Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #163
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Tue, 24 May 94 11:13:46 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #163, Volume #2                Tue, 24 May 94 11:13:46 EDT

Contents:
  SCSI: Adaptec vs UltraStor (BAdelsman)
  Testing Linux on a Machine (Steve McMahon)
  Re: 3 instnaces of vaporware (Jim Robinson)
  Re: blah - kmem ps utils break under 1.1.13  (Juha Laiho)
  HELP!! Internet connection problem PLEASE HELP!!! (Jay Hughes)
  Re: Beware: Just Computers (Yilong Chen)
  Re: Did anyone archive the 'Do you remember....' thread? (Rene COUGNENC)
  Re: 3 instnaces of vaporware (Robert Sanders)
  Re: URGENT: Linux Security Fixes (Douglas Warren)
  Re: Q: Best video? (David Fox)
  Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux? (William Henning)
  Re: URGENT: Linux Security Fixes (Denis Solaro)
  Why questions... (Edunetics)
  where is the source for "xbombs"? (Chris Metcalf)
  Re: Wait'll you see the May 16th PCWEEK... (Chris Bitmead)
  Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (NEW ANSWER) (Herve Soulard)
  Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (ANSWERS) (Herve Soulard)
  Re: GNU Manifesto and Lisp window system  was Re: linux unethical ? (Marcus Daniels)
  Re: Wait'll you see the May 16th PCWEEK... (Tim Smith)
  Term: Question about 'tredir' (F W Fox)
  Re: TERM 115, Linux and Ultrix (Patrick Reijnen)
  Re: Dos Emulator for Linux? (Robert G. Smith)
  Answer Re: CD-ROM and Soundblaster Pro 16 MultiCD (Richard Leyton)
  Re: Wait'll you see the May 16th PCWEEK... (Tim Smith)

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From: badelsman@aol.com (BAdelsman)
Subject: SCSI: Adaptec vs UltraStor
Date: 23 May 1994 19:51:01 -0400

I am trying to determine a good high-speed (fast SCSI-2) adapter for
Linux (plus Windows and OS/2).  I've come down to the following three
adapters (I have a 486-66, VL-bus PC):
- Adaptec 1542CF
- Adaptec 2842
- UltraStor 34F

I'd prefer a VL-bus card and am willing to wait for a Linux driver. 
If I understand the latest pubs, the 1542CF and 34F are supported
currently by Linux while the 2842 is under development.

Any opinions or experience with those cards?  How about Adaptec
support/reliablity versus UltraStor?  Ease of configuration?

Any information would be appreciated.  Either post here or e-mail to:
 badelsman@aol.com

Thanks,
Bruce

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From: steve.mcmahon@lambada.oit.unc.edu (Steve McMahon)
Subject: Testing Linux on a Machine
Date: 24 May 94 02:12:46 GMT

Hello there. I just bought a laptop and I'm wondering whether linux
would work on it. Is there a modern 1-disk combination boot/root disk
that would enable me to test whether linux would work fine on my
machine (or a 2-disk set for that matter). Any modern version of the
old boot/root disks Jim used to make or the root disk HLU used to
make?

Thanks.



-Steve


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From: jimr@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Jim Robinson)
Subject: Re: 3 instnaces of vaporware
Date: 24 May 1994 02:29:03 GMT

In article <2rotke$l0i@uuneo.neosoft.com> dlogue@news.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) writes:
>Frank Lofaro (ftlofaro@unlv.edu) wrote:
>: What are 3 well known instances of vapor-ware?
>: The Hurd, Debian Linux, and WINE!
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Am I missing something here? I am currently running Debian Linux just fine.
>Is this a private joke... if so it's very well done.

Debian Linux can only be considered vapor-ware if one thinks BETA
software is vapor... In which case I was running vapor linux kernels
since .99pl6.

Debian is available in BETA form, and we are working on another beta.
What we are aiming for is a perfect (or as close as can be :) Linux
distribution, so please bear with us! :)

Jim
Not an offical Debian Rep.


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From: jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: blah - kmem ps utils break under 1.1.13 
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 18:22:30 GMT

c9108932@sage.newcastle.edu.au (Simon Ferrett) said:
>I dunno - maybe Im the only in the world who still uses and like the
>kmem ps utilites or something...

No, you certainly are not the only one; there's two of us :)
And as you may (or not..) have noticed, there was a new release of
kmem-ps for 1.1.12. I'd suppose there will be one for 1.1.13 as well.

