Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #129
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Wed, 18 May 94 14:13:58 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #129, Volume #2                Wed, 18 May 94 14:13:58 EDT

Contents:
  Re: ISDN card drivers for Linux? (Ragnar Nielsen)
  Re: ISDN card drivers for Linux? (Alan Cox)
  Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor (Peter Suetterlin)
  Re: MITSUMI - final word (David W. Berry)
  XServer for WD90C33 chipset?? (daveco@ids.net)
  test (Tom Mayo)
  Re: Please help: trouble configuring network (Luke M Kaven)
  Re: /proc/kcore (Rob Janssen)
  Linux Tools? [Walnut Creek] (brenckle@solaris-2.Armstrong.EDU)
  Re: Please help: trouble configuring network (Bob Goddard)
  Re: What is latest CD out? (Michael Wanggaard)
  Re: Please help: trouble configuring network (John Lellis)
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (Mark-Oliver Wolter)
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (Mark-Oliver Wolter)
  NIS Status (Eric Hausgaard)
  Re: Clothes named after programming languages (Lewis (YDNCTFL YWSRCFAOTW McCarthy))
  Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue) (Joe Pannon)
  Re: Learning C++ on Linux? (Sujat Jamil)
  Re: Purify - non-commercial version? (Michael Griffith)

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From: rani@amanda.bbb.no (Ragnar Nielsen)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.dcom.isdn
Subject: Re: ISDN card drivers for Linux?
Date: 18 May 1994 14:56:27 +0200

In <2rcskl$jqj@inferno.mpx.com.au> jhonan@jolt.mpx.com.au (Jamie Honan) writes:

>Amongst the most popular cards in Europe are the Diehl (German). There
>are Linux driver's for these. I'm not sure if these are dumb or smart
>cards (or if they have a range).

To my recollection, diehl isdn GmBh offers both intelligent and passive
ISDN cards. Could check out some glossy brochures if anyone wants me to.

>Just to round off this long-winded article: I don't recommend external
>TA's. You lose too much bandwidth in 'framing'.

That depends on what kind of line protocol the TA uses. Currently, the
most popular (that I'm aware of, anyway) is V.110, which is a non-framing
rate adaption protocol, and V.120, which is a framing/multiplexing protocol.

V.110 is nice to use bacause of its simplicity and lack of overhead, the down
side is that it is not defined for R interface speeds above 19k2bps. At least
it wasn't the last time I checked. Several manufacturers, including us, do,
however, offer V.110 for speeds up to 64kbps. We've tested it for interopera-
bilty between several brands of TA's, and it seems to work nicely.

V.120 offers increased functionality over V.110, at the cost of some framing
overhead.

In the case of a PC card, I believe that some framing technique is employed
whenever one bonds 2 B-channels for increased bandwidth. This may be 
necessary because of the possibility of path differences (and consecutive
differences in transmission delay) between the two B-channels.

Regards,

Ragnar

Ragnar Nielsen
Technical Manager
ID Communication as



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Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.dcom.isdn
From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: ISDN card drivers for Linux?
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 13:14:41 GMT

In article <jeremy.769246367@suite.sw.oz.au> jeremy@sour.sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge) writes:
>We're looking at setting up a Linux box as an ISDN gateway
>machine, and we're wondering if we need to write a driver for
>any card we may get.

Probably you will. Someone has done an ALPHA driver for the Diehl series
of cards. Its not very usable but works. Also cards with a hardware
16550A UART emulation (or real chip) on on board work. Some have OS/2
software UART emulators - that won't do.

Next be warned that getting ISDN to talk to other ISDN is fascinating...
One trick is to stuff all the official specs and just run asynchronous
SLIP over the ISDN line like a fast modem. PPP still has a lot of
interoperability problems.

>We'd be happy with ahpha, beta test/prerelease versions, and
>could actively help develop/debug a driver.
I'm still trying to get permission here to do a driver for the Sonix 
PC/Arpeggio card.

>Also, what PC ISDN cards available approved for use in Australia?
No idea sorry.

