Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #151
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Sun, 22 May 94 10:13:11 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #151, Volume #2                Sun, 22 May 94 10:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: 3c579 & AC3200 the only supported 32-bit Ethernetcards ? (Donald Becker)
  Re: Standard Linux GUI (Jonathan A Buzzard)
  Spea Mirage 132x25 Text-Mode (Erik Blass)
  Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi C (Hal N. Brooks)
  Re: fsck necessary during boot? (Wolfgang Schelongowski)
  Re: Help selecting good SCSI disk (Harvey Fishman)
  Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor (Shyamal Prasad)
  Re: Who is Linux targetting? (Scott C. Gray)
  Re: Best Video Card for X11 (Howie Grapek)
  Re: BBS-development Team wanted (Rocco Caputo)
  Re: Linus's fame -> job offers (Sven Goldt)
  BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel (Herve Soulard)
  Re: Bad experience with Storage USA (Jim Michael)
  Re: InfoMagic CD-ROM -- how to order? (Bruce Bigby)
  Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again) (Brandon S. Allbery)
  Re: PCI or VL bus SCSI Host Adapters (Doug McIntyre)
  Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor (lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64))
  End of Addtron $19/$29 offer.... (David Lesher)
  Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux? (william.c.brown)

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From: becker@cesdis (Donald Becker)
Subject: Re: 3c579 & AC3200 the only supported 32-bit Ethernetcards ?
Date: 20 May 1994 19:38:46 -0400

In article <2r9lf0$36d@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>,
Klaus R. Liedl <krl@tci005.uibk.ac.at> wrote:
>Are the 3c579 and the AC3200 really the only two supported 32-bit
>(EISA or PCI) Ethernetcards ?
>(The Ethernet-HOWTO says so, but I can not beleive it ...)

There aren't many 32 bit ethercard device drivers because there aren't
that many 32 bit ethercards.

There aren't many 32 bit ethercards out there because a 10Mbs network
doesn't justify spending the 5x price increment for the 32 bit interface.

This might change now that AMD has introduced the 32 bit PCnet-VLB and
PCnet-PCI chips.  The street price of the Boca PCnet-VLB board should
be well under $100 -- perhaps $70 from a place like CMO (see Computer
Shopper).

While this board has a backwards-compatible mode that should work with
the existing LANCE driver, I might write a driver for the faster
enhanced mode.  More on that story as it develops...

[[ Note my new affiliation, and my bogus return address in the header. ]]
-- 
Donald Becker                            becker@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov
USRA Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences.
Code 930.5,  Goddard Space Flight Center,  Greenbelt, MD.  20771

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From: phyjab1@phyd4c6.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Jonathan A Buzzard)
Subject: Re: Standard Linux GUI
Reply-To: phyjab1@phyd4c6.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Jonathan A Buzzard)
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 16:40:47 GMT


--

>Simply cloning the "looks" for existing Motif widget is not enough. Xwm close
>enough to "look" part, but it's not quite same in the "feel" part. Having
>to clone a useful Motif means that you should also allow it's extention 
>functionality and that isn't a easy task. Usualy development time for a
>Motif widge (new one that is) usually few weeks for me. Now, to start that
>over with the entire widget set would mean mean years of man hours.

I make just over 300 widgets (counting man pages), and many of these are just convience forms of other widgets. But it is not as hard as you make out. If you started with the Xw widget set it would probable take a few months to bash this into a clone of the corresponding Motif widgets (for someone knowledgeable). This would provide all the basic Motif widgets.

However in the mean time other people can start on other areas of the widget set if they have a copy of Motif handy, as all the widgets are created from a set of basic widgets (arrows, buttons and the like). So I could write a clone of the
XmFileSelection widgets using a stock copy of Motif, and independently of the rest of the project. When the widgets on which it depends are written, then it can easily be slotted into place.

There is also a range of programs/widget sets etc. from which code could be taken and knocked into shape to speed up the process. With a sufficiant number of volenters it should not take to long. I also suspect that most Motif programs only use a limited subset of the full widget set, and if the effort was concentrated on these you might be able to get something usable earlier.

JAB.

===============================================================================
Jonathan A. Buzzard,              
Physics Department,           Email:-
Heriot-Watt University,            phyjab1@caledonia.hw.ac.uk   InterNet
Edinburgh. EH14 4AS                phyjab1@uk.ac.hw.clust       JANET
United Kingdom.

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From: erik@gondor.gun.de (Erik Blass)
Subject: Spea Mirage 132x25 Text-Mode
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 16:16:48 GMT

Hi !
For all those of you with a Spea Mirage (86C805) who want to enjoy the 133x25
text mode under Linux.

