Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #185
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Sat, 28 May 94 19:13:07 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #185, Volume #2                Sat, 28 May 94 19:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux for large amounts of e-mail (Russell Nelson)
  Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux? (Zenon Fortuna)
  Re: 4 MB too little for linux (S Parker)
  emacs as a screen restorer (Berk Walker)
  Re: Competitive upgrade: Linux Plus CD-ROM (Stephen Soghoian)
  Address of Linux Journals ? (david her)
  Help!!! I went from 8->20MB of memory and get Oops:0002! (Dorwin Shields)
  dbx port to linux? (Si-Hao Goi)
  Re: 4 MB too little for linux (Beeblebrox)
  Re: emacs as a screen restorer (Beeblebrox)
  Mach OS/multi-thread programming on Linux... (Ti-Pin Chang)
  Adaptec 2940 and Linux problems?  Fast/Wide! (Brad Block)
  Re: Adaptec 2940 and Linux problems?  Fast/Wide! (Drew Eckhardt)
  Re: 4 MB too little for linux (David Holland)
  Pentium 60/Linux1.0/PCI/EISA Blazes !! (bass@cais.com)
  Re: Pentium 60/Linux1.0/PCI/EISA Blazes !! (bass@cais.com)
  Re: 4 MB too little for linux (Ed Thomson)
  Re: New Linux BBS under developement! NEED YOUR HELP! (H. Peter Anvin)
  Re: Looking for Linux BBS Software (Sanford Zelkovitz)
  Re: Address of Linux Journals ? (Michael K. Johnson)

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From: nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Subject: Re: Linux for large amounts of e-mail
Date: 28 May 1994 18:15:22 GMT

In article <1994May25.020405.27150@alw.nih.gov> dgould@alw.nih.gov (Danny Gould) writes:

      We are running a SUN with many thousands of users and wanted to offload
   the mail sending and receiving as well as local news server (we are not
   carrying USENET, just local groups) and smaller services to a Linux box.  I
   was wondering if people had experince with running massive amounts of
   e-mail on a Linux box and any hints.

I would proceed cautiously.  The TCP/IP stack is still not 100%
interoperable.

--
-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>      ftp.msen.com:pub/vendor/crynwr/crynwr.wav
Crynwr Software   | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key
11 Grant St.      | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX)    | Quakers do it in the light
Potsdam, NY 13676 | LPF member - ask me about the harm software patents do.

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From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Subject: Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux?
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 19:56:12 GMT

In article <Cq7IBz.8Ds@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>,
william.c.brown <corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> wrote:
[...]
>       While I'll agree that a 486/66 or 586/[60,66] will out perform
>       a Sparc II in some tests, but the Sparc still walks away from
>       Intel in terms of floating point performance.
>
>       Note the following code:
>
>       #include <stdio.h>
>       #include <math.h>
>       #include <time.h>
>       main()
>       {
>               double  x,y[1000000];
>               int     i;
>               time_t  t;
>       
>               time(&t);
>               for (i=0;i<100000;i++)
>                       {
>                       x=11.0+(33.5*i)*(33.5*i);
>                       y[i]=(sin(3.1*i)+cos(5.1*i))*sqrt(x+exp(3.14*log(x+i)));
>                       }
>               printf("time=%d\n",time(0)-t);
>       }
>
>       This takes "4" seconds on my Sparc II and "22" seconds on my
>       P5/60. Now I have not compiled this code optimized for the P5
>       yet, so maybe the story will change when I do compile it for
>       the P5.

You are doing something wrong. I have run your *test* on my P5-66 and the
result is in most cases "time=1" (but on somehow more busy system I have seen
the "time=2").

        Zenon

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From: sp14@tower.york.ac.uk (S Parker)
Subject: Re: 4 MB too little for linux
Date: 28 May 1994 18:51:28 GMT

Mr. Ed (ed.duomo@lambada.oit.unc.edu) wrote:
: I installed the latest Slackware on my 4 MB system. The installation
: is pretty standard (the installation process, BTW, was a breeze, and I
: was impressed by the quality of the installation program). Now with
: kermit in one VT and nothing but the shell in another, linux thrashes
: pretty badly even for the simplest of commands, e.g. ls. If I try to
: login on a 3rd VT, it takes about 2-3 minutes till I'm dropped to the
: shell.


