Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #177
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Fri, 27 May 94 03:13:19 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #177, Volume #2                Fri, 27 May 94 03:13:19 EDT

Contents:
  Oberon for Linux ? (Ruediger Berlich)
  Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor (lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64))
  Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor (lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64))
  Re: Mitsumi FX001D vs Sony CDU33A? (Sluijtman)
  Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (NEW ANSWER) (Michael L. VanLoon)
  Re: CERT Advisory ??? WHAT! It doesn't work??? (Alan Cox)
  [Q] 3COM Etherlink III or SMC Ultra Plus? (MUI-KIM NG)
  Re: Why Linux? (Bill Karwin (Contractor-MM))
  Need help with ALWAYS SCSI ((me))
  Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (NEW ANSWER) (Karl Denninger)
  Re: Alpha testers for BETA on Linux (Jacob Seligmann)
  Re: Xconfig for Diamond Speedstar Pro? (Sven Goldt)
  Re: blah - kmem ps utils break under 1.1.13 (Rene COUGNENC)
  Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again) (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: NeXT like voice mail ? (Scott A. Laird)
  Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi C (Ivan)
  Re: LWPS (was Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again)) (Byron A Jeff)
  AHA-1542CF+QUANTUM L525S (Wei-Jou Chen)
  Re: What is "DIR_COLORS" ? (John Kinsella)
  Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (NEW ANSWER) (Willem Jan Withagen)

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From: ruediger@tau.ep1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Ruediger Berlich)
Subject: Oberon for Linux ?
Date: 26 May 1994 19:58:08 GMT

Hi alltogether,
I just discovered the Oberon System for AIX 3.2.5
which runs simply as a big X-Window which can be resized etc.
I wonder if this already has been ported to Linux.
Current version is 4.0 .

Bye, Ruediger
[ruediger@tau.ep1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de]


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From: lilo@slip-13-11 (lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64))
Subject: Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor
Date: 26 May 1994 19:37:55 GMT

On 24 May 1994 18:32:12 GMT, Tim Smith (tzs@u.washington.edu) wrote:

> b) Novell is evil because they might be better than you at programming!?

If Novell could put out a better Unix than Linux, I'd buy it.  :)


lilo

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From: lilo@slip-13-11 (lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64))
Subject: Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor
Date: 26 May 1994 19:43:05 GMT

On Tue, 24 May 1994 23:28:21 GMT, Matt Welsh (mdw@cs.cornell.edu) wrote:

> I never said that Novell was "evil" or anything of the kind. And it 
> remains to be seen if Novell's professional programmers are better than
> the loose-knit volunteers of the Linux world. (For the humour impaired:
> That's a joke.) The point is that the status quo of the Linux community
> should be preserved, at least to some extent. If Novell is able to put
> a team of full-time professional programmers to work on Linux, they can
> essentially make the work of the many volunteers obsolete. Linux would 
> become Novell's free operating system. Is that something that you want 
> to see? 

How can a set of "professional" programmers (I'll try not to laugh too
loudly, I was in the industry for over 13 years working with
"professionals") make the work of volunteers obsolete?  Most of the Linux
distributions consists of GNU-licensed code.  If Novell wants to modify it
and make the results freely available, they'll advance the state of Linux. 
But, professional software development staffs are rarely as responsive to
user needs as are amateurs (i.e., people who program because they *enjoy*
putting out useful, efficient products).  And you're more likely to find an
amateur who is willing to program in the feature of your choice, and the
amateurs running the mainline development project are more likely to want to
clean up the code and incorporate it in a mainline release than are
"professionals...."

Long live amateurism.  (And it will! :)


lilo

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From: sluytman@kub.nl (Sluijtman)
Subject: Re: Mitsumi FX001D vs Sony CDU33A?
Date: 26 May 1994 16:08:41 GMT
Reply-To: R.W.Sluijtman@kub.nl


In article <1994May25.144615.60415@ans.net>, dans@ans.net (Dan Simoes) writes:

|> I'm finally ready to get a CDROM, and based on price I'm between the
|> above 2 models.  Both are proprietary, non-SCSI.
|> 
|> Questions:
|> 
|> - I assume both are supported in Linux, at least the later kernels.
|>   Can someone confirm this?