Edit /usr/src/linux/boot/setup.S 
Look for:
           mounknown:      .byte   0x02
and replace it with:
           mounknown:      .byte   0x03,   0x55

and look for:
           dsunknown:      .word   0x5032, 0x501c
and replace it with:
           dsunknown:      .word   0x5032, 0x501c, 0x8419

(Sorry, but I don't have "diff")

Now recompile the kernel, set vga=ask and run lilo.



Greetings,
        Erik



MY REAL-REPLY-ADRESSE IS: erik@gondor.gun.de

-- 
Erik Blass|Internet erik@i486.gondor.sub.org|Z-Netz erik@stargate.zer
Theegartener Str.38|42651 Solingen|Voice:0212-201660|Linux,486,X11,C++,OLWM
Ich habe Dinge gesehen, die ihr Menschen niemals glauben wuerdet. Gigantische
Schiffe die brannten an der Schulter des Orion. Und C-Beams - glitzernd in der
Dunkelheit nahe dem Tannhaeuser Tor. All diese Momente werden verloren sein in
der Zeit...so wie Traenen im Regen.       Zeit zu sterben...       [Roy Batty]

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From: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks)
Subject: Re: software communists was Re: BRIEF/vi C
Date: 20 May 1994 18:06:53 GMT
Reply-To: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks)

In article <1994May20.172000.25906@eurom.rhein-main.de> misch@misch@elara.fsag.de writes:
>In article 9598@emc.rvt.com, remco@emc.rvt.com (Remco Treffkorn) writes:
>
>>Matt, I am (still) getting payed for writing software, and not bad, to
>>be honest. As long as I am willing to take money for my work product
>>(software), I can not blame whoever came up with the money, if they
>>turn around and resell it. They made an investment and want to see
>>a return on it. I do NOT see any difference between software and 
>>music in this respect. Somebody gets paid for creating it, somebody
>>else then copies it and sells it en masse. The creator gets paid once,
>>or gets royalties.
>
>Well - there are a lot of differences between music and software. Did you
>ever tape some records? Or videos? Doing the same with software would be
>illegal. Software is protected by copyrights _and_ only available in 
>machine readable code. That has never been in the mind of the copyright
>law founders.

I don't even know why I'm entering this discussion, and I probably won't
follow whatever else ensues, but I just wanted to make one point here.

While I don't know the laws of Germany with regard to copyrights on music
and videos, copying them in the US is very much in violation of copyright
laws.  Though I doubt that many cases have been brought against anyone except
very large scale pirates who have attempted to turn a profit by reselling
these illegal copies.  This is largely the case w.r.t. software, too, as
I've never heard of any private individual being prosecuted because he
happened to get an illegal copy of some software from a friend.  Businesses
are a different story.

Few people realize it, but in fact it is illegal in the US for a store
to play music (even from a radio station!) over loudspeakers for the
enjoyment of their customers!  Stores are required to pay royalties
to some association of musicians (I can't recall the name of the
organization), but the group has been very active in going into
stores and going to court over this issue.

-hal

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From: ws@xivic.bo.open.de (Wolfgang Schelongowski)
Subject: Re: fsck necessary during boot?
Date: 21 May 1994 12:32:28 +0200

In <2rif2e$p3t@s.ms.uky.edu> adams@ms.uky.edu (Robert Adams) writes:

>Is it necessary to run fsck on every boot?  I don't leave my computer on all
>the time, so every time I boot, I have to sit through the check.  

You must shut down properly before turning the power off. Then the *fsck
will tell you that the partition is clean and won't be checked.

"Shutting down properly" means using e.g. `halt`. Some of the last
messages you see says that all partitions are unmounted.
-- 
Wolfgang Schelongowski  ws@xivic.bo.open.de

"If you don't look after knowledge, it goes away."
  -- Terry Pratchett, The Carpet People

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From: fishman@panix.com (Harvey Fishman)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Help selecting good SCSI disk
Date: 20 May 1994 20:27:07 -0400

In <Cq4Ett.8zL@cichlid.com> aab@cichlid.com (Andy Burgess) says

> Rotational speed is a spec to consider. Many are >3600 rpm to 5400 or 6400.

I wonder...it seems to me that what we want is really average latency and
data rate.  While rotational speed is a direct measure of the latency, it
is only a measure of data rate if all other things are equal (and they
rarely are).  It seems to me that in a multi-tasking system, data rate may
be far more important than absolute access time (which the latency is an
important component of).  With modern drives, the data rates are usually
given as a range of bitrates (because of ZRR), and for systems more
advanced than PC/MS-DOS those number may be more important than rotational
rate. 