>Im a little out of my leage snooping aroung in the code trying to fix
>it, so i was wondering if there was anyone else who liked the kmem ps
>stuff enough for there to be a 1.1.13 kmem ps utils release?

I think I'm going to take a look at the kmem-ps and what it needs to run
under 1.1.13, but it may well be too hard for my skills as well.
-- 
Wolf  a.k.a.  Juha Laiho     Helsinki, Finland
(Geek Code 1.0.1) GCS d? p c++ l++ u(-) e+ m+ s+/- n- h(*) f(?) !g w+ t- r y+
"...cancel my subscription to the resurrection!" (Jim Morrison)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
From: jhughes@netcom.com (Jay Hughes)
Subject: HELP!! Internet connection problem PLEASE HELP!!!
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 02:35:41 GMT

HELP!!!! We have a new site set up for public access internet.  Just
converted from ESIX to Linux, and have a major problem.

It seem at random times all internet access is gone.  Acts like the
daemon is locked up..  The other maching (ESIX) has no problems accesing
the outside network.  Or we have no problems accessing it (ESIX) from the Linux
box, or accesing the router.  We can't access our name server (NS.UU.NET)
from the linux box but can from the esix box.        

Can someone PLEASE give us some hints on what to look at???
We have major bucks tied up in this and have been on and off the 
network for several day's.  

Rebooting has no effect....  JEEEEEZZZZZ

Please send mail to root@verbatim.vision.com as it would get
to the source of the problem.

thanks!!!

jhughes 
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From: cyl@ifcss.ifcss.org (Yilong Chen)
Subject: Re: Beware: Just Computers
Date: 24 May 1994 03:05:53 GMT

Anthony L. Kimball (alk@et.msc.edu) 4#(l:
: he should be able to broadcast his vile tripe at will.  Censorship
: is not tolerated by the Internet community.

fyi, censorship is not possible on internet, because no single entity 
governs the entire Internet, but each sysadmin can control what goes in 
and out of his/her territory.

nelson

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From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)
Subject: Re: Did anyone archive the 'Do you remember....' thread?
Date: 23 May 1994 01:51:44 GMT
Reply-To: cougnenc@hsc.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave Ronan Mullally ecrit:

> Bernd Meyer (umisef@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au) writes:

> > When you had the choice to either get MCC from Manchester or the
> > boot/root disk set from Helsinki?
> > When Linus used to change the yy in "linux x.yy" every few weeks?

> When we thought the jump from 0.99 to 1.0 would take a couple of weeks ;)

... when 0.13 was in fact called 0.95 because we were close to 1.0 :-)

--
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From: gt8134b@prism.gatech.edu (Robert Sanders)
Subject: Re: 3 instnaces of vaporware
Date: 24 May 1994 00:54:50 -0400

ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) writes:

>What are 3 well known instances of vapor-ware?
>The Hurd, Debian Linux, and WINE!
>:) :) :)

Okay, smilies aside, only one of those is truly well-known, and
when you have access to BETA versions, only the true "release" is
vapor.  A Debian BETA is available from sunsite, WINE now runs
several programs and is available in new versions every week or so,
and the Hurd now runs (somewhat).

These things may be less than solid, but they're not vapor.

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From: dwarren@libws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Douglas Warren)
Subject: Re: URGENT: Linux Security Fixes
Date: 24 May 1994 03:32:15 GMT

Jeroen van Gennip (jeroen@gdsnl.gds.nl) wrote:
: Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote:

: : Poor solution, the leak still remains.
: : (I will leave it as an excercise to find how this program can be
: : bypassed.  it is easy.)

: I gather you are one of these assholes that actually _enjoy_ security
: leaks, as in: enjoying breaking in to somebodies home, because you 
: just bought a master key from your local hardware shop.

I believe that the original solution, compiling a new /bin/login was the
correct one.  Rob is showing the Hacker mentality at it's best.  I think it's
something to be applauded these days.  The original bug is still known, so
why give system crackers a leg up by telling them how to crack a half-baked
workaround?  Instead he advised ppl to upgrade which would totally remove the
risk.  I doubt that he deserved the expletitives given.

--
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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Q: Best video?
Date: 24 May 1994 03:24:49 GMT

In article <2rqpgu$qkh@uc.msc.edu> alk@et.msc.edu (Anthony L. Kimball) writes:

] What is the highest quality video configuration which is
] supported by readily available linux software?