The Mitsumi FX100D works fine,

|> 
|> - If you are using either of these, how is the performance UNDER
|>   LINUX, and what do you use it for besides install?

it is a lot slower than a harddisk, but I use it often, mostly for reading
documentation ( on the Trans Americatech Linux cd ), and simply for easy
browsing through the enormous amount of software, so speed is not really the
most important issue for me.

Happy linuxing

R. Sluijtman

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From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (NEW ANSWER)
Date: 27 May 94 02:26:18 GMT

In <JKH.94May27001218@nx.ilo.dec.com> jkh@nx.ilo.dec.com (Jordan Hubbard) writes:

>In article <2s2j80$1go@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl> wjw@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) writes:

>>  Because this starts me wonder which kernel I should use with my 445S REV D
>>  board under FreeBSD. I'm using the AHA kernel which works great for 16Mb
>>  But I'm waiting for the 3.37 Eprom to go to 32MB. Should I use the BT 
>>  kernels for FreeBSD

>You can use the Bt driver *now* for your Rev D board with 16MB - I do

I guess it just escapes me why someone would even *want* to use the
non-BusLogic driver with a BusLogic board, when a BusLogic-specific
driver exists!  The reasoning fails to make its way through my
brain...

You have a BusLogic card -- use the BusLogic driver!  How hard is
that?...

>Whether or not the 3.37
>eprom fixes the >16MB DMA problem is, however, still an open question
>for ANY of the operating systems.  Buslogic claims success with 3.37,
>yet I've now seen more than a few reports that tend to indicate that
>they did NOT fix the problem.

I've also heard that the fault is not with the SCSI controller, but
with the VLB circuitry.  Some VLB slots do bus-mastering rather quite
poorly.  Maybe it's your motherboard that's causing you so much pain.
Have you tried moving it to a different slot?  It may be that you have
one master slot and all the rest are slaves (or maybe no true
mastering slot at all... ack :-P ).

>                                       Jordan

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: CERT Advisory ??? WHAT! It doesn't work???
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 19:21:41 GMT

In article <2s2dpt$5ou@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> michael@hal6000.thp.Uni-Duisburg.DE (Michael Staats) writes:
>The advisories on Linux don't work because they are based on the wrong
>assumption that rlogin, telnet etc. are the source of security hole.
Actually you can argue it either way - the point of the fixes was to plug
the big problem - attack from the network. 

>ftp.thp.Uni-Duisburg.DE:/pub/binaries/linux/login.gz
>

Or you can get the slackware 1.2.0 login which is fine

Alan


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From: mng@eos.ncsu.edu (MUI-KIM NG)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: [Q] 3COM Etherlink III or SMC Ultra Plus?
Date: 26 May 1994 04:10:59 GMT

Thanks in advance for anyone who is kind enough to ask this post.

I need to a pair of ethernet cards but do not know which of the cards are
better:
   3COM Etherlink II or SMC Ultra Plus?
Does linux has the drivers for both cards?

Thanks
kim

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From: bkarwin@cup.hp.com (Bill Karwin (Contractor-MM))
Subject: Re: Why Linux?
Date: 26 May 1994 16:41:55 GMT

Caesar Wong (caesarw@agora.rdrop.com) wrote:
: What's the main differences between Linux and (free) BSD?

Linux has better support for memory configurations over 16Mb.
FreeBSD does not support non-SCSI CD-ROMs.
FreeBSD seems to support more network controllers.

Perhaps the strongest influence for Linux to be more popular that
FreeBSD is that Linux seems to me to be more widespread; it is on
ftp sites and BBS's all over the place.  It has more availability
than FreeBSD.

-Bill


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From: silly@frappe.ugcs.caltech.edu ((me))
Subject: Need help with ALWAYS SCSI
Date: 26 May 1994 20:27:59 GMT

I've been attempting to start up Linux on a machine with a Conner 
SCSI drive and an Always board.  

I've gotten the Always in2000 driver and reconfigured the kernel so that
it's supported, but when I try to boot the machine with a boot disk for
this new kernel, it fails to detect the disk.

If anyone knows what's up, or what might solve my problems, I'd appreciate
some help.  I've read all of the related HOWTOs, but didn't find anything
beyond how to install the in2000 driver.