Just some ideas that float around in my mind and I have not really
resolved to my satisfaction.

Harvey

--
============================================================================
 Harvey Fishman   |    Hating someone is sort of like beating your head 
fishman@panix.com |                  against the wall.
  718-258-7276    |           It feels so good when you stop.


                     

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From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 23:10:35 GMT

In article <rob.769368580@darkstar.cygnus.com>,
Rob Savoye <rob@Cygnus.COM> wrote:
>msuzio@tiamat.umd.umich.edu (Mike Suzio) writes:
>
>>shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad) writes:
>
>>In short, let's not condemn anyone for trying to make money.  If you want
>>to consider them evil scum, fine.  But they have a place in the Linux
>

Uhh....besides getting some people upset now here is some one
attributing stuff I never said to me!

Oh well....the second time this sort of thing has happened to me in
two days. 

BUT I agree with the sentiment, whose ever it is.

Shyamal
-- 
Shyamal Prasad, Department of Computer Science
Southern Methodist University, Dallas TX 75275, USA

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From: gray@pong.nas.nasa.gov (Scott C. Gray)
Subject: Re: Who is Linux targetting?
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 18:47:52 GMT

In article <Cq3p05.5x5@sci.kun.nl>, Mark van Hoeij <hoeij@sci.kun.nl> wrote:
>In <2qgvvc$5n5@news1.svc.portal.com> poulet@shell.portal.com (boris leonid sheikman) writes:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>   I've installed Linux and have been using for about a month or two, and I 
>>really enjoy using it as opposed to DOS. Call me a Linux novice, but I notice
>>that the Linux and whole UNIX market is aiming somewhere above the user who
>>just wants to dump DOS and Windows. I can't find a simple application like a 
>>graphical word processor similar to MS-WORD or MS-WRITE (ok, simple may have
>>been the wrong word). I can't even find some X sound editing tools similar
>>to COOL for Windows.
>
>This reminds me when I had a commodore 64. Then a PC with DOS was a big
>computer. But there wasn't a single good game, or any funny program
>for DOS at that time. Just like with DOS then, for Linux there will be
>this kind of programs if the number of people using it increases.
>

I still feel that the heart of the problem lays (lies?) in the intimidating 
complexity of the OS itself.  I mean, UNIX (on a whole) has been around 
longer than DOS, so it should have the killer apps (well, it *does* have
some, but not for the average user).

-scott

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From: howie@fc.hp.com (Howie Grapek)
Subject: Re: Best Video Card for X11
Date: 21 May 1994 00:39:49 GMT

So, what were your responses? 
I, too, am upgrading, and would love to see a benchmark (or at least hear
people's opinions).

Bryon G. Rigg (bgrigg@unicoi.uucp) wrote:
: This maybe a fact. (if it is may you have mercy on my soul)

: Has anyone done performance testing on the available video cards on the market.
: If so, what was the outcome.  I am looking at upgrading my machine.  I've
: heard that diamonds are fast but they don't do Linux.  Any suggentions?

: Thanks,
: Bryon Rigg
: #include      <stdisclmr.h>

--
Howie Grapek, Contractor          __o          Hewlett Packard
Voice: (303) 229-2318           _ \<,_         3404 E. Harmony Road
FAX:   (303) 229-4977          (_)/ (_)        Fort Collins, Co  80525
                            howie@fc.hp.com

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From: troc@loreli.ftl.fl.us (Rocco Caputo)
Subject: Re: BBS-development Team wanted
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 17:17:50 GMT

There's something running under Linux that looks quite a lot like a
bulletin board system.  You can reach it at 305.985.0883 in the US.
It assumes you've got standard (non-music) ANSI when you call up.

--
-><- Signature.

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From: goldt@math.tu-berlin.de (Sven Goldt)
Subject: Re: Linus's fame -> job offers
Date: 22 May 1994 12:26:38 GMT

Well,not only job offers are his reward.His travels are paid by
the universities and he gets shares from several publications
like the german linux book.

--
*****************************************************************************
*    # THE MOST IMPORTANT FINANCIAL QUESTION IS:  Where is the money ? #    *
*****************************************************************************

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From: soulard@corto.inria.fr (Herve Soulard)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: BusLogi 445S and DMA Channel
Date: 22 May 1994 12:34:36 GMT
Reply-To: soulard@sor.inria.fr


Hello,

I've just bought a BusLogic BT445S and I've a problem with the
DMA channel. When I load the BusLogic DOS Manager, it reports that
no DMA channel is used. The same thing is reported by the NetBSD
installtion disk. I've read many times the Installation Guide, and
nowhere I've seen the switches to use to set the DMA channel.