You are using _some_ swap space I take it?  If not then you can expect 
just the same as you would without the ( temporarily added if necessary )
swap in windows.

I unse Linux in 4 meg ( 1.0 mind ) And have had the same sort of response
when ( before bing correctly setup ) the swap wasn't being used.

Stephen.

: Could this be improved upon? I thought linux was supposd to run
: smoothly with 4 MB. BTW, the only thing non-standard in my
: installation is that I'm using kernel 1.1.2 instead of the one that
: came with Slackware.

: For the record, Windows thrashes very little or almost never on this
: same system, and that's with 9 applications open. Not that I'm a fan
: of Windows.

: Ed


--

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~  i really don't know what i'm doing here         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~  i really think i should've gone to bed tonight  ~  SP14@UK.AC.YORK   ~
~  but... just one drink                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: berk@kaiwan.com (Berk Walker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: emacs as a screen restorer
Date: 28 May 1994 11:57:11 -0700


remember stty sane?
when my mono screen gets clobbered by line noise, or killing a program, 
and things don't scroll, or line up, or the cursor is gone, loading emacs 
and exiting seems to always fix things.  neat.
-- 
Berk Walker - Member: Bill Nelson Fan Club        internet: berk@kaiwan.com
13 Years, Tech. Support - 10 Years Tech. Support Management - AVAILABLE NOW
Offset Lithography, Computers, Electronics, Mechanics 818.766.8993 (voice)
                        OSHA/CALOSHA COMPLIANCE

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From: stephens@drjazz.demon.co.uk (Stephen Soghoian)
Subject: Re: Competitive upgrade: Linux Plus CD-ROM
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 16:24:36 +0000

Traans Ameritech Competitive Upgrades.
Does this offer include customers who want to send in previous versions
of your CD (volume 2) to get the upgrade for $20 ?

thanks in advance

-- 
Stephen Soghoian
Yank in London
stephens@drjazz.demon.co.uk

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From: davidher@netcom.com (david her)
Subject: Address of Linux Journals ?
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 19:01:49 GMT

Could anyone tell me how to contact Linux  journals ? Thanks in advance.


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From: parprods@exmidway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Dorwin Shields)
Subject: Help!!! I went from 8->20MB of memory and get Oops:0002!
Date: 28 May 1994 06:32:36 GMT

   I installed 16MB of memory just tonight and when I tried to boot
linux the kernel died with Oops:0002 error--Is my memory bad--It
said something about being unable to service a kernel paging request
Thanks,
Dorwin

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From: gois@gehrig.cs.rpi.edu (Si-Hao Goi)
Subject: dbx port to linux?
Date: 28 May 1994 06:38:35 GMT

hi guys,
        i've looked thru the index file of the linux sub dir of sunsite,
but can't seem to find dbx. dbx is a c debugger that i've been using at sch.
does anyone know where if it has been ported to linux, and if it has, where
can i find it? thanks a lot

regards,
si-hao (gois@cs.rpi.edu)

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From: mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Beeblebrox)
Subject: Re: 4 MB too little for linux
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 19:43:58 GMT

ed.duomo@lambada.oit.unc.edu ("Mr. Ed") writes:

>Now with kermit in one VT and nothing but the shell in another, linux
>thrashes pretty badly even for the simplest of commands, e.g. ls. 

Make sure that you re-compile the kernel with the things that you don't want
taken out and make sure that there isn't a ram disk being loaded.

>If I try to login on a 3rd VT, it takes about 2-3 minutes till I'm dropped
>to the shell.

That's very wrong.

Try "ps -aux":

and take a look at the resident sizes of running tasks.
___
mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk                 M.S.Ashton@csv.warwick.ac.uk
C++ consultant and emacs support.         Mail me if you have any problems.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Beeblebrox)
Subject: Re: emacs as a screen restorer
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 20:04:00 GMT

berk@kaiwan.com (Berk Walker) writes:

>remember stty sane?
>when my mono screen gets clobbered by line noise, or killing a program, 
>and things don't scroll, or line up, or the cursor is gone, loading emacs 
>and exiting seems to always fix things.  neat.

Have you tried "reset" ?
___
mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk                 M.S.Ashton@csv.warwick.ac.uk
C++ consultant and emacs support.         Mail me if you have any problems.