Here's some information:

Always Technology Corp. SCSI Host Adapter
SCSI bios version                   VCN: 887-01 Mar 1994

SCSI ID:0 CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 1823

SCSI Adapter uses:        Segment address = 0xC800h - 0xCBFFh
                          I/O address =     0x0110h - 0x011Fh
                          Interrupt line =  15
Floppy controller:        Disabled
> 2 drive support:        Enabled
[end]

Again, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brad Threatt
(silly@ugcs.caltech.edu)


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From: karl@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (NEW ANSWER)
Date: 26 May 1994 22:15:49 -0500

In article <michaelv.770005578@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>,
Michael L. VanLoon <michaelv@iastate.edu> wrote:
>In <JKH.94May27001218@nx.ilo.dec.com> jkh@nx.ilo.dec.com (Jordan Hubbard) writes:
>>Whether or not the 3.37
>>eprom fixes the >16MB DMA problem is, however, still an open question
>>for ANY of the operating systems.  Buslogic claims success with 3.37,
>>yet I've now seen more than a few reports that tend to indicate that
>>they did NOT fix the problem.
>
>I've also heard that the fault is not with the SCSI controller, but
>with the VLB circuitry.  Some VLB slots do bus-mastering rather quite
>poorly.  Maybe it's your motherboard that's causing you so much pain.
>Have you tried moving it to a different slot?  It may be that you have
>one master slot and all the rest are slaves (or maybe no true
>mastering slot at all... ack :-P ).

I run a 445S with BSDI and the beta driver from them, and it is a SMOKING
fast board.  Really nice, it works, and I haven't seen ANY problems with it
whatsoever.  Other than crappy cables (which will screw you immediately as
the board is a SCSI-II FAST implementation) and disks which died on their 
own (unrelated to the adapter).

Highly recommended.  I love mine, and will buy more.  My primary news
server here runs one.  No complaints.

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From: jacobse@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Seligmann)
Subject: Re: Alpha testers for BETA on Linux
Date: 26 May 1994 14:03:48 GMT

Due to an overwhelming amount of response, we have established a new 
mailing address,

   alphatest@mjolner.dk

to be used for correspondence concerning the alpha release of the 
Mjolner BETA Linux System. We kindly request that you contact us at 
this address if you are interested in becoming an alpha tester, 
rather than support@mjolner.dk. [The latter is still available for 
support mail concerning the Mjolner BETA System on all platforms. 
For information on the Mjolner BETA System and the BETA language in 
general, please send mail to info@mjolner.dk.]

Note that it will take some time for us to catch up. All mails will, 
however, be answered as quickly as possible. If you have not heard 
from us within a week, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Thank you for your interest,

Jacob Seligmann
========================================================================
Mjolner Informatics ApS             Phone:   (+45) 86 20 20 00 ext. 2754
Science Park Aarhus                 Direct:  (+45) 86 20 20 11 - 2754
Gustav Wieds Vej 10                 Fax:     (+45) 86 20 12 22
DK-8000 Aarhus C, Denmark           Email:   jacobse@mjolner.dk       
________________________________________________________________________
                             BETA is better                             
========================================================================


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From: goldt@math.tu-berlin.de (Sven Goldt)
Subject: Re: Xconfig for Diamond Speedstar Pro?
Date: 26 May 1994 14:14:00 GMT

DAVID KRAKOSKY (KRAKOSKY@sirius.Esy.COM) wrote:
: for my Diamond Speedstar Pro video board. I have experimented
: with the sample Xconfig file that come with Linux that claims

It comes with Linux ? What ? Officially Diamond cards are
not supported by XFree86.The diamond cards use strange clocks
and so the svga driver can only use 'low' resolutions of
max. 800x600.There is a clock setting prg for diamond
cards which doesn't work.You can just fool the svga driver
by starting linux with 13?x?? mode.

--
*****************************************************************************
*    # THE MOST IMPORTANT FINANCIAL QUESTION IS:  Where is the money ? #    *
*****************************************************************************

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From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)
Subject: Re: blah - kmem ps utils break under 1.1.13
Date: 26 May 1994 12:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: cougnenc@hsc.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave C. S. Hendrix ecrit:

> lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64) (lilo@slip-5-16) wrote:
> : Oh, and there are three of us.  ;)

> Four!  I hate the proc based stuff... long live kmem based ps!

