Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #194
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Date:     Tue, 31 May 94 12:13:13 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #194, Volume #2                Tue, 31 May 94 12:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  diskless under linux (Emmanuel TLEMCANI)
  Re: Competitive upgrade! Linux Plus CD-ROM! (George N. Akimoff)
  Best 16 port serial I/O expansion box to use with Linux? (Michael N Milde)
  Re: Viruses and Linux (Markus Wischerath)
  Colarado QFA-700 tape drive.... (Kit-pui Wong  kpwong@cuhk.hk)
  Re: Best 16 port serial I/O expansion box to use with Linux? (Barry Flanagan)
  Re: PD NFS-Client software for PC (under DOS) ... (Heiko Schlittermann)
  Re: Improving Linux performance: What works best? (Michael O'Reilly)
  (Q) Any linux posters, or other material? (Timothy Murphy)
  ** XS3 server problem (Laurent JULLIARD)
  Re: Competitive upgrade! Linux Plus CD-ROM! (Dan Newcombe)
  Re: find MOSAIC, find FSSTND (J. Lawrence Stephan)
  Re: Kernel panic on install (Burton Bicksler)
  Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again) (Mark A. Davis)

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From: tlemcani@cli53av.der.edf.fr (Emmanuel TLEMCANI)
Subject: diskless under linux
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 11:59:49 GMT

 
        Hi,
        
        I'm trying to boot a diskless (sun3/110LC) under linux 0.99 PL15.

        It seems that linux doesn't respond to arp request of the sun.
        Perhaps I have misunderstood something ? (surely in fact :-) )
        Perhaps must I try linux 1.xx ?
        Perhaps net-files aren't well configure ?

        Anyone got an idea ?

        Thanx in advance.
                                Manu 


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
From: iga@ipmce.su (George N. Akimoff)
Subject: Re: Competitive upgrade! Linux Plus CD-ROM!
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 09:45:53 GMT

In <CqMtnH.IqF@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> bcrwhims@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Carsten Whimster) writes:

>In article <2scugn$dsc@openlink.openlink.com>,
>Roman Yanovsky  roman@btr.com <roman@btr.btr.com> wrote:
>>      !!!! Attention, users of the Linux and BSD operating systems !!!!

>[snip]

>>To make it easier for you to compare our product to others, for a limited time
>>we offer a COMPETITIVE UPGRADE for half the price!
>>
>>                        !!! HERE IS THE DEAL !!!
>>
>>Send us ANY OLD CDROM Software Title in ANY condition, and we'll mail
>>the great Trans-Ameritech Linux Plus CDROM for ONLY $20.
>>
>>
>>      New Release of Trans-Ameritech Linux Plus CD-ROM! 

>[snip]

>Sounds neat. The upgrade offer sounds like you can send in any old
>CD-ROM you don't use any more, but I imagine it has to be a LINUX
>CD-ROM?

>Does anyone have any experience with these people? How are they? Is
>the CD worth it ($20 or ~$40, I guess)? How is this compared to the
>Walnut Creek stuff?

I'm very happy with Trans-Ameritech Linux CDROM. I beleive it's a
best Linux CDROM avaliable here (in Russia ;-). It was my first
'free Unix try' and I haven't any noticeable problems.

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From: mmilde@hubcap.clemson.edu (Michael N Milde)
Subject: Best 16 port serial I/O expansion box to use with Linux?
Date: 31 May 1994 12:16:05 GMT


I need to add 16 serial ports to my PC.  I'll be running Linux and want
to know what serial I/O expansion box works well with it.  What are your
suggestions and/or experiences?

Thanks,
Mike Milde
mmilde@hubcap.clemson.edu
 

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From: mw@spinfo.Uni-Koeln.DE (Markus Wischerath)
Subject: Re: Viruses and Linux
Date: 31 May 1994 12:15:33 GMT
Reply-To: mw@spinfo.uni-koeln.de


datadec@corsa.ucr.edu (Kevin Marcus) writes:
> 
> In article <9C9OB46N@math.fu-berlin.de>,
> Markus Wischerath <mw@spinfo.Uni-Koeln.DE> wrote:
> >
> >ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard) writes:
> >> 
> >> Can anyone E-Mail me some information about viruses and Linux and how about
> >> anti-viruses.
> >> 
> >Um, what do you mean? There are no Unix viruses you need to worry about at
> >this point in time. There are a few lab-only viruses, and the only one that
> >could possibly spread beteween different hardware platforms is a shell-
> >script infector. 
> >
> >As for MS-DOG viruses, they don't work under Linux... well, some "well-
> >behaved" ones *may* work under dosemu. If you catch an DBR/MBR infector, 
> >Linux will crash. Putting LILO in your MBR is a good protection against 
> >Stoned and such critters. :) The best DOG-based antivirus program is 
> >F-Prot, BTW.   
> >
> LILO will be obliterated by a virus like Stoned.  The most usual way for