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From: tchang@netcom.com (Ti-Pin Chang)
Subject: Mach OS/multi-thread programming on Linux...
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 20:09:31 GMT

Hi, 

I wonder if the Linux and gcc support "threads" in the context of
parallel processing? If I need to do some "multi-threads"
programming on Linux, what packages do I need?

Thanks in advance,

Ben


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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Subject: Adaptec 2940 and Linux problems?  Fast/Wide!
Date: 28 May 1994 16:40:15 -0400

How does the Adaptec 2940 and 2940W handle with Linux?  Problems?

I would also be using a Fujitsu or Quantum drive.  And y problems with 
those or with the Adpatec in conjunction with those?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 and Linux problems?  Fast/Wide!
Date: 28 May 1994 21:06:22 GMT

In article <2s8a7f$1hq@bronze.coil.com>,
Brad Block <bradb@bronze.coil.com> wrote:
>How does the Adaptec 2940 and 2940W handle with Linux?  

It doesn't.

The Adaptec 2940 uses an Adaptec AIC-7770 chip, which is not 
currently supported.  Scott doesn't expect to have the AIC-7770 driver
done until the end of summer, so getting one to run Linux might not 
be the best idea.

Other PCI boards include the Buslogic 946 and NCR53c810 based 
boards.  

The Buslogic 946 works for some people, has intermittent errors
for others, and won't let Linux boot for others.  So, you probably 
don't want one of those either.

The NCR53c810 is currently unsupported, since I'm still working on 
debugging the driver and therefore release date is unknown.  With
memorial day weekend free, maybe I'll be able to fix it, maybe not.
-- 
Drew Eckhardt drew@Colorado.EDU
1970 Landcruiser FJ40 w/350 Chevy power
1982 Yamaha XV920J Virago

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Subject: Re: 4 MB too little for linux
From: dholland@husc7.harvard.edu (David Holland)
Date: 28 May 94 16:33:05


ed.duomo@lambada.oit.unc.edu's message of 28 May 94 18:00:29 GMT said:

 > I installed the latest Slackware on my 4 MB system. The installation
 > is pretty standard (the installation process, BTW, was a breeze, and I
 > was impressed by the quality of the installation program). Now with
 > kermit in one VT and nothing but the shell in another, linux thrashes
 > pretty badly even for the simplest of commands, e.g. ls. If I try to
 > login on a 3rd VT, it takes about 2-3 minutes till I'm dropped to the
 > shell.
 >
 > Could this be improved upon? I thought linux was supposd to run
 > smoothly with 4 MB. 

It does. Right now, I have four VTs open, one running telnet and one
running emacs, the other two in shells (1 tcsh and 1 bash). No more
than a second of delay, at most, running ls. Logging in a fifth VT
took four seconds. 

I have 4 MB and a 386SX, kernel 1.1.16 (which was updated from 1.0
yesterday.) 

Do you have something running wasting memory? Do you have no swap
space at all? 

--
   - David A. Holland          | "The right to be heard does not automatically
     dholland@husc.harvard.edu |  include the right to be taken seriously."

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From: bass@cais.com (bass@cais.com)
Subject: Pentium 60/Linux1.0/PCI/EISA Blazes !!
Date: 28 May 1994 21:34:37 GMT


Finally got the subject system from SWT.  A little late, but
what the heck.  Can't really enjoy it for 3 weeks cause I'm
heading to Germany.

As a newbie to Linux, but a old hand on HP-UX, Suns, DECs, and other
commercial UNIXes, so far so good.  Fired up the new Pentium60 with
ATI PRI graphics card and SCSI II EISA controller (16 MB ram and
256 c.)

So far, (having network problems) but it blazes with only one
login and a few shells partying.  

Wow !!

Tim Bass

http://silkroad.com/silkroad.html


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From: bass@cais.com (bass@cais.com)
Subject: Re: Pentium 60/Linux1.0/PCI/EISA Blazes !!
Date: 28 May 1994 21:37:52 GMT

bass@cais.com (bass@cais.com) wrote:

: Finally got the subject system from SWT.  A little late, but
: what the heck.  Can't really enjoy it for 3 weeks cause I'm
: heading to Germany.

: As a newbie to Linux, but a old hand on HP-UX, Suns, DECs, and other
: commercial UNIXes, so far so good.  Fired up the new Pentium60 with
: ATI PRI graphics card and SCSI II EISA controller (16 MB ram and
: 256 c.)