Alan



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From: ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Suetterlin)
Subject: Re: BRIEF/vi Compatible GUI Text Editor
Date: 18 May 1994 11:59:29 GMT

Rob Savoye (rob@Cygnus.COM) wrote:
: whb@rastaban.usc.edu (Win Bent) writes:
: >Sounds nice.  Oh, what's that?  "Pricing"?  Let's see...  It turns out
: >that a Fixed License to CRISP costs $300.

:   Also to note, is that unlike the rest of Unix, none of the newer versions
: of crisp past 2.2.e (many years old) have the source released. I personally
: don't like the idea of taking all the source of a decent program proprietary.
: A truly free (GPL'd) systems like Linux shouldn't be ruined by "non-free"
: software. (I don't run motif on Linux either)

:       - rob -
: --

I see the problem of advertisements for 'payware' on the net. 
But, OTOH, see all those postings that *ask* for exactly that kind of
software (Mathematica, Maple, ....).
And, as long as it isn't a permanent reappearing post, I appreciate
*every* posting concerning the availability of new software for Linux.
At least, I don't have to buy it. But to make the decision not to buy, I
have to know that it exists.

  Peter

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From: dwb@netcom.com (David W. Berry)
Subject: Re: MITSUMI - final word
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 06:16:52 GMT

In article <2qugt4$k2h@Gauss.suse.de> mantel@suse.de (Hubert Mantel) writes:
>In article <2qpntl$7qn@bronze.lcs.mit.edu>,
>OMEN <omen@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
>>mount: /dev/mcd is not a valid block device.
>>
>> Someone give me the bottom line: IS the mitsumi supported at my
>>kernel level? If not, at a higher level?  What the hell am I 
>>doing wrond?  I'd really like to be able to access the Linux Toolkit
>
>Do you get a message at bootup saying that your Mitsumi is recognized?
>If not so, look at /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mcd.h and enter the
>correct values for I/O address and IRQ in lines 25 and 28.

  Well, I just finished installing from a Mitsumi drive at
the "default" address/IRQ of 300/11 using the Trans-Ameritech
distribution and the "cd" kernel.  Everything went fine once
I pulled the SoundBlaster board from my system.  Seems the
autodetect for the soundblaster was confusing the autodetect
for the mitsumi.  Once everything was installed and running
I was able to configure for the soundblaster and the mitsumi
and everything seems to be working fine with both installed.
Fortunately I'm not using a SCSI disk off the sound blaster :)


-- 

David W. Berry          dwb@netcom.com                  Greenwing Enterprises

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From: daveco@ids.net
Subject: XServer for WD90C33 chipset??
Date: Mon, 16 May 94 19:17:00 GMT


  Hi there... I'm trying to set up XFree86 2.1 on a system with a Paradise
SVGA card based on the WD90C33 chipset. Apparantly, this isn't supported
by the XF_SVGA server.... I can get X to come up in 640x480 using the normal
VGA16 server, but I'd like to be able to use the higher resolutions supported
by my card...
 
 Does anyone have a server for the WD90C33 or can suggest some type of work
around to get it into a higher resolution?
 
 Thanks...
 
 I'd prefer replies via EMail to daveco@ids.net
 
  -> Dave


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From: tcmayo@2757t021.ge.com (Tom Mayo)
Subject: test
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 12:34:41 GMT

This is a test

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From: lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Luke M Kaven)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Please help: trouble configuring network
Date: 18 May 1994 07:04:00 GMT



Here is the relevant information.  Based upon suggestions from Paul Tomblin, 
I produced the following.  The connections do not time out, and the host
can ping itself successfully, but cannot ping host "panther" which
as you can see is listing statically in the hosts file.  In particular,
I don't understand why it is that the middle two routing table entries
should be listed with gateway=0.0.0.0!  This is the version of route
that comes with my Slackware release.  I brought over some of the net software
developed at Swansea and discovered some differences between that
and the source supplied in my release.  However the Swansea "route"
binary and mine are identical.  

