb seagate disk. The disk has a novell dos 7 partition that was
secured )novell dos' security(. The secure of the partition table was
taken off because it didn't let me edit the partition table.
                
                        Paolo



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From: edunet@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Edunetics)
Subject: mouse and X
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:06:08 GMT


        I have a problem I don't know how to solve. I havea attached to a
Linux box here a microsoft mouse. the only place where the mouse refuses
to work is in X. Any suggestions to how to fix this problem??


PS - I need an answer as soon as possible (my slip line depends on it :-(


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From: dehartog@kwetal.comcons.nl (Hans de Hartog)
Subject: Re: PD NFS-Client software for PC (under DOS) ...
Date: 1 Jun 1994 00:11:56 +0100

Heiko Schlittermann (heiko@lotte.sax.de) wrote:
| In article <CqLCKE.5uB@hphbbs.e.open.de>,
| H.P.Heidinger <hph@hphbbs.e.open.de> wrote:
| >  Does anybody outhere know about NFS-Client software for a PC
| >  under DOS which is in the public domain?

| Look for nfs02?-?.zip.

| -- heiko

More spefically:

        nfs025-w.zip  (WatTCP)
        nfs025-t.zip  (Trumpet ABI)
        nfs025-m.zip  (MS LanMan TCP/IP, HP, 3Com)
        nfs025-n.zip  (Novell LAN WorkPlace)

You can send your order to (yes, it's shareware) nfs@tsoft.net
or (as is the intend of shareware) try before you buy and get
the file(s) from polyslo.calpoly.edu:/pub/mdurkin/nfs
-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________________
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 Committed Consultancy BV, Korenmolenlaan 1b, 3447 GG Woerden, The Netherlands 

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From: steve@adam.com.au (Stephen White)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: FAQ: Boca 16-Port Serial Card
Date: 1 Jun 1994 14:58:57 -0000

David H Dennis (dhd@netcom.com) wrote:
: BOCA-FAQ
: Installing a Boca 16-port serial card (Boca 2016) with Linux

I had posted a lengthy message a while ago (about 3 or 4 months ago) that
detailed installing a BOCA board. It doesn't appear that you have read this
though:

So - here are my comments.

: In /usr/src/linux (kernel build area), edit config.in.  Add the line 
:    bool 'BocaBoard Serial Interface support' CONFIG_BOCA y

This is the way I recommended doing it in my original posting.

:       { BASE_BAUD, 0x100, 12, BOCA_FLAGS },   /* ttyS16 */
:       { BASE_BAUD, 0x108, 12, BOCA_FLAGS },   /* ttyS17 */

The new kernel versions require setserial to initialise the ports properly:

The following works properly in /etc/rc.d/rc.serial:

${SETSERIAL} /dev/cuaa autoconfig
${SETSERIAL} /dev/cuab autoconfig
${SETSERIAL} /dev/cuac autoconfig
${SETSERIAL} /dev/cuad autoconfig

etc.

Notice the names I've given the ports. Read below for why.

:     mknod /dev/cua16 4 80
:     mknod /dev/cua17 4 81

Should be
           mknod /dev/cuaa 5 80
           mknod /dev/cuab 5 81
 and also
           mknod /dev/ttySa 4 80
           mknod /dev/ttySb 4 81

Note - tty's are major device 4, cua are major device 5.

: I have had one major problem using the card with Linux, and it's been
: confirmed by at least one other person.  The 'who' command often does
: not pick up people who are logged in through the BocaBoard's ports.

This is because the /etc/utmp structure doesn't seem to have enough room for
the longer device names. "/dev/ttySa" it can handle, but not "/dev/ttyS16".
The work around for this was to name each Boca port by a letter rather than
a number.

Your solution is not recommended because too many programs rely on
/etc/utmp, so anyone wanting to run multiple ports on anything but a BBS
will have considerable trouble.

--
  steve@adam.com.au

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Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 01:03:05 +0200
From: Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
Subject: Re: Use of apple SCSI drives possible?


Hello Tim Bandy and all others,

on 30.05.94 Tim Bandy wrote to All in USENET.COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC:

TB>    I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to use an apple
TB> SCSI hard drive with the apple ROMs on a pc without getting new ROMs.  I
TB> had heard that this might make it very difficult.  I don't want to read
TB> the info off of the mac filesystem, just do a low-level format on the
TB> disk.  Is this possible?

I have once "borrowed" an Apple CD-150 from a neighboured MAC and it
showed up as a "Sony 8002" under Linux and worked. I did not try
the audio functions - just data.

Greetings ... Eberhard


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From: unkadath!shamus@naucse.cse.nau.edu (James W. Abensdchan)
Subject: "selection" via keyboard?
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:28:17 GMT

Has anyone modified selection to use the keyboard to cut & paste text
instead of the mouse?  If so, where can I pick this up?

Also, a while ago someone posted to either here or alt.hackers that
they had written a program to use the 3 "lock" lights to display
a neato little visible display of the load average, something like
a heartbeat.  Is this program available somewhere?  I hacked one up,
but it only works in the VC it was invoked in and has the unfortunate
side effect of actually performing the lock (ie; if I ioctl the capslock
light, caps lock is on.)  I'm sure this is normal behaviour, but I'd
like to be able to cirumvent it.