: So far, (having network problems) but it blazes with only one
: login and a few shells partying.  

: Wow !!

: Tim Bass

: http://silkroad.com/silkroad.html

Forgot to mention.... the Chinon SCSI CDROM blazes too !!

Tim


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From: ethomson@amazon.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Ed Thomson)
Subject: Re: 4 MB too little for linux
Date: 28 May 1994 21:46:16 GMT

David Holland (dholland@husc7.harvard.edu) wrote:

> It does. Right now, I have four VTs open, one running telnet and one
> running emacs, the other two in shells (1 tcsh and 1 bash). No more
> than a second of delay, at most, running ls. Logging in a fifth VT
> took four seconds. 

Pardon my ignorance, but how does one open up virtual ttys?  (never bothered
to learn this).  Or, point me in the direction of the FM...thanks...

--
Ed Thomson - ethomson@ncsa.uiuc.edu                    

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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: New Linux BBS under developement! NEED YOUR HELP!
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 21:46:56 GMT

Followup to:  <davidb.770129176@morgan>
By author:    davidb@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Dave Best)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
>
> 
> 
> Currently there is a NEW Linux BBS package under developement. Its in
> its primary stages and we need your ideas!  Our goal is to release the first
> version by September.  The BBS will be developed under the terms of the GNU 
> public license.
> 
> Please send any ideas/suggestions or options you would like to see in
> this BBS package to 
> 
>       davidb@cs.mun.ca    OR    garyp@cs.mun.ca
> 

Here are a few things I'd like to see in a Linux BBS:

* IBM PC/ANSI support, preferably with PC <-> Latin1 translation
* All configuration files are editable text files (I hate the
  mandatory full-screen configuration editors that come with DOS BBS's)
* Multi-session support over a single dialup, something like term but
  not necessarily as full-featured (term, IMHO, has grown much too
  large for its mission... many things you can do under term now
  really should make you *want* to run SLIP).  I have considered
  developing a multi-session capable DOS terminal program for this
  part myself.  [This would of course be implemented so that each
  session allocates a separate pseudo-tty]
* Using standard news spools; news spool access via NNTP (so it
  can be on a different machine); this automatically solves the
  interaction with other systems portion (a single INN setup
  can feed FidoNet via ifmail, UUCP via Taylor-uucp and IP connected
  hosts directly).
* Ability to restrict subscription and/or posting to certain newsgroup
  based on access level or access flags.
* Threaded news reading
* Ability to download from a readonly filesystem [consider a CD-ROM or
  an NFS filesystem]
* Ability to create a local copy of a file before download, or
  alternatively some form of read-ahead [consider a long-distance NFS
  mount, such as wuarchive, or a slow CD-ROM that would start trashing
  if it was called upon to repeately seek between several files
  because two users is downloading at the same time]
* Using a standard MTA (sendmail or smail) for all mail handling.
* [Not too important] "Snoop mode": shadowing a user's actions on a Linux
  virtual console.  This might not be possible to practically combine
  with multi-session capability.


Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance to your project.

        /hpa
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Crossposted-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: sandyz@netcom.com (Sanford Zelkovitz)
Subject: Re: Looking for Linux BBS Software
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 22:01:02 GMT

In article <1994May27.090153.8060@via.sni.de> renee@via.sni.de (Renee Teunissen(00340870725)) writes:
>Sanford Zelkovitz (sandyz@netcom.com) wrote:
>
>: You can call my system at 714-821-9671 and download the source code for
>: XBBS. BTW, there are sites running XBBS under Lynix.
>
>And is there another way of getting the xbbs source?
>(ftp-mail? uuencoded email ?)
>

******************************************************************************


As soon as this CONFOUNDED netcom sets up my SLIP account ( as was promised
when I signed up ) it will be.



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From: johnsonm@merengue.oit.unc.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Address of Linux Journals ?
Date: 28 May 1994 22:22:10 GMT


In article <davidherCqJ0v1.GG8@netcom.com> davidher@netcom.com (david her) writes:

   Could anyone tell me how to contact Linux  journals ? Thanks in advance.

Depends on what you want to do.  To subscribe, send mail to
subs@ssc.com.  If you are interested in writing something, send it to
me (as ljeditor@sunsite.unc.edu, so that I can sort it out of my other
mail).