Sure, but at that point you'll notice that something's wrong. Recently,
someone had a Stoned.Empire.Monkey.B infection, so that Linux couldn't
mount /. You know of course that Monkey doesn't save the partition table
in place, so this a special case, but I don't believe Linux will run
normally even with the vanilla Stoned active in memory. 

> 
> Most viruses will execute without problem under the dos emulator to some
> extent.  I've had a few occasional ones lock up the whole computer, and a
> few others just thrash about and eventually quit the emulator.
>
Ok, non-resident ones will probably work. 

> 
> On what basis do you claim that F-Prot is the best scanner?  

Simple: run it on the 40hex collection (still availabale by ftp, I think),
manipulate an infected pklited file slightly (you know exactly what I mean,
I think) etc. and take a look at the results. Also, I've never seen F-Prot 
botch a repair attempt, but I've seen other programs (namely Scan and MSAV) 
happily zap hard disks when trying to repair Form or Tequila. No further 
comments necessary, I believe. 

> There is not such thing as a "BEST" scanner.  There *IS* such thing as a

*sigh* But there is such a thing as a scanner with a very high detection 
rate and best identification, easy to use for beginners and free for 
individual use. 

> best selling scanner, or even a "better" defense against viruses.  Oh,
> you must be talkign about the integrity checker that it has, right? Er...

Duh... The shareware version of F-Prot doesn't even have an integrity 
checker.

> Try somethign else, like Norton Anti-Virus 3.0 for a better all-round
> general protection.  Plus, when something goes wrong, you have someone
> you can call up that will take care of you.
> 

Well, as for that matter, Frisk is the only antivirus head developer who 
is present on the net, not only in comp.virus, but also in various MS-DOS
groups. 

--Markus               
mw@spinfo.uni-koeln.de            # rm -rf / and one was assaulted...peanut


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: kpwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Kit-pui Wong  kpwong@cuhk.hk)
Subject: Colarado QFA-700 tape drive....
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:28:44 GMT

Dear Linux friends,

I am going to buy a Cipher ST-350 (Colarado QFA-700 OEM) 
tape drive. Is there anybody who has tried this drive ?
Or do you have any knowledge about this drive ?

Please send any hint to my Internet account ....

Thanks in advance!
KiT
kpwong@se.cuhk.hk


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From: barryf@iol.ie (Barry Flanagan)
Subject: Re: Best 16 port serial I/O expansion box to use with Linux?
Date: 31 May 1994 12:53:47 GMT

Michael N Milde (mmilde@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote:

: I need to add 16 serial ports to my PC.  I'll be running Linux and want
: to know what serial I/O expansion box works well with it.  What are your
: suggestions and/or experiences?

I'd highly recommend instead using a terminal server (we use the Xylogics
Annex3 and I can't say enough good about it!). This will allow serial 
connections to any device on the network, and also has great security, 
rock-solid SLIP/PPP and lots more.

A little more expensive at first than a good multi-serial card, but it 
will pay you back every day in performance and versitility.

Hope this helps.

-Barry
 
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From: heiko@lotte.sax.de (Heiko Schlittermann)
Subject: Re: PD NFS-Client software for PC (under DOS) ...
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 11:10:20 GMT

In article <CqLCKE.5uB@hphbbs.e.open.de>,
H.P.Heidinger <hph@hphbbs.e.open.de> wrote:
>  Does anybody outhere know about NFS-Client software for a PC
>  under DOS which is in the public domain?

Look for nfs02?-?.zip.