Ok, add me to the list: Five :-)

--
 linux linux linux linux -[ cougnenc@renux.frmug.fr.net ]- linux linux linux 

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From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again)
Date: 26 May 1994 16:34:53 -0400

Since I started this whole mess I figure I'd better comment.

In article <2rt2h4$1fug@ns2.cc.lehigh.edu>,
DAVID L. JOHNSON <dlj0@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU> wrote:
-In article <1994May24.002257.676@escape.widomaker.com>, shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (C. S. Hendrix) writes:
->Dominic Fraser (dominic@pepper.cuug.ab.ca) wrote:
->
->: I don't understand. Have none of you used the AndrewToolKit 'ez' 
->: wordprocessor?. I have used it for 5 months now with great success, my 
->: wife likes, it, I like it, my daughter uses it everyday. It produces 
->: exactly what I expect in a decent wysiwig Wp package and outputs in 
->: postscript, how much more could I ask?
->
-I agree.

Can I run it on a vt-320? Can I run it in an Xterm? Can I run it in a VC?
Also how much of Andrew do you have to carry around for it to function?

->A wordprocessor's screen should reflect what the document will look like
->when PRINTED.  So if after this line the window shows a page break,
->it should occur in that same place when printed.  That doesn't happen
->with ez.  You cannot set margins or control exactly where text will
->appear.
->
-You can too.  You certainly can set margins.

Yes but the main objective is to see what's going on the page. If the
print engine and the display engine don't agree there will be problems.

->Of course, that may not be important to some but I often need to
->have tight control over output and ez will not do that.
->
-For tight control, you need TeX.  Most word processors are not that accurate,
-either.

The one we're proposing will be in terms of mapping what's on the screen to
what's on the page. Even in text mode.

-
->I would think that ez could be modified to handle things differently.
->
-Yes, it can be,
-
->: For me, the discovery of ATK was the end of my mess-dos partition.
->
-Do you have TeX, and a dvi printer engine?  I use eps to print ez doc's;
-it's much better output and somewhat faster.  Just edit your atkprint file.
-
-I think spending a little time figuring out how to set up ez will be a lot
-less hassle than trying to write it over again.  It'll take years to get
-its functionality.

The main concerns still exist:
1) It doesn't have any other display mechanism other that X. Big problem.
2) It's too attached to Andrew. This means baggage.
3) It doesn't currently have a firm reign on text placement.

The LWPS core group has a CMU'er on staff. We've already had a lengthy 
discussion of the shortcomings of ez.

Later,

BAJ
-- 
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Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin
From: lair@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Scott A. Laird)
Subject: Re: NeXT like voice mail ?
Reply-To: lair@midway.uchicago.edu
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 20:30:15 GMT

In article <2s2n9r$j0g@ghost.mimuw.edu.pl>,
Andrzej K. Brandt <andy@eleet.appli.mimuw.edu.pl> wrote:
>: You are talking about MIME, an Internet standard for sending "richer"
>: messages than straight ascii.  You can send graphics, binaries, sounds
>: and others using MIME compatible mailers on many platforms including
>: Linux. 
>
>BTW - could you suggest please some MIME mailers?
>

I personally like exmh.  It's a X front end to MH that works really
well and has a built in MIME editor.  It'll automatically deal with
MIME messages, displaying text in multiple fonts, etc.  It'll play
audio messages, too.  You can get it from parcftp.xerox.com, in
/pub/exmh.  You'll need tk and tcl, they're somewhere on sunsite,
along with MH, it's on sunsite too.  If you can't find anything, send
me mail and I'll try to give better pointers.

Scott



-- 
Scott A. Laird            |  "But this goes to 18,446,744,073,709,551,615"
lair@midway.uchicago.edu  |                - Nigel on his 64-bit computer


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From: ivan@djomolungma.Eng.Sun.COM (Ivan)
Subject: Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi C
Date: 26 May 1994 20:31:21 GMT
Reply-To: ivan@djomolungma.Eng.Sun.COM

In article if@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu, lilo@slip-13-11 (lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64)) writes:

>How can a set of "professional" programmers (I'll try not to laugh too
>loudly, I was in the industry for over 13 years working with
>"professionals") make the work of volunteers obsolete?  