::::::::::::::
netstat
::::::::::::::
Kernel routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref Use    Iface
192.76.178.20   192.76.178.1    255.255.255.255 UGH   0      0        7 eth0
192.76.178.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        6 lo
0.0.0.0         192.76.178.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        1 eth0

In the above, 192.76.178.20 is the address of a peer: panther.cabm.rutgers.edu
I don't have any reason to think that routing is correct, but am at a loss.
::::::::::::::
resolv
::::::::::::::
domain cabm.rutgers.edu
nameserver 128.6.4.4
nameserver 128.6.4.7

In the above, the nameservers are the same as those used by our SGI machines.
::::::::::::::
inet1.rc
::::::::::::::
#! /bin/sh
#
# rc.inet1      This shell script boots up the base INET system.
#
# Version:      @(#)/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1  1.01    05/27/93
#

HOSTNAME=`cat /etc/HOSTNAME`

# Attach the loopback device.
/sbin/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up
/sbin/route add -net 127.0.0.0

# IF YOU HAVE AN ETHERNET CONNECTION, use these lines below to configure the 
# eth0 interface. If you're only using loopback or SLIP, don't include the
# rest of the lines in this file.

# Edit for your setup.
IPADDR="192.76.178.28"  # REPLACE with YOUR IP address!
NETMASK="255.255.255.0" # REPLACE with YOUR netmask!
NETWORK="192.76.178.0"  # REPLACE with YOUR network address!
BROADCAST="192.76.178.255"      # REPLACE with YOUR broadcast address, if you
                        # have one. If not, leave blank and edit below.
GATEWAY="192.76.178.1"  # REPLACE with YOUR gateway address!

# Uncomment ONLY ONE of the three lines below. If one doesn't work, try again.
# /sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
/sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast ${BROADCAST} netmask ${NETMASK} 
# /sbin/ifconfig  eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} 

# Uncomment these to set up your IP routing table.
/sbin/route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} 
/sbin/route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1 
/sbin/route add -host 192.76.178.20 gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1 dev eth0

# End of rc.inet1
::::::::::::::
inet2.rc
::::::::::::::
#! /bin/sh
#
# rc.inet2      This shell script boots up the entire INET system.
#               Note, that when this script is used to also fire
#               up any important remote NFS disks (like the /usr
#               distribution), care must be taken to actually
#               have all the needed binaries online _now_ ...
#
# Version:      @(#)/etc/rc.d/rc.inet2  2.18    05/27/93
#
# Author:       Fred N. van Kempen, <waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org>
#

# Constants.
NET="/usr/sbin"
IN_SERV="lpd crond"
LPSPOOL="/var/spool/lpd"

# At this point, we are ready to talk to The World...
echo "Mounting remote file systems..."
/sbin/mount -a -t nfs           # This may be our /usr runtime!!!

echo -n "Starting daemons:"
# Start the SYSLOGD/Klogd daemons.  These must come first.
if [ -f ${NET}/syslogd ]
then
 echo -n " syslogd"
 ${NET}/syslogd
 echo -n " klogd"
 ${NET}/klogd
fi

# Start the SUN RPC Portmapper.
# if [ -f ${NET}/rpc.portmap ]
# then
#  echo -n " portmap"
#  ${NET}/rpc.portmap
# fi

# Start the INET SuperServer
if [ -f ${NET}/inetd ]
then
 echo -n " inetd"
 ${NET}/inetd
else
 echo "no INETD found.  INET cancelled!"
 exit 1
fi

# Start the NAMED/BIND name server.
# if [ -f ${NET}/named ]
# then
#  echo -n " named"
#  ${NET}/named
# fi

# Start the ROUTEd server.
# if [ -f ${NET}/routed ]
# then
#  echo -n " routed"
#  ${NET}/routed -g -s
# fi

# Start the RWHO server.
# if [ -f ${NET}/rwhod ]
# then
#  echo -n " rwhod"
#  ${NET}/rwhod -t -s
# fi

# Start the U-MAIL SMTP server.
# if [ -f XXX/usr/lib/umail/umail ]
# then
#  echo -n " umail"
#  /usr/lib/umail/umail -d7 -bd </dev/null >/dev/null 2>&1 &
# fi