Does somebody know how to solve this problem ?

Here are the characteristics of my system :

        Orchid SuperBoard 486 DX2/66 VLB
        AMI Bios 06/06/92
        20 Mbytes of RAM
        
        DC-200 Promise ISA IDE Cache Controller
        with 4 MBytes of cache
        250 Mbytes Maxtor IDE Disk
        340 MBytes Maxtor IDE Disk
        
        BusLogic 445S
        BIOS Version 4.72
        FIRMWARE 3.37
        40 MBytes SCSI Disk with ID 2
        (1GBytes DEC disk is ordered)
        
        Cirrus Logic 5426 VLB Video Card
        2Mo of video memory.
        

The SCSI card works fine with DOS and with Linux 1.1.11. The
only problem is that the DMA channel is not set.

I've also tried the DMA test from the BIOS of the BT445S
(g=dc00:9 under debug) and it reports no errors.

So what is wrong ?

Thanks for any future help.

                Herve Soulard.

PS: I would prefer email answers.

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From: genepool@netcom.com (Jim Michael)
Subject: Re: Bad experience with Storage USA
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 19:21:19 GMT

Michael Yip (myip@wellfleet.com) wrote:


: Hi there,

: I just want to warn those of you who are shopping around for a hard drive.
: I just had an extremely bad experience with a salesman named John (salesperson
: number 100012) from a company called Storage USA which I pick out from Computer
: Shopper.

: I started my inquiry about the availability of any Seagate 200MB SCSI hard drive.
: He indicated that they only have SCSI-2 and that the smallest Seagate SCSI-2 drive
: they have available is 3.5" 343MB 12ms for $359 and the next higher up is a 
: 3.5" 456MB 12ms for $459.  I specifically asked if a SCSI-2 drive will work 

I don't know about SCSI drives but you can get 420 MB Caviar drives from Hi-Q
in Atlanta for $275. No surcharge for credit cards and 30 day money back 
guarantee. FAX: 404.417.1453 Voice: 404.417.1450. I have no connection with
Hi-Q except as a satisfied customer. I have been dealing with Paul.

Jim Michael

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From: bigby.henr801b@xerox.com (Bruce Bigby)
Subject: Re: InfoMagic CD-ROM -- how to order?
Reply-To: brucebigby@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 13:49:04 GMT


What is InfoMagic CD-Rom?

Bruce


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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: Linux for the masses? (WordProcessing again)
Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 12:28:57 GMT

In article <1994May22.025817.11421@taylor.wyvern.com>, mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) says:
+---------------
| the MS-"DOS" or MS-"Windows" version.  In addition, WordPerfect has a policy
| of setting the retail price of ALL of it's platforms the same.  If that
| isn't enough, I believe WordPerfect corp will give you a price break if you
| already have WP for MS-"DOS" or any other platform and want to upgrade to
+------------->8

More than that:  most Unix software resellers will sell the single-user
version of WordPerfect at cost (forgoing profit) because they expect to make
their money on upgrades to more users.  (Obviously, their pricing scheme
doesn't take Linux into account :-)

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery         kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org          bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
The FUDs at Microsoft are shouting "Kill The Wabi!"

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From: merlyn@icicle.winternet.com (Doug McIntyre)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: PCI or VL bus SCSI Host Adapters
Date: 22 May 94 13:06:46 GMT

heiser@world.std.com (Bill Heiser) writes:
>Neither the hardware FAQ nor the kernel config stuff mentions
>anything about support in LINUX for VL or PCI bus disk controllers.
>I'm particularly concerned about ADAPTEC support.

>Are there any plans to support these so we can use the
>faster busses for SCSI support?

Yes, there are plans for the development of drivers for the Adaptec 
2{7,8,9}42 series of controllers. They are all basicly the same, and
probably can use the same driver. The problem comes with the guy doing
it is graduating (hell time), and has to deal with things like programming
a RISC sequencer chip that is part of the AIC-7770 chip..

I don't know why anybody automaticly thinks of VL as soo much faster. I did
some time comparisions with various VL bus and ISA bus controllers with 
a fast SCSI-II hard drive (Fujitsu 1.2G), and the one that one had the
top speed was still the Adaptec 1542CF. Granted, a couple of them came
real close, like only 20-30k/sec slower :)
These did not include the Adaptec 2842 though, so I don't know if that
would have gained anything. I haven't gotten to play with one yet :(
--
Doug McIntyre                           merlyn@icicle.winternet.com

Write to info@winternet.com for more information about Winternet's
Internet services and dialups. 

