Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #183
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Sat, 28 May 94 11:13:08 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #183, Volume #2                Sat, 28 May 94 11:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Mosaic bug?? (Brad Pitzel)
  Re: who wants POV for Linux ??? (Andreas Thomasch)
  Re: Is there a Linux 'mailtool'? (Andreas Thomasch)
  Linux Journal - Europe (Linux Journal Desk)
  New Linux BBS under developement! NEED YOUR HELP! (Dave Best)
  Is there a way to compile kernel for Pentium? (Brad Block)
  What is a good SCSI CD-ROM drive? (Brad Block)
  Re: Cut & Paste on VTs? (Patrick Reijnen)
  Re: TERM and local FTP (Patrick Reijnen)
  Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux? (william.c.brown)
  Re: LSM: RELEASE!! 20MAY94 (Jeff Kopmanis)
  Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux? (william.c.brown)
  Re: find MOSAIC, find FSSTND (Daniel Quinlan)
  Re: AHA-1542CF+QUANTUM L525S (Grant Edwards)
  xmcd problem on linux (Sekhar Chandra)
  Re: Linux on Leading Edge? (Frohwalt Egerer)
  Quantum drives and Linux? (Brad Block)

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From: pitzel@cs.sfu.ca (Brad Pitzel)
Subject: Re: Mosaic bug??
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 08:45:39 GMT

In article <2s66ko$so1@Mercury.mcs.com> darus@MCS.COM (Jim Wygralak) writes:
>I've encountered what seems to be a bug in Mosaic 2.4 for Linux.
>
>If I click "too fast"* on the scroll bar, mosaic locks up and I have to
>do a hard reset to re-gain controll. It doesnt actually crash the system,
>(xclock keeps running, and the mouse cursor still moves) but I cant
>select any other windows, I cant switch VC's, and ctrl-alt-Backspace doesnt
>do anything.
>
>Has anyone else encountered this, or more importantly FIXED it.
>
[snip]

You don't happen to use olwm or olvwm as your window manager do you? I had that
problem with ANY program under those window managers. I've never encountered the
problem since I switched to fvwm many moons ago.

--brad
pitzel@cs.sfu.ca


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: mcx@x.sax.de (Andreas Thomasch)
Subject: Re: who wants POV for Linux ???
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 16:30:44 GMT

POVRAY account (povray@uniwa.uwa.edu.au) asked:

> How many readers would be interested in an officially-compiled and
> supported version of POVRAY, with X-Windows support, for LINUX ???

I'm interested, too. May be you can use the svgalib for showing
the rendered picture and also make some speed optimizations. BTW,
there's already an unofficial version of POV for Linux on the net,
compiled by Jeff Epler (jepler@herbie.unl.edu, jepler@nyx.cs.du.edu).
His version supports showing the picture by svgalib, so may be it
can be useful for you to contact him.
-- 
========== Mc X was here! =================== mcx@x.sax.de ===========
    Make it as simple as possible but not simpler.   (A. Einstein)    
================ (PGP public key available by request.) ==============

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From: mcx@x.sax.de (Andreas Thomasch)
Subject: Re: Is there a Linux 'mailtool'?
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 18:16:06 GMT

Schmid (sg088sc@uni-duisburg.de) wrote:

> I'm looking for an X11-mail frontend for Linux. Currently I'm
> using 'pine' in an xterm but rather would use something
> like the Sparc-'mailtool'.
>
> If there is such a tool available somewhere, please tell me
> (and where to obtain it).

Yes, there is. It's called Xmailtool and you can get it from
sunsite.unc.edu:

/pub/Linux/X11/xapps/xmailtool-4-linux.tgz (28300 bytes).

Bye,
        Andreas.
-- 
========== Mc X was here! =================== mcx@x.sax.de ===========
    Make it as simple as possible but not simpler.   (A. Einstein)    
================ (PGP public key available by request.) ==============

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From: lj-desk@lasermoon.co.uk (Linux Journal Desk)
Subject: Linux Journal - Europe
Date: Sat, 28 May 94 13:29:05 GMT
Reply-To: B.