# Start the various INET servers.
for server in ${IN_SERV}
do
 if [ -f ${NET}/${server} ]
 then
  echo -n " ${server}"
  ${NET}/${server}
 fi
done

# # Start the various SUN RPC servers.
# if [ -f ${NET}/rpc.portmap ]
# then
#  if [ -f ${NET}/rpc.ugidd ]
#  then
#   echo -n " ugidd"
#   ${NET}/rpc.ugidd -d
#  fi
#  if [ -f ${NET}/rpc.mountd ]
#  then
#   echo -n " mountd"
#   ${NET}/rpc.mountd
#  fi
#  if [ -f ${NET}/rpc.nfsd ]
#  then
#   echo -n " nfsd"
#   ${NET}/rpc.nfsd
#  fi
#  # Fire up the PC-NFS daemon(s).
#  if [ -f ${NET}/rpc.pcnfsd ]
#  then
#   echo -n " pcnfsd"
#   ${NET}/rpc.pcnfsd ${LPSPOOL}
#  fi
#  if [ -f ${NET}/rpc.bwnfsd ]
#  then
#   echo -n " bwnfsd"
#   ${NET}/rpc.bwnfsd ${LPSPOOL}
#  fi
# fi

echo

# Done!
::::::::::::::
hosts
::::::::::::::
#
# hosts         This file describes a number of hostname-to-address
#               mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem.  It is mostly
#               used at boot time, when no name servers are running.
#               On small systems, this file can be used instead of a
#               "named" name server.  Just add the names, addresses
#               and any aliases to this file...
#
# Version:      @(#)/etc/hosts          2.00    04/30/93
#
# Author:       Fred N. van Kempen, <waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org>
#

# For loopbacking.
127.0.0.1       localhost
192.76.178.28           dolphin.cabm.rutgers.edu dolphin

192.76.178.20           panther.cabm.rutgers.edu panther

# End of hosts.
::::::::::::::
host.cf
::::::::::::::
order hosts,bind
multi on


======
What follows is the netstat -nr listing produced on host panther.
(An INDIGO^2)

Routing tables
Destination      Gateway            Flags    MTU    RTT RTTvar    Use Interface
127.0.0.1        127.0.0.1          UH         0      0      0   7116  lo0
192.76.178.20    127.0.0.1          UH         0      0      0     82  lo0
default          192.76.178.20      U          0      0      0 633603  ec0
224.0.0.0        192.76.178.20      U          0      0      0      2  ec0
192.76.178       192.76.178.20      U          0      0      0 583600  ec0

Note that here the gateway for default and the local subnet is the 
host itself!  I don't really know what to make of this.  Is this 
specific to the way my local net is configured?

Another note:  I haven't yet run into someone who knows the
SMC Elite Ultra 16 very well...although I followed all the suggestions
I knew of for setting IRQ, RAM Addr, I/O Addr, etc.  The card is
successfully autodetected at bootup, so I hadn't any reason yet
to suspect it.

THANKS to anyone who has read this far along, and special thanks to
those who have offered specific help.

Sincerely, Luke Kaven (up all night again)
Center for Advanced Biotechnology and Medicine
Rutgers University

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: /proc/kcore
Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 22:25:37 GMT

In <2r5j5m$590@nuscc.nus.sg> med70047@solar.cc.nus.sg (Shim Phyau Min) writes:


>This file: /proc/kcore seems to be growing bigger and bigger. It currently
>stands at 8 MB and appears to be the file that is responsible for chewing
>up the free space left in my root partition.

>Is there a program available for me to look at it in a meaningful way?
>Can I remove it without anything untoward happening to my system?
>If I can't remove it, can I make a symbolic link for it to somewhere else
>on another partition where I have more space?

>Please reply by e-mail. Thanks.

Please read the FAQ.  Thanks.

Rob
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From: brenckle@solaris-2.Armstrong.EDU
Subject: Linux Tools? [Walnut Creek]
Date: 18 May 1994 08:40:37 -0400

    I am looking at ordering the new Yggdrasil CD and saw someone
    mention the "Linux Tools" cd from Walnut Creek. What is this CD?