-- heiko

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From: michael@iinet.com.au (Michael O'Reilly)
Subject: Re: Improving Linux performance: What works best?
Date: 31 May 1994 20:54:45 +0800

Queenie (cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote:

[...]
: If you must use a PC, get a fast Hard drive, and a fast SCSI card.
: This is about all you can do.  Processor speed doesn't mean anything
: when we are talking DMA file transfer.  No PC was ever meant to
: be a full feed news server.

Agreed. Note that if you use something like a BT445S for a scsi card,
then you're running it bus mastered , so forget the terrible DMA
speed.

[...]
: Current activity is more than 2GB of news if you expire every two weeks.
: For a busy network. ANY (read ANY) machine will sit with the
: hard drive cranking 24 hours a day.  You are limited by Hard Drive
: Access time. Remember, even a very slow CPU is much faster than a
: hard drive.

Some real facts. We run a 486/66, with a 340 meg IDE, a 1.4 gig SCSI,
and a 1.05 GIG scsi, on a BT445S, with 20 megs mem.

This machine handles a full news feed, and feeds 3 other sites.  It
handles up to about 14 users simultaneously, and handle PPP and SLIP
links for the same. It's also our mail server.

The 1 gig disk is entirely for news. the name indexs (history etc) are
on the IDE.

With this set, feeding news via NNTP, the load due to news basically
isn't noticable. The news contributes about .1 -> .2 to the load. The
VERY important things.

get the indexs OFF the same disk as the news. This produced a huge
improvement. Get everything else of the news disk. The news disk is
always running lots of traffic and will slow everything else down.
Have lots of mem. Typically you want enough mem that it can cache
about 4 - 6 megs of disk.

[...]
: Perhaps a MicroVAX?  
: Shop around for something with fast I/O,
: just about everything can beat a PC.

Well, you don't need to go that far. As above, it works pretty well.
And this is giving that we're running reap, so it expires some news
every 10 mins..

We're pretty happy with it.

Michael.
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From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: (Q) Any linux posters, or other material?
Date: 31 May 1994 14:54:45 +0100

We are holding a Linux Day in Dublin on June 29th,
and wondered if anyone knew where we can find
Linux posters, or similar publicity material.

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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From: laurentj@samsara.grenoble.hp.com (Laurent JULLIARD)
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 08:14:09 GMT
Subject: ** XS3 server problem
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix

Hello there,


   I have a PC with the S3/928 video chipset integrated on the mother
board along with 1 Mbyte of memory. When I run Xfree (version 2.0) I have
a clean and stable image _but_ when I move windows accross the screen 
horizontal white dotted lines appear. If I make a refresh (with xrefresh) 
the screen comes back to normal.

   I have tried all sorts of options (nomemaccess, nolinear, etc...) but it
still persists. 

   Did anybody experienced this kind of problem 
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From: newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Competitive upgrade! Linux Plus CD-ROM!
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 09:51:15 UNDEFINED

In article <CqMtnH.IqF@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> bcrwhims@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Carsten Whimster) writes:

>>Send us ANY OLD CDROM Software Title in ANY condition, and we'll mail
>>the great Trans-Ameritech Linux Plus CDROM for ONLY $20.
>Sounds neat. The upgrade offer sounds like you can send in any old
>CD-ROM you don't use any more, but I imagine it has to be a LINUX
>CD-ROM?

I don't know...sound's like *ANY* cd rom title :)

>Does anyone have any experience with these people? How are they? Is
>the CD worth it ($20 or ~$40, I guess)? How is this compared to the
>Walnut Creek stuff?

Cheaper.  Oddly enuff, I live in a neighboorhood named Walnut Creek... :)

Anyway...I have a Trans-Ameritech CD from last Winter (93).   I love the 
thing.  The price was right, speedy service, and very nice people.   I don't 
think I found any major problems.  Any minor problems I think were just that I 
would have done it differently.

Time to dig up an old CDROM :)

--
Dan Newcombe                    newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu
Clayton State College           Morrow, Georgia
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From: jlarry@marlin.ssnet.com (J. Lawrence Stephan)
Subject: Re: find MOSAIC, find FSSTND
Date: 31 May 1994 09:47:53 -0400

zachary brown (zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu) wrote:

: A friend of mine would like MOSAIC, if it's available by ftp. Anyone
: know a site?

: I would like to find the linux file system standard. I can't find it in
: the usual places. Is it still being maintained?

: Zack.