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From: davidb@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Dave Best)
Subject: New Linux BBS under developement! NEED YOUR HELP!
Date: 28 May 94 12:46:16 GMT



                Currently there is a NEW Linux BBS package under developement. Its in
        its primary stages and we need your ideas!  Our goal is to release the first
        version by September.  The BBS will be developed under the terms of the GNU 
        public license.

                Please send any ideas/suggestions or options you would like to see in
        this BBS package to 

                        davidb@cs.mun.ca    OR    garyp@cs.mun.ca


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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Subject: Is there a way to compile kernel for Pentium?
Date: 27 May 1994 18:22:56 -0400


Is there a compiler that can compile the Linux kernel and other software 
for optimization on a P54C (Pentium 90/100MHz)?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Subject: What is a good SCSI CD-ROM drive?
Date: 27 May 1994 18:29:56 -0400

What is a good SCSI CD-ROM drive?

- Must work reliably with Linux
- Must be double-speed or greater
- Can be SCSI-2
- Must not cost tooo much


- Thanks!

-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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From: patrickr@sci.kun.nl (Patrick Reijnen)
Subject: Re: Cut & Paste on VTs?
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 12:54:11 GMT

In <2s4tvq$9dg@hubcap.clemson.edu> ablumer@eng.clemson.edu (AB) writes:


>Is there a cut and paste on/between virtual terminals?
>If so, how is it done?

Yep, there is: it is called 'selection' and you can find it (for example) on sunsite. One thing is that you have to recompile the kernel for it if you have not configured the kernel option for cut and paste on VT's already.

>Thanks,
>ablumer@eng.clemson.edu

Patrick Reijnen

--
*******************************************************************
* Patrick Reijnen                                                 *
* Department of Computer Science, Catholic University of Nijmegen * 
* Email: patrickr@{sci,cs}.kun.nl    (Make your choice)           *

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From: patrickr@sci.kun.nl (Patrick Reijnen)
Subject: Re: TERM and local FTP
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 12:58:03 GMT

In <1994May27.184215.28448@mercury.ncat.edu> hkennedy@mercury.ncat.edu writes:

>Hi,

>I need help on setting up TERM with ncftp for local use. 

>When I start ncftp I get the error 

>termncftp: ftp/tcp: unknown service

Do you use the patched version of ncftp and do you have the correct settings in your /etc/inetd.conf?

>Thanks

>Helen

Patrick Reijnen

--
*******************************************************************
* Patrick Reijnen                                                 *
* Department of Computer Science, Catholic University of Nijmegen * 
* Email: patrickr@{sci,cs}.kun.nl    (Make your choice)           *

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From: corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.c.brown)
Subject: Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux?
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 13:16:32 GMT

In article <1994May25.174733.20407@escape.widomaker.com>, shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (C. S. Hendrix) writes:
> William Henning (bhenning@bhami.wimsey.com) wrote:
>  >    This takes "4" seconds on my Sparc II and "22" seconds on my
> : >   P5/60. Now I have not compiled this code optimized for the P5
> : >   yet, so maybe the story will change when I do compile it for
> : >   the P5.
> 
> : Funny. It takes 4 seconds on my 486DX50... Please note you are allocating an
> : array with 1e6 elements but looping only 1e5 times. Is this deliberate?
> 
> It took 4.8 seconds on my AMD 486DX/40...

        OK, OK.... All the show offs with their 486DX50's made me 
        consider what the HELL was going on with my P5. Well to make
        a long story short, If I use the correct compile time options
        on my SVR4.2 (USL) compiler,

        cc -Kno_ieee -Kinline -Kpentium etc...

        I can reduce the 22 second run time down to "1" second. Thats
        right "1" second. Now I feel better.

        Just goes to show ya what RTFM means.....

        I also recompiled my dhrystone and whetstone benchmarking
        programs with the correct options and got significantly
        better figures.

        BTW these figures were generated on a UnixWare box using the
        stock UnixWare X server.