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From: lilo@slip-1-57 (lilo (SpRiNg 94 GpA 3.64))
Subject: Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor
Date: 22 May 1994 13:17:01 GMT

On 20 May 1994 23:53:25 -0700, Bill Hogan (bhogan@crl.com) wrote:

> Win Bent (whb@rastaban.usc.edu) wrote:

> : I DO NOT OBJECT to selling software on The Net.  I DO OBJECT to
> : announcements which bury the word "pricing" so that one might not
> : realise that it's a commercial offering.

>   I very much object to seeing "commercials" on the net!

>   If anyone is free to post commercial advertisements on the net then
> everyone is free to post commercial advertisements on the net! 

Commercial advertisements are like anything else on the net; they're on
topic when they're on topic; when they're not, they're not.  :)

>   "The Net" is like a school: people come here to communicate with other 
> people interested in learning about related things.

>   We do not give salespeople free access to our classrooms.

>   Why do we not give salespeople free access to our classrooms?

>   Should we give salespeople free access our classrooms?

>   Should we give salespeople free access to our newsgroups?

You keep repeating that phrase as if it is guaranteed to push a button and
cause us all to fill with raging indignation.

Hmm.  No raging indignation.  (At least on my part.)  ;)

>   Think about it.

I have.  I would hate to see announcements of commercial software products
for Linux (or closely-related systems) off-topic in, say, c.o.l.a. ;)


lilo

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From: wb8foz@netcom.com (David Lesher)
Subject: End of Addtron $19/$29 offer....
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 00:10:11 GMT

FYI:
The Addtron evaluation offer of AE-200 series cards is over, per
a rep. at Interop/Networld. 

For more details, talk to them at 510-770-0120

Addtron
47968 Fremont Blvd.
Fremont CA 94538

-- 
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close...........(v)301 56 LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close)....kibo# 777............pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead..............vr....................20915-1433

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From: corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.c.brown)
Subject: Re: Who are you & what do you do w/ Linux?
Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 13:47:56 GMT

In article <2rlu83$76a@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
> In article <2rbincINNbf4@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
> Bogdan Urma <bau1@cornell.edu> wrote:

        [Much deleted]

> I'm a thirty-year old finance PhD student at Stanford University.  A former
> housemate, Ken Neighbors, turned me on to Linux.  Ken's a rocket scientist
> (seriously) and a certified genius/good 'ol Southern boy.  I have a 486DX2/66
> VLB at home, with 17 inch color monitor (ATI Graphic Ultra Pro) and
> 1 Gb harddrive, purpose bought for Linux.  I saw no reason to buy any sort
> of PC prior to learning about Linux.

        Nice setup!
> 
> I've been convinced that X-windows and Unix were the way to go ever since
> I got to play with it as a computer science graduate student at 
> the Laboratory of Computer Science at MIT in 1986 (color workstations in
> 1986, one per office, what a place, yeah!).

        Here Here!!
> 

        [lots deleted]

> I know there is some interest at the GSB to use Linux boxes as mail
> servers.  Right now they have a Sparc IPX (or maybe a Sparc 2, I'm not
> sure) handling all the MBA mail, of which there is tons.  All the benchmarks
> I have been able to run show 486DX2/66 clearly superior to Sparc 2 and
> IPX on integer problems, so I suspect that a 486 would do this job as
> well if not better (I'd be interested to hear what people say about this).

        While I'll agree that a 486/66 or 586/[60,66] will out perform
        a Sparc II in some tests, but the Sparc still walks away from
        Intel in terms of floating point performance.

        Note the following code:

        #include <stdio.h>
        #include <math.h>
        #include <time.h>
        main()
        {
                double  x,y[1000000];
                int     i;
                time_t  t;
        
                time(&t);
                for (i=0;i<100000;i++)
                        {
                        x=11.0+(33.5*i)*(33.5*i);
                        y[i]=(sin(3.1*i)+cos(5.1*i))*sqrt(x+exp(3.14*log(x+i)));
                        }
                printf("time=%d\n",time(0)-t);
        }

        This takes "4" seconds on my Sparc II and "22" seconds on my
        P5/60. Now I have not compiled this code optimized for the P5
        yet, so maybe the story will change when I do compile it for
        the P5.

        BTW, here are the benchmarks for my P5

        Dhrystones/second       90909
        Whetstones/second       25000000
        iostones/second         400000          /* SCSI */
        xStones                 103196          /* Diamond Stealth 24 */

> Oooh, I'm running at the mouth again, time to shut up.
> 
> RNA


        --Corey


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