    -Nick

-- 
Nicholas Brenckle                    |  Its all part of my master plan to
Armstrong State College              |             Rule the World.
Computer Information Services        |
brenckle@Armstrong.Edu               |

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
From: Bob@ibrox.demon.co.uk (Bob Goddard)
Subject: Re: Please help: trouble configuring network
Reply-To: Bob@ibrox.demon.co.uk
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 12:33:13 +0000

In article <2rcel0$9bg@tuba.cit.cornell.edu>
           lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu "Luke M Kaven" writes:

> ::::::::::::::
> netstat
> ::::::::::::::
> Kernel routing table
> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref Use    Iface
> 192.76.178.20   192.76.178.1    255.255.255.255 UGH   0      0        7 eth0
> 192.76.178.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
> 127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        6 lo
> 0.0.0.0         192.76.178.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        1 eth0

> Routing tables
> Destination      Gateway            Flags    MTU    RTT RTTvar    Use Interface
> 127.0.0.1        127.0.0.1          UH         0      0      0   7116  lo0
> 192.76.178.20    127.0.0.1          UH         0      0      0     82  lo0
> default          192.76.178.20      U          0      0      0 633603  ec0
> 224.0.0.0        192.76.178.20      U          0      0      0      2  ec0
> 192.76.178       192.76.178.20      U          0      0      0 583600  ec0

Thought this would be sorted out by now :-(

You will notice the flags, they are
        U       useable
        G       gateway
        H       host

but nowhere is there N for network

try adding the network address plus name to /etc/networks as given to the
route add -net command. This should hopefully work.

Failing that get Craig Hunt's TCP/IP Network Administration (O'Reilly & Assoc)
best book I've come across for configuring networks. Hope it helps.
-- 
Bob Goddard
Student @ Napier Uni. & professional layabout

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From: wanggaar@nicmad.uucp (Michael Wanggaard)
Subject: Re: What is latest CD out?
Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 20:01:28 GMT

In article <2quhdf$hn0@pandora.sdsu.edu> masc1266@saturn.sdsu.edu (Mario Gutierrez) writes:
>Path:
>nicmad!astroatc!uwvax!uwm.edu!src.honeywell.com!The-Star.honeywell.com!sol.ctr.c
>olumbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!saturn!m
>asc1266
>From: masc1266@saturn.sdsu.edu (Mario Gutierrez)
>Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
>Subject: What is latest CD out?
>Date: 13 May 1994 00:25:19 GMT
>Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
>Lines: 9
>Message-ID: <2quhdf$hn0@pandora.sdsu.edu>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.sdsu.edu
>X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]


>I'm looking to purchase a CD with Linux and the the arcvhies from Sunsite,
>etc. Since there are so many to choose from, I would like to purchase the
>latest.  If you have the number to the company I would be even more
>appreciative.

I've been wondering about this too.  Is there a FAQ or information sheet, or 
has anyone just kept a listing of the current CD releases coming out?  I think 
if I'm going to spend $30 on something I can download for free, I'd like to at 
least make an informed decision about what release is best for me.

If you have anything that puts all this information in front of my face, I'd 
appreciate it.

If you are a Linux CD seller (that I haven't mailed already :), please feel 
free to mail me any info regarding your product.

As large (full-featured?) as Linux is, CD seems to be the preferred method of 
distribution.  I think it would be a good idea to centralize the information 
of the various sales offerings and the relative merits of the CDs.

Thank you,
Mike Wanggaard
wanggaar@en.ecn.purdue.edu
wanggaar@nicmad.uucp
 

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From: lellis@igate.com (John Lellis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Please help: trouble configuring network
Date: 18 May 1994 14:38:39 GMT

Luke M Kaven (lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu) wrote:
: lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Luke M Kaven) writes:

: (2) It was suggested that I run gated for RIP.  I hear this was
: written at Cornell, but I don't know where to obtain it.

A Linux port of gated 3.0.3 was recently uploaded to sunsite.unc.edu...

--

John Lellis (lellis@dmccorp.com)

--
... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore
strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4.