> 
> : >   BTW, here are the benchmarks for my P5
> : >
> : >   Dhrystones/second       90909
> : >   Whetstones/second       25000000
> : >   iostones/second         400000          /* SCSI */
> : >   xStones                 103196          /* Diamond Stealth 24 */
> 
> I get 80K xstones on my OEM S3 card... $90... and I didn't feel guilty
> about buying it...  :-)
> 
> : -- 
> : ----
> :   
> : bhenning@bhami.wimsey.com   - Linux & OS/2 user at home, OS/2 developer at work
> -- 
> csh
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (UUCP)     | Amd486/40 Linux system
> shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Internet)          | Christopher Newport University



        Feeling much better now. --Corey


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From: jeffk@garnet.msen.com (Jeff Kopmanis)
Subject: Re: LSM: RELEASE!! 20MAY94
Date: 27 May 1994 22:42:39 GMT

I got quite a few messages from Linux newbies asking "What IS the LSM???".
Well, here's a short synopsis that appears in the header of the template
file.  You can find LSM stuff in the following places: (for sure)

  sunsite.unc.edu: /pub/Linux/docs
  tsx-11.mit.edu:  /pub/linux/docs

Just a quickie...I forgot to put a chuck of entries in the 20May94 version,
so there should be a new version coming up soon.  Probably in the beginning
of June.

-Jeff. :)

================
LSM Synopsis:

The LSM is a directory of information about each of the software packages
available via FTP for the Linux operating system.  It is meant to be a public
information resource.  All entries have been entered by volunteers all over
the world via email using the template below.  New versions will appear
first on sunsite.unc.edu and will be announced in the newsgroup
comp.os.linux.announce .  Discussions pertaining to the LSM will be held in
the newsgroup comp.os.linux.help .  Any questions or comments can be entered
in comp.os.linux.help or sent to me directly at jeffk@msen.com .
================

--
Jeff Kopmanis       (Ann Arbor, Michigan)   |  email:  jeffk@msen.com
Organizer of the Linux Software Map (LSM)   |  phone: (313) 393-4784 (work)
"So shines a good deed in a weary world."  -Willy Wonka

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From: corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.c.brown)
Subject: Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux?
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 13:31:00 GMT

In article <1994May27.195612.10244@resonex.com>, zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna) writes:
> In article <Cq7IBz.8Ds@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>,
> william.c.brown <corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> wrote:
> [...]
> >     While I'll agree that a 486/66 or 586/[60,66] will out perform
> >     a Sparc II in some tests, but the Sparc still walks away from
> >     Intel in terms of floating point performance.
> >
> >     Note the following code:
> >
> >     #include <stdio.h>
> >     #include <math.h>
> >     #include <time.h>
> >     main()
> >     {
> >             double  x,y[1000000];
> >             int     i;
> >             time_t  t;
> >     
> >             time(&t);
> >             for (i=0;i<100000;i++)
> >                     {
> >                     x=11.0+(33.5*i)*(33.5*i);
> >                     y[i]=(sin(3.1*i)+cos(5.1*i))*sqrt(x+exp(3.14*log(x+i)));
> >                     }
> >             printf("time=%d\n",time(0)-t);
> >     }
> >
> >     This takes "4" seconds on my Sparc II and "22" seconds on my
> >     P5/60. Now I have not compiled this code optimized for the P5
> >     yet, so maybe the story will change when I do compile it for
> >     the P5.
> 
> You are doing something wrong. I have run your *test* on my P5-66 and the
> result is in most cases "time=1" (but on somehow more busy system I have seen
> the "time=2").
> 
>       Zenon



        Turns out it was a compile time option problem on my part.
        your time of "time=1" agrees with the "time=1" that I am
        now getting too...

        My compiler is SVR42 (USL) standard "C" compiler. Default
        optimization does not short circuit the standard math(3)
        functions. i.e. it still calculates values instead of 
        table look ups. With the correct options it really flys.


        --Corey


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From: quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu (Daniel Quinlan)
Subject: Re: find MOSAIC, find FSSTND
Date: 27 May 1994 22:59:05 GMT
Reply-To: quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu


zachary brown <zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu> writes:

> I would like to find the linux file system standard. I can't find it
> in the usual places.