Thanks,

James

-- 
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...!naucse!unkadath!shamus    shamus@unkadath.uucp      jwa@sunset.cse.nau.edu

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From: bhogan@crl.com (Bill Hogan)
Subject: [X/XF86_VGA16/xterm] Make my day.
Date: 1 Jun 1994 00:29:35 -0700

  By a lenghthy (3 days) process of trial and error, I have discovered that
the only way I can get readable text in an xterm window since I started
using the XF86_VGA16 server is if I invoke xterm as follows: 

        xterm -fg magenta

  When I do this, what I see on my new Relisys RM9502 "paper-white" VGA
monitor (16 grey-levels) is absolutely fantastic -- so fantastic that I
almost don't care if my ADI/3E ever comes back from the factory! 

 If you, like me, are mainly interested in things like TeX and you have 
never tried using this monitor ($150), I *highly* recommend it! You'll 
have to see it to believe it. (I have printer's ink in my veins, I guess.)

  However, this "magenta" trick only works when I invoke xterm myself,
from the Linux prompt. 

  What I want to know is how I can make all of the instances of xterm that
come up when I am running under X to come up the same way xterm comes up
when I invoke it directly from the Linux prompt as per the above.

  I have tried putting the line

        XTerm.Foreground: magenta

into a file named '.Xdefaults' in my $HOME directory, but that did not work.

 I tried the same thing using a file named '.Xresources' and that did not 
work.

 I can't believe how *great* the stuff I am typing at this moment looks
under 'openwin' and I would be ecstatic if I could make this "magenta" 
trick work globally!!!

 So, how about it?

 Come on, make my day.

 <B)-

p.s. I used kermit in xterm to post this note.
 
 
-- 
  Bill Hogan
{bhogan@crl.com}

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From: datadec@corsa.ucr.edu (Kevin Marcus)
Subject: Re: Viruses and Linux
Date: 1 Jun 1994 19:04:51 GMT

In article <2si335INN12g9@rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de>,
Markus Wischerath <mw@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote:
>
>datadec@ucrengr.ucr.edu (Kevin Marcus) writes:
>
>[lots of arrogant babbling from a self-styled computer virologist 
>deleted]
>
>Ok, this thread now goes into my kill file. If anyone enjoyed the way this
>guy leads a discussion, go read comp.virus. This is where jerks like this 
>one appear to themselves every day (on closed circuit TV, to make sure 
>they're still real). <- Email for solution. Duh. 

I wonder: would most people rather listen to a correct arrogant babbling
[xxxx] virologist, OR
would most people rather listen to someone babble off incorrect information
and help make people have the wrong ideas about what viruses can and/or
can't do.



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  "ciafn  syoo,u  yroeua da rteh icso?o l ." <- Email for solution. 
  Computer  Science  Dept.,  University of California,  Riverside.
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From: glenn@physics.su.OZ.AU (Glenn Geers)
Subject: [WANTED] Source for UDP redirector for term
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 22:39:10 GMT

Hi,
        I saw a posting on comp.os.linux.announce regarding term that said that
there were several UDP redirectors floating around. However the original poster
didn't know where to find them. Anyone know?

Replies by email please.

Thanks in advance
        Glenn

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From: pfeifer@lf.hp.com (Mark Pfeifer)
Subject: Future Domain TMC850MCD & Toshiba 3401
Date: 1 Jun 1994 20:33:51 GMT

I'm having trouble getting Linux to see the Toshiba 3401 attached to 
a Future Domain TMC850MCD SCSI card.  [The rest of the computer is an HP
Vectra 486/25U EISA, 12MB RAM, 240MB IDE hard disk]

Through the use of the boot parameter "tmc8xx=0xca00,5" I've been able to
get Linux (Slackware 1.2.0, from Trans-Ameritech's CD #3) to see the SCSI
card, but it reports "0 tapes, 0 drives, 0 CD-ROMs".  The CD is at SCSI
address 2, and can be seen by the Future Domain BIOS (v8.4), Windows 3.1, 
and Windows NT 3.1.

The CD is the only device on the SCSI bus, and is connected to the last
connector on the SCSI cable.  It has terminating resistors installed, and
is supplying termination power.  I've tried different SCSI addresses,
turned parity on and off - no luck.

Does anyone know how to get this combination to work?  Linux looks promising,
but I can't get it installed until I get the CD working (I really don't want
to make a large number of floppies to get X installed, when I have the CD
right there.)

Alternatively, anyone have personal experience with another low-cost SCSI
card that they know works with Linux and the Toshiba 3401?

[BTW - Yes, I've read the SCSI how-to, and all of the other how-tos on my
 CD, but have yet to find that one magic pearl of wisdom.]

Thanks for any help.

                                                Mark
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From: habaoch@eng.auburn.edu (Bao Chau Ha)
Subject: Re: Use of apple SCSI drives possible?
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:46:20 GMT

In article <2a4ebff4@p27.f210.n2437.z2.fidonet.org> Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg) writes:
>
>Hello Tim Bandy and all others,
>
>on 30.05.94 Tim Bandy wrote to All in USENET.COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC:
>
>TB>    I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to use an apple
>TB> SCSI hard drive with the apple ROMs on a pc without getting new ROMs.  I
>TB> had heard that this might make it very difficult.  I don't want to read
>TB> the info off of the mac filesystem, just do a low-level format on the
>TB> disk.  Is this possible?
>
Yes.  No problem.  I use the Apple 1 gig drive, actually it is a
Seagate ST11200N with an Apple firmware, with DOS/Windows, OS/2,
and Linux.

>I have once "borrowed" an Apple CD-150 from a neighboured MAC and it
>showed up as a "Sony 8002" under Linux and worked. I did not try
>the audio functions - just data.
>
I have used an Apple CDSC, a Sony 8001 mechanism, with Linux.  The
audio does not work at all, but the data portion works great.

Bao

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