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From: g02o@zfn.uni-bremen.de (Mark-Oliver Wolter)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,alt.humor.puns
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages
Date: 18 May 1994 14:23:34 GMT

Robert Swirsky-Warner (swirsky@adobe.com) wrote:
:> (BTW: Does anyone remember Microsoft's compiler for
:> "Applsoft BASIC" that, according to the manual, was
:> written in Applesoft and compiled with itself? It
:> worked well, but took a long time to compile anything.
Almost ALL interpreter language compilers are written in the interpreter version
and compiled with themselves...
(c64 Austrospeed, Atari GFA Basic Compiler, Omikron Compiler,...)

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From: g02o@zfn.uni-bremen.de (Mark-Oliver Wolter)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers,alt.humor.puns
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages
Date: 18 May 1994 14:25:12 GMT

Shaun Lowry (sml@mfltd.co.uk) wrote:
:> >Disk Drive is in Scotts Valley CA.  about 20 or so miles sw of
:> >San Jose.  I think Scotts Valley is the main home of some
:> >corps like seagate and borland------
> How much does a trip there on the local bus cost from Memory Lane?  Do foreign
> nationals need a VESA?  Inquiring minds need to know.

Sorry - no VESA cards accepted. Ca$h only. ;-)


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From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
Subject: NIS Status
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 03:20:44 GMT

Hello Netters,

  Can someone tell me the status of NIS or "Yellow Pages" under linux?

Thanx
Eric

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From: lmccarth@cs.umass.edu (Lewis (YDNCTFL YWSRCFAOTW) McCarthy)
Crossposted-To: alt.food.sugar-cereals,alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Clothes named after programming languages
Date: 16 May 1994 07:06:08 GMT

alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
>For C/C++ programmers, the obvious thing to wear would be a set of
>matching braces.

{ Notice: this joke may be puzzling for some readers in the States }

-Lewis
       === "I don't give a crap if you're annoyed." -Roger Bryner ===

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From: danubius@chinook.halcyon.com (Joe Pannon)
Subject: Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue)
Date: 17 May 1994 02:56:39 GMT

In article <1994May17.014820.9936@rosevax.rosemount.com>,
Grant Edwards <grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com> wrote:

> a friend and I finally
>came to the realization that no matter what technology advances and
>price drops happen, the computer you _really_ want always costs
>$5,000. 

Oh come now, Grant!  That's a truism I've read from John Dvorak years ago.
Or was it some other columnist from PC Magazine? 

Joe

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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++,gnu.g++.help
From: sujat@shasta.ee.umn.edu (Sujat Jamil)
Subject: Re: Learning C++ on Linux?
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 16:48:56 GMT

In article <2rbqlf$i8i@crcnis1.unl.edu>,
Jeff Epler <jepler@herbie.unl.edu> wrote:
>
>Also, is GCC's c++ compilation really good enough for me to learn c++?
>I have read, though not understood, about how g++ is still limited
>compared to 'cfront' (whatever that is -- I gather it is some
>commercial c++ compiler) but I don't know if this deficiency is
>anything that I'm going to be frustrated by as I take my first steps
>at learning the language...


Is this really true?  Doesn't g++ aim at ANSI C++ compliance?  Could
someone please comment?


>
>Jeff
>
>
>--
>Jeff Epler       echo "kill -9 -1" | su         jepler@herbie.unl.edu 
>____ "Nuke the unborn gay whales for Jesus" 
>\bi/                                  -- Never seen on a protest sign
> \/  1.5<kinsey<2.5      Running Linux 1.1.11 -- DOS is to boot DOOM!

Sujat

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From: grif@polymnia.ucr.edu (Michael Griffith)
Subject: Re: Purify - non-commercial version?
Date: 17 May 1994 17:22:32 GMT

In article <1994May17.121847@cs.man.ac.uk>,
Ian Chard <chardi@cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I remember reading somewhere that there is a non-commercial version of purify
>for Linux - but I can't remember what it's called.  If you know, I would really
>appreciate it if you could mail me and tell me where to get it!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ian.

It is called Checker.  While still under development, it is pretty
cool stuff:

        sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/devel/c/Checker-*

-- 
                                                Michael A. Griffith
                                                grif@cs.ucr.edu

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