I think what I have is nearly the highest quality video
configuration for Linux:  #9 GXE level 16 with a Nanao
F780iW 21 inch monitor running at 1600x1280, 70 Hz
refresh.  The only drawback is that the monitor doesn't
sync at VGA resolution (and its pretty expensive.)
--
David Fox                                               xoF divaD
NYU Media Research Lab                     baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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From: bhenning@bhami.wimsey.com (William Henning)
Subject: Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux?
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 22:57:08 GMT

In article <Cq7IBz.8Ds@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.c.brown) writes:
>       While I'll agree that a 486/66 or 586/[60,66] will out perform
>       a Sparc II in some tests, but the Sparc still walks away from
>       Intel in terms of floating point performance.
>
>       Note the following code:
>
>       #include <stdio.h>
>       #include <math.h>
>       #include <time.h>
>       main()
>       {
>               double  x,y[1000000];
>               int     i;
>               time_t  t;
>       
>               time(&t);
>               for (i=0;i<100000;i++)
>                       {
>                       x=11.0+(33.5*i)*(33.5*i);
>                       y[i]=(sin(3.1*i)+cos(5.1*i))*sqrt(x+exp(3.14*log(x+i)));
>                       }
>               printf("time=%d\n",time(0)-t);
>       }
>
>       This takes "4" seconds on my Sparc II and "22" seconds on my
>       P5/60. Now I have not compiled this code optimized for the P5
>       yet, so maybe the story will change when I do compile it for
>       the P5.

Funny. It takes 4 seconds on my 486DX50... Please note you are allocating an
array with 1e6 elements but looping only 1e5 times. Is this deliberate?

>       BTW, here are the benchmarks for my P5
>
>       Dhrystones/second       90909
>       Whetstones/second       25000000
>       iostones/second         400000          /* SCSI */
>       xStones                 103196          /* Diamond Stealth 24 */

Nice.

Bill

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From: drzob@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Denis Solaro)
Subject: Re: URGENT: Linux Security Fixes
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 21:19:30 GMT

Martin Olesen (olesen@math.uiowa.edu) wrote:


:  Well it's 42. I thought everybody knew that :-)

Of course what do you take me for, I knew that all along ! :>

Cheers !


--
                                     Denis Solaro -- drzob@vectrex.login.qc.ca

"Winners don't use DOS.", William Csh Session, FBI. 

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From: edunet@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Edunetics)
Subject: Why questions...
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 04:17:38 GMT

    I have a couple of questions that I didn't find answers to in any
'how-to' or 'faq' file the answer:

1) every time in boot up when the kernel comes up there are two things it
says that I don't know the meaning. The first is the Bogomips count after
the  recalibration of the loop (what ever that means) and the second one
is the sentence 'this cpu honors the WP bit even when in supervisor
mode'. Can anyone shed a bit of light over these for me?

2) Why doesn't Linux support HD with a cylinder number > 1024? I have a
1272 HD that Linux ver 99.pl10+ (MCC distribution) makes problems and ver
1.0 (Slackware and MCC distribution won't install at all), Any solution
for this?


        Paolo Supino
        Somewhere.

PS - IS there a network sniffer for Linux somewhere?

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From: metcalf@CATFISH.LCS.MIT.EDU (Chris Metcalf)
Subject: where is the source for "xbombs"?
Date: 24 May 1994 05:40:25 GMT

Does anyone know where I can find the sources for xbombs, from SLS?
It's a fun game, but I'd like to be able to build it on other platforms.
(Not to mention fixing that annoying score-file bug.)  Archie turns up
nothing, as do greps on sunsite and tsx-11.

Mail to me, and I'll post a pointer if I find it.

-- 
                        Chris Metcalf, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
                        metcalf@lcs.mit.edu   //   +1 (617) 253-7766

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From: chrisb@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Chris Bitmead)
Subject: Re: Wait'll you see the May 16th PCWEEK...
Date: 24 May 1994 11:16:19 +1000

bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:


>I agree; it sounds like a desktop which will be available on multiple *ixes,
>and which is being hosted on Linux for x86 because that way they can make it a
>lot cheaper than if they used UnixWare and beat Microsoft on the price point.

One thing that puzzles me is why Novell would want Linux anyway.  They own
the "real" unix code i.e SVR4. Why would they need someone elses copy of
unix to make it cheaper. Surely they can sell SVR4 for whatever price they
want?