If you have more questions, here is the Linux Journal FAQ.  It
includes just about all the information you could need for getting in
touch with us.

+--------------+ 
|    Linux     |    P.O. Box 85867 * Seattle, WA * 98145-1867 * USA
|   Journal    |  (206)524-8338 * fax: (206)526-0803 * linux@fylz.com
+--------------+

                        LINUX JOURNAL FAQ
                             4/23/94

This  FAQ  contains information about Linux Journal, the magazine
covering the Linux Community. Topics covered are:
  o general/history
  o content
  o subscriptions
  o writing for LJ
  o advertising in LJ
  o Linux-related product releases
  o consultant's directory
  o distributors/retailers
  o misc
  o if all else fails ...

General/History

We see our mission as serving the Linux community  while  working
to  promote  the  use of Linux. Although most of our initial sub-
scribers have come from the Internet we expect half of our future
readers  will  find  LJ as their initial source of information on
Linux. This means that LJ can provide a way for  people  to  find
hardware,  software  and help in getting themselves going. We see
this as a benefit to the Linux newsgroups  by  reducing  "newbie"
questions as well to our advertisers by providing them with a new
way to reach potential new users.

The idea for producing Linux Journal arose in early 1993. In late
February, 1994 we mailed our first issue. The magazine received a
very positive response - both on the Internet and elsewhere.  Is-
sue #2 was mailed in mid-April.

The first two issues were produced by ACC Corp in Connecticut and
by Linux Journal staff in Seattle. There were problems in produc-
ing  the magazine between the two locations which has resulted in
the need for a major change for Linux Journal.

SSC, publisher of Unix and  C  pocket  references  for  over  ten
years,  is taking over responsibility for magazine production and
subscription fulfillment from ACC Corp. This  moves  these  func-
tions  to  Seattle  where  our  advertising office is located and
draws on SSC's experience in publishing to get the  magazine  out
on time.

Phil  Hughes  takes  over  the  position of publisher, having the
overall responsibility for the complete  publication.  Phil's  11
years  in publishing and 15 years of experience with Unix will be
applied to ensure the quality of the publication as well  as  its
promotion.

Michael  K. Johnson assumes the role of editor. Already being ac-
tive in the  Linux  community  and  a  Linux  Journal  columnist,
Michael  became  the logical choice. He founded the original "man
project", which was the forerunner of the current "Linux Documen-
tation  Project",  and maintains a few Linux packages, as well as
the "Linux Kernel Hackers' Guide".

Because of production delays on what was to be the April issue at
ACC Corp, it has become the April/May issue. Issue #3 will be the
June/July issue to allow us to complete the transition and estab-
lish  the  necessary  lead time for newsstand distribution. After
that we will resume monthly publication. (Subscribers will  still
receive the number of issues they signed up for.)

One  change  will  be on the cover of the magazine. Starting with
issue #3 we will be going to a glossy cover to increase newsstand
appeal and make the publication less susceptible to damage in the
mail.

Content

Each issue of Linux Journal offers articles that appeal  to  new-
comers  as  well as serious technical articles for long-time Unix
users. Although LJ is Linux-specific, many of the articles are of
interest  to Unix users and other users of freely redistributable
software.

Regular columns include:
  o Interviews with prominent Linux personalities
  o Linux Programming Tips by Michael Johnson
  o What's GNU? by Arnold Robbins
  o Cooking with Linux by Matt Welsh
  o The Debian Distribution by Ian Murdock
  o New Products
  o Letters to the Editor
  o Book and Product Reviews
  o Linux Counter
  o Linux Consultant's Directory

Features that have appeared in issues #1 and #2 include:
  o Comparison of Linux, Windows NT and OS/2 by Bernie Thompson
  o Onyx: a copylefted 4GL by Michael Kraehe
  o Icmake: a new make tool by Frank Brokken and Karel Kubat
  o Linux and Hams: what hams involved in Linux have to say
  o Hints & Tips for Optimizing Linux Disk Usage by Jeff Tranter
  o Linux Systems Administration by Mark Komarinski
  o Linux Journal Survey Results
  o Linux Around the World
  o The Linux File System Standard by Daniel Quinlan
  o Linux Distributions
  o Wine Status

Advertisers include:
  o Algorithms Corporation
  o Amtec Engineering, Inc.
  o Basmark
  o Fintronic
  o FYL
  o InfoMagic
  o Prime Time Freeware
  o PromoX Systems
  o Sequoia International, Inc.
  o Signum Support
  o SSC
  o Trans-Ameritech
  o Usenix
  o Windsor Technologies
  o Yggdrasil

Subscriptions

Subscriptions are available internationally through SSC directly.
They  are also available in specific regions through our interna-
tional distributors. Magazines are mailed internationally through
a "surface air lift" service which delivers the magazines quickly
to the countries of destination where local mail will be  handled
by surface delivery.