Look at sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/Network/info-systems for mosaic.
version 2.1 requires the newer libc etc.

Don't know about FSSTND.  It is being maintained, and has a developers 
mail list somewhere.  I retrieved it recently, bud didn't keep a record 
of where I found it :-(.

Larry Stephan
jlarry@ssnet.com


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From: bbick@netcom.com (Burton Bicksler)
Subject: Re: Kernel panic on install
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:21:40 GMT

Stephen Soghoian (Stephens@drjazz.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article: <crussellCq31tr.3KJ@netcom.com>  crussell@netcom.com (Chris 
: Russell) writes:
: > 
: > Yesterday, I tried to install Linux (from the SLS distribution 1.05)
: > onto my new 486DX2-66 PCI PC, but got a kernel panic just after
: > scanning the SCSI chain.
: > > task[0] (swapper) killed: unable to recover
: > > kernel panic: trying to free up swapper memory space
: > > in swapper mode - not syncing
: > 
: > My PC has a GigaByte PCI motherboard (but no PCI cards yet), 16MB RAM,
: > Future Domain SCSI 16xx, Microp 1.7GB HD, Trident SVGA, SMC 16C Ultra
: Hello Chris
: I got a similar prob using a 386 PC with the FD 1660 SCSI card. It 
: gave me the same message and didnt like my seagate SCSI Hard disk.
: I was using slackware 1.11 Linux from Trans-Ameritech Vol 2 CD-ROM

: I just FTP (using MS-DOS S/W) from Sunsite.unc.edu 
: some of the basic Slackware vers 1.20 and that works fine with with
: the FD 1660 card. So maybe you should try another Linux (newer)
: distribution ?

: Stephen Soghoian
: Yank in London
: stephens@drjazz.demon.co.uk

Hi,

I thought I'd jump in here since I have had a similar problem with the 
Yggdrasil Summer 94 release.  I can definitely tell you that it is NOT 
the SCSI controller issue.

System configuration:
386 20Mhz 4Mbytes of RAM Serial / Parallel card, MFM Western Digital 
Hard/Floppy ctrlr card, FD 850 SCSI with Chion CDROM.

I get exactly the same error with or without the SCSI HAB and Serial/Par 
card installed in the machine.

BTW Phonenix BIOS 1.10.00 which is the same ROM that I have in a newer 
machine at work.  The machine here at work gets all the way through the 
loader and complains about not being able to mount root, which is ok 
since I don't have a CDROM on this system.

I thought that it might have been due to only having 4 MBytes or RAM on 
my system that I was testing with at home, but if you had 16 Megs then 
that idea isn't valid.  Since this appeared in the SLS version as well as 
what I'm seeing on the Yggdrasil release it sounds like some kind of 
glitch in Linux proper.  Kind of hard do debug further but I might try 
disabling the hard disk controller in my system to see if somthing 
strange is happening there.

Perhaps someone from SLS or Yggdrasil would jump in here to offer a 
suggestion.

Burt

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                                             bbick@netcom.com

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From: mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again)
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:57:04 GMT

sta@whale.micro.umn.edu (Shawn T. Amundson) writes:

>Byron A Jeff (byron@cc.gatech.edu) wrote:
>: In article <2scudj$2e8c@ns2.cc.lehigh.edu>,
>: DAVID L. JOHNSON <dlj0@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU> wrote:
>: >Do you think any full-featured WYSIWYG wordprocessor can get by with less?
>: >Looked at WP lately?

>: I have. A full release of WP 6.0 for windows takes about 30 Meg. It's

>Ughh.  But it CAN run an a simple monochrome monitor...
>Actually, shouldn't we compare it to WP 6.0 for DOS?  We're not writing
>LWPS in a graphical interface (like X-Windows), but on top of a text
>environment. 

Why not compare it to WP 6.0 for Unix?  And the size of the files really
depends on how mush stuff you load (IE fonts, printer drivers, clip art,
help files, learn files, etc, etc, etc).

Personally, I still think the best wordprocessor is one which has 
text, text/graphics preview, AND GUI versions (like WordPerfect for Unix).
This way, the user can support all display devices:  dumb and smart 
ASCII terminals, graphics preview terminals, console, and X/Xterminals.  It
would also allow the user to decide how much resources can or would be
devoted to it (X/GUI does use quite a bit of memory and CPU).
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