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From: soulard@alix.inria.fr (Herve Soulard)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (NEW ANSWER)
Date: 24 May 1994 06:57:28 GMT
Reply-To: soulard@sor.inria.fr

> Conclusion:
>
>       It is possible to use the DMA channel by unsetting the switch 10,
>       but this should not be used, especially if you have more than
>       16M bytes of memory.
>       
>       Bus mastering is better, so use a system that supports it. DOS,
>       Linux and FreeBSD work fine with Bus mastering, NetBSD-0.9 requires
>       DMA channel.


OK, my conclusion is wrong. Bus mastering works with NetBSD-0.9. The
problem was that because my Linux says that the 445S is a 1542 card,
I've used the kc-aha-09.fs image to boot NetBSD.

Drew Hess just points me that I can use the kc-ahbbt-09.fs image that
uses the BT742A device driver. This driver actually uses bus mastering.

So everything is perfect with the 445S with any system. I was just
on the wrong way.

                herve Soulard.

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From: soulard@alix.inria.fr (Herve Soulard)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (ANSWERS)
Date: 24 May 1994 06:06:57 GMT
Reply-To: soulard@sor.inria.fr

> The SCSI card works fine with DOS and with Linux 1.1.11. The
> only problem is that the DMA channel is not set.

I want to thanks everybody for their answers. The solution is to 
set the swicth 10 in SB2 to OFF. I've also found this information
in a file reporting problems for the BT445S; the problem was not
with DMA chanel but the info was there !

> From /sys/i386/isa/bt742a.c in FreeBSD file KNOWNBUGS
> .....
> Also note that certain revisions of the Buslogic board (Revision C or 
> earlier, firmware revision <3.37) will cause DRRUPTION with systems 
> containing more than 16MB of memory.

For those who may doubt, with my system (20Mbytes and firmware 3.37) it 
works perfectly. I thing my board is revision E.

> The Buslogic BT-445S and the BT-74[27] don't use on-board DMA, which is
> slow; they use busmastering.  So don't worry that it's not using any DMA
> channel, it's not supposed to.

This is an interesting point. But the problem arises with NetBSD-0.9 
that needs the DMA channel. Linux and DOS don't care. I've not tried with
NetBSD-current nor FreeBSD (It seems that FreeBSD does not care). 


Conclusion:

        It is possible to use the DMA channel by unsetting the switch 10,
        but this should not be used, especially if you have more than
        16M bytes of memory.
        
        Bus mastering is better, so use a system that supports it. DOS,
        Linux and FreeBSD work fine with Bus mastering, NetBSD-0.9 requires
        DMA channel.


                        Herve Soulard.

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From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU Manifesto and Lisp window system  was Re: linux unethical ?
Date: 24 May 1994 12:55:32 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU Manifesto and Lisp window system  was Re: linux unethical ?
References: <2q55la$qpe@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <2q5u73$q3t@galaxy.ucr.edu>
        <2rc4hq$cvd@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>
        <JANSSEN.94May17232343@holmes.PARC.Xerox.Com>
Distribution: 
--text follows this line--
Andrew>    A Lisp-based window system? Is that still happening?

Other than X+CLX, CLUE, CLIO, XIT, Garnet (!!), etc. ?!

[yes, and of course the wonderful GWM Window manager]

>>>>> "Bill" == Bill Janssen <janssen@holmes.PARC.Xerox.Com> writes:
In article <JANSSEN.94May17232343@holmes.PARC.Xerox.Com> janssen@holmes.PARC.Xerox.Com (Bill Janssen) writes:

Bill> You mean, aside from GNU Emacs?

I wonder how many Emacs functions could be easily ported to run 
(asyncronously) on external ELISP interpreters.  (GNUS?)

[Evidently, Bill is being a bit coy]

Inter-Language-Unification would be dandy for a multithreaded
persistent object store GUI workspace thingy.

ILU will also make it much easier to use LISP, and LISP GUI software like
Garnet, CLIO/XIT, etc.  in the `real world'.










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From: tzs@u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: Wait'll you see the May 16th PCWEEK...
Date: 24 May 1994 14:27:52 GMT

Craig Burley <burley@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote:
>fight the good fight in Linus' stead.  Or, if Linus was unable to
>litigate due to lack of funds, we could donate money directly to
>him, I suppose (though many GPL supporters would probably prefer that

Actually, it's not clear that you can do this.  At common law, there was
a crime called "maintenance" which consisted of paying someone else to
litigate something.  Legal defense funds are apparently OK, but funds
to support the bringing or continuation of a suit can be maintenance.

(Yes, I realize just such a fund was proposed by certain conservatives
to support Paula Jones.  That's what got me thinking about maintenance.
I didn't think it would show up in this group, though!)