Subscription rates are as follows:
    $19/year U.S., $24/year Canada, $29/year Foreign
    $34/2 years U.S., $44/2 years Canada, $49/2 years Foreign

    Linux Journal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867
    FAX: +1 206 527-2806, Phone: +1 206 527-3385
    E-mail: subs@ssc.com
At  this  address  we  can accept payment by checks in U.S. funds
drawn on a U.S. bank, American Express, Visa and MasterCard.

Writing for Linux Journal

Articles in Linux Journal need to cover the range from "how do  I
get started" to kernel hacking. We intend to try to strike a bal-
ance so the magazine will be accessible to the newcomer  and  yet
continue  to contain useful information to long-term Linux users.

Also, in order to legitimize Linux to many business  unix  users,
we  need to offer articles on commercial uses for Linux. They can
be in the form of documenting a place/job where  Linux  is  being
used  commercially,  a  technical article on the development of a
commercial application or a review of a commercial product.

If you are considering writing for LJ or have a lead to a commer-
cial  use, contact our editor, Michael Johnson. He can be reached
via e-mail at ljeditor@sunsite.unc.edu.

Advertising in LJ

Linux Journal is supported by a combination of  subscription  and
advertising  revenue.  Rates  are  competitive  for the number of
readers we reach and our specific  target  audience  matches  the
needs of those who have products targeted to the Linux market.

We currently only offer display advertising. Future plans include
classified advertising and a card deck. If  you  are  interested,
request a media kit and rate card.

Our advertising manager is:
    Joanne Wagner, Linux Journal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867
    FAX: +1 206 526-0803, Phone: +1 206 524-8338
    E-mail: joanne@fylz.com

Linux-related Product Releases

If  you  have  a  new product that you feel is of interest to the
Linux community, send us a press release. We have a  regular  new
products column and will publish information on the most relevant
products.

We also have a review team and may  be  interested  in  reviewing
specific  products. If you would be willing to make a review copy
of a product available, please let us know.

Send new product information to:
    New Products, Linux Journal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867
    FAX: +1 206 526-0803, Phone: +1 206 524-8338
    E-mail: newprod@fylz.com

Consultant's Directory

We maintain a directory of consultants that work with Linux.  The
directory  is  published  periodically in Linux Journal. Listings
are currently free. To be listed, send your  name,  company,  ad-
dress, phone and e-mail and/or fax contact information along with
a brief description of what you work on to:
    Consultant Directory, Linux Journal, P.O. Box 85867, Seattle, WA 98145-1867
    FAX: +1 206 526-0803, Phone: +1 206 524-8338
    E-mail: joanne@fylz.com

Distributors/Retailers

We are in the process of setting up newsstand distribution of LJ.
Computer  Literacy Bookstores carry the magazine and we expect to
get distribution to many other stores in the next few months.

If you are aware of a store that should carry LJ you can  suggest
they  contact SSC at (206) 527-3385 about reselling or send us e-
mail at subs@ssc.com with their contact information.

Misc

Q: Is LJ available Electronically?
A: Not yet. Once we have the paper copy under control we plan  to
work on this. It requires contract arrangements with both authors
and advertisers before we can do it.

Q: Can information printed in LJ be reprinted?
A: Authors may use the material with the only  restriction  being
that if they use it immediately they include the phrase "reprint-
ed with permission of Linux Journal". Other people wishing to use
material  should contact LJ.  Permission is generally granted ex-
cept where restricted by author or other prior copyright.

If All Else Fails ...

If your question isn't  answered  here,  send  e-mail  to  ljedi-
tor@sunsite.unc.edu.   We  will send a e-mail response and, if it
is a common question we will add it to this  FAQ.  If  you  don't
have  e-mail,  you  can  fax  questions to (206) 526-0803 or call
(206) 524-8338.

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