Well, compare Xemacs (aka UoI/Lucid emacs) with v19 emacs.

I guess there are diferent kinds of professionals as well as
different kinds of volunteers.



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From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: LWPS (was Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again))
Date: 26 May 1994 16:45:18 -0400

In article <2roesk$mda@e4310h01.lerc.nasa.gov>,
Lisa Henn <schenn@lerc.nasa.gov> wrote:
-In article <2rmhsp$hmq@virgo.cc.gatech.edu>,
-Byron A Jeff <byron@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
-
-Well, if the LInux LOader can use second letters, I suppose we could call
-it the LInux word Processing System and have its name be LIPS also!

That could work. I'm still partial to having the W (for Word) in the
acronym.

-
->Well that an arguable point since we have ultra sophisticated tools already
->for doing complicated tasks. Balancing power/complexity with simplicity/
->ease of use is a tough task. I'm thinking for this we err to the latter and
->just KISS (Keep It Simple Silly!).
-
-So, LIPS would KISS? :) (sorry)
-
->>>      [Cent-b-15]This is Century bold 15 text.[def] and some more text
->>>      in regular format.
-
->><I said something about how that would detract from WYSIWYG>
-
->The WYSIWYG interface will show some pretty representation of
->attributed text and not the tags. 
-
-
-ahhhhhh.  That would be very clever, then.
-
-I do have a question, though:  suppose a user pulled up a doc and said, "Oh,
-I've changed my mind.  I don't want that item bold-face anymore."  How
-would that user do that?  

Ideally the user would drag a mouse over the text they want to change. Then
press a mouse button to get a pop-up menu. Then select the new attribute
for the currently selected text (in this case, change to normal). If the
user had selected an area that was all the same then then tags on both
ends would change to reflect the change. If it's a mix of attribute then
multiple tags would have to be thrown in to mark the beginning and end
of the changed text. In either case either the color of the attribute
would change, or in the WYSIWYG model, the actual font.

-
->>Some people like other formats, like HPGL.  That may be something for release
->>2, though.
-
->Well I'm thinking along the lines that PostScript (with GhostScript) is
->one of the few truely portable and convertible printing formats. 
-
-Well, I know that, but then again, I'm in your choir, Rev. Byron (would that
-make Linus the god???  Fame really _would_ get him a job!)

Most definitely.

-
-Well, my comment arose from my seeing people say, "Here is my little corner
-of the world.  This is what I do.  This is what I have always done.  Can
-your package do that?  Otherwise, I'm not interested."

Yes. I've been asking around my area too. We need to come up with a definitive
(yet limited ;-) list of things we must absolutely have. Ask around. I'm 
finding that a large majority of users only use a small subset of most
of the common wordprocessors around today.

-
-Besides, they may not initially plunge into all Linux applications.  They
-may have some old clip-art, for example the company logo that they have to
-put on every document, in another format and they might not want to do all
-sorts of side tasks to get into LWPS right away.

Compatibility is an issue. One suggestion I've received is to have 
conversion from Rich Text Format. Apparently most of the common wordprocessors
have a conversion to and from RTF.

As for images, with the PBM suite we can convert most anything to most
anything else.

-
->Also we need a way to get all those DOS/Mac clipart kinds of
->graphics into our system.
-
-Exactly.
-
->So I'd keep the ^T interface but I wouldn't expect many folks to use it.
-
-imo that's the right view to take.  Most people seem to like controlling
-the doc with the mouse, so I feel it's important to the success of LWPS to
-have that aspect function well (in order for it to become popular)
-
->Also unlike WordP where when the last attributed character is deleted the
->attribute sticks around, in LWPS when the last attributed character goes
->away, the attribute is removed also.
-
-I _*hate*_ it when WordP does that!!!

I know. That's why I pointed it out.

-
-
->You brought up another cogent point: documentation. For LWPS to work it'll
->need not only on-line docs and man pages, but a full documentation set
->like the LDP has been producing and both a paper and on-line tutorial.
-
-I think it needs examples of how to do stuff, since this is targeted at a
-general-user population.
-
-Of course, WordP has all of that, and I don't know of anyone who has used
-them (I've skimmed them), so maybe we don't need that.

Well most folks ask. So a 10 or 15 page tutorial + reference is manditory.
And not in man format either. Simple explanations with real examples.