--Tim Smith

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From: cs_d613@king.ac.uk (F W Fox)
Subject: Term: Question about 'tredir'
Date: 24 May 1994 14:35:35 GMT
Reply-To: fox@dcs.king.ac.uk


Has anyone managed to set tredir up so that you can telnet back from
the remote machine to your local?
I've tried it like the manual page says (sorta  % tredir 2023 23)
and it just comes back with connection refused.

If you can help, please can you email me?

Thanks.

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From: patrickr@sci.kun.nl (Patrick Reijnen)
Subject: Re: TERM 115, Linux and Ultrix
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 07:44:04 GMT

In <2rriar$4p4@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> smoke@cs.pitt.edu (Sheldon Smoker) writes:

>hkennedy@mercury.ncat.edu wrote:
>: Hi,

>: Even though this is more of an Ultrix problem than Linux, I posted here
>: because some folks have to use an Ultrix host with Linux like me.

>: Thanks to all that sent me the patches to compile TERM under Ultrix 4.3a.
>: The patches worked great with no problems, and the compile was without
>: any errors. However I still get the following error when I run term,
>: and it does not matter what the options are used for term. Term just
>: posts the error message and exits. :(

>: ***** Start Error Message *****

>: Term version: 1.15
>: Bind: Invalid argument

>The problem is that you are on afs.  On an afs file system you cannot
>create a socket.  You must create a socket on your machines local
>disk, like in /tmp.  Then you will not get the error message.  I guess
>you would have to change the path that term uses for the socket file.
>Currently, term uses something like $TERMDIR/socket.  If you make this
>path into /tmp/socket then you will no longer get the 'Bind: Invalid argument'
>error.

Some extra help: You are not the one creating the socket file in the .term directory. This is done by term itself. It makes such a file on both sites. Sockets are used for the communication over the term link.


>hope this helps,
>Sheldon.

>--
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>Pitt Computer Science        | phone : (412) 624 8454         
><a href="http://www.cs.pitt.edu/~smoke">my home page</a>  


Patrick Reijnen

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From: rob@bip.anatomy.upenn.edu (Robert G. Smith)
Subject: Re: Dos Emulator for Linux?
Date: 24 May 1994 06:34:33 GMT

Kevin Ray Deane-Freeman (kevinrd@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Does it Exist and where can I get it????

You can get dosemu from sunsite.unc.edu:pub/Linux/system/Emulators/dosemu.
This version works with linux kernels up to 1.0.9 and 1.1.7.

A new version of dosemu that works with the kernels 1.1.8 -> 1.1.14
is supposed to be released soon.

Rob Smith


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From: eleyt@london.chevron.com (Richard Leyton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,de.comp.os.linux
Subject: Answer Re: CD-ROM and Soundblaster Pro 16 MultiCD
Date: 24 May 94 10:31:53 GMT

In article <2rl7en$ak8@prakinf2.PrakInf.TU-Ilmenau.DE>, schorcht@theoinf.tu-ilmenau.de (Gunar Schorcht) says:
>
>Hi,
>
>Has anybody installed CD-ROM (Panasonic CR-562B, Mitsumi FX 001D, ...) by
>connecting at the Soundblaster Pro 16 MultiCD CD-Rom interface? Does the
>linux CD-Rom driver works with this installation.

Yup, been there, done that (Panasonic)... With Linux 0.99.pl14 Support for 
the CD ROM Interface is included in the standard distribution... You should 
have no trouble installing it (Get the IRQ's & DMA details before hand).

>
>Thanks for all information.
>
>Ciao Gunar
>
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From: tzs@u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: Wait'll you see the May 16th PCWEEK...
Date: 24 May 1994 14:38:58 GMT

David Barr <barr@pop.psu.edu> wrote:
>It means that if Novell made any modifcations or additions to any GPL-
>licensed code (kernel, utilties, etc), you should be able to contact
>Novell and get the diffs.  If Novell wrote any new programs that aren't
>based on GPL-licensed code, then they're still property and copyright
>of Novell.

To get more technical, it they wrote any programs that aren't derivative
works of GPL'ed code, they can distribute them any way the want, with or
without source.  Something can be "based on" something else without being
a "derivative work" of that thing.  For example, an add-on spell checker
to a word processor, that works by understanding the internal data
structures of the word processor, would meet most people's definition of
something "based on" something else, but it would probably not be a
derivative work.

In other words, the normal English phrase "based on" is not the same as
the copyright technical term "derivative work", and it is the latter that
is relevant.

--Tim Smith

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