Look on tsx-11.mit.edu in /pub/linux/docs/linux-standards.  (Seems
like one of the usual places... :-)

>  Is it still being maintained?

I'm not sure if "maintained" is the right word, but the work on a
significantly improved second release is almost completed.

Dan

--
Daniel Quinlan  <quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu>

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From: grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: AHA-1542CF+QUANTUM L525S
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 17:43:52 GMT

Wei-Jou Chen (jou@pdlc.ep.nctu.edu.tw) wrote:

:    How to let AHA-1542CF + QUANTUM L525S work ? I always got the following
: warn message.

: -------------------------------------
:  SCSI ID#0    QUANTUM L525S   ( after a while it shows) Device connect
: but not ready
:  BIOS not INSTALL!  NO INT 13h device
: -------------------------------------
: How to solve it ? I have no manual of QUANTUM disk.

I run an AHA-1542CF and a Quantum LP525S and all I had to do was
connect the cables and turn the power on.  Since the device is
recognized, you must have things connected more-or-less correctly.

I would suggest running the Adaptec setup/config/selftest ROM software
by hitting ctrl-A (or whatever) during the power up sequence.

--
Grant Edwards                                 |Yow!  Mary Tyler Moore's
Rosemount Inc.                                |SEVENTH HUSBAND is wearing my
                                              |DACRON TANK TOP in a cheap
grante@rosemount.com                          |hotel in HONOLULU!

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From: chandra@marigold.cs.odu.edu (Sekhar Chandra)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: xmcd problem on linux
Date: 27 May 1994 23:20:53 GMT


I have installed xmcd on my 486 running
linux1.0. I have X11R5 and Motif 1.2.3.
I am able to invoke xmcd but if insert a
CD into the Toshiba 3401, my screen is locking
up. The CDROM is recognized correctly at the 
boot time by Adaptec1520. I have soundblaster
16 SCSI-2 with ASP soundcard.

Thanks for the help

chandra@marigold.cs.odu.edu

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From: froh@devnull.adsp.sub.org (Frohwalt Egerer)
Subject: Re: Linux on Leading Edge?
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 09:50:51 GMT

ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) writes:

>In article <2qvrnb$8f0@lynx.dac.neu.edu> zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown) writes:
>>
>>Hi. Has anyone had success with linux on a Leading Edge computer? The
>>one I'm thinking of is a model #2700   486/66 with 4MB ram with no cache
>                                                                 ^^^^^^^^
>>memory. Successes, failures, problems welcome.
>>
>>zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu
>>
>>lovitlovitsince0.99pl15
>>Linux, the internet, libraries and fire departments are good.

>DON'T BUY A MACHINE WITH NO CACHE! ESPECIALLY FOR USE WITH LINUX!
>IT WILL KILL YOUR PERFORMANCE!!!!!

And once again somebody proves the fact he doesn't know what he is
talking about, when he is using all capital letters. There are boards
which have a nice CPU<->memory interface which does not use any second
level cache but performs very well. The performance under DOS is just
slightly lower as when using a board with 256k cache. Knowing the fact
that cached boards get slower when running multitasking/multiuser OSes
(they just use more memory - remember that 1/4 of your DOS memory fits
into the cache) the cacheless board might be an interesting
alternative when running Unix clones.

Froh

P.S.: Just check out your dealer isn't selling a normal board to you, just
without cache RAMS.



-- 
Frohwalt Egerer   Drausnickstr. 36   91052 Erlangen   Germany      ///   Use
froh@devnull.franken.de     (preferred)                           ///  Linux
ftegerer@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de                       \\\///  
                                                               \XX/  ECG 210
That's what I like about Windows ... it's reliable ... I can rely on it
to hang least once a day or more.             -- Dan A. Newcombe


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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Subject: Quantum drives and Linux?
Date: 28 May 1994 11:08:20 -0400

Have there been any reported problems with the Quantum 1800megs drive in 
conjunction with the ADaptec 1542CF?

- Thanks!
-- 
----|Brad Block|----                            ----|Sysoop: Wave 2 BBS|----
     AKA: MaKi                                          614\766-1258
                                                    bradb@bronze.coil.com


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