-
-BTW, do we have to ask Joe (Allan) permission to hack JOE?

I'm sure we do. I'll talk to him presently.

BAJ
-- 
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Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu

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From: jou@pdlc.ep.nctu.edu.tw (Wei-Jou Chen)
Subject: AHA-1542CF+QUANTUM L525S
Date: 27 May 1994 03:45:50 GMT

Hello,

   How to let AHA-1542CF + QUANTUM L525S work ? I always got the following
warn message.

=====================================
 SCSI ID#0      QUANTUM L525S   ( after a while it shows) Device connect
but not ready
 BIOS not INSTALL!  NO INT 13h device
=====================================
How to solve it ? I have no manual of QUANTUM disk.

Please help me and please email to tell me.

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==  Email:jou@pdlc.ep.nctu.edu.tw or u7824501@cc.nctu.edu.tw          ==
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From: ez020772@othello.ucdavis.edu (John Kinsella)
Subject: Re: What is "DIR_COLORS" ?
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 03:32:39 GMT

Pawel Potocki (ppotocki@panix.com) wrote:
| Just recently I refreshed my old SLS Linux with the newer SLS 1.05.
| Now, in the /etc directory I found file DIR_COLORS, that seems to be

check out your ls manpage...just in case ya ain't got it:
(and I don't want to hear ANYTHING about waste of bandwidth)
}    DISPLAY COLORIZATION
}        This version of ls can produce color  output.  The  global
}        defaults  are found in the file /etc/DIR_COLORS. Users can
}        also create a copy of this file in  their  home  directory
}        called $HOME/.dir_colors to store their own preferences.
} 
}        The  file  contains  color  sequences  for the basic files
}        types, executables, and files with certain extensions such
}        as  '.gz'  or '.tar'.  The sequences are, in order: plain-
}        text, normal file, directory, symbolic link, FIFO, socket,
}        block  device, character device, and executable file.  The
}        first sequence (plaintext) is the one applied to  the  end
}        of  each file name in order to restore normal text output.
}        This is usually, but not always, a zero (0).
}        A single color sequence is composed of numerical  commands
}        separated by semicolons.  The most common commands are:
}         0 to restore default color
}         1 for brighter colors
}         4 for underlined text
}         5 for flashing text
}        30 for black foreground
}        31 for red foreground
}        32 for green foreground
}        33 for yellow (or brown) foreground
}        34 for blue foreground
}        35 for purple foreground
}        36 for cyan foreground
}        37 for white (or gray) foreground
}        40 for black background
}        41 for red background
}        42 for green background
}        43 for yellow (or brown) background
}        44 for blue background
}        45 for purple background
}        46 for cyan background
}        47 for white (or gray) background
} 
}        Not all commands work on all systems or display devices.

John
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From: wjw@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (NEW ANSWER)
Date: 26 May 1994 18:37:20 +0200

This news group always manages to confuse me! :-(

Are we talking about NetBSD in the message below?

In article <2rs8go$6tl@news-rocq.inria.fr> soulard@sor.inria.fr writes:
=>  > Conclusion:
=>  >
=>  >   It is possible to use the DMA channel by unsetting the switch 10,
=>  >   but this should not be used, especially if you have more than
=>  >   16M bytes of memory.
=>  >   
=>  >   Bus mastering is better, so use a system that supports it. DOS,
=>  >   Linux and FreeBSD work fine with Bus mastering, NetBSD-0.9 requires
=>  >   DMA channel.
=>  
=>  OK, my conclusion is wrong. Bus mastering works with NetBSD-0.9. The
=>  problem was that because my Linux says that the 445S is a 1542 card,
=>  I've used the kc-aha-09.fs image to boot NetBSD.
=>  
=>  Drew Hess just points me that I can use the kc-ahbbt-09.fs image that
=>  uses the BT742A device driver. This driver actually uses bus mastering.
=>  
=>  So everything is perfect with the 445S with any system. I was just
=>  on the wrong way.

Because this starts me wonder which kernel I should use with my 445S REV D
board under FreeBSD. I'm using the AHA kernel which works great for 16Mb
But I'm waiting for the 3.37 Eprom to go to 32MB. Should I use the BT 
kernels for FreeBSD

Thanx in advance for getting things cleared,

        WjW

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